Remember When: Maps of the Past

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  • @taepro64
    @taepro64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1946

    Having 5 couriers, and an extra slot for TP plus 3 backpacks are a few of the best modifications to the game.

    • @user-gk6kc9fu4y
      @user-gk6kc9fu4y 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      but made dota much easier and casual

    • @HoHhoch
      @HoHhoch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +182

      @@user-gk6kc9fu4y So?

    • @Test-mq8ih
      @Test-mq8ih 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      @@user-gk6kc9fu4y ok dota elitist

    • @enso8762
      @enso8762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      @@user-gk6kc9fu4y it really doesn't since everyone gets the benefits

    • @maulanaiman4448
      @maulanaiman4448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@user-gk6kc9fu4y you can't win the game just because courier and tp..

  • @roronoazoro2496
    @roronoazoro2496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1807

    Puppey wants to know the shrine developer location so he can throw some headphones at him.

    • @bigpooporder3965
      @bigpooporder3965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      Or machete

    • @bimantoro17
      @bimantoro17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      monkaS

    • @luqmana586
      @luqmana586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Definitely a machete

    • @anharun
      @anharun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      He wanted to see the inside of the developers' thinking

    • @tonkotsuramen8453
      @tonkotsuramen8453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@anharun using the Machete

  • @haepisaus
    @haepisaus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +974

    Having only one courier back then was one of the things we can tell our children that they have a better life than us for those that didn't experience it.

    • @lordfritzropero3666
      @lordfritzropero3666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      it was horrible esp for the supports that bought it bc mid players hog it all the time

    • @einszwei1226
      @einszwei1226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Having one courier wasn't that bad. Having no courier was...

    • @rg9448
      @rg9448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      In SEA, everyone plays core so no one buy couriers back then
      Even more amazing time for us

    • @cloudfffcois3303
      @cloudfffcois3303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What is courier?old day sea never buy haha

    • @weebemo1
      @weebemo1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rg9448 SEA RareParrot and after you get fed up and tp back and buy it someones else hogs it for the whole game KEKL

  • @bigwig8657
    @bigwig8657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +605

    Rip blink dagger side shop

    • @bimantoro17
      @bimantoro17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Rip side shop

    • @amplesstratleholm7609
      @amplesstratleholm7609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I remember that Gabbi Puck highlight (buying a Blink after a double kill, then selling it and buying it again) because of that side shop.

    • @MrBloocchi
      @MrBloocchi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Also arcane boots, that was a life saver.

    • @idmarilamri6398
      @idmarilamri6398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And we can shop blade mail too

    • @a2zistoolong448
      @a2zistoolong448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Side shop was damn good if we look back at it.

  • @user-us3wq4np6k
    @user-us3wq4np6k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +389

    Good old days where 30 mins have already past no one still bought courier and all went 5 carry

    • @idmarilamri6398
      @idmarilamri6398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Damn I miss those beautiful times when I clicked so fast so my item delivered first

    • @chl2161
      @chl2161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      "I bought the courier already, you upgrade it"

    • @TSPIRlT
      @TSPIRlT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      nope that's classic SEA dota

    • @savinghumanity6661
      @savinghumanity6661 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      How bout cour not getting anywhere because 3 morons are fighting for it.(5 morons in SEA)

    • @thoriqikhsanabdillahsyarif7029
      @thoriqikhsanabdillahsyarif7029 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      if not completed without f3 spam for courier

  • @spacet1me
    @spacet1me 2 ปีที่แล้ว +463

    They should've brought up all the different location of Rosh over the years.

    • @tinhov1
      @tinhov1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      one of the casters suit up as roshan and explaining where he lived over the ages. being annoyed by all the home invaders (slacks as CM enter the pit and hit him once).

    • @lugui
      @lugui 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      this was my immediate thought, but I guess thare isn't much to be said about it anyway...

    • @Sensorium19
      @Sensorium19 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      First thing I thought.

    • @Sensorium19
      @Sensorium19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@lugui Disagree. It used to define Dire side advantage.

    • @xTobsecretx
      @xTobsecretx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And roooooooons - there have been massive changes to runes over the years

  • @posermetal8884
    @posermetal8884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    The valve just poking into frame at 1:54 is a nice touch

    • @ballzack1747
      @ballzack1747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Thats the back side head of a bald man

    • @wazzzombie05
      @wazzzombie05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ballzack1747 i think he removed it for the video and attached it to the cylinder

    • @jenwilwisethe7686
      @jenwilwisethe7686 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where

    • @wazzzombie05
      @wazzzombie05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jenwilwisethe7686 on the left.. at that time frame

  • @JoNarDLoLz
    @JoNarDLoLz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    As a Supp/Offlane, I miss the side shop. Being able to build Arcane boots without risking your life/waiting for courier is a blessing as a support. Also, sneakily buying Blink Dagger at the side shop has helped me escape multiple deaths, and making the safe lane cry with dagger + echo at 9-10mins lmao

    • @yuuki3343
      @yuuki3343 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ahh, the side shop. The most dangerous place when there is techies. 😂

  • @mfliwrld7786
    @mfliwrld7786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    Valve never say anything just like that. This guy hinted that the outposts will be removed in the next update.

    • @RB-mm7ce
      @RB-mm7ce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @Richard de Bonn if people wanted to play dota classic, they would just create it on their own as a game mode

    • @thehound148
      @thehound148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RB-mm7ce there is

    • @bjnazerigaming8302
      @bjnazerigaming8302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      side shop back yea

    • @tobivan3190
      @tobivan3190 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think they would remove them completely, a tp point in the middle of the map makes the late game faster in a good way

    • @LevvyKlister
      @LevvyKlister 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes please

  • @milosh226
    @milosh226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Smashing job Pyrion! Such and entertaining guy

    • @theeutecticpoint
      @theeutecticpoint 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Here only because Sir Flax is such a ham, it's fantastic!

    • @lucianristache9725
      @lucianristache9725 ปีที่แล้ว

      I find him really cringy

  • @Polored1066
    @Polored1066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +685

    Damn i feel old
    Back in the dota 1 days, giving control of the courier also meant giving control of your hero (xD)
    When the courier died, the items it carried would drop to the ground and could be destroyed by opponent (ZSMJ famously lost a sacred relic like that)
    The side shop had like only 3 items at the beginning, and one of these 3 was Bottle.
    You had to manually buy each component of an item to assemble it, and component were split into like 10 different shops displaying a dozen items each
    Trees would respawn every 5 (or 10?) minutes no matter what, do you could get stuck in the trees if you walked by as they respawned.
    Neutrals left corpses after dying, and those corpses would block the camps from respawning.
    Glyph didn't make buildings immune to damage (let alone the creeps), instead it would give +999999 armor so you could still destroy a tower 1 damage at a time
    Dota 2 is definitly a better game
    I predict outposts to be removed next, nobody seem to care about them, i don't even know what they do

    • @frankcadillac1456
      @frankcadillac1456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Ok boomer

    • @appsenence9244
      @appsenence9244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      outposts might not be the best idea, I don't know, I haven't studies the idea well enough. But what I do know is that they offer some other thing than just "highground" inside of jungles that can make a team superior to the other. I don't think they're broken, and usually when something isn't strictly broken, it will always remain in dota. That's how it is.

    • @Blue__Oni
      @Blue__Oni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Nah, they are a decent mechanic, prevent your enemy from earning exp and teleporting to their side easier for pushes

    • @arahyoonseul4174
      @arahyoonseul4174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@appsenence9244 the outpost was designed to end the game faster. People can now tp closer when pushing or defending

    • @Polored1066
      @Polored1066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Ezio SF's swag combined with BKB's gigantism effect was so cool...

  • @aandrei1693
    @aandrei1693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Remember the days where the curier was left in an item box in the fountain up to when someone released it? Now that was brilliant!

    • @JoJoDaClown2
      @JoJoDaClown2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      First one to die, activate courier.... dangit, what do you mean you forgot to... okay, 2nd person to die.

    • @wellendoxairfix
      @wellendoxairfix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      the good ol' days.
      "We got no courier guys. Somebody buy"
      *nobody buys it*
      *carry then buys it, half heartedly*
      "Please support go back to base to activate it, or die and activate it"
      *nobody dies or goes back for over 10 min*
      Sigh.

    • @gorgit
      @gorgit ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wellendoxairfix I actually miss those times xD

  • @Titanokun
    @Titanokun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    As support player, Im very grateful on "everyone can have courier" update. No need to waiting for core player to use it first.

    • @alfomo6670
      @alfomo6670 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      'Member the mids bottle crowing for 10 minutes? Goddamn that was annoying

    • @Titanokun
      @Titanokun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alfomo6670 we remember. XD

  • @rudolphstroheim122
    @rudolphstroheim122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I started to play dota 2 again recently and I was quite surprised to find the side shops removed, multiple couriers, outposts, neutral items, a new place for Rosh, and such.

  • @itsmegolan
    @itsmegolan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    This is so entertaining. Kudos to mr. pyrionflax and mr. slack 👍

    • @mza3544
      @mza3544 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought I was the only one who really really really enjoyed these little skits but I guess we all love em

  • @oO_ox_O
    @oO_ox_O 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Snowy DotA 5.84c map, now those were times…

    • @captainobvious7033
      @captainobvious7033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you can still use it not sure what up to what version from before but -terrain snow works along with -weather rain/moonlight/acid rain/fog/snow

    • @erikwang4556
      @erikwang4556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When Rikimaru had death wards and everyone refused to get wards... Good times.

    • @danghoang8958
      @danghoang8958 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You still get snow map with dota plus

    • @ChriSX13
      @ChriSX13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ah yes how broken was riki

    • @captainobvious7033
      @captainobvious7033 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@erikwang4556 it's useless anyway that death ward is invulnerable and does not require channeling that sh*t is broken

  • @supertilapia
    @supertilapia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I really love the older map/battlefield. The aura and vibe was really nice

  • @RauMins
    @RauMins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I still remember the old Roshan, and also the creep mountain, I loved pulling the creeps there as Dark Seer ♥
    Oh memories of old, I tried getting back into Dota and got massive whiplash from the map being so different, amongst many other things.

  • @MCrystalMaidenn
    @MCrystalMaidenn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I miss old dota so much it was really fun especially when everyone had to share the same courier

    • @tenzingsamdup
      @tenzingsamdup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "fun"

    • @leipein
      @leipein 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      there's no fun in sharing couriers

    • @MCrystalMaidenn
      @MCrystalMaidenn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tenzingsamdup yes :3

    • @MCrystalMaidenn
      @MCrystalMaidenn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@leipein Well it was fun to me because a lot of people would argue over it and also fight over who is gonna buy the flying courier. When I'm gaming I like chaos better for some reason

    • @deckardcraigwyr8573
      @deckardcraigwyr8573 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      fun??? i am a support player and always become a victim, i have to buy that shit and i never use it bcz 3 morons always fight for it

  • @DrZaius3141
    @DrZaius3141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Two months ago I made a reddit post about the changes that happened from every single TI to the next. Essentially, the number of significant changes from TI9 to TI10 was about the same as the number for everything before that.
    The title of the post was "Changes between TIs" if anyone's interested.

    • @evgenykondrat1769
      @evgenykondrat1769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      7.00 was the biggest change ever as far as I remember. Basically it was a new game from then on.

    • @genlibrus3c
      @genlibrus3c 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evgenykondrat1769 Dota 2.5

  • @bananadrama1107
    @bananadrama1107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    5:17 Is this a foreshadowing of the outposts getting removed?

    • @raghuvansh.agarwal
      @raghuvansh.agarwal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      exactly what i thought

    • @jessierabino822
      @jessierabino822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      nice catch there

    • @ragekemi5471
      @ragekemi5471 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yup

    • @leecast1721
      @leecast1721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      nah, they removing mid lane

    • @Pcvro
      @Pcvro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think that's because watchposts used to be on the sideshop's location

  • @JigenLune
    @JigenLune 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Roshan had 3 different locations over the time. One was where the iconic "nobody has ever done that in the history of dota" moment happened, one was where the iconic "it's a disastah" moment happened and lastly, where he is located rn where some iconic plays also happened like OG vs LGD game 5 where ana's ember won them the fight after buying back

    • @tariefhassan7671
      @tariefhassan7671 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the 3rd location most iconic was when miracle deleted it from full hp to zero with arc warden

  • @lulululu8952
    @lulululu8952 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Did no one remember when there only one bounty rune spawn, and the one pick it get the gold??
    I really miss that, lvl 1 rune war is always happens, and taking bounty as support is bound to get blamed.

    • @Kfimenenpah
      @Kfimenenpah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lol I remember. Even now I sometimes find myself wanting to pick up the bounty rune before my teammates xD

    • @fyuira9585
      @fyuira9585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not only did bounty gives gold before it also gives exp. Haha

    • @allanmasanegra9523
      @allanmasanegra9523 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha Good thing Dota put more bounty runes and shared it to the team

    • @7Exartive
      @7Exartive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i always feel cool when i steal first bounty with phoenix dive

    • @amntevil5048
      @amntevil5048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      and alchemist player comes running from where ever the heck they are farming when they saw bounty rune.

  • @franciscarranza4670
    @franciscarranza4670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ah, that time when you can buy a blink dagger on side shop to blink tp away from a gank then selling it within 10 seconds to get the full refund

  • @SurferFlash
    @SurferFlash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I know this video is a bit older now, but I wanted to add some context to the multiple couriers.
    This was originally introduced in HoN (Heroes of Newerth) as a way to make the game less toxic and easier. HoN was significantly more punishing than Dota 2, in that the average GPM of a free farming carry was about 350, and kills were significantly less gold. It would be common for supports to end the game with boots, bracer, wand and nothing else, as Obs and Sent wards both cost gold (100 each) and killing wards did not give gold.
    This meant that the laning phase was incredibly challenging and hugely impactful to the outcome of the match. In Dota 2 there was a saying "the laning phase doesn't matter" because there were so many ways to recover if you died a few times in the lane. HoN did not have those comeback mechanics (it had a few but they were less impactful) so laning was everything. As an aside, jungle creeps were significantly stronger and not accessible to most heroes without lifesteal early on.
    When laning in Dota 2 - you generally purchase items and consumables. Consumables being healing items like potions etc. When there was only 1 courier, you could not get more items to your lane for a very long time. This means that heroes which scale with levels were significantly stronger than heroes which scale with items. It also meant that you could 100% shut down a carry. This means, if you are hurt, you must go back to the base. You could not send out more items to heal up. This would lead to you having less experience, and less gold.
    When multiple couriers were introduced the whole game shifted in HoN - and Dota 2 followed suit. The idea now was to continually transfer healing items to your lane so you can get all of the experience and continue to last hit creeps. If the enemies use all their mana, you send out 2 potions and heal right back up. This change was originally so impactful that teams were trying to abuse it by sharing consumables. This has been deemed too powerful and nerfs across the board have happened. Buying your mid a bottle, then sending out your own regen isn't possible due to bottle prices increase. Giving tangos have cooldowns, mana potions last longer so they are easier to remove, etc.
    Overall I personally think it was a good change for the game. Yes, it makes the game easier. Yes, there's no value to killing the enemy couriers now (previously if you killed the 1 courier their whole team couldn't use it). And Yes - it makes the game much more friendly. The toxicity level for the couriers was crazy, and I'm glad we each get our own now.

  • @nessaj6359
    @nessaj6359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I miss old map.

  • @romulusdraco1801
    @romulusdraco1801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol the 1 cour brought back ptsd memories I remember half the times nobody would even buy that 1 cour and it would be ''okay whoever dies first buys cour'' good times

  • @meoowww16
    @meoowww16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Having 1 courier for a whole team is hard specially when you have a toxic teammates fighting for cour and they will feed the cour so you wont get your items😆

    • @kanade2605
      @kanade2605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruh I remember, I was snowballing early as undying give my carry free lane. Proceed to aura item for siege tower and guess what, one toxic teammate that I dont know who drop my items in courier in middle of the lane

    • @meoowww16
      @meoowww16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kanade2605 thats the reason why im thankful gaben gives us 1 cour per player

    • @FireWyvern870
      @FireWyvern870 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "reuse"

    • @hellothere9167
      @hellothere9167 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You literally couldn't use it for first 5 minutes otherwise mid player would treat it like a warcrime

  • @anghoangnguyen9581
    @anghoangnguyen9581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really think side shop is nice, getting runes and run there to get stick or the axe, when courier was still limited, and also shrines, it gave you heal so you didn't have to go back all the way. These little things add more strategic aspects to the game. Oh and you forget the ES perma stun outpost.

  • @f12251225
    @f12251225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Puppey is the MVP of this clip, lol.

    • @Jwm367t
      @Jwm367t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the only player to actually play at every TI through every version of it.

  • @FTWIchigo
    @FTWIchigo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This type of content was 100% necessary.

  • @Rodrigolaw
    @Rodrigolaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These archives are awesome hahahah loved it

  • @stanleyyelnats297
    @stanleyyelnats297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love Pyrion so much. Truly a glorious egg

  • @muhammadyutitasril8081
    @muhammadyutitasril8081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really miss the side shop keepers, i hope they bring them back in the next patch

  • @loust1264
    @loust1264 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    im 15, i miss back when its 2003, good old days, times were much simpler

  • @DuelLinksSkuy
    @DuelLinksSkuy ปีที่แล้ว

    i love this content xD remembering patch,heroes,maps etc

  • @mikeortmyer1124
    @mikeortmyer1124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Seeing PFlax again in the dota scene is great! 😁

  • @kazzar831
    @kazzar831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been playing the game for years, and never once noticed the icon being in the shape of the map.

  • @huabamane2
    @huabamane2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh god, that brings up memories of playing 5.84c anno 2008 and organising battles via the DCE channel and then the Dota all-stars website

  • @MrErdem95
    @MrErdem95 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember back when from side shop you could buy a ring of regen and sell it before 10 seconds and do it again. It was basically a micro intensive regen tripling tactic. Good days.

  • @Megatilman1
    @Megatilman1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still remember in my past when they existed like side shop, one courier, shrine and old map. Now removed them..so rip 😭. Oh yes they said right coz many toxic want to control the courier to feed them like that. We can't do coz no one sent their item when the courier died.

  • @sampannarimal8816
    @sampannarimal8816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another amazing idea was to add the extra slot for TP.

  • @skellycat7806
    @skellycat7806 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shared courier is like playing tug-of-war with your teammates..fun

  • @youlackhatred266
    @youlackhatred266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahh the side shop... As a techies main, These were my bestest of friends.

  • @syahputraramadhansimbolon9242
    @syahputraramadhansimbolon9242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "buy courier please"
    " Upgrade courier please"
    Damn, I'm tired of hearing those words

    • @johnk3841
      @johnk3841 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My friend still has the hotkey assigned to those text lol

  • @nikusson
    @nikusson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    "who was the guy who invented shrines, tell me right now"
    Said Puppey, smilingly, while planning a murder in broad daylight.
    Also, sideshop. Remember being able to buy 6 tangoes, slippers, stout shield. And then buy quelling on sideshop. Memories.

    • @asseater2079
      @asseater2079 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We need PMS back, and maybe iron talon. I miss those days

    • @nikusson
      @nikusson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@asseater2079 Talon as a neutral would be really nice again honestly

  • @patrick-zb6fx
    @patrick-zb6fx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember when the courier just 1 for every players, and there's someone mad in every game because their items don't arrive after many minutes lol

  • @hasanhammoud6065
    @hasanhammoud6065 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep going in this. Its great

  • @shinecamerongamesph1257
    @shinecamerongamesph1257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought you're gonna discuss the MAP itself --- together with the rosh pit placement before, ramps, cliffs etc. not the MAP Feature

  • @andersonfrans
    @andersonfrans 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Actually, I missed the single courier day. Yes it is true that courier used to be object of abuse in pub games, but also that one is making every competitive games needs to have tight schedule on using it, also make it more scarier when used as baiting / vision tool. Nowadays killing courier have no prestige at all, and winning factor only decided by the draft and how much you succeeded / fucked up when execute the planned strategy.

    • @TheSpiritOfTheWest
      @TheSpiritOfTheWest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re right

    • @yagoosidol6338
      @yagoosidol6338 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it may be higher skill ceiling but man being support in those days ain't fun

  • @enso8762
    @enso8762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish we could play the old patches, as a support player I really like the first time neutral items were added. Spamming wards and sentries and still getting items to be tanky was so good

  • @Lex02615
    @Lex02615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember when we're too far ahead in dota 1 sniper can literally destroy enemy fountain. We also buy orbs that would give mana to couriers and buy dagons and the couriers can use those dagons. Good times.

  • @TheMisterEpic
    @TheMisterEpic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    side shops sadge

  • @kelvinlim9857
    @kelvinlim9857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Back in the day in DotA 1, where Radiant Ancient's position placed at bottom instead of center.
    Which makes Dire Team who wants to end the game faster, to push Bottom Lane instead of straightpush Middle Lane.

    • @EdwardTagala
      @EdwardTagala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What is map version

    • @kelvinlim9857
      @kelvinlim9857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EdwardTagala Pre-6.53, i think

  • @akai_suika
    @akai_suika 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man.. I want more of this.

  • @GranMaj
    @GranMaj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, side shop is a really useful laning tools early game, it sells essential early item like almost all component for boots, back then you can also buy couple of regen item like ring of health or void stone to sell and resell it to get a little bit more regen while you in lane. Side shop gives you immediate powerspike when your enemy least expected.

  • @fadehayz1671
    @fadehayz1671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ah I remember when there was one courier. Someone would but tome and send them using courier and then I control the courier to give me the tome. Good times.

  • @1997rew
    @1997rew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    минус аванпосты)

  • @dota2andfishing284
    @dota2andfishing284 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope one day the side shop comes back. Sage mask and wand are specific items depending on what heros you are against. By the time courrier brings you wand pa has already casted 3 daggers.

  • @lc9245
    @lc9245 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pick heroes with the little shops at the top. Rosh pit being closer to Scourge, pull camps repositioning, 7.00 map overhaul. Icefrog had been working DotA for almost 2 decades now. I don't even remember all of that changes any more.

  • @HawaiianCoconut
    @HawaiianCoconut 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you’re such an ancient dota player that all these examples read to me more like a changelog of things that are different now than a look into the past…

  • @DAVIDALVAREZ-ui8kv
    @DAVIDALVAREZ-ui8kv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    gracias por los Subtítulos

  • @Terlob
    @Terlob 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos are so good

  • @anggsa
    @anggsa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only reason I play offlane instead of mid lane is side shop, now they're gone. Ahh... I always love to get dagger or morbid mask without waiting courier to deliver it

  • @alZiiHardstylez
    @alZiiHardstylez ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Audibly said "oh shrines..." out loud.

  • @eragonrank5303
    @eragonrank5303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remember back then, as Offlane LC. You can buy your entire kit at side shop. PMS, Phase, Blink.

  • @TheGeneReyva
    @TheGeneReyva 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. It was great hearing what some pros had to say about these old map things that have disappeared over the years.

  • @_Matt29_
    @_Matt29_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad I got through the "Single Courier, Someone else buy/upgrade it" because it made me appreciate multiple couriers very, very much.

  • @pizzapakemt
    @pizzapakemt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg the one courier and forcing pos 5 to buy em was such an era

  • @keeyvasquez9989
    @keeyvasquez9989 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Una locura todo, hace 2 años que no juego dota, el último cambio que ví fue el de las tiendas laterales, entré a jugar y estaba perdido. El courier, que recuerdos cuando el support lo compraba y siempre había un desadaptado que lo mandaba hacie el enemigo. Los wards y sentrys que ahora son gratis. Los shrines siempre me parecieron una mala idea, y me imagino que para los profesionales debió ser un dolor de cabeza. Pero que bueno que un juego esté en constante cambio y aunque ya no lo juego disfruto viendo los torneos. ❤️

  • @oj43085
    @oj43085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember one play in one of the TIs where this player was getting ganked, he already bought a blink in his stash, he walked to the side shop, sold it, bought it from the side shop, blinked and TP away.

    • @paulolaygo1681
      @paulolaygo1681 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's armel puck from ti7 I believe

    • @amori8975
      @amori8975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You mean Gabbi

  • @AiC402
    @AiC402 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love to see again the manta dragon and wolf. And also the front, back, side arrow of Mirana.

  • @firenter
    @firenter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I was last actively playing Dota Roshan was still on the Dire side of the bottom river, very balanced IceFrog, very balanced...

  • @MJCreatives3000
    @MJCreatives3000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having one courier is the best moment when you want to troll or get pissed off if you get trolled. Gold old days

  • @Lokhmon
    @Lokhmon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What i miss ?
    I miss when buy scepter , hero got effect .
    Really awesome !!

  • @SgtDahaka
    @SgtDahaka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Give back single courier and side shop. Always a pleasure to fight your team first for the usage of the courier before facing the enemy team.

  • @lemmesmash
    @lemmesmash 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    bruh i freakin remember the side shops. i miss those old days

  • @hackerman4582
    @hackerman4582 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    please make more of these remember when videos

  • @patricksemilla4899
    @patricksemilla4899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:48 the best throws of those days you hide some of the items of your team in the trees and they are very confuse looking for the item

  • @hellothere9167
    @hellothere9167 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having backpacks was such a fresh breath

  • @pico0o0o_
    @pico0o0o_ ปีที่แล้ว

    i remember as a new player i would always control the courier and bring it to the enemy base and laugh as my teammates get pissed.

  • @kevinxin1545
    @kevinxin1545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Puppy just wants to know where Icefrog is so he can punch his monitor too.

  • @_helper_5789
    @_helper_5789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I started to play dota 2, we had a small mini game when we started finding a match. It is a quiz to how to “build” a item and it had a score on it. At that time, I just came from warcraft and gad no problem 😌

  • @saikiiii8548
    @saikiiii8548 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wished they would also talk about the rosh pit changes over the years.

  • @alliheart8336
    @alliheart8336 ปีที่แล้ว

    i remember the days when you accidentally press deliver in the courier you'd say reuse to that person who uses the courier first

  • @Holland1994D
    @Holland1994D ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh the single courier. Some games we didn't even had a courier or nobody bothered it to upgrade to a flying one. Not mentioning the fight who would get their items first. Or what about courier feeding.

  • @vsl5455
    @vsl5455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not one mention of Rosh getting a new house? :c
    Also side shop was super cool. I remember getting recipe for Midas on courier, and while it flew out grabbing the other 500 Gold for the glove to instantly combine it at the sideshop

  • @FairyRat
    @FairyRat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the series.

  • @ngapik6985
    @ngapik6985 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This series so good

  • @anton_roos
    @anton_roos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this!

  • @MrWearethechampion
    @MrWearethechampion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still remember sharing unit control to give courier to other members

  • @johnmellan1732
    @johnmellan1732 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss arguing with the team over the courier, people spam controlling the courier towards the enemy as you spam control it back to safety. Fun old times.

  • @MrLuc237
    @MrLuc237 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked the side shop. It's about the only thing i didn't see a reason to be removed and i still miss it to this day. If they made it so that it only had some small components it'd be a welcome addition to not have to wait for the courier every time.

  • @hanzo2151
    @hanzo2151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:00 hes damn right, back then only mid can use couriers not even carry can bother midlaner. And when cour can refill bottle from fountain and midlaner just using it like 10 times just to refill their bottle

  • @hatechm
    @hatechm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i thank god every day that the one courier was turned into 5

  • @abhishekpawar5126
    @abhishekpawar5126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    looking back now it feels crazy we used to share just one courier
    somebody had to buy it (usually the support) and also upgrade it to make it fly
    you could also buy many couriers
    it took just one toxic guy to buy many couriers and feed them to the enemy to ruin everyone's game
    you could also steal somebodies tome of knowledge on the courier
    individual couriers is probably the best thing to happen to dota in a long time

  • @humanunitneverkilled577
    @humanunitneverkilled577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i feel like they'll do a patch where they bring this all back.
    imagine shrines outposts and side shops returned in one patch.

  • @DekrisPratama
    @DekrisPratama 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbh, as support player pos 4 I really love the shrines especially the one near the Mid radiant tower coz I can keep my mid from gank like Sniper and Zeus mid with no escape ability.

  • @VKOp1No3
    @VKOp1No3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember buying a ring of health at the side shop for a bit of hp then selling it again afterwards.

  • @wikeff
    @wikeff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woaw! Starting with Elgar Cello Concerto, noice