@thIDthIRreenactor the haversack was used in combat whilst tornisters for the majority of the time weren't. The German equivalent of a haversack is the breadbag which was attached to the belt and could carry both mess kit and canteen
Outstanding! I picked up a tornister pack late last year to add to my collection, but need to find some straps, wool blanket and zeltbahn to go with it. Thank you for sharing this. :)
Very nice! I need to get round to doing this on newest tornister which is 1943 dated and is 100% complete with the mess tin pouch etc. Really helpful video once again!
I find the egg and olive oil mixture a strange thing. Doesn't it start to reek when the stuff starts to degrade? In addition just how did the average soldier treat the fur? I'm sure it was next to impossible in the field but was this egg and oil mixture a standard fix or just washed with soap and water?
The soldier rarely would have gotten access to his tornister. It was always for the majority of the time located in the HQ. More commonly seen in parades or when soldiers are moving to the front line. He wouldn't have ever treated the fur he would have likely just got a brush and brushed it if required. The leather was more important to worry about
I was lucky enough to to find a tornister at my local antique mall. Fortunately the leather is all I relatively good condition and there are no major stains or flaws in the cloth. The only issue I have is that the fur had begun to fall out in some small tufts which were included with it. I was wondering if there’s any way to reapply the fur to the bag. I do not plan on using it for reenacting but I wish to preserve it and display it in the future. If you know of any magic techniques that could help they would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks a lot for this video as I have 2 Tornisters (M95 and M34) and this will help a lot whilst I'm restoring them at the moment, especially what you suggest about how to restore the fur as my M34 is starting to lose some of its fur. Both of mine are complete minus the mess tin pouch. My M34 was a barn find and at the end of the video where you are attaching the straps you just leave the raw hide ends of the pieces and I was wondering why as when mine when mine came completely untouched form what I could gather (due to there still being bits of hay in it) had the raw hide tucked into the open part of the locking pin thing once locked in place (sorry if this is hard to understand as its hard to explain without being in person). Would you suggest I keep doing this after removing them to give the pins extra strength or could it weaken the raw hide? Do you have any tips on restoring hard and/or cracked leather apart from using that "ka-cao-line" stuff?
@@ww2historyandreenacting I do US so not alot of leather buy I usually just wash my canvas items in hot water and put degreaser on it and wash it like that it works and it softens it also I heard that baby wipes work too
Nice video. I just got a one from a mans father, that used it as school bag in a short period after the war. Still in fine condition, but need some leather treatments. The masking tape was a great tip before i begin restoration :)
The straps are 26 cm long measured from the very base and have 9 holes each, made at an interval of 1.9 cm in between. If you want I could send you some photos via email.
i have a 1937 dated tornister with a "RADBAF" marking and a label with the soldiers name sewed on it, it's all clearly readable, is it possible to track down some informations on the soldier ?
Can the leather be restored using Dubbin? It seems to be the only easily available product in AUS and I have a couple of tornisters that need attention.
I've recently picked up a Tornister, dated 1939. Marked A.Fischer Berlin C.2 on the leather section between the shoulder strap lock bolts. Other than that there are no other marks or stamps in it anywhere like on yours, there are stamps on the hooks at the bottom of the pack, with a tree like symbol with an 'S' and 'C' either side of it, and below that is an 'Al Mg St (or Sl)' can't really make it out, Do you reckon it is an Original or reproduction? Or an oddity? I can also see evidence of where some loops have been removed, should I re-add them or leave them be? Last but not least, do the Tornisters actually require a wooden frame in them? Sorry for the questions, but I am trying to learn as much as possible on it.
LugerNut for what it’s worth. I have an original Fallschirmjäger rucksack dated 1940 that I am restoring. It is about 4 or 5 times as large as the tornister made mostly of canvas with la lot of small leather loops, straps, and leather binding on the edges. No fur. I am replacing any missing or damaged pieces. The rest of it I am restoring like you saw in this video. Good luck.
They had standard issue long underwear..., apart from that only layers for during the day like the thick insulated pants, bigger pants for over the hose, and anything they would've brought from home to keep warm. For duty it's mostly layers of stuff besides underwear, like the issued sweater.
Harbard No. Do not use any of that Nazi bullshit. It is a very different thing to have interest in German WW2 history, and collecting, and very different thing to actually be agreeing with their ideology. More importantly, it is extremely insulting to Germans and to collectors or reenactors to suggest they’d actually enjoy hearing or respect the Nazi ideology. It is really common sense. We cannot assume all Germans, all german we2 soldiers actually agreed with their command, or their rulers. Especially today, in 2009 when most Germans are rejecting and are less sympathetic to their side in WW2.
I want to add that I am not suggesting to presume what the video creator actually believes. Maybe he is a Nazi sympathizer. But what I wrote earlier about why German military songs should not be used applies to anybody.
DDR history buff You are a hypocrite and a liar. First of all I didn’t say that those people who listen to nazi songs are Nazis. And I did tell someone how to live their life. And you are a hypocrite because your reply itself is telling someone how to live their life by telling me not to. As far as Nazi ideology, it directly affects those around the Nazi believer since this ideology’s focus is on how one is to treat and interact with others. Therefore it is not wrong to tell anyone about my view of it. And one final thing. By telling anyone how to live their life life and not tell others to you are suggesting moral relativism, as if one philosophy or ideology can’t be wrong or evil, and others good. Some things and actions in the world are on the side of evil on the scale of morality. The only thing is we don’t always know to what extent compared to different world views.
Love the fact that you are not afraid of wearing this hat in public. The world is waking up for the Truth. Could never imagine that guy tried to save us from them.
Love that you change into the drill outfit...nice touch! keep it up my scandinavian brother.
Thank you my friend, glad you liked it! :) :) :)
@@ww2historyandreenacting isnt a tornister a german version of a US haversack I dont do german but they seen similar
@thIDthIRreenactor the haversack was used in combat whilst tornisters for the majority of the time weren't. The German equivalent of a haversack is the breadbag which was attached to the belt and could carry both mess kit and canteen
Correct 👍😊
Outstanding! I picked up a tornister pack late last year to add to my collection, but need to find some straps, wool blanket and zeltbahn to go with it.
Thank you for sharing this. :)
Thank you, and good luck on finding the additional items Tim! :) :)
Fantastic video!!I HAVE RESTORED MY M34 TORNISTER AND MY RAD-TORNISTER OF 1938!CONGRATULATIONS!A greeting from SPAIN.
Very nice! I need to get round to doing this on newest tornister which is 1943 dated and is 100% complete with the mess tin pouch etc. Really helpful video once again!
Thank you, I am glad you find my videos helpful :)
I find the egg and olive oil mixture a strange thing. Doesn't it start to reek when the stuff starts to degrade? In addition just how did the average soldier treat the fur? I'm sure it was next to impossible in the field but was this egg and oil mixture a standard fix or just washed with soap and water?
The soldier rarely would have gotten access to his tornister. It was always for the majority of the time located in the HQ. More commonly seen in parades or when soldiers are moving to the front line. He wouldn't have ever treated the fur he would have likely just got a brush and brushed it if required. The leather was more important to worry about
I was lucky enough to to find a tornister at my local antique mall. Fortunately the leather is all I relatively good condition and there are no major stains or flaws in the cloth. The only issue I have is that the fur had begun to fall out in some small tufts which were included with it. I was wondering if there’s any way to reapply the fur to the bag. I do not plan on using it for reenacting but I wish to preserve it and display it in the future. If you know of any magic techniques that could help they would be greatly appreciated.
I am in the same situation, Herr Krebs.
Very informative! This is great help to restore one of my own.
Thank you, glad to help :)
Hi, good video. What is the name of the leather conditioner you´re using?
Thank you!
I used Ko-Cho-Line Leather Dressing :)
Thanks a lot for this video as I have 2 Tornisters (M95 and M34) and this will help a lot whilst I'm restoring them at the moment, especially what you suggest about how to restore the fur as my M34 is starting to lose some of its fur. Both of mine are complete minus the mess tin pouch. My M34 was a barn find and at the end of the video where you are attaching the straps you just leave the raw hide ends of the pieces and I was wondering why as when mine when mine came completely untouched form what I could gather (due to there still being bits of hay in it) had the raw hide tucked into the open part of the locking pin thing once locked in place (sorry if this is hard to understand as its hard to explain without being in person). Would you suggest I keep doing this after removing them to give the pins extra strength or could it weaken the raw hide? Do you have any tips on restoring hard and/or cracked leather apart from using that "ka-cao-line" stuff?
Where can you find them?
Got a civilian tornister from 1939 definitely gonna do that fell procedure
Please tell me where you bought these belts. Thank you
I would like to know what the diverences are between diverent tornisters.
Just picked one up wonder why no shoulder straps and no inner bag like yours?
Hey really nice video! What would you do to clean off the canvas parts? Thank you!
Thanks! :)
Hmm, Im not sure... will have to do some research on that
@@ww2historyandreenacting I do US so not alot of leather buy I usually just wash my canvas items in hot water and put degreaser on it and wash it like that it works and it softens it also I heard that baby wipes work too
I can confirm that this is a great product that I used on my tornister and other leather items.
Nice video. I just got a one from a mans father, that used it as school bag in a short period after the war. Still in fine condition, but need some leather treatments. The masking tape was a great tip before i begin restoration :)
Can i replace the furry if there is missing alot?
Very interesting technique used on the fur! Can you explain why it restores the fur?
Did they ever make tornisters that attached to y-straps?
Yes :)
WWII History & Reenacting what year did they start making them fit to y-straps and where could I find them online. Thanks for the response. :)
How long are the two leather strips used for closure Tornister? On my Tornister these two are missing. I need to replace them. Thanks for help.
The straps are 26 cm long measured from the very base and have 9 holes each, made at an interval of 1.9 cm in between. If you want I could send you some photos via email.
I swear by obenauf's heavy duty lp that I use for my Wildland firefighting boots. You might like it as well.
Ich habe bei meinen Fellaufsatz noch etwas Nerzöl zugegeben ,hat hervorragend geklappt.
I like theese videos. Pls make more restoration videos. :)
Thank you! Will do! :)
Can I use this leather dressing on my boots to darken them and moisturize the leather
What model is the far right furless tornister from the thumbnail?
Hitleryouth, very common
Where would you recommend buying an original tornister.
How do you wear a tornister?
Nice job again m8
Thanks! :)
How tall we talking?
Is it normal if the air is a bit sticky?
Would ko cho line darken leather?
i have a 1937 dated tornister with a "RADBAF" marking and a label with the soldiers name sewed on it, it's all clearly readable, is it possible to track down some informations on the soldier ?
Sadly not but RADBAF usually means the Reichs Arbeits Dienst or The German Labour Service
Can the leather be restored using Dubbin? It seems to be the only easily available product in AUS and I have a couple of tornisters that need attention.
Dubbing only waterproofs leather
Wow, were do you get tornisters from I've been looking for a while nice video as always
You can find them everywhere - just google WWII Tornister for sale :)
Thank you! This helps a lot!
Glad to help! :)
I've recently picked up a Tornister, dated 1939. Marked A.Fischer Berlin C.2 on the leather section between the shoulder strap lock bolts. Other than that there are no other marks or stamps in it anywhere like on yours, there are stamps on the hooks at the bottom of the pack, with a tree like symbol with an 'S' and 'C' either side of it, and below that is an 'Al Mg St (or Sl)' can't really make it out, Do you reckon it is an Original or reproduction? Or an oddity?
I can also see evidence of where some loops have been removed, should I re-add them or leave them be?
Last but not least, do the Tornisters actually require a wooden frame in them?
Sorry for the questions, but I am trying to learn as much as possible on it.
LugerNut for what it’s worth. I have an original Fallschirmjäger rucksack dated 1940 that I am restoring. It is about 4 or 5 times as large as the tornister made mostly of canvas with la lot of small leather loops, straps, and leather binding on the edges. No fur.
I am replacing any missing or damaged pieces. The rest of it I am restoring like you saw in this video. Good luck.
Song?
How do you say Tornister in German?
Tornister is German but usually we call them Affe as it means Monkey because it looks like a monkey is on your back with the fut 😂
Great video! where you come from?
Thank you! I`m from Norway :)
Nice vid, if you ever get a go-pro, or camera you can attach to your head, pls do a first person of a reenactment.
Here is a random weird question. Did the German military get issued some kind of military, or premium quality underwear?
They had standard issue long underwear..., apart from that only layers for during the day like the thick insulated pants, bigger pants for over the hose, and anything they would've brought from home to keep warm. For duty it's mostly layers of stuff besides underwear, like the issued sweater.
Amazing
Thank you! :)
Very Nice...
Thanks! :)
lanoline?
Your grandfather was an electrician i think because of a lot of lightning symbols ;)
@@КешаКотов-и5и SS are murderers
Dang man you got so much😂 I wish I had a tornister
Tornisters are one of my favorite ww2 items 😂😇
@@ww2historyandreenacting No way that’s really cool I’ve always thought they look awesome
@@justusminor1589 there is just something about them 😎😊
@@ww2historyandreenacting I know right how the German army had the old fashioned stuff but modern at the same time.😊😁
Albumen and olive oil , very helpful! Thx!
Deutsche Qualität!
superbe vidéo :-)
Thank you! :)
super
Thank you! :)
please remove the stock youtube music. other than that thank you!! amazing
On s'est trompé d'ennemis, pdt la dernière guerre mondiale ! 8H
best underchaarsfure i have a waffen ss liebstandarte sturmman uniform but i dont know wat kind of exipmment the use sorry fore mi bad engliche
Is this WWII history or a cooking show?
Video Wie eine große Wette werde ich mich freuen, wenn Sie jede Woche ein neues Video einen Blick auf mein Kanal nehmen.
Danke! :)
Herzlichen Dank. Ich freue mich auf .
Класні сумки, подари одну Максіму, йому сумно))
Instead of that happy little melody in the speed-up parts of the video, use Wehrmacht songs.
I know, but there are copyright issues with these songs unfortunately....
Harbard No. Do not use any of that Nazi bullshit. It is a very different thing to have interest in German WW2 history, and collecting, and very different thing to actually be agreeing with their ideology. More importantly, it is extremely insulting to Germans and to collectors or reenactors to suggest they’d actually enjoy hearing or respect the Nazi ideology. It is really common sense. We cannot assume all Germans, all german we2 soldiers actually agreed with their command, or their rulers. Especially today, in 2009 when most Germans are rejecting and are less sympathetic to their side in WW2.
I want to add that I am not suggesting to presume what the video creator actually believes. Maybe he is a Nazi sympathizer. But what I wrote earlier about why German military songs should not be used applies to anybody.
StopFear just because someone listens to ww2 songs doesn't make them a nazi smh, instead of telling people how to live their life go live your own.
DDR history buff You are a hypocrite and a liar. First of all I didn’t say that those people who listen to nazi songs are Nazis. And I did tell someone how to live their life. And you are a hypocrite because your reply itself is telling someone how to live their life by telling me not to. As far as Nazi ideology, it directly affects those around the Nazi believer since this ideology’s focus is on how one is to treat and interact with others. Therefore it is not wrong to tell anyone about my view of it.
And one final thing. By telling anyone how to live their life life and not tell others to you are suggesting moral relativism, as if one philosophy or ideology can’t be wrong or evil, and others good. Some things and actions in the world are on the side of evil on the scale of morality. The only thing is we don’t always know to what extent compared to different world views.
Хендихох
Love the fact that you are not afraid of wearing this hat in public. The world is waking up for the Truth. Could never imagine that guy tried to save us from them.
Auf deutsch!
Zweite!
Where do I buy this?
some of these can be bought on sites like nestof and epicmilitaria, they are expensive tho and all are reproduction