Makes me glad that Norwich, whilst not rich are a self-funding club. Developing players and selling them on. A self-sustaining business model. A yo-yo club they may be, but the fans stick behind the club because they know they are well run and are celebrate the minor successes as big achievements.
well united is an self sufficient club too glazers has taken almost 2 billions from united without investing anytimg whatever united buy isnt glazers money we are not city or chelsea
You have the best youtube channel also, it even has 10+ videos of highlights of massive losses. As far as United go they were debt free for over 70 years and still are a self funding club. They just have leeches sucking the money out aswell.
Clubs that sell their best players all the time before they even attempt to challenge for anything strike me as having little desire to win trophies which like defeats the point of competing. These fans probably at one point wonder whether the club actually want to win or not by making the rich get even richer but I guess it's better to not financially be in the red.
The problem with United is you’d have to spend billions to buy them, that’s without even investing in the club or facilities Newcastle, £400m already in the same league and arguably wouldn’t need much more investment than united in the playing squad... United would probably need to spend £300m on the squad and Newcastle wouldn’t need much more. Even investing £600m to their squad would mean you’ve spent 3 billion less than you would at United to get them at the same level on the pitch
you’d have to take into account that United also has a unique prestige that Newcastle doesn’t have (yet). There’s a difference between being the owner of Man Utd instead of Newcastle.
Joe B but they also have more expenses, they’ve made a loss a few times over the last couple of years because those costs are so high. Newcastle don’t have the high costs yet but can potentially get that higher income meaning you can actually spend your money on improving the club rather than balancing the books. Mike Ashley has done a fantastic job at making sure Newcastle make money... The 3 or 4 billion it would take to buy United before spending a penny on the squad, ground ect would turn Newcastle into an absolute powerhouse. 4 billion buys you the club with United 4 billion with Newcastle, can you imagine what that would get you there?
@@andyhill3508 personally i do. Their content is class but imo it was just a tad bit better before the athletic came along. I still love them and think they are the best football YT channel
they really really are but nobody other than united fan notice. and now newcastle are getting an arab takeover. we need a takeover quickly our debt has just gone 42% for christ sake,
Second highest Premier league Net spend in the past 5 years, so no they aren't American Mike Ashley. Stan Kroenke is American Mike Ashley, he's far worse than the glazers.
champdude17 no but you really don’t seem to realise, all of manchester united’s money is from revenue, and the glazers have given them nothing, and taken over 1 billion from the club whilst putting them in a fuck ton of debt
@@ryan_lmao I think its also important to note they also own an NFL team called the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They bought it before they bought united and the NFL is very very revenue based. They get fans to stay in stadiums for 3 hours+ because the longer you make fans stay in the stadium the more they will buy the $9 bottle of water or the $17 hot dog that probs cost $2 to make. Go onto the NFL Europe shop and shirts are £100! I think they went into the United purchase thinking that the 2 models between Nfl and Premier League would be fine although it has been more bumpy than that. Hopefully for United fans they'll sell the team for some liquidity during this crisis and focus on their Tampa Bay team.
The problem with the glazers is that they've run the club like a business for the past seven years. Big name signings, decking out the club with sponsors, they've essentially halted the development of the club the way it should've been during the post Ferguson era. That seems to be changing with OGS coming in but only time will really tell.
Can you guys make a video on the SaveTheCrew movement and how the entire MLS pitched in to prevent the Columbus Crew from moving to Austin? A very good story on how football and passion won against greed.
As a Brit the idea of a team moving city is nigh on unthinkable, Arsenal moving out of North London, Tottenham moving out of the sewers or any of the Manchester teams moving out of Manchester. I cant understand why its so common in the US is it just more people live here so team goes here for more money? But then 3 years later after the novelty of having a team in the area wears off surely people stop watching and the funds dry up. Do teams just up and move AGAIN? How is that healthy for sport in any long term way, hell even in the short term as the stadiums are costing 100s of millions of dollars. I remember reading that Stan Kroenke after getting state funding to build a stadium on the grounds the club stayed in that city moved only a few years later saddling that city with a new empty stadium how is that even legal.
Thinking about it... if the US just added promotion and regulation each city could found there own team and fight it out in the correct way on the pitch instead of over the table. This just goes back to the US's stupid system of only 20 teams in a locked league instead of 1000s of teams in an unlocked one but with divisions like in the UK or ANY OTHER NATION. Who can blame anyone for wanting a top flight team nearby and when the only way to get one is to out bid another city for it seems to me that the system is rigged for the owners of the teams to get huge money bribes from citys.
@@kino6395 It has got more to do with franchise football. Unlike the PL clubs, clubs in the MLS are franchises which do not have a concept of either shared ownership with the fans or there's no sense of community building Stateside. European clubs have emerged from the historical developments in the local communities, industries, traders etc. US clubs have emerged from the capitalist expansion of multi-billionaires. And yes, the argument of novelty is spot on. The connection is not due to belongingness, but due to mere novelty of having a team in the area (without local players and local representation).
True but there is talk they will relax FFP due to the COVID-19, plus other clubs might need to sell key players to balance the books so Newcastle might be able to buy stars on the cheap. They also have a very healthy balance sheet thanks to not spending money lol
@@TheAlphaDingo yeap but buying cheaper players wont exactly propel them to the top. But I can see newcastle challenging for Europa league in a few years time like wolves
@@chazord888 It's actually a very strong league, with some of the best stadium atmospheres in football. Plus it's better than a kick in the pants! (zero live football..) 👍🏼
@@chazord888 leaps ahead? There isnt even english football atm. With an exciting title race, a real fight for CL places and a positive play style Bundesliga is a joy to watch honestly.
You've missed one huge point with the finances. United have generated huge revenue which has primarily been spent on servicing the Glazer debt and paying out ludicrous dividends and directors salaries to the Glazers. If you removed that, the club is easily able to finance increased transfer market spending and stadium improvements without further investment by the new owners
@@imconfused1237 when you're arguing the club won't increase in value because you have to invest additional funds, when in actuality no investment is required it's massively relevant. Plenty of investors own shares for long term resale value rather than short term returns from dividends
inBODwetrust13 | Cash is king my friend. Wait for the big pay day? COVID is crashing global economies. The Glazers ARE the smart guys. They took money out and tucked it away. Their strategy was utter genius. Facts.
The thing is, since Manchester City takeover the teams have strenghted, Liverpool came back as a dominant force, Leicester, Wolverhampton and Everton had major upgrades in squad and manager, so it's not going to be easy for Newcastle to reach top4
I personally think teams have gotten worse a lot worse If arsenal Chelsea united and even spurs had their squads from a few years ago Liverpool wouldn’t be running away with the league they would win it yes but not run away Because teams are getting worse we are seeing more and more smaller clubs get better seasons like wolves leaicster and shefield because for one they arnt competing with wc squads and they have money to spend and attract top talent because those talent don’t see other prem clubs to be a good idea
Newcastle are on the up mate they already have started winning games left right and centre by the end of the season i recon Newcastle will be in 10th or above if other teams fail to proceed up the table above them
The Glazers are the main responsibles for the mismanagement and sportive errands of the team in recent years. Nothing nicer than watching them leave. (Sighs)
Dry Frenzy close minded idiot. He doesn’t want his morals to be compromised by allowing murderous dictators to purchase the club. I would rather have a tough road to the top than a quick one with the Saudis at the top. There are more important things than football like human rights and equality neither of which the Saudis practice. Grow up.
@@trtvitor5837 Sure, I don't like at all the idea of those very morally dubious fellows at the helm, but is not like the Glazers are charity workers either.
That was a good video but hated the conclusion that we can’t get rid of the Glazers because in fact we are too big to sell just killed my soul a little bit.
Recently utd's debt increased and if it keeps increasing with unsustainable revenues due to lack of success, there is a possibility that they could sell
Sadly they won't. overall manchester united are still a profitable club and at the moment everyone is losing money. Until something big happens the leeches are going to stay sucking the club dry
Youre right, the value did almost half, however as the economy recovers after the economic downturn, almost all companies that survive will actually see upturn in the long run, this should include Man Utd
Thats the difference between poor people and rich. poor people have to sell to meet responsibilities, rich can hold on for better times. No way they are gonna sell with OTT on the way. They can continue to get their dividends and still sell for 4+BN in a year or two if they want to. If they saw United as a stock to sell for profit, they would have sold at 4.
@@ryanedwards805 Actually theres a reasonable amount of evidence that says the market will stabilise after 6 months of things being back to normal with the trend averaging out to be upward overall.
"..., while their investment in the local area has cemented their bond with city fans and earn them positive headlines." The Emptyhad: am i joke to you?
dude the joke is dead, clearly Man U havent won anything other than the europa. They just rely on the old success story they had in their golden ages and SAF's legacy.
When I was visited Manchester, interestingly locals tends to support City rather than United, I'm not sure, but I think old trafford is packed with tourist.
City became so big because the investment came at a time when oil prices were going up AND most clubs didn't have the financial power they do now. Newcastle competing for top four, maybe. Them getting to the level city or even psg got because of the investment is unlikely
They can sell it tomorrow by putting all their shares on the stock market. People would buy instantly. Manchester United was a public company with thousands of shareholders before the Glazers. We don't actually need a rich owner because we generate enough money ourselves, but that money is currently being drained by Debt incurred by Glazers etc. What needs to happen is they sell their stake to public and funds in controlled manner.
what about a video about good clubs across various leagues (not just in the big 5 leagues) that could be a good purchase for any interested investor? and the future investments needed in the club that was bought? by the way i love this channel. always looking for the next one no matter the subject. compliments from portugal!
Worth remembering that for many of the acquisitions of football clubs over the mast few years making money was absolutely a secondary concern. The Saudis almost certainly dont give a shit if they make any money from Newcastle. It's a PR / marketing exercise first and foremost. The amount of money required to buy Man Utd doesnt really make that nearly as attractive. Also worth noting Man Utd is already a worldwide brand, Newcastle isn't to nearly the same degree. If I'm running a PR exercise I want all the attention on me, not on the existing value of what I already bought.
Dinamo Bucharest, team with history and fans in Romania was sold by the old owner with 1 RON = 0.24 USD. A spanish "businessman" bought it and the team now is closer to bankruptcy. Fans are the only hope of the club, luckily they didn't sold their actions so now fans are the only income of the club. DINAMO BUCHAREST needs more than anything a new wealthy owner, it's one of the few clubs with tradition left in Romania 🇷🇴 and looks like not for long... 😥
I would say yes. It would take an incredible amount of money to buy the club, at least 5b. Utd generate a lot of revenue but with that amount of investment you’re not going to generate a lot of profit. They’re pretty much topped out the amount of revenue the club can generate. There’s really no growth possible. NUFC on the other hand takes a far less investment and has a lot of potential growth.
@@TheBadmanguy His "vision" is sending crap into space and electric cars that are prohibitively expensive and crap. He seems like a decent person but he's not the Messiah.
4:30 the capacity has been or will be reduced to around 73,000 as far I know. They need to put a lot more of disability seats & access to comply to Accesible Stadia guideline. Not just Old Trafford, all English stadia have to adhere to this guideline and saw their capacity reduced slightly (except for a few like the Spurs stadium)
Newcastle most CERTAINLY does not lack a large international airport. Pretty disappointing on such a basic fact, Tifo is usually pretty good with stuff. You do have some howlers though, highlighted all he more starkly because of the usual good quality.
Still not convinced about why Newcastle tho - why not Leeds or Villa, airports and closer to London. Newcastle could be a ruse to force the Glazers into selling.
Refurbishment of old Trafford is extremely difficult. One the south side there are a lot of houses so Utd can’t really renovate the south side without paying off the residents of these houses. And a complete rebuild is definitely not an option, the fans will not be happy with that.
Kinda a wrong read. The cost to 8mproving United is priced in. Hence no interest at 4 billion. Blazers continue to damage the brand with bad football and no silverware and it will depreciate
For Manchester United to be more viable as a money making club with investment potential, they need to start consistently performing plus they need to let a manager actually implement their style of play instead of just firing when the manager doesn’t perform to their standards. Look at Wolves or Sheffield United for example, they don’t have the spending power of the Top 4 but they’re still pushing for European Football (Europa League) because their management structure has been allowed to adapt the teams playing style to complement their management style and therefore get fairly consistent results.
I dont understand why they dont just create the best academy in the world?. Step 1: Glazers must be convinced to stash away 50 Million Pounds to buy youth players of other countries (Age 16-17 if you can work around the working papers issue then Age 15 as well) Step 2: Proceed to purchase the best scouts in multiple countries and start slowly buying young players out of that 50 Million pot Step 3: Have those players PLAY AT MANCHESTER UNITED on the youth team until they are age 18. THEN and only then do you loan them to a smaller English club This will ensure Manchester United can not only craft the player to their liking through the most crucial stages of development as a teenager to either eventually join the First Team or to craft them in a way that will make them the most profit (aka if you know Barcelona likes your youth player, maybe you train that player for the season prior to transferring to fit Barca’s system to ensure the transfer goes even more smoothly. If they’re old enough maybe in that case loan them to a small Spanish team before selling to Barcelona.) whichever they decide to use this method for. I feel like this is something that clubs like Ajax and Borussia Dortmund are known for but those clubs dont have anywhere near the reach or the resources of Manchester United. Plus this method wouldnt even have anything to do with the First Team budget whatsoever as this is in theory a completely separate organization with goals of their own that also happen to help the club (Think La Masia). Want to get back on top? Start building from the bottom.
Mate creating the best academy isn't easy and isn't about splashing cash. The best academies in the world are ajax, Borussia Dortmund and Monaco who don't splash cash
“Newcastle lacks a large international airport” ... apart from Newcastle International Airport. Either uncharacteristically poorly researched in this area or Tifo doesn’t consider it large. It’s not Schiphol but you can fly all over the world from it so I’m not sure what the point is if it’s the latter. Good videos aside from this though 👌🏻
Yeah pif bought newcastle for £300 million but for that deal to go though they payed being sport £1 billion in compensation for illegally streaming games. So thay have spent alot more than people realise to buy newcastle United
I hate the glazers so much. They don’t care about our club and they don’t care if it goes to ruin. All they care about is money. We need to get rid of them, they have destroyed our beloved club.
I was hoping the Glazers would've sold the club once Malcolm popped his clogs, due to the emotional stress of their father's death getting in the way. Sadly not the case. 😒
Day 13 of asking Tifo to make a vid on the 1991/92 Leeds side that won the league only 2 seasons after being promoted from an 8-year spell in the 2nd tier. This triumph is so far removed from the Revie era that I think it'd make for a really interesting analysis
Regarding Newcastle. Maybe they really did their research into how English people see English football. I'd say Newcastle United is a well liked club. Kinda like the opposite to teams like Leeds, West Ham, Chelsea and Millwall.
I wish I could be the "JOKER" of the PERSONA 5 game, entered the persona palace of the Glazer Shadow, steal the treasure and finally in the real world, Glazers would confess their sins and give up the ownership of Man Utd.
Unless you get an insane offer i don’t see why anyone would ever sell the cash cow that is Manchester United Also as you say United aren’t an investment with enough upside to make it worth the price it would cost
Although Ed Woodward is slated by the Manchester United community, he;s done a hell of a job making sure United are economically secure. As soon as he relinquishes control of the football side of the club whilst he works on brand deals, we'll see United continue to improve.
That's very true, but the problem is Ed has completely rebuffed the idea of hiring a Football Director and continues to have the final say. Woodward is not a football guy and never will be, so unless he understands this and appoints a guy who takes decision from footballing perspective, United are not likely to challenge for the title anytime soon
Manchester United is listed on the New York Stock Exchange, which means anyone who wants to buy it can freely do so. The problem is that you can only buy Class A shares which have low voting rights, so even if someone bought every single Man Utd share they'd only have 3% of the voting rights, which means you have no control over the club. The Glazers family meanwhile owns all the Class B shares, which together has 97% of the voting rights which means complete control over the club.
Unpopular opinion: Manchester United is a listed company and is valued at USD 2.7 billion today (when the markets are so down).. Now full ownership usually comes with a 25% premium, so USD 4bn is a fair price demand from Glazers. You can spend a lot and may buy players, but from where will fans come. Look at City, winning/challenging top 2 for the last 10 years, still the stadium is empty. MU deserves a premium, because you start with a huge fan base and it's easy to get players, than to get to say Newcastle United..
Buy Newcastle and turn them into Ajax/Dortmund sensible spending and aim to attract the best young talent globally. United offered big contracts to keep up with PSG and city and ended up with overpaid mid table average players. You need the right coaches, manager, sporting director and scouts. I think LVG is the right guy, really good coach and if he is backed with money and given time to develop kids, you will see attractive football and none of the pressure to win the league in 3 years, you couldn't do it with team like NU but give him 3-5 years and he will lay great foundation for the future.
The joke is the less the Glazers invest in renovations, the women's team and youth development the more it will cost a new owner making them less likely to want to buy.
Why didn't MBS buy Chelsea? Roman has been trying to sell it for a while, it's in London, wouldn't be as expensive as united... and still miles better than newcastle. Maybe a video on that? Cheers guys, love the content!
Mate those assets have tripled in value but City’s owners have invested billions in to Manchester City, billions that should have been invested into UAE citizens and the workers that they exploit.
I saw another video which says Utd traning complex is also outdated, being a money machine all these years idk how the owners let that happen while the owners of chelsea and city were build a new academy and training grounds soon after their purchases.
One of the things that makes me happy about Argentina's football it's the fact that a club being buy by a private investor it's illegal and the club owners are their supporters who vote who is going to be the chairman. Of course there are investors or bussinesmen who take over and try to aproach the club as a bussines enterprise, like Macri in Boca, TInelli in San Lorenzo or the sad case of my club Talleres with Fassi one of the owners of the Pachuca Group trying to use the club as a part of their multinational franchise...but we can still vote to sack him out haha! Hope it still this way forever.
In fact, Newell's Old Boys, one of the giants of Rosario has a great story of their supporters sacking Eduardo Lopez a chairman who was in charge since 1994 to 2008 who abort elections and use the ultras in a mafia way to stay in power that long and put the club in an economic and structural crisis. I remember Marcelo Bielsa, Gerardo Martino, Heinze among others supporting the fight of the supporters to bring back democratic elections in the club, it was quite emotional.
As a Manchester United fan, this just makes me sad.. If this is the case as stated in the video, United are on the verge of becoming a mid-level club if they don’t win anything major in the next 2-3 years.. Also, Old Trafford getting Old has been a lot of concern, but what’s sad is that Glazers won’t bother to spend money on rebuilding the stadium.. Already stadiums like Emirates and The Tottenham Hotspur Stadium looks so awesome and has all the 21st century amenities..
Alex Wallhead No way I want this drought to continue and become just a historic club.. But given the cheapfuck nature of Glazers and FFP rules prohibiting owners to flush in their own money, the only way United can get these things done and still be a WC club is to win major trophies in next 3 years.. We still have 800M debt to settle as well
We do have an international airport in Newcastle!! We also have a brilliant stadium smack bang in the middle of the bustling vibrant city. A city that lives and breathes one football club with a catchment area stretching from Durham in the south to Carlisle in the west to Berwick in the north. Huge untapped potential. Let’s not forget nearly winning the premier league twice in the 90s and also nearly winning the games cup 2 years running in the 90s. Dont underestimate newcastle my friend.
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When the Glazers bought the club in 2003, we still managed 10 years of success. From what i've read, they've been pretty hands off. I prefer owners to be hands off. Do we really want to see the owner making direct decisions in transfers?
That's even worse. I have a theory that the glazers left the club to a board of former bankers and these guys are loving the power the they hold and don't want anyone coming in to change that so they employ former players who can pretend to be making decisions like Fletcher and also being someone who fans liked. Fletcher is so bored he's joined the coaching staff and sits next to Ralf. We're doomed. The glazers simply are about how much Manchester United makes and how much they can take from the club. Remember it's their father who bought the club. United is just one of their assets nothing special to them.
One could buy the 10%outstanding shares. Then the debt, then work on some of the younger smaller family share holders. But would it really be worth it.?
Newcastle and Leeds are sleeping giants of English football, if Chelsea or Man City can reach the European heights there is no reason to doubt that oil money can’t propel the two other clubs in question.
Implying a Saudi royal would care about how much it would cost to buy/run the club. The reason arab money is used in these projects is sportswashing - improve the image of the area using the support that sports teams get. City/PSG owner's haven't made anything off buying these clubs, especially considering all the sponsorships they've recieved are also owned by the owners and is basically financial doping, but they have been successful in improving their image.
Okay, before you talk about FS of a company, you need to have sound knowledge on that. People talking here about debt of 430m which in reality is net debt. Our debt has been same since 2008 which is over half a million. Nearly all of the world economies run on debt. As long as there is a cadh flow you can always pay off debt. Despite our on pitch struggles, our FS are always strong managing record revenues & profits last financial year. My only opposition is that success in the commercial front is not translated in the football side bcoz of our hierarchy.
This just shows how incompetent this club is. They haven't even come close to winning the Premier League or the Champions League while outspending everyone
Just goes to show you the people at the top of the food don't know shit about football. Forget City, imagine cashing out 200mil for a troublesum wuss to win you one single trophy and he still can't do it. Same money could've bought several other monstrous ballers.
I'm new to watching soccer and I was wonder whyy the person in the video is so focused about the fans? The fans are gonna buy tickets/club t-shirts no matter what. In American football the happiness of a fan is rarely a concern as the team owners know they are gonna make money regardless. Thank you.
@@NeilSharks many fans have realized that the owners are only in it for the money. Of course that's obvious, it is a business, but they do not put fans first
I don't think so. In a world where a single player can cost a quarter of a billion dollars, euros, or even pounds there's no reason spending tens of billions on a club is not only possible, but a good investment.
So we’ve basically made ourselves impossible to buy and we’re stuck with these leeches till God knows when?
Glory glory man united LOL
No, it's because of huge debt Man U has
Moses N The video didn’t say anything about the debt. Plus buyers like MBS or Jeoff Bezos could wipe that out in two seconds flat.
@@mosesndagije you don't understand debt. You don't understand economy. You don't understand big businesses. So please just stfu.
@@iwantgoals1566 Now you know that Manchester United's value is after the debt has been paid off.
5:18 _"...and who...has that kind of money!?"_
lol the Tifo man almost broke character.
jeff bezoz would easily pay 6 bn pounds
Nura Nur what I thought exactly. Bezos has enough money to buy Arsenal, Man City, Man United & Liverpool & still have money to spare
@@nuranur6879 His worth is estimated to be 80-100 billion dollars. Even for him 6 million pounds isn't exactly pocket change.
andrew7taylor yes it is 😂
Michael J Fox Most of that money is the stakes that he has in his company Amazon, he definitely wouldn’t have 6 billion just waiting to be spent
Mission in life: make 8 billion buy Manchester United, upgrade our stadium. Im on it...🙂
True it is the thing that motivates me the most.
I’m with you brother
Let’s start by buying up shares
I’ve already got 100.
I’ll sign Messi for us
Done
Why upgrade the stadium have u ever been to Old Trafford more like invest in players
The answer: yeah....
it a fucking football club... rich fan born everyday... but yet again... why would they buy a overprice brand...
campkira I mean it’s one of the most profitable business in the world
campkira they are doing shit no way
The answer: no, but now isn't the time it will happen.
Watch out Newcastle United will overtake Manchester Red FC in a few years.
Makes me glad that Norwich, whilst not rich are a self-funding club. Developing players and selling them on. A self-sustaining business model. A yo-yo club they may be, but the fans stick behind the club because they know they are well run and are celebrate the minor successes as big achievements.
Not a Norwich supporter but really like how they run their club, a great example to everyone
well united is an self sufficient club too glazers has taken almost 2 billions from united without investing anytimg
whatever united buy isnt glazers money we are not city or chelsea
I mean at least you guys get to win the Championship.
You have the best youtube channel also, it even has 10+ videos of highlights of massive losses. As far as United go they were debt free for over 70 years and still are a self funding club. They just have leeches sucking the money out aswell.
Clubs that sell their best players all the time before they even attempt to challenge for anything strike me as having little desire to win trophies which like defeats the point of competing. These fans probably at one point wonder whether the club actually want to win or not by making the rich get even richer but I guess it's better to not financially be in the red.
The problem with United is you’d have to spend billions to buy them, that’s without even investing in the club or facilities
Newcastle, £400m already in the same league and arguably wouldn’t need much more investment than united in the playing squad... United would probably need to spend £300m on the squad and Newcastle wouldn’t need much more. Even investing £600m to their squad would mean you’ve spent 3 billion less than you would at United to get them at the same level on the pitch
Man Utd brings in more revenue hence why it’s worth so much.
you’d have to take into account that United also has a unique prestige that Newcastle doesn’t have (yet). There’s a difference between being the owner of Man Utd instead of Newcastle.
@@hoorbodzarrineh8303 In accounting terms this would be classified as "Goodwill" and this is definitely a factor in a valuation.
Joe B but they also have more expenses, they’ve made a loss a few times over the last couple of years because those costs are so high. Newcastle don’t have the high costs yet but can potentially get that higher income meaning you can actually spend your money on improving the club rather than balancing the books. Mike Ashley has done a fantastic job at making sure Newcastle make money...
The 3 or 4 billion it would take to buy United before spending a penny on the squad, ground ect would turn Newcastle into an absolute powerhouse.
4 billion buys you the club with United
4 billion with Newcastle, can you imagine what that would get you there?
FFP will be a hindrance to Newcastle.
Previously the video was from the article from the athletic.
Now the entire Tifo is brought by athletic.
Probably a hostile takeover.
Who cares? Their content is class
@@andyhill3508 personally i do. Their content is class but imo it was just a tad bit better before the athletic came along.
I still love them and think they are the best football YT channel
@@bananarama3624 agreed man agreed
Tifo been one of the channels holding me over this quarantine
The Glazers are just the American Mike Ashley
they really really are but nobody other than united fan notice. and now newcastle are getting an arab takeover. we need a takeover quickly our debt has just gone 42% for christ sake,
Second highest Premier league Net spend in the past 5 years, so no they aren't American Mike Ashley. Stan Kroenke is American Mike Ashley, he's far worse than the glazers.
champdude17 no but you really don’t seem to realise, all of manchester united’s money is from revenue, and the glazers have given them nothing, and taken over 1 billion from the club whilst putting them in a fuck ton of debt
@@ryan_lmao We were gonna get taken over but then a deal collapsed
@@ryan_lmao I think its also important to note they also own an NFL team called the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They bought it before they bought united and the NFL is very very revenue based. They get fans to stay in stadiums for 3 hours+ because the longer you make fans stay in the stadium the more they will buy the $9 bottle of water or the $17 hot dog that probs cost $2 to make. Go onto the NFL Europe shop and shirts are £100! I think they went into the United purchase thinking that the 2 models between Nfl and Premier League would be fine although it has been more bumpy than that. Hopefully for United fans they'll sell the team for some liquidity during this crisis and focus on their Tampa Bay team.
The problem with the glazers is that they've run the club like a business for the past seven years. Big name signings, decking out the club with sponsors, they've essentially halted the development of the club the way it should've been during the post Ferguson era. That seems to be changing with OGS coming in but only time will really tell.
Time told.
@@firstnamesurname5376 good to watch it as a rival fan. And nope not a Liverpool fan.
Can you guys make a video on the SaveTheCrew movement and how the entire MLS pitched in to prevent the Columbus Crew from moving to Austin? A very good story on how football and passion won against greed.
As a Brit the idea of a team moving city is nigh on unthinkable, Arsenal moving out of North London, Tottenham moving out of the sewers or any of the Manchester teams moving out of Manchester.
I cant understand why its so common in the US is it just more people live here so team goes here for more money? But then 3 years later after the novelty of having a team in the area wears off surely people stop watching and the funds dry up. Do teams just up and move AGAIN?
How is that healthy for sport in any long term way, hell even in the short term as the stadiums are costing 100s of millions of dollars.
I remember reading that Stan Kroenke after getting state funding to build a stadium on the grounds the club stayed in that city moved only a few years later saddling that city with a new empty stadium how is that even legal.
Thinking about it... if the US just added promotion and regulation each city could found there own team and fight it out in the correct way on the pitch instead of over the table. This just goes back to the US's stupid system of only 20 teams in a locked league instead of 1000s of teams in an unlocked one but with divisions like in the UK or ANY OTHER NATION.
Who can blame anyone for wanting a top flight team nearby and when the only way to get one is to out bid another city for it seems to me that the system is rigged for the owners of the teams to get huge money bribes from citys.
@@kino6395 It has got more to do with franchise football. Unlike the PL clubs, clubs in the MLS are franchises which do not have a concept of either shared ownership with the fans or there's no sense of community building Stateside. European clubs have emerged from the historical developments in the local communities, industries, traders etc. US clubs have emerged from the capitalist expansion of multi-billionaires.
And yes, the argument of novelty is spot on. The connection is not due to belongingness, but due to mere novelty of having a team in the area (without local players and local representation).
Have you heard of MK Dons
@@hmallard173 Yeah and there's a reason they're a one off and the most hated club in the UK.
That being said, dont expect a Man city esque rise from Newcastle if the takeover goes through. FFP rules are much stricter nowadays.
True but there is talk they will relax FFP due to the COVID-19, plus other clubs might need to sell key players to balance the books so Newcastle might be able to buy stars on the cheap. They also have a very healthy balance sheet thanks to not spending money lol
Alpha Dingo that’s true
@@TheAlphaDingo yeap but buying cheaper players wont exactly propel them to the top. But I can see newcastle challenging for Europa league in a few years time like wolves
how did Leipzig get to the top of German football then?
They'll probably get a whole sponsor from Saudi Arabia that will help them with ffp
Manchester United also have the Iniesta-like, Jesse Lingard in their squad.
also the *Phenomenal Phil "sharpshooter" Jonesta*
No one is better than the maestro lingardinho
The joke is old
@@minning5586 Made my day XD !!!
Now that the Bundesliga is back I really want to thank you for getting me through this time
Bundesliga more like fucking boring ball don't know how youse watch that shit just goes to show English football is leaps and bounds ahead of anywhere
@@chazord888 It's actually a very strong league, with some of the best stadium atmospheres in football. Plus it's better than a kick in the pants! (zero live football..) 👍🏼
@@chazord888 leaps ahead? There isnt even english football atm. With an exciting title race, a real fight for CL places and a positive play style Bundesliga is a joy to watch honestly.
@@chazord888 English? More like Saudi football
420charles Bundesliga > pl this season
You've missed one huge point with the finances. United have generated huge revenue which has primarily been spent on servicing the Glazer debt and paying out ludicrous dividends and directors salaries to the Glazers. If you removed that, the club is easily able to finance increased transfer market spending and stadium improvements without further investment by the new owners
Right. But what’s the point of being an owner if you don’t receive a dividend? These are businesses mate. The goal is to MAKE money.
The glazers are using our club as a cash cow they took 11 million dollars out of the club this year already
@@imconfused1237 when you're arguing the club won't increase in value because you have to invest additional funds, when in actuality no investment is required it's massively relevant. Plenty of investors own shares for long term resale value rather than short term returns from dividends
inBODwetrust13 | Cash is king my friend. Wait for the big pay day? COVID is crashing global economies. The Glazers ARE the smart guys. They took money out and tucked it away. Their strategy was utter genius. Facts.
Ed Woodward | They own it. They can do whatever they want with it. Facts.
The thing is, since Manchester City takeover the teams have strenghted, Liverpool came back as a dominant force, Leicester, Wolverhampton and Everton had major upgrades in squad and manager, so it's not going to be easy for Newcastle to reach top4
Late 00s Arsenal won't get Top 4 these days.
I personally think teams have gotten worse a lot worse
If arsenal Chelsea united and even spurs had their squads from a few years ago Liverpool wouldn’t be running away with the league they would win it yes but not run away
Because teams are getting worse we are seeing more and more smaller clubs get better seasons like wolves leaicster and shefield because for one they arnt competing with wc squads and they have money to spend and attract top talent because those talent don’t see other prem clubs to be a good idea
Newcastle are on the up mate they already have started winning games left right and centre by the end of the season i recon Newcastle will be in 10th or above if other teams fail to proceed up the table above them
The Glazers are the main responsibles for the mismanagement and sportive errands of the team in recent years. Nothing nicer than watching them leave. (Sighs)
Yadisf Haddad unfortunately, as a Man Utd fan, I know this won’t be happening anytime soon
Not if the Saudis are coming. Would rather have the Glazers.
@@tinyspeaker You would actually rather have the Glazers and the Saudis??? Can tell you don't want our club to succeed in the slightest
Dry Frenzy close minded idiot. He doesn’t want his morals to be compromised by allowing murderous dictators to purchase the club. I would rather have a tough road to the top than a quick one with the Saudis at the top. There are more important things than football like human rights and equality neither of which the Saudis practice. Grow up.
@@trtvitor5837 Sure, I don't like at all the idea of those very morally dubious fellows at the helm, but is not like the Glazers are charity workers either.
That was intense and very well explained.
That was a good video but hated the conclusion that we can’t get rid of the Glazers because in fact we are too big to sell just killed my soul a little bit.
Recently utd's debt increased and if it keeps increasing with unsustainable revenues due to lack of success, there is a possibility that they could sell
Sadly they won't. overall manchester united are still a profitable club and at the moment everyone is losing money. Until something big happens the leeches are going to stay sucking the club dry
I'm worried that Man Utd might end up like Portsmouth, which is a fate that no club should suffer.
Agent P united are much bigger than Pompey it wouldn’t happen🤣
@@3dsaulgoodman43 more like Leeds or Mike Ashley's Newcastle.
@@joikabolle1806 maybe so?
But there a generation of kids coming through now who don't associate man utd with success,
Kids born after 2012.
Bet the Glazers regret not selling the club now and taking the £4bn given how the economy has gone to shit and United's value has almost halfed.
Youre right, the value did almost half, however as the economy recovers after the economic downturn, almost all companies that survive will actually see upturn in the long run, this should include Man Utd
Thats the difference between poor people and rich. poor people have to sell to meet responsibilities, rich can hold on for better times. No way they are gonna sell with OTT on the way. They can continue to get their dividends and still sell for 4+BN in a year or two if they want to. If they saw United as a stock to sell for profit, they would have sold at 4.
you're thinking about savings, not wealth
@@ryanedwards805 Actually theres a reasonable amount of evidence that says the market will stabilise after 6 months of things being back to normal with the trend averaging out to be upward overall.
So you can't spell 'halved' but also talk down to some billionaire businessman? Seems legit...
"..., while their investment in the local area has cemented their bond with city fans and earn them positive headlines."
The Emptyhad: am i joke to you?
dude the joke is dead, clearly Man U havent won anything other than the europa. They just rely on the old success story they had in their golden ages and SAF's legacy.
Awesome 5 yeah, but doesnt change that city doesnt have fans 🤷🏼♂️
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
City average about 98% capacity.... Just man United fans clutching at anything to help them forget about their failure of a club 😛
When I was visited Manchester, interestingly locals tends to support City rather than United, I'm not sure, but I think old trafford is packed with tourist.
City became so big because the investment came at a time when oil prices were going up AND most clubs didn't have the financial power they do now. Newcastle competing for top four, maybe. Them getting to the level city or even psg got because of the investment is unlikely
Well Newcastle are getting tooken over by Saudi who are far richer than the other country’s buying those other clubs
Newcastle are a proper club though. They don't need as much investment.
@@54356776 Oh no they do. Bruh they're gonna get relegated.
They can sell it tomorrow by putting all their shares on the stock market. People would buy instantly. Manchester United was a public company with thousands of shareholders before the Glazers. We don't actually need a rich owner because we generate enough money ourselves, but that money is currently being drained by Debt incurred by Glazers etc. What needs to happen is they sell their stake to public and funds in controlled manner.
what about a video about good clubs across various leagues (not just in the big 5 leagues) that could be a good purchase for any interested investor?
and the future investments needed in the club that was bought?
by the way i love this channel. always looking for the next one no matter the subject.
compliments from portugal!
That would be interesting
Worth remembering that for many of the acquisitions of football clubs over the mast few years making money was absolutely a secondary concern. The Saudis almost certainly dont give a shit if they make any money from Newcastle. It's a PR / marketing exercise first and foremost. The amount of money required to buy Man Utd doesnt really make that nearly as attractive.
Also worth noting Man Utd is already a worldwide brand, Newcastle isn't to nearly the same degree. If I'm running a PR exercise I want all the attention on me, not on the existing value of what I already bought.
Dinamo Bucharest, team with history and fans in Romania was sold by the old owner with 1 RON = 0.24 USD. A spanish "businessman" bought it and the team now is closer to bankruptcy. Fans are the only hope of the club, luckily they didn't sold their actions so now fans are the only income of the club. DINAMO BUCHAREST needs more than anything a new wealthy owner, it's one of the few clubs with tradition left in Romania 🇷🇴 and looks like not for long... 😥
Thanks Tifo now I’m in tears
I would say yes. It would take an incredible amount of money to buy the club, at least 5b. Utd generate a lot of revenue but with that amount of investment you’re not going to generate a lot of profit. They’re pretty much topped out the amount of revenue the club can generate. There’s really no growth possible. NUFC on the other hand takes a far less investment and has a lot of potential growth.
I lost it when I saw "Elon Musk?" Musk would run our club into the ground for sure
Elon Musk is a visionary as opposed to a leech and would probably sack ed woodward and give us a footballing director
@David Clinging I don't know, some of what his companies have delivered is really impressive. The man himself, though, is more than a bit of a dick.
@@TheBadmanguy
His "vision" is sending crap into space and electric cars that are prohibitively expensive and crap. He seems like a decent person but he's not the Messiah.
Lmaoo A.I would replace Man Utd players
He would take them to Mars
4:30 the capacity has been or will be reduced to around 73,000 as far I know.
They need to put a lot more of disability seats & access to comply to Accesible Stadia guideline.
Not just Old Trafford, all English stadia have to adhere to this guideline and saw their capacity reduced slightly (except for a few like the Spurs stadium)
Surely it's a good thing to allow more disabled fans to come and be at the game?
Newcastle most CERTAINLY does not lack a large international airport.
Pretty disappointing on such a basic fact, Tifo is usually pretty good with stuff. You do have some howlers though, highlighted all he more starkly because of the usual good quality.
Who's watching today after the storming of old Trafford?
They should consider ac milan
Give it a couple more years the price will go down.
LMAO
Rebuilding the stadium isn't a good idea bcoz it cherishes a lot of good memories
But eventually you'll make new memories, I think in the next 10 years a lot of stadiums will significantly change and 100k stadiums will be common
No need to rebuild. Just refurbish.
It needs to be Renovated
Still not convinced about why Newcastle tho - why not Leeds or Villa, airports and closer to London. Newcastle could be a ruse to force the Glazers into selling.
Refurbishment of old Trafford is extremely difficult. One the south side there are a lot of houses so Utd can’t really renovate the south side without paying off the residents of these houses. And a complete rebuild is definitely not an option, the fans will not be happy with that.
Kinda a wrong read. The cost to 8mproving United is priced in. Hence no interest at 4 billion. Blazers continue to damage the brand with bad football and no silverware and it will depreciate
I would like buy Manchester United but I don’t even have 100€ 😞
That's more than what the club is worth 😂
@@kkkirytenahtss1 Damn bro, you got the whole squad laughing.
Why have you gotta ruin our hopes
“The Athletic- Sports stories you won’t find anywhere else” guessing this video doesn’t count then
Tifo is part of The Athletic.
What do you guys think about the EPL preparation for June resumption?
Shouldn’t happen, they have more fans which will get more cases. League 1 and 2 has finished. We aren’t getting any income now.
Meh
oh noes too bad still gonna happen
it will happen 100%.
Let's do it
Basically United need a Lawerence Stroll type figure
You mean a guy who invests in/buys the club for the sole purpose of getting his son onto a premier league team?
Newcastle doesn't have a large international airport apart from Newcastle international airport located 10 minutes north of the city
Newcastle international is one of the biggest ones in the UK though outside London
@@sammcivor1885 I know this was just pointing out the error in this blokes video
For Manchester United to be more viable as a money making club with investment potential, they need to start consistently performing plus they need to let a manager actually implement their style of play instead of just firing when the manager doesn’t perform to their standards. Look at Wolves or Sheffield United for example, they don’t have the spending power of the Top 4 but they’re still pushing for European Football (Europa League) because their management structure has been allowed to adapt the teams playing style to complement their management style and therefore get fairly consistent results.
The script for this video was perfectly written man. Big one
I ain't a man United fan but it saddens me to see such a big with rich history spiral out of control from leeches running the club like a company
@Vernon Francis Gallagher bit extreme but ok
Great video, :) a definition of OTT wouldn’t go amiss,
I dont understand why they dont just create the best academy in the world?.
Step 1: Glazers must be convinced to stash away 50 Million Pounds to buy youth players of other countries (Age 16-17 if you can work around the working papers issue then Age 15 as well)
Step 2: Proceed to purchase the best scouts in multiple countries and start slowly buying young players out of that 50 Million pot
Step 3: Have those players PLAY AT MANCHESTER UNITED on the youth team until they are age 18. THEN and only then do you loan them to a smaller English club
This will ensure Manchester United can not only craft the player to their liking through the most crucial stages of development as a teenager to either eventually join the First Team or to craft them in a way that will make them the most profit (aka if you know Barcelona likes your youth player, maybe you train that player for the season prior to transferring to fit Barca’s system to ensure the transfer goes even more smoothly. If they’re old enough maybe in that case loan them to a small Spanish team before selling to Barcelona.) whichever they decide to use this method for. I feel like this is something that clubs like Ajax and Borussia Dortmund are known for but those clubs dont have anywhere near the reach or the resources of Manchester United. Plus this method wouldnt even have anything to do with the First Team budget whatsoever as this is in theory a completely separate organization with goals of their own that also happen to help the club (Think La Masia). Want to get back on top? Start building from the bottom.
Mate creating the best academy isn't easy and isn't about splashing cash. The best academies in the world are ajax, Borussia Dortmund and Monaco who don't splash cash
Anyone here after McGregor tweeted he’s interested in buying the club?
Yh he ain’t rich enough 😂
He cannot afford to make one transfer, nvm buying Man Utd.
Newcastle has a large airport and with frequent flights from Saudi royals if you look at flight logs over the years.
“Newcastle lacks a large international airport” ... apart from Newcastle International Airport. Either uncharacteristically poorly researched in this area or Tifo doesn’t consider it large. It’s not Schiphol but you can fly all over the world from it so I’m not sure what the point is if it’s the latter. Good videos aside from this though 👌🏻
Yeah pif bought newcastle for £300 million but for that deal to go though they payed being sport £1 billion in compensation for illegally streaming games. So thay have spent alot more than people realise to buy newcastle United
The fact is the glazers haven’t invested anything in to our club, they’ve taken over 1 billion pounds from us, they see it as their bank🤦🏻
Good for them. Pure business
I hate the glazers so much. They don’t care about our club and they don’t care if it goes to ruin. All they care about is money. We need to get rid of them, they have destroyed our beloved club.
It's very difficult to sell a club like MUFC. There aren't many interested people that can afford to buy us.
Do a next video why Tottenham Hotspur Fans hate Levy and Enic. We would love to know why
And there was me hoping for some good news.... Stuck with the Glazers 😔
I was hoping the Glazers would've sold the club once Malcolm popped his clogs, due to the emotional stress of their father's death getting in the way. Sadly not the case. 😒
Day 13 of asking Tifo to make a vid on the 1991/92 Leeds side that won the league only 2 seasons after being promoted from an 8-year spell in the 2nd tier. This triumph is so far removed from the Revie era that I think it'd make for a really interesting analysis
patience my friend
I still dont know how this channel isnt on 1 mil subs yet!!! Baffles me 👀
Regarding Newcastle. Maybe they really did their research into how English people see English football. I'd say Newcastle United is a well liked club. Kinda like the opposite to teams like Leeds, West Ham, Chelsea and Millwall.
100%. Investors aren't stupid, they have the best advisers possible.
I wish I could be the "JOKER" of the PERSONA 5 game, entered the persona palace of the Glazer Shadow, steal the treasure and finally in the real world, Glazers would confess their sins and give up the ownership of Man Utd.
Unless you get an insane offer i don’t see why anyone would ever sell the cash cow that is Manchester United
Also as you say United aren’t an investment with enough upside to make it worth the price it would cost
Cash cow? Another bad season and half of the plastics will he gone
The Glazers owning Manchester United are up there with the worst things to ever happen in English football.
Agreed
Same situation as ACMilan.
No one will spend over 700 millions for a club that currently doesn't worth even a half of that price.
Although Ed Woodward is slated by the Manchester United community, he;s done a hell of a job making sure United are economically secure. As soon as he relinquishes control of the football side of the club whilst he works on brand deals, we'll see United continue to improve.
If he really wanted to see the football side of the club improve he should have hired a director of football by now
That's very true, but the problem is Ed has completely rebuffed the idea of hiring a Football Director and continues to have the final say. Woodward is not a football guy and never will be, so unless he understands this and appoints a guy who takes decision from footballing perspective, United are not likely to challenge for the title anytime soon
Thanks
Manchester United is listed on the New York Stock Exchange, which means anyone who wants to buy it can freely do so. The problem is that you can only buy Class A shares which have low voting rights, so even if someone bought every single Man Utd share they'd only have 3% of the voting rights, which means you have no control over the club. The Glazers family meanwhile owns all the Class B shares, which together has 97% of the voting rights which means complete control over the club.
Unpopular opinion: Manchester United is a listed company and is valued at USD 2.7 billion today (when the markets are so down).. Now full ownership usually comes with a 25% premium, so USD 4bn is a fair price demand from Glazers. You can spend a lot and may buy players, but from where will fans come. Look at City, winning/challenging top 2 for the last 10 years, still the stadium is empty. MU deserves a premium, because you start with a huge fan base and it's easy to get players, than to get to say Newcastle United..
Who else is here after Chelsea is now the most expensive sports team to be sold?
Buy Newcastle and turn them into Ajax/Dortmund sensible spending and aim to attract the best young talent globally. United offered big contracts to keep up with PSG and city and ended up with overpaid mid table average players. You need the right coaches, manager, sporting director and scouts. I think LVG is the right guy, really good coach and if he is backed with money and given time to develop kids, you will see attractive football and none of the pressure to win the league in 3 years, you couldn't do it with team like NU but give him 3-5 years and he will lay great foundation for the future.
i wish they buy a spanish club and break the Real vs barcelona monopoly in la liga title
The joke is the less the Glazers invest in renovations, the women's team and youth development the more it will cost a new owner making them less likely to want to buy.
Good points! I guess we're stuck with the Glazers for a while then.
Why didn't MBS buy Chelsea? Roman has been trying to sell it for a while, it's in London, wouldn't be as expensive as united... and still miles better than newcastle. Maybe a video on that? Cheers guys, love the content!
Mate those assets have tripled in value but City’s owners have invested billions in to Manchester City, billions that should have been invested into UAE citizens and the workers that they exploit.
I saw another video which says Utd traning complex is also outdated, being a money machine all these years idk how the owners let that happen while the owners of chelsea and city were build a new academy and training grounds soon after their purchases.
Newcastle has an international airport
One of the things that makes me happy about Argentina's football it's the fact that a club being buy by a private investor it's illegal and the club owners are their supporters who vote who is going to be the chairman. Of course there are investors or bussinesmen who take over and try to aproach the club as a bussines enterprise, like Macri in Boca, TInelli in San Lorenzo or the sad case of my club Talleres with Fassi one of the owners of the Pachuca Group trying to use the club as a part of their multinational franchise...but we can still vote to sack him out haha! Hope it still this way forever.
In fact, Newell's Old Boys, one of the giants of Rosario has a great story of their supporters sacking Eduardo Lopez a chairman who was in charge since 1994 to 2008 who abort elections and use the ultras in a mafia way to stay in power that long and put the club in an economic and structural crisis. I remember Marcelo Bielsa, Gerardo Martino, Heinze among others supporting the fight of the supporters to bring back democratic elections in the club, it was quite emotional.
As a Manchester United fan, this just makes me sad.. If this is the case as stated in the video, United are on the verge of becoming a mid-level club if they don’t win anything major in the next 2-3 years..
Also, Old Trafford getting Old has been a lot of concern, but what’s sad is that Glazers won’t bother to spend money on rebuilding the stadium.. Already stadiums like Emirates and The Tottenham Hotspur Stadium looks so awesome and has all the 21st century amenities..
Vinod Naidu I hope your saying you was to freshen up on old Trafford and not replace it like them two clubs?
Alex Wallhead No way I want this drought to continue and become just a historic club.. But given the cheapfuck nature of Glazers and FFP rules prohibiting owners to flush in their own money, the only way United can get these things done and still be a WC club is to win major trophies in next 3 years..
We still have 800M debt to settle as well
So basically we're stuck with the glazers
It’s at the point now when I don’t even want to think about them owning another club tbh
We do have an international airport in Newcastle!! We also have a brilliant stadium smack bang in the middle of the bustling vibrant city. A city that lives and breathes one football club with a catchment area stretching from Durham in the south to Carlisle in the west to Berwick in the north. Huge untapped potential. Let’s not forget nearly winning the premier league twice in the 90s and also nearly winning the games cup 2 years running in the 90s. Dont underestimate newcastle my friend.
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Can you make a video of worst owners and best owners of football clubs
When the Glazers bought the club in 2003, we still managed 10 years of success. From what i've read, they've been pretty hands off. I prefer owners to be hands off. Do we really want to see the owner making direct decisions in transfers?
That's even worse. I have a theory that the glazers left the club to a board of former bankers and these guys are loving the power the they hold and don't want anyone coming in to change that so they employ former players who can pretend to be making decisions like Fletcher and also being someone who fans liked. Fletcher is so bored he's joined the coaching staff and sits next to Ralf. We're doomed.
The glazers simply are about how much Manchester United makes and how much they can take from the club. Remember it's their father who bought the club. United is just one of their assets nothing special to them.
It was 2005 and we had 'success' *because* of Sir Alex. Not sure how you don't know that.
One could buy the 10%outstanding shares. Then the debt, then work on some of the younger smaller family share holders. But would it really be worth it.?
Newcastle and Leeds are sleeping giants of English football, if Chelsea or Man City can reach the European heights there is no reason to doubt that oil money can’t propel the two other clubs in question.
Implying a Saudi royal would care about how much it would cost to buy/run the club. The reason arab money is used in these projects is sportswashing - improve the image of the area using the support that sports teams get. City/PSG owner's haven't made anything off buying these clubs, especially considering all the sponsorships they've recieved are also owned by the owners and is basically financial doping, but they have been successful in improving their image.
Why are owners demonized for running their club at a profit? A profit margin of 30% is pretty high admittedly, but not unheard of.
well invest in stadium, can be postponed till c-19 done..maybe in decade?
Okay, before you talk about FS of a company, you need to have sound knowledge on that. People talking here about debt of 430m which in reality is net debt. Our debt has been same since 2008 which is over half a million. Nearly all of the world economies run on debt. As long as there is a cadh flow you can always pay off debt. Despite our on pitch struggles, our FS are always strong managing record revenues & profits last financial year. My only opposition is that success in the commercial front is not translated in the football side bcoz of our hierarchy.
This just shows how incompetent this club is. They haven't even come close to winning the Premier League or the Champions League while outspending everyone
Just goes to show you the people at the top of the food don't know shit about football. Forget City, imagine cashing out 200mil for a troublesum wuss to win you one single trophy and he still can't do it. Same money could've bought several other monstrous ballers.
I'm new to watching soccer and I was wonder whyy the person in the video is so focused about the fans? The fans are gonna buy tickets/club t-shirts no matter what. In American football the happiness of a fan is rarely a concern as the team owners know they are gonna make money regardless. Thank you.
Neil :} a lot of united fans have stopped buying authentic united merchandise and started buying green and gold scarves and jerseys
@@NeilSharks many fans have realized that the owners are only in it for the money. Of course that's obvious, it is a business, but they do not put fans first
Why change stadium? looks nice and has huge legacy
Manchester could be sold easily but the owners are not going to sell cause they are making money.
What about Sheffield Utd. They have an Saudi Co Owner or am I wrong here?
Yes, they're owned by a Saudi prince.
@@theobuniel9643 y are they not rich?
I don't think so. In a world where a single player can cost a quarter of a billion dollars, euros, or even pounds there's no reason spending tens of billions on a club is not only possible, but a good investment.
United need to expand to 90,000 they have easily the demand and it’s not old fashioned it’s a classic ground
Must say, although Tifo cover all clubs. Man United does look like a favourite among the content creators.
they're doing better than ever, long may it continue.