A few other things I couldn’t fit in the description: - A big thank you again to those who’ve supported the channel on ko-fi/thereorderboard! You can also follow me on Twitter too @thereorderboard. This week I had to cram two weekends into 4 days off from work, which was made more interesting by a switch in editing program. Render times have been slashed and there’s many more helpful tools. I’ve really enjoyed ShotCut (which is free) but I wanted to step up my skills a bit. I’ve gone to DaVinci Resolve which allows nearly everything apart from the high-end stuff in their free download! I’m very glad to reach the end of our black and white period, as you can imagine! I’ve got to remember how to use colour!! I’ve edited my text above many times, I do want to make it clear that Eurovision wasn’t the end of Sandie Shaw’s career by any stretch, but it did come at the end of her stellar run in the mid-1960s and she felt it ruined her career! She appeared in San Remo in 1990! Give this a watch for the fuller picture: th-cam.com/video/JE5jA6B4WF4/w-d-xo.html - Probably time to talk commentators. You might think that the UK’s first win might have some excellent UK commentary. It doesn’t seem to exist on TH-cam anywhere, so it may not have been recorded. The BBC revamped its selection process for 1967, and in agreement with Shaw’s manager, Sandie would be entrant and viewers would be able to select the song to sing. All of this happened on the The Rolf Harris Show. Harris had flipped between Australia and the UK, but in the 1960s had in the UK and had a couple of quirky hits. An artist, he also made for interesting television painting on camera and using his catchphrase ‘can you tell what it is yet?’. In 1967, The Rolf Harris Show started, and it featured Sandie Shaw’s songs, with Rolf providing the commentary for the final for UK viewers. Harris stayed as a major UK personality right up to his arrest by Operation Yewtree officers in March 2013. In 2014, Harris was sentenced to 5 years, 9 months in prison for a selection of charges relating to indecent assaults on four underage girls during the 1970s and 1980s. His MBE, OBE and CBE honours were revoked. Harris applied to appeal, but the permission was refused. - I was interested to know whether anyone had any idea if anything had happened in the organisation on 67 that would cause it to be delayed? I just noticed the ORF commentator opens with ‘the show must go on’, and the date is a few weeks later than usual? - A commenter (Antonio Jesús Ríos Cabrera) mentioned in frustration that I had not mentioned anything about Spain’s Raphael. I did notice him, of course, but I think my commentary was stretched to just mention Domenico Modugno’s intense performance because it was noteworthy in Italy’s decline in the contest at this time. Raphael’s performance was of course, intense too - on both edit’s I’ve kept the last seconds of his song in my edit because they are so powerful. I did feel this reflected that divide between the English-speaking world and the Spanish though. I was quite ignorant of Raphael’s success outside of Eurovision, which was found in Spanish speaking South (and the United States of) America. I’m sure if you ask the average English-speaking Eurovision fan, the biggest Spanish artist would probably be Julio Iglesias! Either way, I didn’t mention Spain’s growing success on the scoreboards, but there’s time for that yet! I have to say, I felt the voting went smoothly for me! I was awaiting lots of jury errors, but board errors are fine here! I really enjoyed editing this selection of songs too, although applying lyrics to Ringe-Dinge was a nightmare! I think Switzerland were treated quite harshly by the juries, really the 0 pointer should have been Monaco - despite the clever lyrics referencing the Cold War, the tune is awful!! I Overall, though, this was a decent show with a strong set of songs, especially from Luxembourg (which is often bracketed with ‘Volare’ as a successful non-winning song), Yugoslavia, Spain (once again) and a very solid entry from Ireland. Portugal, which might be clipped by copyright, is an amazing entry too, marking off the first black male to take to the Eurovision stage.I think I could have called this one ‘the juries didn’t (m)uck it up’ as they successfully managed to pick out the big star. - It turns out staging the TV show in that hall wasn’t an amazing idea, with poor Vaal unable to spot Ireland at the foot of the board (if you check out @JDSWorld’s blog, you’ll see what angle she had to deal with). Despite the grand setting, the singers were once again cramped in one corner, much like Naples. I like the mirrors though, and Sandy Shaw using a hand mic isn’t a first, but it was noticed by the commentator at the end. - Since we’re at a new broadcaster, here’s a bit about ORF, which began in 1923 as RAVAG but Austria was a tricky place then. News largely didn’t feature at all, and then once the fascist regime came in, it became a tool for propaganda. It was then subsumed into the German broadcasting system after 1938. When a provisional government was set up in 1945, RAVAG came back and in the post occupation period it finally formed ORF. Television started in 1952 but 1967 was a key year for the organisation as it got its grounding in Austrian law. Austrians must be provided with 3 radio stations and two television channels. You might notice that Erica Vaal went on to work on the new youth orientated radio station, set up the same year as BBC Radio 1. What differed in Austria compared to the UK is the lack of competition. It took the European Court of Human Rights to rule that Austria should have a non-ORF option in 1993! Plurality in television didn’t happen legally until 1997! - Andtheconductoris.eu ITALY: Chiaramello: “That story [that RAI weren’t aware the San Remo winning song wasn’t eligible for Vienna] is absolutely false! It is true that he would have preferred to sing ‘Non pensare a me’, but we were aware of the regulations and in the weeks leading up to the competition, a new song was written by Gino Mescoli and Vito Pallavicini. […] Why Claudio Villa only finished eleventh in Vienna? Well, ‘Non andare più lontano’ is a wonderful song, but it failed to catch on internationally. For a European audience, Claudio was a singer who sounded too classical. His approach was hardly suited to Northern-European ears. Perhaps he was a little old too, certainly compared to Sandie Shaw, who won the contest. In commercial terms, ‘Puppet on a string’ was an excellent song performed by a beautiful young girl. Moreover, it had the advantage of being performed in English.” - Andtheconductoris.eu SWEDEN (1967 was the first year of ‘Melodifestivalen’) What was the festival in Vienna like for Olsson? “In a way, it was nothing more than just another conducting performance, but I must admit the atmosphere around a festival like this was inspirational and intense. It was not the first time I worked with a foreign orchestra, having made guest appearances in Finland and Norway before. There were no problems in the communication with the Austrian orchestra musicians; after all, music notation is the same all over the world. Moreover, Eurovision orchestras always consisted of competent musicians who knew what they were doing. Unfortunately, the attitude of the string section of the Vienna orchestra towards the competition was slightly negative. Contrary to the rhythm and brass section, the string players were classical musicians. There was no need to ask the first violinist what he thought about the Eurovision event: his face spoke for itself!”. “The winning song”, Olsson continues, “was of course Sandie Shaw’s ‘Puppet on a string’ from England. In the greenroom, where all the artists and conductors had gathered to watch the voting, I happened to be seated next to her. She was very young at that time and extremely nervous. We had a nice conversation and I told her I was convinced her song would win. She was not that confident herself, but in the end, when she won it, she was over the moon - what else would you expect?” - Andtheconductoris.eu FINLAND: “That week in Austria was very nice”, Runne recalls. “As always when I went to a Eurovision Song Contest, my wife accompanied me. Since there were only a couple of rehearsals, we had plenty opportunity to go sightseeing. Visiting all these wonderful palaces in Vienna was thoroughly enjoyable. As for Fredi, I remember walking out on stage with him before the start of our first rehearsal. There was some publisher sitting in the first row hiding his face in his hands when he saw us. We truly must have looked an odd couple: this huge, 150 kilogram singer accompanied by his short conductor… we were the music equivalent of Laurel and Hardy, so to speak!”
Boy, could they have done with you in Vienna that night eh?
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Hello David. Thank you so much for mentioning my comment on your 1966 video. I'm sure that Raphael is far more known in the spanish-speaking countries than those in english-speaking world but I thought it was at least recognized as one of the current biggest stars to have appeared on an Eurovision stage. By the way, some years after his two eurovision appearances, he made this outstanding performance with the Welsh Tiger: th-cam.com/video/GQPpF__kRXs/w-d-xo.html
@@danielvarga2729 Hi Dániel - 1968 has been pulled because of copyright, I'm going to do some work on it tomorrow and it'll be back up in some form at the weekend.
Fun fact: none of the singers that represented Monaco at Eurovision were native from that country, but Minouche Barelli, who represented Monaco in 1967, would eventually acquire Monegasque citizenship, as she would later move to live (and to unfortunately pass away in 2002) in the Principality.
@@jejtherusheddoodle23 Camillo Felgan (1960, 1962), Monique Melsen (1971), Sophie Carle (1984), Sarah Bray (1991) and Marion Walter (1992) were native Luxembourgish.
Hooray! The most quiet of 1960 scoreboards. Literally this video is what I will watch to calm myself down to sleep late at night honestly. This is seriously the most peaceful voting year of in all honestly idk but anyway. Like if you agree.
Hurrah! Another great super-cut! Your scoreboard and lower thirds are so in keeping with what ORF were doing back in 1967. And you managed to use the circles on the board much more effectively than they did. Ausgezeichnet! We're not in colour just yet, but ESC 1967 looks much more modern to our eyes because it's archived in 625 line VT rather than a telerecording. We can still see it more or less exactly how it looked live on TV. This feels to me like another step up for the contest. There's a real feel that Eurovision is now a major event and not just a fun annual TV programme. So many iconic aspects of the contest are here together for the first time - repeating scores in English and French, green room shots during the voting, making a real fuss of last year's winner. A lot of what makes a classic Eurovision starts this year. As for the songs - I'm thrilled the UK has won at last and 'Puppet on a String' is a fun song sung very well. And it's particularly fitting that the UK wins with a joint English/Scottish/Norn Iron effort. But... all that said... I actually prefer Ireland. 'If I Could Choose' is my all time favourite Irish entry and my favourite ESC song of the 60s. Apart from the top two I would pick out Luxembourg and Germany. (And golly gosh, doesn't Raphael know how to flirt with the camera?! I think I blushed the first time I watched Spain's entry in full!!)
Thanks for the comment! Very interesting about the archive moving away from telerecording, finally! I'm basically over the moon to be past this phase of the Contest lol! Also glad to know you're partial to a good old eye brow flirt!
What has always amazed me about this production is that they somehow managed (as far as I can tell) to obscure all the technical equipment despite the fact that there were rotating mirrors all over the stage. I always look hoping to spot a camera or a lighting rig or something. But all we ever see are the orchestra and the stage.
Thanks for adding the link to my blog! Excellent job once again, I particularly like what you’ve done with the circles. The ones on the actual scoreboard were pretty useless, only used at the end. All that width added for not much use. It would have been sensible to have used them during the voting to update on who was leading, though I fear this may have been too much for the students!
Wow... I have to say that stylistically this might be your best scoreboard yet. I absolutely love it! The use of the circles and the rotating quadrants (?) plus the fonts... it was the perfect balance of prime late-60s imagery and modern sleekness and finesse. Quite wonderful - congratulations! I just also wanted to say that I'm sorry I can't support you more on Ko-Fi. I'm on a somewhat limited income these days and can't donate as much as I'd like. If circumstances change, however, I'll contribute accordingly... :)
Ah thanks Chris, that's very kind. And please, don't worry about Ko-Fi...I hope you're following on it, you'll continue to see preview vids up there without continually donating. I hope all is well with you, I'm sure your circumstances will change soon enough! :-)
@@thereorderboard Thanks a lot. I've made a few donations to you on Ko-Fi before, but it only gives me preview access to your page for one month. After that, I can't see your videos. I always thought a donation to Ko-Fi allowed open-ended access to the creator's page, but apparently not. Just thought you'd like to know. :)
This is one of those contests where the scoring would be more fair on the 1-8/10/12 system. So many good songs, especially from Luxembourg, Portugal, Spain, Finland and Yugoslavia. But got relatively low marks cause it wasn't most of the juries favourites.
I’m glad that 🇬🇧 United Kingdom won here, a catchy song that stands out well in the field. Our second best victory (the first of course is 1997). I’ve a few songs I prefer here. 🇱🇺 Luxembourg (absolute classic) was my 67 winner until a few days earlier, until 🇲🇨 Monaco took over. A very different song, though Minouche’s vocal certainly suits this song which takes you on a proper journey! Honourable mention to 🇮🇪 Ireland; the best of their 60s ballads (though as we will see, not yet my favourite 60s Irish song).
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Poor Clifford Brown. What a nightmare scoreboard to manage. Apparently students from Vienna University were hired to operate the scoreboard. They were clearly having a laugh. If it's of any interest to anyone... Sandie Shaw's pink sparkly dress that she wore for Eurovision has just gone on display in the theatre galleries at the V&A museum in London.
Another great effort! The white circles have a certain James Bond feel, which is really cool and the ReorderBoard complemented the actual scoreboard very nicely. I really liked Erica Vaal: despite all the cock-ups on the scoreboard (had the students been drinking??), she kept the show on the road. Not sure if it’s possible, but could I put in a request for some “flippy” scoreboard numbers for the next ReorderBoard, please, as they had on the real scoreboard in 1968 (and 1969)? Thanks for all your hard work! 👍
EURO GEEK TIME: 1967 seems a strange contest now given the 1960's pop plain stage design for 1966 and knowing as we do that colour would burst on the scene the following year. Erica Vaal was clearly very nervous throughout the show especially having to talk in so many languages. She apologises to the people of Yugoslavia for not welcoming them in their language despite just after indeed repeating her opening remarks in Serbo-Croatian, the national language of Yugoslavia at the time. Her forgetfulness at the end in not calling up the Irish jury was later said to be due to exhaustion. She said she felt totally drained. She had a very success career on radio afterwards presenting a Latin American Music Show that ran for 25 years and became an expert in the history of Latin American music and its cultural significance. In later life she became a successful documentary photographer. She was 40 when she presented Eurovision. Erica is the first presenter to repeat all the scores in two languages. In the past the presenter either translated the French to English only, or the English to French only or neither and just repeated what the spokesperson said. It was Clifford Brown who decided this should happen. Erica Vaal is one of the presenters we have sadly lost when she died in 2013 just shortly before Austria's second victory. The rule saying half the jury members should be under 30 doesn't mean that exactly half should be. It means 'at least' half should be under 30. In fact, of the 170 jury members, 92 were under 30 and 19 were aged between 16-19. The BBC do not hold originals of any of the contests it hosted or won in the 1960's or 1970's. The contests it does hold are copies obtained from the EBU or other countries. This despite the host country and winners holding the joint rights to contests pre 2003. The BBC continually deny they have any rights to any of the contests, even when the EBU tell them so. So trying to get the use of contest footage from the BBC is almost impossible. They probably are relieved they don't hold a copy of Rolf Harris' commentary given his sex abuse convictions. Anyway, audience feedback at the time was poor about his commentary saying he talked far too much and was obviously 'over excited', [drunk possibly?] Lots of people in the UK audience feedback complained that the revolving mirror gave them headaches. This is the first time we have video from The Green Room. It is only the second time we see any green room, there is one photograph of 1964. In the UK National Final Sandie sang 5 songs and an EP was released containing the losing 4 which reached Number 4 in the EP charts. Tell The Boys, which came second was a good hit for Sandie on the continent. Sandie recorded all the songs in French, German, Spanish and Italian. Sandie's backing vocalists were The Ladybirds, Maggie Stredder, Gloria George & Barbara Moore, who sang on EVERYTHING in the 1960's and sang the live vocals on many Top of The Pops. The Ladybirds would return to Eurovision, with Ann Simmonds replacing Gloria George although George is often wrongly credited fro this performance, to sing backing vocals for Olivia Newton John in 1974. There are a couple of colour photographs of the Spanish and Portuguese rehearsals. The only other colour photographs are of Sandie's reprise and of her and Udo at the scoreboard. there is a fabulous photograph that shows the hall during an orchestra rehearsal which shows how small the hall and set actually is. It looks much bigger on screen. You can't seem to attach photographs to TH-cam comments. Sandie's microphone also failed when singing Puppet in the NF and she had to restart. It was later revealed that her manager, Eve Taylor, had paid a sound engineer to switch it off to draw attention to the song and make people sit up, It is thought this is what happened too in Vienna. Denmark withdrew as their new head of light entertainment said the contest didn't reflect the criteria of providing suitable light entertainment for a Danish market. My personal favourites were Finland, Portugal, Monaco and Sweden. The contest didn't actually start until 10pm Vienna time. As the UK changed their clocks at a different time of the year in the 1960's, the time in Vienna was actually the same as in the UK. 1967 was also shown in Eastern Europe through Intermission brining to total viewing audience up to about 200 million. There were only 550 in the actual hall itself. Luxembourg entry, L'Amour Est Bleu, would have worldwide success as an instrumental called Love Is Blue and reach Number 1 in the USA. Vicky would of course return and be triumphant in 1972. Sandie toured a lot in Europe before the contest, she was well known there especially in France, although her popularity had been waining as it had in the UK. The songwriters sold the arrangement in the weeks up to the contest to numerous dance bands throughout Europe so people were not only hearing the song on the radio they were hearing it played at their local dance hall. This was really the first time a Eurovision entry had been so wildly promoted prior to the contest. Sandie always said she hated the song but did record a new version for her 60th Birthday. Sandie had many scandals in her life and her share of unhappiness and wasn't the easiest person to work with, and these all added to her career demise. The Portuguese entry has become a standard in Portugal and been recorded by many people and groups up to the present day. Iva Zannichi was originally to sing for Italy but she withdrew for personal reasons. Claudio Villa was her co-singer at Sanremo [at that time all songs were sung at Sanremo by 2 singers with different arrangements]. The songwriting winners of 1958, 1969 and 1965 all returned to try again. The Irish Spokesperson was Gay Byrne who would go on to present many a Eurovision Irish NF on his Late Late Show. Ignore what it says on Wikipedia about the other Spokespersons, most of that is wrong and misleading. Alongside presenter Erica Vaal, we have sadly lost Eduardo Nascimento of Portugal, Osten Warnerbring of Sweden, Fredi from Finland, Louis Neefs of Belgium, Minouche Barelli of Monaco, Caudio Villa of Italy and Sean Dunphy of Ireland.
Thanks for this treasure trove of info again! A couple of things jumped out, namely why Rolf was used once and not again...the audience feedback makes a lot of sense, of course I know the pre-selection went to Cilla's show in 1968. I expect he was a bit of a sharp change from David Jacobs for audiences, a lot of whom might not have tuned into the preselection. The mic! That almost smacks of cheating! Clever though! The start time also perplexed me. I realised in my edit that my video was longer than before, and I'd realised I'd not checked in with programme listings for while...I went on to the BBC's Genome project to look up the listings for April 1967 and saw some confusion. It was indeed listed at 10pm, but then it's been algorithmically listed at 8pm too (with a link to the BBC's Eurovision webpage). The listings state: 6:40pm The Monkees: Monkees in the Ring 7:05pm High Adventure: Wild Harvest [erroneous 8pm listing] 8:35pm The Best of Benny Hill 9:20pm Harry Worth: Night Train to Nowhere 9:50pm News 10:00pm Eurovision Song Contest: Grand Prix 1967 11:45pm Match of the Day The programme did run roughly to time (despite the mistakes in the voting) which is why they managed to get the rather lengthy 'goodbye' section in!
@@thereorderboard Thanks again.Well done on another excellent presentation. Another couple of little bits and pieces of Geekdom. The original proposed time for the contest was 9pm but the Central European countries wanted it later which is why 10pm was decided upon. Perhaps the confusion about the start time on some sites comes from the UK clock changes being different in 1967 from now and people just presume that a 10pm start time in Vienna would be an earlier time in the UK. There were 2 trailers shown on the BBC on the day of the contest. One at 5.15pm for 50 seconds of Rolf Harris in the ballroom where the contest would take place, and another just before the Harry Worth show at 9.20 which was just 15 seconds long and showed Rolf and Sandie in a toy shop [probably looking at Puppets] in Vienna. There are some photographs of Sandie having dinner with singer Adam Faith who had discovered her and remained her champion, the night before the contest. Although he isn't mentioned in the BBC delegation or travel arrangements, it is presumed that Adam travelled to Vienna to watch the contest. Switzerland had recommended a change to the scoring in that every jury member instead of giving just one point should give 1,2,3 points to their top 3. These would then be added together to give a total mark for whichever country they were awarded too. So a country could have technically been awarded 30 points from a jury - 10 jury members X 3 points. How the Austrian students on ladders would have coped with that is a challenge to imagine. Luckily no one else thought this a good idea but the scoring would continue to be a well debated issue for years to come. Had the 1974 proposed system went ahead then Eurovision history would be very different, but we shall get the that when the time comes. The orchestra had 45 members. ITN archive holds footage of Sandie's return to London airport after her win. Apparently Rolf chatted very animated and continually at the end after Sandie's reprise and talked over the top of Erica Vaal, even when she was speaking in English. This especially annoyed a lot of the viewing audience.
I love your rather faithful adaptation of the scoreboard here (minus the mistakes obviously), although the voting sequence was rather unexciting. I quite liked Erika Vaal - she was quite charming and her opening presentation in several languages was quite tasteful. I enjoyed her banter with Gay Byrne (the Irish spokesperson) when she almost left him out. I am also happy that you kept the cutaways into the green room because there seemed to be a nice vibe going on in there (obviously they were all relaxed knowing from early on that the UK would win handsomely). One thing: is it me or does Sandie seem unhappy with the attention that Udo Jurgens appears to be paying her throughout the voting? From now on, I will be using the 12 points format when giving my votes: 1pt - Norway 2pt - Portugal 3pt - Switzerland (nice song but not great performance) 4pt - UK (a worthy winner due to Sandie's performance but I share her sentiments of the song) 5pt - Sweden 6pt - Germany 7pt - Spain: better than his 66 entry 8pt - Luxembourg 10pt - Finland: I just love this for its quirkiness 12pt - France: quite a lovely song and beautiful performer
Yes I wanted to comment that Udo was doing the classic 'I'm in on your success' move...a bit patronising. I don't think Udo reached Sandie's level of success but then I'm being awfully Anglo-centric again!
Well I thought the scoreboard turned out pretty nicely! During the song presentation, I was wondering how those circles would've worked out, but I'm glad to see it put to good use in the voting! Though the actual situation was pretty anti-climatic; fortunately the hiccups were elsewhere on the board. #allora For 1967, I thought it had a pretty nice location, though the song quality was just nice. With the exception of Switzerland, I thought this was the best year for the Francophone song-wise, as you will see next, though some other countries put in a few surprises here and there. I'm surprised by how much appeal "Puppet on a String" had, though it kind of made sense in the context for the future. It's a bit sad Erika didn't live long enough to learn more languages for the 2015 contest. (Also, I'm so happy we're going into color next time!) My top five (honorable mention to France, which has really grown on me!): 5. GER 4. PRT 3. ESP -- Again, Raphael delivers on his song with all his heart, though I find Hableamos del Amor a bit more sedate. It's still really casual and sweet, and is less repetitive than Yo soy aquel. If Spain would've won with one of his two entries, it would've been better than La la la... 2. LUX -- A definite classic here! I love the use of color to carry the song, and despite Vicky's accent, it flows quite well. I especially like the orchestral bridge in the middle; how would've this changed the contest had it won? 1. MCO -- But Boum Badaboum delivers on energy and bite, with Minouche wanting to enjoy her life before a nuclear disaster. The repetition, while a bit noisy at times, emphasizes the danger up ahead while at the same time adding a groovy feel to the song. The orchestra really helps too! Probably my favorite from the country.
Thanks for this comment - although I can't get on board with MCO lol, even though I think it's worthy of it's place in Eurovision history. I really rated Germany this year I think!
1967: History: Elsewhere in 1967, yet more Vietnam of course. The trail of Wilhelm Harster begins in Munich, accused of the murder of 82,856 Jews, including Anne Frank. His sentence? 15 years. There’s a bust up between the two large communist powers, China and the USSR which starts with demonstrations outside the Soviet embassy in Beijing. A few weeks after the Contest, Greece has a military coup which leads to a dictatorship that doesn’t end until 1974, despite an attempted counter-coup in December by the King. The UK and Ireland apply to join the EEC. The Beatles release Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, which dominates the charts throughout the summer of 67. In June the 6 Day War between Israel and Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Jordan kicks off ending in a UN mediated cease-fire after…six days. On June 25th, 400 million people tune into ‘Our World’, the first live international satellite television production - it features the debut of ‘All You Need Is Love’ by The Beatles. The EEC joins the ECSC and Euratom to form the European Communities, or the ‘EC’ in July. On the same day the BBC broadcasts a colour tv programme from the Wimbledon Championships, in December BBC 2 will be fully in colour. July 4th, homosexuality in the UK is decriminalised, which is helpful. The Abortion Act 1967 passes in October. In August, the first line up of Fleetwood Mac make their debut at the Windsor Jazz and Blues Festival. Part of the Swinging 60s dies, with the closure, by law, or Wonderful Radio London. Radio Caroline remained anchored off the UK coast but the Marine Broadcasting Offences Act aims to get it! Late in the year, the BBC would radically reform it’s radio offering, splitting the Light Programme (home of Eurovision) into Radio 1 and 2, with Radio 1 being more youth orientated.
Your comment that the BBC made its first colour broadcast during Wimbledon ‘67 will of course have an effect on the contest the following year with the move to colour. Of course, colour photographs of the actual 1967 board show it was black and white, so a colour transmission from ORF would have made little impact to the 1967 scoreboard!
I did some research and couldn't find out why the 67 contest was delayed. I did find an article from the The Wicklow People in January 1967 that said the Irish entry had to have 'a distinct Irish flavour'. That would be why the lyrics refer to County Clare and 'turf smoke rising' no doubt...
"If I Could Choose" was written by Wesley Burrows, script writer for "The Riordans " ,a rural Irish soap. He had other lyrics but had to change them for that "Distinct I😀rish flavour ". He did a parody lyric at the ridiculousness of it all , according to himself. However he realised he missed a trick when seeing Sandie Shaw's barefoot performance. Had he convinced Sean Dunphy to perform the song barefoot and pregnant the song would surely have won. " My lovely Horse " is only trotting in it's wake.
If Wikipedia is correct, then we had lots of connections to previous contests among the spokespersons. The Dutch spokesperson was Corry Brokken (winner 1957, later host 1976), the French spokesperson was Andre Cleaveau (winner 1958) and Anaid Iplicjian (host 1957) was the German spokesperson. I can’t comment on Andre, but I’m pretty sure those are the voices of Corry and Anaid.
Actually none of this is true, Wiki is as usual talking nonsense. The Dutch spokesperson was Ellen Blazer, The French spokesperson Jean-Claude Massoulier and the German spokesperson Karin Tietze Ludwig. This is on record at the EBU and ORF
This video made me realise that Austria doesn’t like Ireland… in 1967 Erika missed Ireland in naming top countries AND in voting, and when the contest finally came back to Austria in 2015- Ireland got the 2nd spot in their SF which I think was known as the bad luck spot… yikes 😬
This is stupid to say the word hate, Erika had made several errors in the show, including forgetting Ireland to vote, even Udo Jurgens thought it was over by trying to get Sandy Shaw to get out of her seat. As Gay had said..No trouble at all.
My votes: (from 🇳🇱) 1 point for Belgium 🇧🇪 3 points for Norway 🇳🇴 5 points for the UK!!!! 🇬🇧 Fun to see a young Vicky Leandros, she really improved in those 5 years, didn't she? France and Spain really had beautiful songs. Monaco and Yugoslavia were good too. Love the Irish singers voice.
Thanks for this. Your scoreboard ideas are inovated but still based on the original. I love to watch your videos. 1967. just like every year the best song did not win (according by music theory).
@@thereorderboard Well I have several oppinions: as a journalist, as a someone who studied music, and as an ordinary citizen. So, I'll keep secret my opinion.
Almost no suspense at all when it comes to the actual voting, I mean UK in the lead by TWENTY points after only 6 countries voted (like Rybak leading by 50p in 2009 after only 8 countries voted), maybe it was good that they didn´t had a rearranged board, because it looked more close :)
Erica Vaal was addressing the viewers and listeners in the Soviet Union, in Russian. She did say „Lahko noč“ (“Good night”) in Slovene - the language of the Yugoslav entry - at the end of the programme 🙂
@@Aleksa_Milicevic - Ah, that’ll explain it then: I don’t speak either Serbo-Croatian or Russian, but recognise “dobre vecher” (apologies if spelled wrongly, but as I said...) from when the hosts go to the former Yugoslav countries for their points and therefore thought Vaal was speaking Serbo-Croatian.
Jose Luis Uribarri's 1969 commentary is a good option. I wonder which commentary will be used for 1968... By the way, there have been many behind the scenes programs shown on this channel (1964, 1998 or 1999), so how about an after-contest program for 1968? The Spanish jury celebrating right after the end of the 1968 contest: th-cam.com/video/013q9WteW1o/w-d-xo.html
@@manuelbonilla7348 that is Udo Jürgens, winner of 1966. He also thought the voting was over but she was like "NO Ireland still needs to vote" he was very eager to give her the prize since he was the last winner
A few other things I couldn’t fit in the description:
- A big thank you again to those who’ve supported the channel on ko-fi/thereorderboard! You can also follow me on Twitter too @thereorderboard. This week I had to cram two weekends into 4 days off from work, which was made more interesting by a switch in editing program. Render times have been slashed and there’s many more helpful tools. I’ve really enjoyed ShotCut (which is free) but I wanted to step up my skills a bit. I’ve gone to DaVinci Resolve which allows nearly everything apart from the high-end stuff in their free download! I’m very glad to reach the end of our black and white period, as you can imagine! I’ve got to remember how to use colour!! I’ve edited my text above many times, I do want to make it clear that Eurovision wasn’t the end of Sandie Shaw’s career by any stretch, but it did come at the end of her stellar run in the mid-1960s and she felt it ruined her career! She appeared in San Remo in 1990! Give this a watch for the fuller picture: th-cam.com/video/JE5jA6B4WF4/w-d-xo.html
- Probably time to talk commentators. You might think that the UK’s first win might have some excellent UK commentary. It doesn’t seem to exist on TH-cam anywhere, so it may not have been recorded. The BBC revamped its selection process for 1967, and in agreement with Shaw’s manager, Sandie would be entrant and viewers would be able to select the song to sing. All of this happened on the The Rolf Harris Show. Harris had flipped between Australia and the UK, but in the 1960s had in the UK and had a couple of quirky hits. An artist, he also made for interesting television painting on camera and using his catchphrase ‘can you tell what it is yet?’. In 1967, The Rolf Harris Show started, and it featured Sandie Shaw’s songs, with Rolf providing the commentary for the final for UK viewers. Harris stayed as a major UK personality right up to his arrest by Operation Yewtree officers in March 2013. In 2014, Harris was sentenced to 5 years, 9 months in prison for a selection of charges relating to indecent assaults on four underage girls during the 1970s and 1980s. His MBE, OBE and CBE honours were revoked. Harris applied to appeal, but the permission was refused.
- I was interested to know whether anyone had any idea if anything had happened in the organisation on 67 that would cause it to be delayed? I just noticed the ORF commentator opens with ‘the show must go on’, and the date is a few weeks later than usual?
- A commenter (Antonio Jesús Ríos Cabrera) mentioned in frustration that I had not mentioned anything about Spain’s Raphael. I did notice him, of course, but I think my commentary was stretched to just mention Domenico Modugno’s intense performance because it was noteworthy in Italy’s decline in the contest at this time. Raphael’s performance was of course, intense too - on both edit’s I’ve kept the last seconds of his song in my edit because they are so powerful. I did feel this reflected that divide between the English-speaking world and the Spanish though. I was quite ignorant of Raphael’s success outside of Eurovision, which was found in Spanish speaking South (and the United States of) America. I’m sure if you ask the average English-speaking Eurovision fan, the biggest Spanish artist would probably be Julio Iglesias! Either way, I didn’t mention Spain’s growing success on the scoreboards, but there’s time for that yet!
I have to say, I felt the voting went smoothly for me! I was awaiting lots of jury errors, but board errors are fine here! I really enjoyed editing this selection of songs too, although applying lyrics to Ringe-Dinge was a nightmare! I think Switzerland were treated quite harshly by the juries, really the 0 pointer should have been Monaco - despite the clever lyrics referencing the Cold War, the tune is awful!! I Overall, though, this was a decent show with a strong set of songs, especially from Luxembourg (which is often bracketed with ‘Volare’ as a successful non-winning song), Yugoslavia, Spain (once again) and a very solid entry from Ireland. Portugal, which might be clipped by copyright, is an amazing entry too, marking off the first black male to take to the Eurovision stage.I think I could have called this one ‘the juries didn’t (m)uck it up’ as they successfully managed to pick out the big star.
- It turns out staging the TV show in that hall wasn’t an amazing idea, with poor Vaal unable to spot Ireland at the foot of the board (if you check out @JDSWorld’s blog, you’ll see what angle she had to deal with). Despite the grand setting, the singers were once again cramped in one corner, much like Naples. I like the mirrors though, and Sandy Shaw using a hand mic isn’t a first, but it was noticed by the commentator at the end.
- Since we’re at a new broadcaster, here’s a bit about ORF, which began in 1923 as RAVAG but Austria was a tricky place then. News largely didn’t feature at all, and then once the fascist regime came in, it became a tool for propaganda. It was then subsumed into the German broadcasting system after 1938. When a provisional government was set up in 1945, RAVAG came back and in the post occupation period it finally formed ORF. Television started in 1952 but 1967 was a key year for the organisation as it got its grounding in Austrian law. Austrians must be provided with 3 radio stations and two television channels. You might notice that Erica Vaal went on to work on the new youth orientated radio station, set up the same year as BBC Radio 1. What differed in Austria compared to the UK is the lack of competition. It took the European Court of Human Rights to rule that Austria should have a non-ORF option in 1993! Plurality in television didn’t happen legally until 1997!
- Andtheconductoris.eu ITALY: Chiaramello: “That story [that RAI weren’t aware the San Remo winning song wasn’t eligible for Vienna] is absolutely false! It is true that he would have preferred to sing ‘Non pensare a me’, but we were aware of the regulations and in the weeks leading up to the competition, a new song was written by Gino Mescoli and Vito Pallavicini. […] Why Claudio Villa only finished eleventh in Vienna? Well, ‘Non andare più lontano’ is a wonderful song, but it failed to catch on internationally. For a European audience, Claudio was a singer who sounded too classical. His approach was hardly suited to Northern-European ears. Perhaps he was a little old too, certainly compared to Sandie Shaw, who won the contest. In commercial terms, ‘Puppet on a string’ was an excellent song performed by a beautiful young girl. Moreover, it had the advantage of being performed in English.”
- Andtheconductoris.eu SWEDEN (1967 was the first year of ‘Melodifestivalen’) What was the festival in Vienna like for Olsson? “In a way, it was nothing more than just another conducting performance, but I must admit the atmosphere around a festival like this was inspirational and intense. It was not the first time I worked with a foreign orchestra, having made guest appearances in Finland and Norway before. There were no problems in the communication with the Austrian orchestra musicians; after all, music notation is the same all over the world. Moreover, Eurovision orchestras always consisted of competent musicians who knew what they were doing. Unfortunately, the attitude of the string section of the Vienna orchestra towards the competition was slightly negative. Contrary to the rhythm and brass section, the string players were classical musicians. There was no need to ask the first violinist what he thought about the Eurovision event: his face spoke for itself!”. “The winning song”, Olsson continues, “was of course Sandie Shaw’s ‘Puppet on a string’ from England. In the greenroom, where all the artists and conductors had gathered to watch the voting, I happened to be seated next to her. She was very young at that time and extremely nervous. We had a nice conversation and I told her I was convinced her song would win. She was not that confident herself, but in the end, when she won it, she was over the moon - what else would you expect?”
- Andtheconductoris.eu FINLAND: “That week in Austria was very nice”, Runne recalls. “As always when I went to a Eurovision Song Contest, my wife accompanied me. Since there were only a couple of rehearsals, we had plenty opportunity to go sightseeing. Visiting all these wonderful palaces in Vienna was thoroughly enjoyable. As for Fredi, I remember walking out on stage with him before the start of our first rehearsal. There was some publisher sitting in the first row hiding his face in his hands when he saw us. We truly must have looked an odd couple: this huge, 150 kilogram singer accompanied by his short conductor… we were the music equivalent of Laurel and Hardy, so to speak!”
Boy, could they have done with you in Vienna that night eh?
Hello David. Thank you so much for mentioning my comment on your 1966 video. I'm sure that Raphael is far more known in the spanish-speaking countries than those in english-speaking world but I thought it was at least recognized as one of the current biggest stars to have appeared on an Eurovision stage. By the way, some years after his two eurovision appearances, he made this outstanding performance with the Welsh Tiger: th-cam.com/video/GQPpF__kRXs/w-d-xo.html
Hey they just released esc 1968 in very good quality on the official Eurovision youtube page. Maybe you can use it for your 1968 video!!!! ;)
Hey! Have you deleted ESC 1968? I can't find it anymore! :(
@@danielvarga2729 Hi Dániel - 1968 has been pulled because of copyright, I'm going to do some work on it tomorrow and it'll be back up in some form at the weekend.
Fun fact: none of the singers that represented Monaco at Eurovision were native from that country, but Minouche Barelli, who represented Monaco in 1967, would eventually acquire Monegasque citizenship, as she would later move to live (and to unfortunately pass away in 2002) in the Principality.
Same for Luxembourg, but I'm not sure if anyone got citizenship from Luxembourg.
@@jejtherusheddoodle23 Camillo Felgan (1960, 1962), Monique Melsen (1971), Sophie Carle (1984), Sarah Bray (1991) and Marion Walter (1992) were native Luxembourgish.
@@paulojrneto oh. Guess I mixed up the countries
Actually: no. Before Minouche there was Colette Déreal who represented Monaco in Eurovision 1961 being French - and also later neutralizing Monegasque
@@nadirhajjour I didn't know that, I thought it was just Minouche.
If you said to people in 1967 that it would take a bearded lady to bring Eurovision back to Austria, I doubt they’d have believed you!
YEAH RIGHT.
@@uttpisbetterthaneurovisiondamn, calm tf down kid
Hooray! The most quiet of 1960 scoreboards. Literally this video is what I will watch to calm myself down to sleep late at night honestly. This is seriously the most peaceful voting year of in all honestly idk but anyway. Like if you agree.
It's very hypnotic! I agree! I quite enjoyed it!
Hurrah! Another great super-cut! Your scoreboard and lower thirds are so in keeping with what ORF were doing back in 1967. And you managed to use the circles on the board much more effectively than they did. Ausgezeichnet!
We're not in colour just yet, but ESC 1967 looks much more modern to our eyes because it's archived in 625 line VT rather than a telerecording. We can still see it more or less exactly how it looked live on TV.
This feels to me like another step up for the contest. There's a real feel that Eurovision is now a major event and not just a fun annual TV programme. So many iconic aspects of the contest are here together for the first time - repeating scores in English and French, green room shots during the voting, making a real fuss of last year's winner. A lot of what makes a classic Eurovision starts this year.
As for the songs - I'm thrilled the UK has won at last and 'Puppet on a String' is a fun song sung very well. And it's particularly fitting that the UK wins with a joint English/Scottish/Norn Iron effort. But... all that said... I actually prefer Ireland. 'If I Could Choose' is my all time favourite Irish entry and my favourite ESC song of the 60s. Apart from the top two I would pick out Luxembourg and Germany.
(And golly gosh, doesn't Raphael know how to flirt with the camera?! I think I blushed the first time I watched Spain's entry in full!!)
Thanks for the comment! Very interesting about the archive moving away from telerecording, finally! I'm basically over the moon to be past this phase of the Contest lol! Also glad to know you're partial to a good old eye brow flirt!
The QUALITY IS SOOOOO AMAZING ALL THE TIME
ugh i wish i could edit like you
Great job as always!
What has always amazed me about this production is that they somehow managed (as far as I can tell) to obscure all the technical equipment despite the fact that there were rotating mirrors all over the stage. I always look hoping to spot a camera or a lighting rig or something. But all we ever see are the orchestra and the stage.
All those balls on the original scoreboard taking up space only to be ultimately used to show the top 4 in a fun way for a few seconds... genius
I agree, although I do like a bit of 'design for design's sake'! This must be the first and only musical scoreboard though!
That has to be one of the most dominant Eurovision wins ever, a 25 point lead with that system is huge
By percentage lead, this is the second biggest win behind Italy 1964
Thanks for adding the link to my blog!
Excellent job once again, I particularly like what you’ve done with the circles. The ones on the actual scoreboard were pretty useless, only used at the end. All that width added for not much use. It would have been sensible to have used them during the voting to update on who was leading, though I fear this may have been too much for the students!
Wow... I have to say that stylistically this might be your best scoreboard yet. I absolutely love it! The use of the circles and the rotating quadrants (?) plus the fonts... it was the perfect balance of prime late-60s imagery and modern sleekness and finesse. Quite wonderful - congratulations!
I just also wanted to say that I'm sorry I can't support you more on Ko-Fi. I'm on a somewhat limited income these days and can't donate as much as I'd like. If circumstances change, however, I'll contribute accordingly... :)
Ah thanks Chris, that's very kind. And please, don't worry about Ko-Fi...I hope you're following on it, you'll continue to see preview vids up there without continually donating. I hope all is well with you, I'm sure your circumstances will change soon enough! :-)
@@thereorderboard Thanks a lot. I've made a few donations to you on Ko-Fi before, but it only gives me preview access to your page for one month. After that, I can't see your videos. I always thought a donation to Ko-Fi allowed open-ended access to the creator's page, but apparently not. Just thought you'd like to know. :)
This is one of those contests where the scoring would be more fair on the 1-8/10/12 system. So many good songs, especially from Luxembourg, Portugal, Spain, Finland and Yugoslavia. But got relatively low marks cause it wasn't most of the juries favourites.
I’m glad that 🇬🇧 United Kingdom won here, a catchy song that stands out well in the field. Our second best victory (the first of course is 1997). I’ve a few songs I prefer here. 🇱🇺 Luxembourg (absolute classic) was my 67 winner until a few days earlier, until 🇲🇨 Monaco took over. A very different song, though Minouche’s vocal certainly suits this song which takes you on a proper journey! Honourable mention to 🇮🇪 Ireland; the best of their 60s ballads (though as we will see, not yet my favourite 60s Irish song).
You can see Udo Jürgens chatting up sandie shaw in the greenroom
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Poor Clifford Brown. What a nightmare scoreboard to manage. Apparently students from Vienna University were hired to operate the scoreboard. They were clearly having a laugh. If it's of any interest to anyone... Sandie Shaw's pink sparkly dress that she wore for Eurovision has just gone on display in the theatre galleries at the V&A museum in London.
Portugal's voting 'let's just give 1 point to most countries'
Another great effort! The white circles have a certain James Bond feel, which is really cool and the ReorderBoard complemented the actual scoreboard very nicely. I really liked Erica Vaal: despite all the cock-ups on the scoreboard (had the students been drinking??), she kept the show on the road. Not sure if it’s possible, but could I put in a request for some “flippy” scoreboard numbers for the next ReorderBoard, please, as they had on the real scoreboard in 1968 (and 1969)? Thanks for all your hard work! 👍
The split flap numbers, you mean? They make further appearances in 1972 and 1974 as well!
@@JeSuisRene That’s right! A classic Eurovision scoreboard design, haha! 👍😊
Don't worry Jez, I've spent my Friday night making them. Correct with the 10s updating before the single digits!
@@thereorderboard You absolute star, thank you! 😊👍
Incredible, I had not recognized Vicky Leandros! (who will win for Luxembourg in 1972) The Irishman has a famous voice. (from Rocker)
EURO GEEK TIME:
1967 seems a strange contest now given the 1960's pop plain stage design for 1966 and knowing as we do that colour would burst on the scene the following year.
Erica Vaal was clearly very nervous throughout the show especially having to talk in so many languages. She apologises to the people of Yugoslavia for not welcoming them in their language despite just after indeed repeating her opening remarks in Serbo-Croatian, the national language of Yugoslavia at the time. Her forgetfulness at the end in not calling up the Irish jury was later said to be due to exhaustion. She said she felt totally drained. She had a very success career on radio afterwards presenting a Latin American Music Show that ran for 25 years and became an expert in the history of Latin American music and its cultural significance. In later life she became a successful documentary photographer. She was 40 when she presented Eurovision.
Erica is the first presenter to repeat all the scores in two languages. In the past the presenter either translated the French to English only, or the English to French only or neither and just repeated what the spokesperson said. It was Clifford Brown who decided this should happen. Erica Vaal is one of the presenters we have sadly lost when she died in 2013 just shortly before Austria's second victory.
The rule saying half the jury members should be under 30 doesn't mean that exactly half should be. It means 'at least' half should be under 30. In fact, of the 170 jury members, 92 were under 30 and 19 were aged between 16-19.
The BBC do not hold originals of any of the contests it hosted or won in the 1960's or 1970's. The contests it does hold are copies obtained from the EBU or other countries. This despite the host country and winners holding the joint rights to contests pre 2003. The BBC continually deny they have any rights to any of the contests, even when the EBU tell them so. So trying to get the use of contest footage from the BBC is almost impossible.
They probably are relieved they don't hold a copy of Rolf Harris' commentary given his sex abuse convictions. Anyway, audience feedback at the time was poor about his commentary saying he talked far too much and was obviously 'over excited', [drunk possibly?]
Lots of people in the UK audience feedback complained that the revolving mirror gave them headaches.
This is the first time we have video from The Green Room. It is only the second time we see any green room, there is one photograph of 1964.
In the UK National Final Sandie sang 5 songs and an EP was released containing the losing 4 which reached Number 4 in the EP charts. Tell The Boys, which came second was a good hit for Sandie on the continent. Sandie recorded all the songs in French, German, Spanish and Italian.
Sandie's backing vocalists were The Ladybirds, Maggie Stredder, Gloria George & Barbara Moore, who sang on EVERYTHING in the 1960's and sang the live vocals on many Top of The Pops. The Ladybirds would return to Eurovision, with Ann Simmonds replacing Gloria George although George is often wrongly credited fro this performance, to sing backing vocals for Olivia Newton John in 1974.
There are a couple of colour photographs of the Spanish and Portuguese rehearsals. The only other colour photographs are of Sandie's reprise and of her and Udo at the scoreboard. there is a fabulous photograph that shows the hall during an orchestra rehearsal which shows how small the hall and set actually is. It looks much bigger on screen. You can't seem to attach photographs to TH-cam comments.
Sandie's microphone also failed when singing Puppet in the NF and she had to restart. It was later revealed that her manager, Eve Taylor, had paid a sound engineer to switch it off to draw attention to the song and make people sit up, It is thought this is what happened too in Vienna.
Denmark withdrew as their new head of light entertainment said the contest didn't reflect the criteria of providing suitable light entertainment for a Danish market.
My personal favourites were Finland, Portugal, Monaco and Sweden.
The contest didn't actually start until 10pm Vienna time. As the UK changed their clocks at a different time of the year in the 1960's, the time in Vienna was actually the same as in the UK.
1967 was also shown in Eastern Europe through Intermission brining to total viewing audience up to about 200 million. There were only 550 in the actual hall itself.
Luxembourg entry, L'Amour Est Bleu, would have worldwide success as an instrumental called Love Is Blue and reach Number 1 in the USA. Vicky would of course return and be triumphant in 1972.
Sandie toured a lot in Europe before the contest, she was well known there especially in France, although her popularity had been waining as it had in the UK. The songwriters sold the arrangement in the weeks up to the contest to numerous dance bands throughout Europe so people were not only hearing the song on the radio they were hearing it played at their local dance hall. This was really the first time a Eurovision entry had been so wildly promoted prior to the contest. Sandie always said she hated the song but did record a new version for her 60th Birthday. Sandie had many scandals in her life and her share of unhappiness and wasn't the easiest person to work with, and these all added to her career demise.
The Portuguese entry has become a standard in Portugal and been recorded by many people and groups up to the present day.
Iva Zannichi was originally to sing for Italy but she withdrew for personal reasons. Claudio Villa was her co-singer at Sanremo [at that time all songs were sung at Sanremo by 2 singers with different arrangements].
The songwriting winners of 1958, 1969 and 1965 all returned to try again.
The Irish Spokesperson was Gay Byrne who would go on to present many a Eurovision Irish NF on his Late Late Show. Ignore what it says on Wikipedia about the other Spokespersons, most of that is wrong and misleading.
Alongside presenter Erica Vaal, we have sadly lost Eduardo Nascimento of Portugal, Osten Warnerbring of Sweden, Fredi from Finland, Louis Neefs of Belgium, Minouche Barelli of Monaco, Caudio Villa of Italy and Sean Dunphy of Ireland.
Thanks for this treasure trove of info again! A couple of things jumped out, namely why Rolf was used once and not again...the audience feedback makes a lot of sense, of course I know the pre-selection went to Cilla's show in 1968. I expect he was a bit of a sharp change from David Jacobs for audiences, a lot of whom might not have tuned into the preselection.
The mic! That almost smacks of cheating! Clever though!
The start time also perplexed me. I realised in my edit that my video was longer than before, and I'd realised I'd not checked in with programme listings for while...I went on to the BBC's Genome project to look up the listings for April 1967 and saw some confusion. It was indeed listed at 10pm, but then it's been algorithmically listed at 8pm too (with a link to the BBC's Eurovision webpage). The listings state:
6:40pm The Monkees: Monkees in the Ring
7:05pm High Adventure: Wild Harvest
[erroneous 8pm listing]
8:35pm The Best of Benny Hill
9:20pm Harry Worth: Night Train to Nowhere
9:50pm News
10:00pm Eurovision Song Contest: Grand Prix 1967
11:45pm Match of the Day
The programme did run roughly to time (despite the mistakes in the voting) which is why they managed to get the rather lengthy 'goodbye' section in!
@@thereorderboard Thanks again.Well done on another excellent presentation.
Another couple of little bits and pieces of Geekdom.
The original proposed time for the contest was 9pm but the Central European countries wanted it later which is why 10pm was decided upon. Perhaps the confusion about the start time on some sites comes from the UK clock changes being different in 1967 from now and people just presume that a 10pm start time in Vienna would be an earlier time in the UK.
There were 2 trailers shown on the BBC on the day of the contest. One at 5.15pm for 50 seconds of Rolf Harris in the ballroom where the contest would take place, and another just before the Harry Worth show at 9.20 which was just 15 seconds long and showed Rolf and Sandie in a toy shop [probably looking at Puppets] in Vienna.
There are some photographs of Sandie having dinner with singer Adam Faith who had discovered her and remained her champion, the night before the contest. Although he isn't mentioned in the BBC delegation or travel arrangements, it is presumed that Adam travelled to Vienna to watch the contest.
Switzerland had recommended a change to the scoring in that every jury member instead of giving just one point should give 1,2,3 points to their top 3. These would then be added together to give a total mark for whichever country they were awarded too. So a country could have technically been awarded 30 points from a jury - 10 jury members X 3 points. How the Austrian students on ladders would have coped with that is a challenge to imagine. Luckily no one else thought this a good idea but the scoring would continue to be a well debated issue for years to come. Had the 1974 proposed system went ahead then Eurovision history would be very different, but we shall get the that when the time comes.
The orchestra had 45 members.
ITN archive holds footage of Sandie's return to London airport after her win.
Apparently Rolf chatted very animated and continually at the end after Sandie's reprise and talked over the top of Erica Vaal, even when she was speaking in English. This especially annoyed a lot of the viewing audience.
I love your rather faithful adaptation of the scoreboard here (minus the mistakes obviously), although the voting sequence was rather unexciting. I quite liked Erika Vaal - she was quite charming and her opening presentation in several languages was quite tasteful. I enjoyed her banter with Gay Byrne (the Irish spokesperson) when she almost left him out. I am also happy that you kept the cutaways into the green room because there seemed to be a nice vibe going on in there (obviously they were all relaxed knowing from early on that the UK would win handsomely). One thing: is it me or does Sandie seem unhappy with the attention that Udo Jurgens appears to be paying her throughout the voting?
From now on, I will be using the 12 points format when giving my votes:
1pt - Norway
2pt - Portugal
3pt - Switzerland (nice song but not great performance)
4pt - UK (a worthy winner due to Sandie's performance but I share her sentiments of the song)
5pt - Sweden
6pt - Germany
7pt - Spain: better than his 66 entry
8pt - Luxembourg
10pt - Finland: I just love this for its quirkiness
12pt - France: quite a lovely song and beautiful performer
Yes I wanted to comment that Udo was doing the classic 'I'm in on your success' move...a bit patronising. I don't think Udo reached Sandie's level of success but then I'm being awfully Anglo-centric again!
Now we go into the Wonderful world of Color Television!
Can't wait !!!!
Well I thought the scoreboard turned out pretty nicely! During the song presentation, I was wondering how those circles would've worked out, but I'm glad to see it put to good use in the voting! Though the actual situation was pretty anti-climatic; fortunately the hiccups were elsewhere on the board. #allora
For 1967, I thought it had a pretty nice location, though the song quality was just nice. With the exception of Switzerland, I thought this was the best year for the Francophone song-wise, as you will see next, though some other countries put in a few surprises here and there. I'm surprised by how much appeal "Puppet on a String" had, though it kind of made sense in the context for the future. It's a bit sad Erika didn't live long enough to learn more languages for the 2015 contest.
(Also, I'm so happy we're going into color next time!)
My top five (honorable mention to France, which has really grown on me!):
5. GER
4. PRT
3. ESP -- Again, Raphael delivers on his song with all his heart, though I find Hableamos del Amor a bit more sedate. It's still really casual and sweet, and is less repetitive than Yo soy aquel. If Spain would've won with one of his two entries, it would've been better than La la la...
2. LUX -- A definite classic here! I love the use of color to carry the song, and despite Vicky's accent, it flows quite well. I especially like the orchestral bridge in the middle; how would've this changed the contest had it won?
1. MCO -- But Boum Badaboum delivers on energy and bite, with Minouche wanting to enjoy her life before a nuclear disaster. The repetition, while a bit noisy at times, emphasizes the danger up ahead while at the same time adding a groovy feel to the song. The orchestra really helps too! Probably my favorite from the country.
Thanks for this comment - although I can't get on board with MCO lol, even though I think it's worthy of it's place in Eurovision history. I really rated Germany this year I think!
Hardly surprising French was so popular at this time. Loved the scoreboard. I was 1 at the time.
1967: History: Elsewhere in 1967, yet more Vietnam of course. The trail of Wilhelm Harster begins in Munich, accused of the murder of 82,856 Jews, including Anne Frank. His sentence? 15 years. There’s a bust up between the two large communist powers, China and the USSR which starts with demonstrations outside the Soviet embassy in Beijing. A few weeks after the Contest, Greece has a military coup which leads to a dictatorship that doesn’t end until 1974, despite an attempted counter-coup in December by the King. The UK and Ireland apply to join the EEC. The Beatles release Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, which dominates the charts throughout the summer of 67. In June the 6 Day War between Israel and Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Jordan kicks off ending in a UN mediated cease-fire after…six days. On June 25th, 400 million people tune into ‘Our World’, the first live international satellite television production - it features the debut of ‘All You Need Is Love’ by The Beatles. The EEC joins the ECSC and Euratom to form the European Communities, or the ‘EC’ in July. On the same day the BBC broadcasts a colour tv programme from the Wimbledon Championships, in December BBC 2 will be fully in colour. July 4th, homosexuality in the UK is decriminalised, which is helpful. The Abortion Act 1967 passes in October. In August, the first line up of Fleetwood Mac make their debut at the Windsor Jazz and Blues Festival. Part of the Swinging 60s dies, with the closure, by law, or Wonderful Radio London. Radio Caroline remained anchored off the UK coast but the Marine Broadcasting Offences Act aims to get it! Late in the year, the BBC would radically reform it’s radio offering, splitting the Light Programme (home of Eurovision) into Radio 1 and 2, with Radio 1 being more youth orientated.
Your comment that the BBC made its first colour broadcast during Wimbledon ‘67 will of course have an effect on the contest the following year with the move to colour.
Of course, colour photographs of the actual 1967 board show it was black and white, so a colour transmission from ORF would have made little impact to the 1967 scoreboard!
I did some research and couldn't find out why the 67 contest was delayed. I did find an article from the The Wicklow People in January 1967 that said the Irish entry had to have 'a distinct Irish flavour'. That would be why the lyrics refer to County Clare and 'turf smoke rising' no doubt...
Thanks for checking it out!
"If I Could Choose" was written by Wesley Burrows, script writer for "The Riordans " ,a rural Irish soap. He had other lyrics but had to change them for that "Distinct I😀rish flavour ". He did a parody lyric at the ridiculousness of it all , according to himself. However he realised he missed a trick when seeing Sandie Shaw's barefoot performance. Had he convinced Sean Dunphy to perform the song barefoot and pregnant the song would surely have won. " My lovely Horse " is only trotting in it's wake.
The voice of the host is perfect
If Wikipedia is correct, then we had lots of connections to previous contests among the spokespersons. The Dutch spokesperson was Corry Brokken (winner 1957, later host 1976), the French spokesperson was Andre Cleaveau (winner 1958) and Anaid Iplicjian (host 1957) was the German spokesperson. I can’t comment on Andre, but I’m pretty sure those are the voices of Corry and Anaid.
Yes that is André Claveau for sure.
Actually none of this is true, Wiki is as usual talking nonsense. The Dutch spokesperson was Ellen Blazer, The French spokesperson Jean-Claude Massoulier and the German spokesperson Karin Tietze Ludwig. This is on record at the EBU and ORF
@@nadirhajjour No its not as I say below.
@@riva1958 no, it is Andre Claveau and Corry Brokken giving the points. I do not know about Anaid
@@riva1958 Jean-Claude Massoulier gave the points in 1966 - different voice
the show must go on. good theme that year :)
Thank you from Austria 🇦🇹 ❤️
This video made me realise that Austria doesn’t like Ireland… in 1967 Erika missed Ireland in naming top countries AND in voting, and when the contest finally came back to Austria in 2015- Ireland got the 2nd spot in their SF which I think was known as the bad luck spot… yikes 😬
Tbf we were last to vote so Erica could have just been getting tired
This is stupid to say the word hate, Erika had made several errors in the show, including forgetting Ireland to vote, even Udo Jurgens thought it was over by trying to get Sandy Shaw to get out of her seat. As Gay had said..No trouble at all.
I like how they forced all the contestants to sit next to each other in the green room during the voting.
Ahhhhh me so happy I am gonna watch it now :)
I wonder why she says "Alleman" instead of "Allemagne"
My votes: (from 🇳🇱)
1 point for Belgium 🇧🇪
3 points for Norway 🇳🇴
5 points for the UK!!!! 🇬🇧
Fun to see a young Vicky Leandros, she really improved in those 5 years, didn't she? France and Spain really had beautiful songs. Monaco and Yugoslavia were good too. Love the Irish singers voice.
Thanks
Thanks for this. Your scoreboard ideas are inovated but still based on the original. I love to watch your videos. 1967. just like every year the best song did not win (according by music theory).
Thank you for comment! What's your winner?
@@thereorderboard Well I have several oppinions: as a journalist, as a someone who studied music, and as an ordinary citizen. So, I'll keep secret my opinion.
Almost no suspense at all when it comes to the actual voting, I mean UK in the lead by TWENTY points after only 6 countries voted (like Rybak leading by 50p in 2009 after only 8 countries voted), maybe it was good that they didn´t had a rearranged board, because it looked more close :)
The first host that actually got confused... Inspiration for Toto in 1991 🤣
Also in 1968
Toto wasn't confused in 1991, he just tried to make it all about him. 1991 is still regarded as the worst presented contest
I wonder if this is going to get a surge in viewers after it being referenced in tonight's (2 January 2022) episode of "Call the Midwife".
I (luckily) missed this...how does it reference it?
UK was really a runaway winner that year it seems
03:56 - Speaks Serbo-Croatian.
04:19 - Apologises to Yugoslav viewers for not speaking Serbo-Croatian.
Erica Vaal was addressing the viewers and listeners in the Soviet Union, in Russian. She did say „Lahko noč“ (“Good night”) in Slovene - the language of the Yugoslav entry - at the end of the programme 🙂
@@Aleksa_Milicevic - Ah, that’ll explain it then: I don’t speak either Serbo-Croatian or Russian, but recognise “dobre vecher” (apologies if spelled wrongly, but as I said...) from when the hosts go to the former Yugoslav countries for their points and therefore thought Vaal was speaking Serbo-Croatian.
15:42 SANDIE SHAW ♥️
For me, the top five ranking is logical and deserved. Spain makes me laugh presenting its "torero" every year. He is ridiculous.
as Terry wogan once said (or said multiple times) "There's just no accounting for taste in Eurovision."
I hope that when you do the 1969 one, you will use the comments of the TVE (Spanish television)
I love the 1968 and 1969 voting so much. 1967 was such a bore cause the winner was visible from the start LOL.
Jose Luis Uribarri's 1969 commentary is a good option. I wonder which commentary will be used for 1968...
By the way, there have been many behind the scenes programs shown on this channel (1964, 1998 or 1999), so how about an after-contest program for 1968? The Spanish jury celebrating right after the end of the 1968 contest: th-cam.com/video/013q9WteW1o/w-d-xo.html
@@EuroIntro 1964?
@@nadirhajjour The beginning of the 1964 reorderboard includes a behind the scenes video
@@EuroIntro oo that one. Yes thanks for sharing I know that one
What happened to the 1968 video? 😱😱😱
Ay the UK's first win, now we can't score more points than Sandie Shaw did to win
Edit: I'm from the UK 🇬🇧
The famous Austrian Punkte Massaker 🙈😂😂
Fredi would return with something quite a bit better in the Hague in 76
Yes I like pump pump
Hello thereorderboard Eurovision Monaco has backup singer or not?
It has two backup singers visible in the top left corner of the orchestra. It is two men holding guitars
47:49 I still don't understand what happened there.
The host almost forgot Ireland still needed to vote.
@@nadirhajjour But that caused that akward moment between Shaw and the man who appoached to her?
@@manuelbonilla7348 that is Udo Jürgens, winner of 1966. He also thought the voting was over but she was like "NO Ireland still needs to vote" he was very eager to give her the prize since he was the last winner
@@nadirhajjour Thanks for clearing me that doubt I had since I became Eurofan.
Only one step to colored Eurovision
pauvre Suisse 🙁
First!