Hi Walter, how thick is the Hock blade? The standard Lie Nielsen blade is 4.4mm thick but I'm not finding Hock blades that thick. Hock blades seem to usually be 0,09375" thick, which is 2.38mm. Does a thinner 2.38mm blade work equally well on the Lie-Nielsen No. 62?
Thanks for writing, For the most part The O-2 Hock Replacement blade is an exact match in thickness on the 62. For Bailye Pattern planes and others, they are also a near match in thickness to the originals at about .093". All work as intended but the steel is far superior. Thanks for watching, Enjoy the 62.
I would have to agree with you on both accounts. It is a great tool, but does have a different feel than a #5. Weather it's a Stanley or Lie Nielsen. Enjoy the videos Walter, keep them coming.
DrCRAZY es geht um die gesamte Verarbeitungsqualität. Warum einen Rollce Royce kaufen wenn dich ein Golf auch ans Ziel bringt. Es ist einfach das ganze Paket was man bekommt.
Hi Walter- I was just watching this video again (probably for the 3rd or 4th time). I absolutely LOVE the LN 62. With just about any blade, although I find the Hock blades I bought from you easier to sharpen and they cut just a bit cleaner. I find that my hand position on the tote gives me a lower grip (probably because my pointer finger is in the grip area). This allows me to plane a bit more level with less pressure on the knob allowing me to take my off hand off the plane earlier when completing the "stroke." I have lots of extra LN blades which I have secondary bevelled to higher angles. This has been helpful in planing Sapele, which is a bear to plane. However, it is my favorite goto wood. I have to figure out what to do with my whole collection of other planes since the 62 is what I use all the time. BTW, I noticed your rolling the pencil technique. As a graduate of Brooklyn Tech, that was one of the things they taught us in technical drawing (drafting) class. Model making class was my first experience with chisel and sharpening techniques. Now, if you tell me that you print at a 75 degree angle, I'll be really impressed. Thanks again for all your efforts -- they are appreciated. -- Steve.
Thanks for writing Steve, I guess us Brooklyn boys are somewhat in sinc. What did you mean by: "Now, if you tell me that you print at a 75 degree angle, I'll be really impressed." ? Glad to be of assistance.
Dusty Splinters one of the things they taught us was blueprint printing at 75 degrees. We used to put the 30 degree corner against the 45 degree triangle, draw guidelines and do all printing at 75 degrees. That’s the way they taught in 1964. I’m from Queens
Please clear something up for me. You said the Hock blade has a bevel of 38 degrees. Is that with or without a micro bevel. If there is a micro bevel, what is it.
what a well timed video. i am planning to order a LN 62 next week. i have a few pieces of really burry american black walnut, i was thinking about ordering the 90 degree blade. do you have any thoughts on it? or would i be better getting a 2nd 25 degree blade and putting the 48 degree secondary on it. thanks walter
I like the 62 to real granky grains. Ron Hock made me a batch of O-1 Tool Steel Blades. I honed one at a pure 25 deg and keep my L-N honed with a micro bevel at between 43 deg and 48 deg. for use as a 60 deg high angel plane.
hi Walter, my LN arrived today, i bought and honed a spare blade with a 45 degree micro bevel, what can i say, wow. thanks again for all your amazing videos now i have the theory in place its time to make some more shavings and learn how to really use this thing
Thanks for writing, The comparison was done because people were asking me: * which is a better choice as a Jack Plane? * Do I need both? * Can I just get the 62 and virtually do everything with it? They both can achieve the same tasks to some degree IF the Effective Blade angle is sharpened correctly. My comparison was mostly from the perspective of a person who has used his No 5 for decades. The feel of the 62 is totally different. My purchase of the L-N 62 was mostly for planing end grain Chopping blocks (which it was originally designed for) and as use in a chuting board to plane end grain. Thanks For Watching!
@@DustySplinters thanks for the reply...So of these two planes, 62 and #5, which is the more versatile plane? LN does make a #5 with a 50 degree frog btw..so give the same bed angle for both which would be the better choice for a jack plane?
@@jc51373 For absolute versatility, the L-N 62 offer more option for less cost. A No. 5 is a goo all around Jack but only with a 45 deg Frog. Getting a higher angle frog like 50, 55 or 60 deg will not let you plane softwoods or planing straight grain woods as easy as a 45 deg frog will. It get harder to push and is reserved for more difficult or cranky woods. For years my daily go-to plane was my trusty Fulton No. 5. I honed several blades differently for different uses. The interesting thing about our craft is the you can do allot with so little or you can do the same work with lots of tools. Personally, I do not use my 62 as a standard Jack since I have a nice Stanley No 5 I restored. I use the 62 for chuting board (Hock O-1 Iron honed to pure 25 deg) , and other special situations like curly grain or birds eye by installing the original L-N A-2 a blade honed to 38 - 48 deg.
@@DustySplinters I bought the 62, used it today on hard maple. It's a dream to use, got some whispy shavings with about 5 minutes of set up. i did get some tear out due to inexperience setting blade depth, but when it's dialed in it's an amazing plane. I need to get a few more blades for it to get the versatility. I got it with the 102 and it seems like a potent combo.
Hi Walter, how thick is the Hock blade? The standard Lie Nielsen blade is 4.4mm thick but I'm not finding Hock blades that thick. Hock blades seem to usually be 0,09375" thick, which is 2.38mm. Does a thinner 2.38mm blade work equally well on the Lie-Nielsen No. 62?
Thanks for writing,
For the most part The O-2 Hock Replacement blade is an exact match in thickness on the 62.
For Bailye Pattern planes and others, they are also a near match in thickness to the originals at about .093".
All work as intended but the steel is far superior.
Thanks for watching, Enjoy the 62.
I would have to agree with you on both accounts. It is a great tool, but does have a different feel than a #5. Weather it's a Stanley or Lie Nielsen.
Enjoy the videos Walter, keep them coming.
Both are beautiful.
Thanks for watching.
Why Lee Neilson? My beauty 62 is the brand Stanley SW ;) I love this plane on wood with a lot of nuts. or when the grain change.
DrCRAZY es geht um die gesamte Verarbeitungsqualität.
Warum einen Rollce Royce kaufen wenn dich ein Golf auch ans Ziel bringt. Es ist einfach das ganze Paket was man bekommt.
thats a pretty cheap plane with poor quality control. If its working for you thats awesome. you got lucky. a lot of people werent so lucky
Again I commend you on making an observation most miss and thus they don't understand
Thank You, and thanks for both watching and commenting.
Nice review
Hi Walter- I was just watching this video again (probably for the 3rd or 4th time). I absolutely LOVE the LN 62. With just about any blade, although I find the Hock blades I bought from you easier to sharpen and they cut just a bit cleaner.
I find that my hand position on the tote gives me a lower grip (probably because my pointer finger is in the grip area). This allows me to plane a bit more level with less pressure on the knob allowing me to take my off hand off the plane earlier when completing the "stroke."
I have lots of extra LN blades which I have secondary bevelled to higher angles. This has been helpful in planing Sapele, which is a bear to plane. However, it is my favorite goto wood. I have to figure out what to do with my whole collection of other planes since the 62 is what I use all the time.
BTW, I noticed your rolling the pencil technique. As a graduate of Brooklyn Tech, that was one of the things they taught us in technical drawing (drafting) class. Model making class was my first experience with chisel and sharpening techniques. Now, if you tell me that you print at a 75 degree angle, I'll be really impressed.
Thanks again for all your efforts -- they are appreciated.
-- Steve.
Thanks for writing Steve,
I guess us Brooklyn boys are somewhat in sinc.
What did you mean by: "Now, if you tell me that you print at a 75 degree angle, I'll be really impressed." ?
Glad to be of assistance.
Dusty Splinters one of the things they taught us was blueprint printing at 75 degrees. We used to put the 30 degree corner against the 45 degree triangle, draw guidelines and do all printing at 75 degrees. That’s the way they taught in 1964.
I’m from Queens
Do you mean "lettering" Yes, some did slant theirs.
Please clear something up for me. You said the Hock blade has a bevel of 38 degrees. Is that with or without a micro bevel. If there is a micro bevel, what is it.
In these instances no secondary or as you call it a micro bevel..
what a well timed video. i am planning to order a LN 62 next week. i have a few pieces of really burry american black walnut, i was thinking about ordering the 90 degree blade. do you have any thoughts on it? or would i be better getting a 2nd 25 degree blade and putting the 48 degree secondary on it. thanks walter
I like the 62 to real granky grains. Ron Hock made me a batch of O-1 Tool Steel Blades. I honed one at a pure 25 deg and keep my L-N honed with a micro bevel at between 43 deg and 48 deg. for use as a 60 deg high angel plane.
hi Walter, my LN arrived today, i bought and honed a spare blade with a 45 degree micro bevel, what can i say, wow. thanks again for all your amazing videos now i have the theory in place its time to make some more shavings and learn how to really use this thing
Glad to be of help.
Walter - is the Ron Hock blade an easy drop-in replacement for the Lie-Nielsen blade? And which Hock blade are you using? Thanks!
Yes, Just hone and go... it was made to nearly the exact same specs dimensionally.
Thanks Walter!
the angle of the LN and the other plane are completely different. How is the comparison even accurate or useful?
Thanks for writing,
The comparison was done because people were asking me:
* which is a better choice as a Jack Plane?
* Do I need both?
* Can I just get the 62 and virtually do everything with it?
They both can achieve the same tasks to some degree IF the Effective Blade angle is sharpened correctly.
My comparison was mostly from the perspective of a person who has used his No 5 for decades. The feel of the 62 is totally different.
My purchase of the L-N 62 was mostly for planing end grain Chopping blocks (which it was originally designed for) and as use in a chuting board to plane end grain.
Thanks For Watching!
@@DustySplinters thanks for the reply...So of these two planes, 62 and #5, which is the more versatile plane? LN does make a #5 with a 50 degree frog btw..so give the same bed angle for both which would be the better choice for a jack plane?
@@jc51373 For absolute versatility, the L-N 62 offer more option for less cost. A No. 5 is a goo all around Jack but only with a 45 deg Frog. Getting a higher angle frog like 50, 55 or 60 deg will not let you plane softwoods or planing straight grain woods as easy as a 45 deg frog will. It get harder to push and is reserved for more difficult or cranky woods. For years my daily go-to plane was my trusty Fulton No. 5. I honed several blades differently for different uses. The interesting thing about our craft is the you can do allot with so little or you can do the same work with lots of tools. Personally, I do not use my 62 as a standard Jack since I have a nice Stanley No 5 I restored. I use the 62 for chuting board (Hock O-1 Iron honed to pure 25 deg) , and other special situations like curly grain or birds eye by installing the original L-N A-2 a blade honed to 38 - 48 deg.
@@DustySplinters I bought the 62, used it today on hard maple. It's a dream to use, got some whispy shavings with about 5 minutes of set up. i did get some tear out due to inexperience setting blade depth, but when it's dialed in it's an amazing plane. I need to get a few more blades for it to get the versatility. I got it with the 102 and it seems like a potent combo.
@@jc51373 Give Ron Hock a call a Hock tools. His are the best.