Buying and Testing the NEW Mosca Locomotive in Railroads Online!
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- Hey everyone back with Railroads Online! Today Hyce and I are buying the NEW Mosca locomotive! Unfortunately I also let Hyce drive...
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If you haven't already, can you please ask this to Hyce in your next Railroads Online! video: I am a computer info systems major persuing a career as a freight and passenger train engineer, what should be my starting position before working my way to becoming an engineer?
Conductor is a starting point
Handy-Man/Repair trainee.
Inside a yellow / orange reflective jacket
According to your channel, you _really_ don't seem like a person who will be on a train(working on/at that train) anytime soon.
@@MergeMechanic one: the video on my "channel" was for a college class assignment and two: I dont make content
As someone who used the Mosca as the first engine after Betsy:
The Mosca handles up to 22 mph, but that doesn't mean that it stops accelerating at 22 mph.. It can literally go and go until it yeets itself from perfectly straight track.
hey, hey look at my pfp and look at yours, we are the same person acording to pfp's
I was going to say, Mosca can do 22mph and then Mosca gives very few Central Rio & Pacifics about what happens afterwards. I'm not sure if the Mosca better belongs on the C.R.&.P. or the E.S.&.D. because she pretty much is par for the course for both.
By this point in the series, I think the tagline should be "The number of drivers is only for adhesion" I can't recall how many times I've heard that already.
Locomotive number 8, named Crazy 8, pulling 8 cars... immediately lives up to its name! 🤣
And speaking of locomotive design being "let's try this and see what happens!", there are some truly fun ideas that people tried, most of them unsuccessful (thought not all of them just because they were necessarily bad ideas). Things like steam locomotives in Switzerland powered by electric heaters instead of burning coal. Locomotives in britain that could run on diesel or steam power or both, steam engines using incredibly high-pressure boilers (kaboom!), steam locomotives with the cab at the front or with the cab in the middle, steam turbine locomotives (whooshing noises), steam monorails (nani!?)... and even beyond steam power, you had crazy stuff like propeller-powered locomotives and jet-powered locomotives!
The rocket equation is BRUTAL. More payload needs more thrust, needs more fuel, is more weight, needs more thrust...
Iterate that a few times, and now you need thicker walls and engines to carry the fuel too...
More weight more thrust, more thrust more fuel, it's a mess of being lightweight and having a high thrust to weight ratio
Surprised Kan didn't ask Hyce about the BIG train derailment over by boarder to Ohio and polluted the ohio river that literally "just" happened.
I wanna hear his thoughts on it.
They film more than one episode per game session, probably when it was recorded it hadn't happened yet.
Only in Ohio, quite literally
If you watch Hyce's channel, you'll already know about his opinion about Ohio. At least railroads through Ohio and the CSXT. It's his video of 3/4ths of an idiot "How Drunk Was the Engineer?".
Kan and Hyce limit nearworld political discussions on this so they not make people too annoyed. That is where you have to go on their other videos for.
Yeah, but remember every time when either Hyce or Kan tries recording a vid for RO they need a good amount of storage space and stories to tell too, and plus just for bringing us loads of entertainment, from both ends of the stick, "Hint, hint," from Hyce & Kan's Sides recordings through the Stream of totally PAWsomeness Railroading expertise and advice on NOT to screw up in the real world of handling delicate relics; such as a 2.4.0 Miwache or a 4.4.0 Mogul, or go even bigger like the NYC 2.8.2 Dreyfus one of many famous Streamlined Steamies during the great Depression, and the middle of the 2nd World War, as with so many more like U.P C.R.G And Santa Fe Amtrak and so many more Railroad companies that had to deal with the toughest of times back in the 1980s and early 50s and so early on, but we need to also remember that the past always matters, for our ancestors, the ones who lived before us; well most of them probably didn't make it to see their golden years, but most likely some their future generations are still probably living the legacy of the once proud and important people that used to work endlessly on some of the most popular and dangerous corners of America and the other Countries.
So you guys better be thankful for your ancestors for giving you the life you have today, and use it very wisely; bc "A Human's Spark, one life that's all they've got..!" So keep praying to your Heavenly Father for the Life that He has Given You.
Working on the railroad can be a very disastrous and life threatening job and place, but unlike a video game, you can do pretty much whatever you want, with no limits, but there has to be safely measurements, you do have to apply by the Game Rules, or it's "Game Over!".
I know people don't like the in-app purchases, but hey whatcha gonna do about it? Just ignore those kinds of things, and go for the free ones: bc going free is better than being paid to do something that you don't want to do.
I'm Ella and It's Grow Time!!!!!!!!
This is why I run with a caboose always. If you look back and see the bright red car, you know you have your whole train. If you can't see the bright red caboose, you know you lost something.
For your next "Ask Hyce" segment, inquire if he has knowledge of Fireless Locomotives.
I asked about this about a month ago! Electric steam locomotives!
Also some that they don't have a boiler but a storage tank that they will hook up to a shop supply of air and "charge" it up that way and can run off that for a while. mostly for switching and stuff. no fumes, but short range.
@@pubbarian it is these type that I am talking about. although the short range isn't indicative of the full scope, some did loaded lumber hauling trips nearing 100 miles by themselves
@@CyberSpork No not electric, Just a big old tank of compressed air that is filled from an external compressor.
Fire Bricks!
Is it just my wife that likes the choo-choo shows from KAN and Hyce?
Or do other wifes perk up with the home heating system temps and psi at the start of the show?
Thanks for the time to make the shows KAN and Hyce.
I hope to be someone's wife someday, but hey, I'm here, I'm close enough.
Ask Hyce about two story outhouses. 🤣
I hope you're referring to the snow version of that 😆
@@pothoc1 wait, is there another version? 🤣🤣🤣
Management says the next engine is a Eureka, and is named "Lucky". :P
Thanks for the series guys, highlight of my YT feed when a new episode comes out
My suggestion for the switchbacks would be ramp them to 6%. To 30m of 1% 20m of 2% 20m of 3% 10m of 4% 10m of 5% and the last 10m at 6% for a total of an additional 100m ramping up to 6%. This would be added on to what you already have. This way you have more stopping power, you could let the train go a bit faster, and you could have a little more reliability on having the train roll back to the switch.
I was joking on Hyce's video that this particular one should have been titled, "Sir, where is my train?" doing a parody of "Dude, where's my car?" That's pretty much how this episode went, but I guess it might be, "Say there fella, where is my train, see!? M-yes!" all Vaudeville and what not. But if you REALLY want a Kenosha smelling 13, get the Cooke 2-6-0. That thing is stupidly top heavy to the point where it will just roll over like a rhino going around a curve less than 120 m in radius and going over 10 mph (or at least that's what it seems like.) If you want a reliable engine, get the 2-8-0. If you want a Kenosha train, get the 2-6-0.
I guess to simplify Hyce's explanation about Mosca's name; Mosca is to that specific train as Titanic is to a specific iceberg hugging oceanliner. Technically the Titanic was not a "Titanic" ship but a Olympic-Class Oceanliner christened with the name Titanic. The Mosca is the same thing. That engine is not a "Mosca Steam Locomotive" but is a Baldwin 2-8-0 model something or another (I don't know the specific catalogue number either) christened with the name Mosca. But in the game, they've used the names some of the trains that are endearing to them and others they've used the manufacture, common colloquial name, or a model/style name for them. Like Shay is a series of geared locomotives and the one currently in game isn't THE Shay or isn't the only model of Shay. But because Hyce started this, he has seen the Glenbrook, Eureka, Betsy, Montezuma, and he knows about the Mosca; so instead of "Train manufacturer, model name, number" he's gone with using those specific engines, or at least close enough replicas.
Steel Dynamics is one of the major rail suppliers in the US, their plant in Columbia City, Indiana has a cooling deck/building for rail that is around 1700' long. Edit: I want to add that the building was built over the rail cooling area to keep wildlife from being cooked as they cool "the area has over 100 lakes" and it took a few years of complaints about wildlife loss before they finally installed it, they literally roll out of the main building glowing red!
I’ll be at the EBT this weekend for the first official Steam Powered run. Looking forward to seeing 16 in action!
23:10 Falcon Heavy does NOT cross-feed the cores - they just run the outer cores hotter than the center then throttle the center up after detaching the outer cores.
26:25 “Surfing on a soundwave.”
Swinging through the stars? :P
33:38 you can even see that he didn’t rerail the hopper properly lol
Sending fuel from your outer stages to the inner stage is a cool efficiency gain but afaik falcon heavy is actually a bad example here since it doesn't do it. It just throttles back the core.
Correct. Made the same comment :)
15:54 very smooth transition!! 👌
The thing with aviation fuel is, the 1 kg of fuel you need for the last mile of flying has to be carried every thousand km before. Thats why you have such precise calculations to make when flying, including the needed fuel, fuel to reach a deveation airport, some buffer, some safety margin, etc. And that also is what makes it more expensive to fly. The more fuel you carry, the more safety margin you have, but the more the whole flight will cost because of the weight.
Also with the consumption, thats why you count the aviation consumption as kg/mile/person.
Takeoff vs landing weight is a huge problem for electric aircraft. It's literally been what's been holding them back, and the problem is only being solved now battery densities are going up. Normally, if a plane needs to land shortly after take-off, it'll need to dump most of the fuel to land, otherwise it just can't land.
the East Broad top railroad has 6 locomotives, most of them are 2-8-2. specifically they are Mikado's. the Mosca's seem to be either gone or they are show pieces that no longer get used. the last time that a steam engine was used at the EBT was 2011 and that was #15
I can't believe the lies that Hyce is spreading. Mosca's wheels are painted red so that they spin faster, obviously.
Also, the procedure that I would recommend for going down the 10%: Get yourself stationary on the crest, tie all the car brakes (but not the loco), use your helper to push the whole consist onto the 10%, then start loosening brakes from the back until the train starts moving, then get into the loco and add brakes as needed.
I grew up in the area and used to do track work for the East Broad Top. It really is quite an interesting operation.
If you guys haven't taken a ride on the Durango/Silverton, then make sure to make the time to do so.
Why did I get a mental image of kAN and Hyce at either end of a beer pong table filled with the quintessential red cups...
It maybe smelling like Kenosha, but it has an another smell associated with it...
Don't get me wrong, loved the episode but all the mentions of cups and Kenosha over all the colab episodes just correlated with that image...
Please help me and the others reading this comment with showing off kAN and Hyce's favorite custom paint job on anything trains and railroads related!
If there's any other guests on that particular episode, please add them to the question also!
Love these episodes with the split views, can't wait to see more!
Whilst I love trains, you cant beat ships in fuel per ton efficiency. They actually do something called "slow steaming", where they extend their voyage by a few days but the fuel per mile is drastically shorter.
I came here to mention barges, but my goodness, forgot about ships.
My dad retired from a steel mill in Pueblo, Colorado, it was called CF&I (Colorado Fuel & Iron Company, founded in 1892) then, but now is called Evraz... they've made rail since their founding
In this episode: kAN and Hyce explore the various reasons why 10% grade is bad.
This is definitely a podcast with RRO in the background and occasional game commentary.
The crazy thing about some aircraft is that the takeoff weight is actually more than the runway they are taking off on can handle on landing.
or the gear can handle on landing
25:36
Boiler pressure
Also, I got a Hyce question,
what happens when a derailment results in small fire that heats a tanker? Would they open the tanker and burn the contents to relieve pressure if it's something like vinyl chloride?
Follow-up, does he know about the East Palestine Ohio derailment?
Falcon Heavy doesn't transfer fuel from side boosters to the center one, but the center one runs at lower throttle so it runs for longer.
There were several 0-8-0's...not sure about 0-8-0T Tank Engines...at least in the US...Tank Engines weren't as popular over here as they were in the UK and Europe for pretty much that one meme...You can drive for 4 hours in North America and still be in the same part of the country and you might see one train station, while the UK will have you drive for 2, you will go through two accents, a new name from bread rolls, and you will see 4 train stations.
beautyfull how hyce said the year 1895 after the mario bit, in 1895 was a train crash (train crash of Montparnasse), great picture of it on google
the new train reminds me of the car from "Chitty-chitty Bang-bang"
Ask hyce about his foreign trains knowledge
The German "Baureihe 96" ... an 0-8-8-0 WITH BACKPACK TENDER
We just need a picture from the scene out of The aviator with Leonardo DiCaprio next to all the pee jars when he's going crazy and caption it "Kahn and Hyce after one day with the Mosca" lol
The rocket equation is interesting as it does strictly apply to every form of transit - imagine trying to take a steam train around the world, and transport all the fuel and water you're going to need, the majority of your power goes into pulling the water you need for pulling all the water.
It's also interesting to note that rockets only throttle down for the atmosphere, and actually throttle back up later in flight. This is because the faster they ascend, the less time they spend fighting gravity - if they went super super slow, all their energy would be lost fighting gravity.
Also, no real life rocket pumps fuel between the tanks, the extra complexity isn't worth it. The falcon heavy just runs the central core at lower power.
A lot of LNER (London North Eastern Railway) used red wheels on a fair few of their express loco e.g Mallard and at 14:37 in the uk 🇬🇧 our main manufacturer is Siemens and some others that aren’t as common.
I know the steel mill in Pueblo Co is upgrading the steel mill to produce 1/4 long rail segments at a time
As a funny question you can ask. Ask about what he thinks about the train on ice scene from the polar express and if there is any realism there.
Add the helper on the back to help with the braking on the 10%. It's what Norfolk Southern does on Horseshoe Curve in Altoona, PA. A set of helper with lash on the back (or mid train), and shove up the 2.5%. Then, they'll lash up to a train in Galltzen going down the curve to help.with the braking. Once in a while you will see a light power move if they are out of helpers on either end of the curve.
Tension breaking in this game has a tendency to throw their trains, which is why they usually use compression breaking instead. They tried doing tension based in a previous episode, and found it wasn't worth it.
I can't wait until they add the D&RGW T-12 Class 4-6-0 to the game (They have said it is planned in one of he Tech tree videos). One of the two survivors of the Class (R&RGW 168) was on static display in the park right in front of the Community College I went to, so I spent a lot of time sitting around the engine. After dropping out, I heard that they removed the engine to be restored to working condition...it was indirectly Hyce's Railroads Online Game Dev Hardcore series that led me to finding it again (They were talking about crazy ideas the D&RGW had for new locomotives, Led me to look, found 168), It's running tourist service on the Cumbres and Toltec for Special events.
Saw Hyce was coming to PA, had to check if it was the rails near myself but still a few hours
I'm sure someone has pointed this out and I'm sure you just misspoke, but planes don't burn 2 gallons of fuel taking off, it's more in the range of tons. A plane can burn a metric ton of fuel just to get to the runway. Maybe 2 gallons per foot of runway is more accurate.
fwiw, they didn’t actually implement core-to-core fuel transfer on the falcon heavy. the center core just doesn’t throttle as hard. that’s why it only burns for like one minute longer or something. it turns out in real life asparagus staging may or may not work out.
I feel like whenever you do a quote on quote commercial break you should do the advertising for Blue Coal. Similar to the old The Shadow radio broadcasts which were sponsored by Blue Coal.
Hey Kan, I have a question for hyce, has he heard that one of the first narrow gauge engines in Michigan is currently being restored to possible service?
Please ask Hyce about that time when all the engines got stuck on a mountain
You should just add lops to the switch Backes that way it's a 2% yet faster going up
Obviously your next loco needs to be "Lucky Thirteen"
If you want to talk about stupid wheel layouts ask Hyce about the Soviet 4-14-4....... I think that was the layout but I remember it had 14 drive wheels the thing was stupid.
KAN, you need to ask Hyce if he knows what happened in Crush, Texas in 1896
Smells like Kenosha
Edit: @kAnGaming - RE: Who makes rail? I actually noticed this late last year on my local subway, one of the manufacturers is SDI (Steel Dynamics in Indiana)
I just got home from work and seen this video posted. Gonna be a good night
Fun fact, mosca is the SECOND fastest train in the game, under the handcar, as the handcar doesn’t actually have a speed cap on a long enough track it can outspeed anything😂😂😂
Crazy 8. Nice reference to the incident
If it isn’t a reference, nice little coinkydink
Ask Hyce if he knows what the Heber Valley Railroad is. It's in Utah and goes between Heber City and Provo but now it only goes to Vivian Park.
Here in Melbourne, Metro have a sensor car that has ground penetrating radar to check ballast conditions and the like. My ex partner use to work for them and had a number of opportunities to do ride alongs.
I don’t know what you’re on about, the red and white wheels are badass, make it look a bit menacing
The caterpillar trains have a 3516c in them that is used to run the electric generator I’ve rebuilt some but none were for trains only rebuilt some for fracking trailers
Also, put the cups away. We're going to need the barrels for this episode.
I used to be a contracted security guard for a progress rail facility in ky
As I remember, the only thing more efficient than moving freight by train is moving freight by ship
Or could you ask Hyce: how do the doors on the bottom of hopper cars work?
Lots of steel mills like here in Manitoba lots of the rails comes from gerdau
32:42 back to its home :’)
what about the drunk bears mentioned a few epsiodes back? I don't think Hyce explained those yet.
I've been waiting for you to make another train video for months
Goofy idea, balloon track at end of each switch back continuous running? Probably a butt load of skybridge but ?
13:57 lets call it the back and forth route
Fyi, no operational rockets actually use asparagus staging 😅
Hey kan, i have a question for hyce. It's been bugging me for a while but is there a reason we rarely (if ever) see electronically operated valve gear given te advantages of control of steam and cost
Cool thing is the bigger the diesel engine. The more efficient it is, to a point.
Again, I'm disappointed that you didn't share the switchback build with us. Share your genius. Don't hord it...
I like how you called it the crazy 8 after the runnaway train
The reason trains of couplers is so the cars don't go flying down the mountains and hills and I thought KAN knew better than to not leave the cars uncoupled from the locomotive.
Ask hyce about high pressure steam locomotives such as the LMS fury or the LNER hush hush
You have Crazy 8 now you need Lucky 13
Question for Hyce since he brought up CAT made the diesel train who was the one of the big company that used them?
RO recently ate one of my hoppers, lol. Spent two hours looking for that thing
I've noticed as well with the Mosca that at random points the link and pins in a train pulled by it can just.....poof.....
I love this series
it looks like the Eureka
I may have found the BEST glitch! Sometimes when you order a locomotive you will get it for me this has happend 3 times to me I think it is a really cool glitch.
I wonder if throwing wood shavings has the same effect on steam locomotives as it does to the steam tractors.
how much dose rail road's online cost?
$34.99 USD
Why is the game so much?!?! It looks like a ton of fun, im an operating engineer as my day job, so i can relate most of my work. But with trains!!!
You should ask Hyce about forney locomotives
Should ask hyce about turboed steam engines
Build a fast route in the valley but make it like really stupid fast with super wide curves
Question for hyce. Have you played metro exidus and what do you think of the Tran in it ?
You’ll have to switch to the new RO! Logo now.
Yo kAN for your next "ask hyce" segment ask if he knows how they transport the locomotives?
Kan, barges on waterways can rival freight trains in terms of tonnage of cargo per gallon of fuel.
An iddy bitty tiny engine on a barge that weighs as much as 5-8 railway car loads is the epitome of fuel usage per weight, but the time it would take to move that weight is so long that it would be impractical in a time sensitive load.
The most efficient modes of transport are:
1. Pipeline. Nothing can beat it on liquid transport.
2. Ships. As big of a ship as possible without weight constraints.
3. Trains on rails. The least amount of friction is their strong card.
Yup. The issue is that we don't get to pick where waterways are (at least for cheap)
I thought the porter's and class 48's were saddle back instead of wagon back
after estensive mosca use ive found on normal track its fine for cars but on switches and crossovers cars tend to either go flying or derail 50/50 as to which
KAN!!!!!! YOUR STEAM SOUNDS!!!!
I think that railroad in PA is nearby me