The secret of Alexis Lebrun - his special table tennis grip

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  • The secret of Alexis Lebrun - his special table tennis grip!
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  • @tcveatch
    @tcveatch ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Compare his grip with Kong Linghui. Deep grip, middle finger half-loose, small finger halfway up the handle, naturally a strongly backhand-favoring grip but by adjusting knuckles without regripping (merely straightening the first row of knuckles) the blade angle changes to be a medium forehand-favoring grip. This unique grip was the secret to Kong Linghui’s extremely balanced style and appears in some of what you have shown here. Credit Kong, I think.
    The two finger grip seen sometimes (for Alexis’ service) has history going back to the 1920’s world champion Victor Barna, in whose name paddles were sold in the 1940’s in the US, one of which my father had; these were shakehand hard bat paddles but with a short handle, appropriate for a deep grip with two fingers on the rubber.
    So when people tell you don’t use two fingers on the blade, or don’t use a deep grip, understand that advantages can be found with many ideas including perhaps even your own. At the same time the canon is very strong in table tennis, so listen to your coach, too.

  • @bakervinci163
    @bakervinci163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    He’s a “French Waldner”. What a great addition to the greatest game on the planet.

    • @rogernguyen1273
      @rogernguyen1273 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      do not compare anybody with the great Waldner yet !

  • @TheZelluloid
    @TheZelluloid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Interesting note on the side: Timo Boll puts his index finger on the middle of the blade, when he receives with the forehand giving him a better angle for short balls.

    • @cyruss-wangg
      @cyruss-wangg ปีที่แล้ว

      When

    • @TheZelluloid
      @TheZelluloid ปีที่แล้ว

      Whenever he is receiving a side or top spin serve where he has to open the racket a lot.

  • @washnery
    @washnery 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    5:40 For those who don't know, this game was in Brazil, Brazil-France challenge, in May 2022.
    👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

  • @frenchping157
    @frenchping157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you for mentioning the channel 🙏

    • @pingsunday
      @pingsunday  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      thank you very much

  • @tokyo_tobi
    @tokyo_tobi ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video, thanks!
    Your comments are very important and helpful!

  • @bobmalack481
    @bobmalack481 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm a Felix fan and the reverse penhold grip. Hoping somebody is the next Wang Hao.

  • @borisboris5195
    @borisboris5195 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Am excited about him as a player and where he will be in years to come ... Unfortunately, ... I Don't speak French well enough to understand. Would English subtitles be an option Emrat?

  • @PongGod
    @PongGod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Just watched this whole video and I still don't understand exactly what's unique about his grip. Would be much more helpful to demonstrate it up close.

    • @aseq2
      @aseq2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same, it's not very special to me. His index finger may be a bit more towards the centre of the bat, but that's about it. Watch videos on his brother Felix to see a more unique grip!

    • @PongGod
      @PongGod ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aseq2 Yes indeed. In fact I just learned about Felix from a video a week earlier and didn't realize until I clicked on this one that there are two of them. Very impressive what those young brothers are accomplishing already!

    • @agusbudiwijaya
      @agusbudiwijaya ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, me too..

  • @pauloyoshizaki2103
    @pauloyoshizaki2103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ALEXIS - LEBRUM - CHAMPION -
    FRANCE ; TOP : TENISTA - MESA !!! ;
    2022 ; PARABÉNS !!! .

  • @Nam13_13
    @Nam13_13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He is a new generation star player..

  • @z0uLess
    @z0uLess ปีที่แล้ว

    wouldnt it be best if you could play with a flat hand and a plate on each side of the hand?

  • @vinadamsllc
    @vinadamsllc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Inspiring

    • @pingsunday
      @pingsunday  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes. he is only 18 years old

  • @ttime9947
    @ttime9947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So in terms of grip the exact opposite of Truls Moregardh

  • @zoltanzoltan303
    @zoltanzoltan303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me i see like he change also on fh grip when he play forhand and he have time to change his finger is very up and bh he plays with bh grip.

  • @u47108
    @u47108 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:20 Timo Boll Alc ST

  • @Kolzahn
    @Kolzahn ปีที่แล้ว

    We need an Adam Bobrow vs Alexis Lebrun video

  • @ajtatosmano2
    @ajtatosmano2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    alexandre cassin has a very deep grip as well

  • @richart4753
    @richart4753 ปีที่แล้ว

    guess waldner did this too, to press the finger upwards on the rubber when he played fh...

  • @peper42
    @peper42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Je ne comprend pas tout à fait la différence des deux tenues de raquette. Pourriez vous ajouter des zoom et ralentis ?
    ------------
    I don't look really differences between usual and Alexis' grip. Can we have différents angle, zoom and slow motion? By by

  • @richdoza441
    @richdoza441 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Great Hasegawa from Japan also put his finger in the middle of the racket.

  • @matmat5996
    @matmat5996 ปีที่แล้ว

    isnt he using like pen one?

  • @SSSX-in3zk
    @SSSX-in3zk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Le point faible de ce genre de grip hormis la perte de puissance en cd, c’est la difficulté de démarrer des balles deux rebonds ou sur la table en cd, alors qu’avec une prise plus ouverte en cd, on peut démarrer des balles qui ne sortent pas de la talble.

  • @ALL-bi9wk
    @ALL-bi9wk ปีที่แล้ว

    He holds the racket exactly like Hugo.

  • @benkunsch9523
    @benkunsch9523 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alexis and felix now play with tibhar materials

  • @user-lq3mg9nm7g
    @user-lq3mg9nm7g ปีที่แล้ว

    Watch on his legs!!!

  • @ivanmonolaki8159
    @ivanmonolaki8159 ปีที่แล้ว

    А какой вес основания?

  • @DHUUSS
    @DHUUSS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool! But Grebnev, Katsman, Sidorenko does not reach at all)

    • @vladimirsidorenko9536
      @vladimirsidorenko9536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Grebnev beat him 6 months ago 😉

    • @DHUUSS
      @DHUUSS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vladimirsidorenko9536 Да вы вообще красавцы! Реально историю сделали). Я горд за то что такие пацаны в нашей сборной сейчас! Вы показали лучшие результаты за все время наст.тенниса в россии/союзе! Спасибо за то, что Ты есть, как бы стремно это не звучало! Я тополю только за вашу троицу! Удачи, добра и терпения!!!!

  • @shmiluy
    @shmiluy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    not very unusual grip, but with the way he holds the racket, his hit will be less powerful. Ma long has the most balanced grip.

    • @seeker3983
      @seeker3983 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nah ... he has one of the most explosive power in Europe. fast and powerful. not very stable tho.

  • @sachacarrel4775
    @sachacarrel4775 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those video are great but the rythme is soooo slow

  • @user-yy1yc2gw7h
    @user-yy1yc2gw7h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello coach!

  • @BladimirSalazar
    @BladimirSalazar ปีที่แล้ว

    Skip to 05:08

  • @wallfree
    @wallfree 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    After the era of plastic balls, rubbers have become heavier. A deep grip could be more natural for junior players who are weak in handling heavy equipment.

    • @pingsunday
      @pingsunday  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      interesting point

    • @Get-Rekt
      @Get-Rekt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very relatable
      I'm over 190cm tall and I never struggle with power, however, I find it difficult to recover fast - meaning that I really need to be good on both sides.
      I really need to test deeper grip, because from what I've heard, there is no disadvantage for people like me...
      Correct me if I'm wrong :))

    • @jiboo6850
      @jiboo6850 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      wrong. because most people keep playing Tenergys and other tensors made before the new rubbers "Pball ready" came out. heavier rubbers came on the market more to have something similar to chinese heavy rubbers like H3 and so on because it was a part of the market to get in for european brands. D09 D05, K1,2 and 3, Nitakky PK50, Joola Tango powersponge etc... and the new ABS ball is fantastic! i don't feel a damn difference between this ball and an old Nittaku 3*** cellulo. i still have some at home. rebound is so close, feel, weight, seemed ones of course. you can't tell the difference if i throw it in randomly during a game.

    • @blueheart9873
      @blueheart9873 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jiboo6850 That's lie. I have both at home and the difference is huge. The plastic ball is heavier, faster and is less sensitive to spin. Before I had a really good FH loop which had a different arc and much more spin and with the plastic ball it goes in a flat arc with less spin and it gets blocked super easy

    • @jiboo6850
      @jiboo6850 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@blueheart9873 lol you just have shit balls mate. mine are exactly the same in weight. 2.75g for the Nittaku cellulo 3*** and 2.74g for the ABS ball 3***. with a precision scale at 0.01g. they are barely harder and when i make them bounce at the same time on the table, they literally bounce for the same amount of time before it stops. many brands are shit. some are just fantastic. mine are made in the DHS manufacture. pros play with the same. do you really think that pros play with shit balls? dude... they play with the closest balls from cellulo. when you look at pros playing they still can spin a lot and make the opponent's racquet explode!! blocks out of the table because of spin. Xu Xin, Ma Long etc... didn't even change their FH rubbers to play with it. they still spin the ball hard.

  • @SSSX-in3zk
    @SSSX-in3zk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Backand grip, comme Lin Gao Yuan du coup!

    • @jiboo6850
      @jiboo6850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      pas du tout.

  • @lasierradiego
    @lasierradiego ปีที่แล้ว

    isn't he penholder?

    • @lasierradiego
      @lasierradiego ปีที่แล้ว

      @Referre Thanks, I thought it was the same person haha

  • @nhattrung7615
    @nhattrung7615 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kênh này của Việt Nam ạ

  • @boredhatchi5297
    @boredhatchi5297 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even if I will use that secret grip, that alone will not help me win games. This kid started early and with solid coaching from dad and mates. Apparently his grip is not the secret here.

  • @robertmartian
    @robertmartian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    special grip?! LOL, its not special, its what most of us do before we're trained to grip the bat more conventionally. the reason we're trained not to hold the bat like this is to have more continuity btwn fh and bh strokes. obviously hes a special talent, so he can make this grip work well and excel.

    • @jiboo6850
      @jiboo6850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Boll uses it.

  • @leecherlarry
    @leecherlarry ปีที่แล้ว

    😆

  • @user-zj8fq6zn2o
    @user-zj8fq6zn2o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't think it is special grip. I think he is tallented a lot.

    • @zoltanzoltan303
      @zoltanzoltan303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Talent is useless.

    • @user-zj8fq6zn2o
      @user-zj8fq6zn2o 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zoltanzoltan303 Do you mean that it is nessesary to add a lot of work to it?

    • @zoltanzoltan303
      @zoltanzoltan303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-zj8fq6zn2o if somebody dont work hard enough after a certain level the skills wont grow anymore.
      Ofcourse not useless. Its tactical+technical+mental+fizical+talent , serves and receive.
      Who have all of this one day will become a table tennis player if any of them missing its not working anymore.

    • @zoltanzoltan303
      @zoltanzoltan303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-zj8fq6zn2o smart/hard and have to know exactly how and what to train. Who dont have a good trainer from the beginning is lost. From the start need somebody who can teach and show what is table tennis the a few of player will find themself.
      They are the players the others who dont find themself they will be the avarage players.

    • @user-zj8fq6zn2o
      @user-zj8fq6zn2o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zoltanzoltan303 Everything you mention is yes. But it should better to say: tallent is not enough. Not it is useless. And more. Man's fate is curvy. I mean - you may havent such a good coach but all other aspects are in good value. There are a lot of different scenarios which lead to high level tennis. You khow.

  • @Get-Rekt
    @Get-Rekt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like the Lebrun brothers aren't fully OK mentally.
    I might be wrong but the way they overreact is kinda cringe.
    But that doesn't mean they aren frickin' great players :))
    Congrats!

    • @ttime9947
      @ttime9947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe some anger issues xD

    • @klaasparlevliet2952
      @klaasparlevliet2952 ปีที่แล้ว

      Overreacting...3 shouts in one shout at every point which Harimoto started a trend and which has become more common and even promoted by coaches etc...please let the ittf ban this by stronger rules...2 big shouts allowed every game for instance...so that the referee can say " Mister Harimoto has no shouts remaining"😅

    • @paulbismuth10
      @paulbismuth10 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@klaasparlevliet2952 i feel like Harimoto shouts less nowadays but maybe it's when he is not dominant in a match.

  • @libertariannihilist3077
    @libertariannihilist3077 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This lebrun is so strange...

  • @jiboo6850
    @jiboo6850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    he uses the same grip than Boll. nothing special.

  • @Haiman9
    @Haiman9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fan Zendong will transfrom this fancy grip to a shitty grip.

  • @DavidGottschalk
    @DavidGottschalk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Has not a real special grip like truls for example. I disagree . Just a non content video.

  • @TTMRussia
    @TTMRussia 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Бред сивой лошади.