God I love this stuff. As an American of Welsh descent I love this. And just as someone who find this niche of ancient history perhaps the most interesting, as well as the clash of civilizations - high and low and first contact stories etc as the most juicy of historic or fiction storylines - everything about this is hitting the sweet spot. And I added that Boudicca book to my TBR. So thank you, Mr. Holland.
This in a matter of days became my favorite podcast of the decade… I don’t know what it is… they way the stories are told and imagined by you guys… is unique, truly. ❤❤
History! Suspense! Humour! Who could ask for more? You are both excellent story-tellers who manage,between you,to weave a story greater than the sum of the parts you each bring.
I started listening to y'all a few weeks ago...and now I'm addicted! 💯% American Anglophile here. Just love everything British. Can't wait for your take on Boudica whose story I only discovered last year. Talk about a fierce woman warrior! Until her story, I did not know that the ancient tribes of Great Britain had egalitarian attitudes towards women and as a woman, that is so cool to know!
Yeah, I'm not sure they did have egalitarian attitudes towards women. Only royal women. It would be like arguing that the Victorians were paragons of gender equality just because Victoria was a female queen. QE2 came to the throne in 1953 and died in 2023 - why the need for a feminist movement at all in the 1970s? 🤔 Apologies for labouring the point.
Great stuff. As an American I sure could have used a few maps thrown in by the video editor when places in England were mentioned, though. I'm sure it's all very familiar to Brits but for me I look into my mental map of the UK and it's VERY sparse in details. 😆
You can get most of it just by searching online for a map of English counties. Colchester is at the northern end of Essex by the coast. St Albans is pretty much in the middle of Hertfordshire. The Home Counties are the inland counties next to London, but precisely what's included depends on who you are asking. Anglesey is the big island off the North-West corner of Wales. That's all the places I noticed them talking about that wouldn't be on such a map (regardless of whether it's a map of the current ceremonial counties or the historical counties that now only exist for the purposes of cricket).
@@stephengray1344 That's pretty difficult to do as you're trying to watch and enjoy a podcast. How many podcasts do you watch with a map open on another tab so you can jump back and forth when they reference things? If only there was a way someone could do that for the thousands that aren't as familiar with English locations as Brits. You're being quite silly... or you're the editor and you're lazy.
Thanks! I'm researching for a game taking place on a fictional island situated 40 km north of Dunkirk, and the game is very much about the history of this island, which I try to make as credible as possible. Your videos are great sources of information and inspiration!
When Brazilian footballer Emerson was transferred to Middlesborough from Porto in 1996, his missus took one look at Teeside and described as a "dark and dangerous place". So, not much change since the Romans. He stayed less than a year. The Romans had far more staying power than a prima donna Carlos Kichabol. Unlike the Romans however, he did venture into Scotland in 2004. Predictabilly he lasted less than a season.
What a sensible woman! I went to Middlesbrough a few years ago on a training course. What a complete dump. Nothing there to speak of. Strangely the locals are incredibly proud of a weird crane 'thing' that sits at the docks and is of no interest to anyone of sane mind. The train home to Edinburgh couldn't come quickly enough!
Here was me thinking Good King Hal's story would continue but instead the Claudian invasion! Cliffhanging indeed! Have you recruited Kenneth Branagh for the Henry V continuation episode???
When my missus asks me why I daydream and ramble on about the Roman Empire all the time I feel amazing when these two tremendous galaxy brained nerds vindicate me.
Oh what a coincidence, I just finished Conn Iggulden's book "Nero" which featured Claudius' invasion of Britain at the end. The book should actually be named "Nero's mom" since Agrippina was the main character 🤣
I agree with Tom. I think the legions revolted when Caligula attempted to cross into Britain and he forced them to collect sea shells to humiliate them. Later when he was dead, it became the story, probably put forward by these very legions, that he was mad.
I’ve been binging these guys with audio only as a podcast for months and this is my first time seeing them and I’ve been imagining Tom holland as a bilbo Baggins figure so this looks dubbed to me. My brain can’t process it
Probably a couple of very similar Celtic languages with common roots (assuming the first Celts that arrived in Britain spoke the same language, which then diverged over the next thousand years). The elites would have probably been bilingual.
Could be, or if he was from the South East he could have spoken a Germanic language like most of the Gauls did. Fast forward to the Viking Age and you've got a lot of evidence of bilingualism - Scandinavians and Anglians speaking Gaelic and probably northern Brythonic too.
In Anne Ross’s book Tge Pagan Celts there’s an archaeologist’s drawing of a stone carving of a man which has oak leaves as some kind of garland. She presents it with the caption ‘statue of Druid’s head found in Egypt’ or something similar. Thoughts?
Julius Cesar attempted an. invasion of Britain twice but did not stay. He neither conquered nor occupied Britain. Britain was "properly" invaded under Emperor Claudius, and ended with the Emperor Hadrian. (He of the great Wall fame)
One of the ancient historians reported that the Romans committed human sacrifice during the dark days of the 2nd Punic War. They also freed slaves and put them in the Legions. No great empire is without great hypocrisy.
There is this wrong but very persistent belief that the people of the British tribes wore "woad". To my understanding and what I was taught "woad" (which was a blue In colour) was infact worn or tattooed only by the "picks". A people of the north of Scotland. (Picks being the name given to them by the Romans. Thier true name unknown.) Whilst it is quite possible that the British tribes did something similar, they did not use "woad". The other issue I have to seriously consider is whether it is even possible to see what anyone is wearing from the coast of France looking towards Britain Yes, you can see Britain but surely not What an individual is wearing.
@@humblescribe8522 I certainly wouldn't say you are wrong. But I do have a soft spot for the overlooked. And it's not like I said Galba was my favorite or anything.
For the record, it should be noted that the Romans absolutely practiced human sacrifice as well, they just didn't call it that. Put an outsider in the crowd at the end of Triumph and have them watch the ritualistic strangulation of captives on the stairs of a major temple, and they'd absolutely identify that as human sacrifice.
I get more excited about these new episodes than any other show on the Internet, all streaming services included. Magnificent stories.
Ditto.
The level of detail is utterly absurd, and the dynamic between them is amazing
Ditto @@kelleyfrench9663
Best historians on-line
God I love this stuff. As an American of Welsh descent I love this. And just as someone who find this niche of ancient history perhaps the most interesting, as well as the clash of civilizations - high and low and first contact stories etc as the most juicy of historic or fiction storylines - everything about this is hitting the sweet spot. And I added that Boudicca book to my TBR. So thank you, Mr. Holland.
This has become my favorite TH-cam channel. You two have provided countless hours of entertainment and knowledge
This in a matter of days became my favorite podcast of the decade… I don’t know what it is… they way the stories are told and imagined by you guys… is unique, truly. ❤❤
One of the best podcasts I've ever listened to & I've listened to the entire back catalogue of 'In our time' let me tell you!
History!
Suspense!
Humour!
Who could ask for more?
You are both excellent story-tellers who manage,between you,to weave a story greater than the sum of the parts you each bring.
I started listening to y'all a few weeks ago...and now I'm addicted! 💯% American Anglophile here. Just love everything British. Can't wait for your take on Boudica whose story I only discovered last year. Talk about a fierce woman warrior! Until her story, I did not know that the ancient tribes of Great Britain had egalitarian attitudes towards women and as a woman, that is so cool to know!
Why? Because you also lack a penis?
I’ve never felt a kinship with other women simply because we have genitalia in common
Yeah, I'm not sure they did have egalitarian attitudes towards women. Only royal women. It would be like arguing that the Victorians were paragons of gender equality just because Victoria was a female queen. QE2 came to the throne in 1953 and died in 2023 - why the need for a feminist movement at all in the 1970s? 🤔 Apologies for labouring the point.
You guys earned a subscription gentlemen
Great Episode!
This was intense. Wonderful storytelling and I'm looking for more.
Thank you so much. 👍
marvalous....thoroughly enjoy all your programmes.
Its very sweet ...the local bookshop allows Dom to do his podcasts there
😂
Great stuff. As an American I sure could have used a few maps thrown in by the video editor when places in England were mentioned, though. I'm sure it's all very familiar to Brits but for me I look into my mental map of the UK and it's VERY sparse in details. 😆
Yeah, I was using googlemap .
You can get most of it just by searching online for a map of English counties. Colchester is at the northern end of Essex by the coast. St Albans is pretty much in the middle of Hertfordshire. The Home Counties are the inland counties next to London, but precisely what's included depends on who you are asking. Anglesey is the big island off the North-West corner of Wales. That's all the places I noticed them talking about that wouldn't be on such a map (regardless of whether it's a map of the current ceremonial counties or the historical counties that now only exist for the purposes of cricket).
@@stephengray1344 That's pretty difficult to do as you're trying to watch and enjoy a podcast. How many podcasts do you watch with a map open on another tab so you can jump back and forth when they reference things? If only there was a way someone could do that for the thousands that aren't as familiar with English locations as Brits. You're being quite silly... or you're the editor and you're lazy.
@@thanksfernuthin I was trying to be helpful after the fact to help fill in the gaps in your knowledge.
@@stephengray1344 Fair enough.
Thanks! I'm researching for a game taking place on a fictional island situated 40 km north of Dunkirk, and the game is very much about the history of this island, which I try to make as credible as possible. Your videos are great sources of information and inspiration!
I love it when game Devs get stuck into history, the setting for a game is probably more important than the mechanic!
Love Rome and love these two guys.
Wow - this is incredible 👍👍👍
You are so good at making these histories come alive
I thather enjoy your discutions about history, they help make the monotony of work more palatable.
When Brazilian footballer Emerson was transferred to Middlesborough from Porto in 1996, his missus took one look at Teeside and described as a "dark and dangerous place". So, not much change since the Romans. He stayed less than a year. The Romans had far more staying power than a prima donna Carlos Kichabol. Unlike the Romans however, he did venture into Scotland in 2004. Predictabilly he lasted less than a season.
Of all the analogies you could have used, Emerson to Boro would have been last I'd have expected😂, good work.
The history of Roman Britain in the microcosm of footballer's career 😂 legend
@@dperson9212 Thank you!
What a sensible woman! I went to Middlesbrough a few years ago on a training course. What a complete dump. Nothing there to speak of. Strangely the locals are incredibly proud of a weird crane 'thing' that sits at the docks and is of no interest to anyone of sane mind.
The train home to Edinburgh couldn't come quickly enough!
Here was me thinking Good King Hal's story would continue but instead the Claudian invasion! Cliffhanging indeed! Have you recruited Kenneth Branagh for the Henry V continuation episode???
For some unknown reason Agincourt is only on the audio podcast.
When my missus asks me why I daydream and ramble on about the Roman Empire all the time I feel amazing when these two tremendous galaxy brained nerds vindicate me.
Can we have a special episode on the legends of cassivellaunus???
There are some excellent stories.
Cover the Varian disaster
or else?
@@billythedog-309 or else
So sad it's premiering. I wanted to listen now!!
Of course Britain is the home of Magic, it’s the location of Hogwarts
In Harry Potter lore, Merlin was a powerful wizard back in the day. Nice little nod
excellent video.
after watching this and part 1, you have a new subscriber.
Oh what a coincidence, I just finished Conn Iggulden's book "Nero" which featured Claudius' invasion of Britain at the end. The book should actually be named "Nero's mom" since Agrippina was the main character 🤣
I agree with Tom. I think the legions revolted when Caligula attempted to cross into Britain and he forced them to collect sea shells to humiliate them. Later when he was dead, it became the story, probably put forward by these very legions, that he was mad.
I’ve been binging these guys with audio only as a podcast for months and this is my first time seeing them and I’ve been imagining Tom holland as a bilbo Baggins figure so this looks dubbed to me. My brain can’t process it
😂
Sounds like things haven't changed much since pre-Claudian times in Britain 😊
What's the best version/translation of Tacitus to start with?
Love the way Tom uses the show to 'UP' the price of his coin collection😂
These men must be in league with the devil!
But there are the remains of Roman temple on Maiden Castle. Why would the Romans bother to build it if the site had no significance to them?
Anyone else notice the old sword that is on Dom’s bookshelf? What sword is that?
Surely I saw a ballista bolt in the vertebrae of a skeleton from Maiden Castle in Dorchester Museum?( On three separate occasions).
Apparently current archaeological thinking is it's an iron age spear and the burial pre-dates the Roman invasion.
I wonder how many words per minute Tom can read.
I wonder whether the British tribes had a common language. How did Caratacus communicate with the other tribal leaders?
Probably a couple of very similar Celtic languages with common roots (assuming the first Celts that arrived in Britain spoke the same language, which then diverged over the next thousand years). The elites would have probably been bilingual.
They did, common Brittonic, the ancestor language to Welsh, Cornish, and Breton.
Could be, or if he was from the South East he could have spoken a Germanic language like most of the Gauls did.
Fast forward to the Viking Age and you've got a lot of evidence of bilingualism - Scandinavians and Anglians speaking Gaelic and probably northern Brythonic too.
P-Celtic (Brythonic) & Q-Celtic (Goidelic) languages.
In Anne Ross’s book Tge Pagan Celts there’s an archaeologist’s drawing of a stone carving of a man which has oak leaves as some kind of garland. She presents it with the caption ‘statue of Druid’s head found in Egypt’ or something similar. Thoughts?
Dominic - anyone ever told you that you sound like Julian Barratt?
Three waves of invasion is probably three high tides.
Do Boudicca please boys
They literally closed off this episode by teasing that her story is in the next episode. The Iceni tribe they mentioned was her tribe.
@@stephengray1344 Cool mate i`ll be there
Are we not finishing Henry V?
We have something special happening for part 3 so we are just having a short break, it will return!
@@restishistorypod EXCELLENT!
@restishistorypod 🙌 so glad to read your post 🎉 look forward to ‘the special’ - cannot wait 😊
👍 👍 👍 👍 👌
I've been checking every day for part 3 😊
Part 3 where is part 2?
It's actually part 2, part 3 is about Boudica. Look up the episode listings anywhere else outside of TH-cam for accurate results
@@steventrotter4958 Thank you
The Romans themselves had carried out propitiatory human sacrifice during Brennus' Gallic invasion of Rome.
Joan of arc 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
It makes sense they would associate Britain with magic because that’s where Hogwarts is
Julius Cesar attempted an. invasion of Britain twice but did not stay. He neither conquered nor occupied Britain. Britain was "properly" invaded under Emperor Claudius, and ended with the Emperor Hadrian. (He of the great Wall fame)
Didn't Caesar's soldiers mutiny and refuse to jump off the ships 😾
Sort of, but that happened in the previous episode.
They covered that in the previous episode.
@@stephengray1344
I want to kiss you 👄
One of the ancient historians reported that the Romans committed human sacrifice during the dark days of the 2nd Punic War. They also freed slaves and put them in the Legions. No great empire is without great hypocrisy.
There is this wrong but very persistent belief that the people of the British tribes wore "woad". To my understanding and what I was taught "woad" (which was a blue In colour) was infact worn or tattooed only by the "picks". A people of the north of Scotland. (Picks being the name given to them by the Romans. Thier true name unknown.) Whilst it is quite possible that the British tribes did something similar, they did not use "woad". The other issue I have to seriously consider is whether it is even possible to see what anyone is wearing from the coast of France looking towards Britain Yes, you can see Britain but surely not What an individual is wearing.
More ripping tales from the past, hooray !
From now on, I will always take solace in the words "The Britons are even more barbaric than the Germans" 😁😁😁
If at first you don't succeed 😊
Riveting!
"Claudius" literally means "the lame one" in Latin
Imagine drinking milk
?? this just talks about southern england..
That's the bit the Romans invaded first.
@@humblescribe8522 its very limited in scope .
Bit of a snoozefest this one.
I would say that Claudius is my favorite emperor.
I think he's a bit of a footnote compared to the likes of Augustus, Trajan, Marcus Aurelius, Constantine and Diocletian.
@@humblescribe8522 I certainly wouldn't say you are wrong. But I do have a soft spot for the overlooked. And it's not like I said Galba was my favorite or anything.
A WOMAN?!?
For the record, it should be noted that the Romans absolutely practiced human sacrifice as well, they just didn't call it that.
Put an outsider in the crowd at the end of Triumph and have them watch the ritualistic strangulation of captives on the stairs of a major temple, and they'd absolutely identify that as human sacrifice.
You have a 'people and their wives' problem. Do try to remember that women are people too.
Oh buzz off. They’re talking about history.
Boring after a few minutes
Tom's episodes are pathetic compared to Dominic"s. Turgid and boring