Bruckner: 8. Sinfonie (2. Fassung) ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Paavo Järvi
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Anton Bruckner:
8. Sinfonie c-Moll
(2. Fassung)
(Auftritt) 00:00 ∙
I. Allegro moderato 00:35 ∙
II. Scherzo. Allegro moderato - Trio. Langsam - Scherzo 16:23 ∙
III. Adagio. Feierlich langsam; doch nicht schleppend 29:37 ∙
IV. Finale. Feierlich, nicht schnell 55:53 ∙
hr-Sinfonieorchester - Frankfurt Radio Symphony ∙
Paavo Järvi, Dirigent ∙
Alte Oper Frankfurt, 1. Oktober 2011 ∙
Website: www.hr-sinfonieorchester.de
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Top 5 greatest symphonies of all time.
The most underrated composer during his lifetime.Celibidache once said about him:"Who had this gift?Counterpoint, Phrasing, harmony progressions, who had that but Mozart or Bach?Purely technical things are like the cosmic cog that is missing, he may have found it, and then placed it accordingly. Who could be more profound than Bruckner? And yet it is always a new discovery."
200 th birthday of the genius on 4th September this year.
Bruckner 3, 4 and 5 will be performed in Chicago (sometime between August and November) which is going to be super exciting!
Multi dimensional Bruckner! So much clarities, considerable virtuosities, abundant beauties, deep romances, unfathomable philosophies, and universal immensities!! My great respect to Bruckner and these musicians!!!
Comfort and solemnity and gracefulness of this perfoming No8 are immeasurable profoud, and incomparably and beyond description
Bruckner’s symphonies will soothe and moisturize your parched soul
This work is a divine beauty! An excellent conductor and a beautiful orchestra. I am a big Bruckner fan, and his symphonies are really the greatest and the most supreme. Hats off to Anton Bruckner and his works!
Bruckner was essentially himself. He Put Into notes what He Heard in Nature and within himself. He did not Imitate Others.
Praise God. I have spent thousands of hours with Anton Bruckner, I almost feel as though we could be drinking buddies....and of this performance I have no complaint. As usual my soul is overwrought, tears of joy, screams of praise, and enriched beyond measure. Like the relatively contemporary song: touching my whole life....
Thousands of hours? Really?
@@jason101other if you listened to 3 bruckner pieces a week (based on the length of this piece), in 20 years you would have listened to 4160 hrs of bruckner
Maestro Paarvi is one of he great conductors. This orchestra is tops. The principal french horn, flute, oboe, the strings, all amongst the best in the world. We should cherish the time when we can enjoy their artistry.
Sorry, Paavo Jarvi is not even in the second rank of conductors. In his last few years, I'd have put Mariss Jansons in the second rank along with Riccardo Muti and perhaps Tilson Thomas. I'd put Jarvi in the third rank along with people like Andris Nelsons and Herbert Bloomstedt. Although the hr-sinfonieorchester is rising rapidly through the ranks, it has not yet caught the Wiener, the Concertgebouw, or the Chicago. Certainly the hr sinfonieorchester is as good if not better than any ensemble in France, Germany, or Spain. Perhaps it is on a par with the Bayerisches Staatsorchester and the Munich Phil.
@@Berto-bo7mr I could see you quite dislike Järvi, and I guess, just i guess, you like conductors like Celi, Kleiber, and as you mentioned the later Jansons right? To be honest, they are just with totally different (or even extreme opposite) conducting style, and conducting period. So I could see why you dislike Järvi, and i guess probably with sir Gardiner, and Neeme Järvi since their style of interpretation is kind of similar. But that doesn't work in this way, they just have opposite conducting style. You agree or not, Järvi is undoubtedly regarded as the top ranked conductor internationally, by audiences, conductors, orchestras, composers, academics, etc. Why not try to appreciate more? Remember Järvi's beethoven cycle with the DKB is generally regarded as the best beethoven cycle ever, by awards, festivals, critics, conductors themselves, etc.
Any of the Jarvis in the same breath as Furtwangler, Jochum, Walter, Klemperer? Absurd. Ted Vanya must hever have heard any other performances of this. Or any other conductors.
@@Berto-bo7mr I think that's your opinion = please stop trying to make it sound like fact.
You mean Samuel, Clara, Nicolas and Alejandro???
The majestic and solemn comfort of No. 8 is irreplaceable , and incomparable.
I am just intoxicated by this magnificent performance and great Bruckner‘s genius
Don't get carried away. Lol
@@shin-i-chikozima okay dumb ass. If it's boring, don't respond
동감함니다 이웅장한 음악을 조용히감상할수
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Thankyou
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Eine meiner absoluten Lieblingssinfonien
I really enjoyed this. I'm a Bruckner fan, and here one hears Anton Bruckner's high mastery of form and spirit. It's a stupendous symphony indeed.
Bruckner stands alone; there is no one in his category. His music is transcendent as is that of no one else except Bach. Also this is one of the very best orchestras and a superb conductor. Magnificent.
0:00:35 I. Allegro moderato
0:16:23 II. Scherzo. Allegro moderato - Trio. Langsam - Scherzo
0:29:37 III. Adagio. Feierlich langsam; doch nicht schleppend
0:55:53 IV. Finale. Feierlich, nicht schnell
0:00:35 Ⅰ. Allegro moderato
@Albert Cain big bs
Great Bruckner btw
Thnx. Surprisingly, their webmaster still not has discovered bookmarks, it seems.
@@jurigagarin5741 .
Superb Adagio! Beats most of the ones I've heard. If you don't know the meaning of "religious", this is it. Probably one of most emotionally charged, gut wrenching composition in all Bruckner's music. Unbelievably well played by the Frankfurt Radio symphony, definitely one of my favorites, along with Paavo Jarvi, a brilliant conductor. I have two recordings of this work, one by Karajan with the Wiener Phil. in which I really can't find any "soul" and another with Christoph von Dohnannyi and the Cleveland Orchestra which, up to now was my favorite. But this one beats them all hands down. And the filming, the sound, the recording, what can beat those. Thank you all for this monument.
1:09:19 A spectacular brass excerpt
That's the part we came here for :p
Why am I so in love with the adagio!
Wunderschöne und spannende Aufführung dieser großartigen und perfekt komponierten Sinfonie mit seidigen Tönen aller Streichinstrumente, milden Tönen aller Holzblasinstrumente und, vor allem, brillanten Tönen aller Blechblasinstrumente. Der letzte Satz klingt besonders spannend und echt überzeugend. Der unvergleichliche Dirigent leitet das ausgezeichnete Orchester im gut phrasierten Tempo und mit perfekt kontrollierter Dynamik. Schade, dass solch eine großartige Aufführung nie in der Coronavirus Krise angehört werden könnte!
the good old days of packed halls.
We must be allowed to return to what makes us so beautifully human, and if not, then we must demand it, in whatever form becomes necessary. Those in authority know the danger to their rule should they allow packed halls. One thing I do know, God wins!!!!
@@ablack7777 i'm in your walls
@@fartballz3966 lmao
Am I maybe the only one who becomes so moved by that prolonged dissonant chord at about 1:17:04 that leads to the magnificent conclusion? There is something about it, and I'm not sure what, maybe because it is a bidding of farewell to all the gut-wrenching beauty that has gone before...I know so many symphonies by so many composers, but this Eighth is in a different place in the Universe......
You are fortunate. It's a gift.
yep--you're the only one.
@@nedcrouch3202 figures….
Magnifico concierto! Muchas gracias por compartirlo. Espero que pronto podamos ver otra vez a toda la orquesta tocando junta en el escenario, es fantástico el sonido y lo echo de menos.
SMILES TO ALL OF YOU. YOUR MASTERS AND MASTERED THIS ONE. SO BEAUTIFULY. BRAVO BRAVO APPLAUSE. JUST GREAT SMILES
Thank you for sharing this.
1:34 epic entrance | 8:41 spiral | 8:55 achievement | 14:15 war | 17:04 celebration | 25:29 celebration | 35:12 sad
42:25 sad | 43:46 magical | 55:53 military | 59:46 wind down | 1:00:45 heart-warming | 1:01:40 energetic entrance
1:03:08 heart-warming | 1:05:50 epic entrance | 1:09:19 entrance | 1:14:38 transformation |
1:17:06 beginning of triumphant end | 1:17:24 triumph ending | 1:17:50 last note(s)
big THANKS !!
Great symphony, ❤
nice performance 👏
Gracias por subir esta interpretación magistral, no tengo capacidad técnica para decir cual es mejor versión, me guío por las emociones que experimento y en este caso son sublimes, el sonido calidad de imágenes son excelentes. Agradecido de esta Orquesta y su gran Director.
Try Celibidache version :)
Estupendo! Fenomenal! Bravo!
I am listening to symphony 8 today for the first time.
Was für ein wundervolles Orchester !!!!!
The primitive and brutal style of the score was very well understood by Paavo Järvi. Without mannerisms or preciousness that are out of place. It is a distortion to think that all classical music should be interpreted with ruffles, garlands and velvet. Bravo, Maestro.
"A symphony must be like the world. It must contain everything."
Gustav Mahler
I've been accustomed to the old maestos' rendition like that of Karl Böhm. Now with Mr. Järvi I feel a more fresh and burdenless spirit of the composer.
참 좋습니다(very good)!
パーヴォ指揮の超立派なﾌﾟﾙｯｸﾅｰでした。観客の満足感がわかります🌞
I'm taking to this more and more, partly because it is 20 mins shorter than Celi but also the orchestra seems so modern and fresh etc etc. Just glad Samuel (lead horn) and Clara (flute) decided to ditch their hairdos!
beautifully done. Bravo!
Immer wieder Danke für die herrlichen Aufführungen der wundervollen Symphonien des Meisters Bruckner!
Es ist ein großes Glück, diese Aufzeichnungen hier sehen zu dürfen!
Finale: marked "nicht schnell". Sorry but this sounds quite "schnell" to me.
First thought: sounds good and id say its open for interpretation.
After some time searchimg and listening for other recordimgs I habe to say that this extremely fast. Probably to fast
Quite schnell, indeed. 👎🏼
score tempo marking: 69 (minim)
Celibidache: 70 (minim)
Järvi: 105 (minim)
I think Paavo Jarvi is anti-Celibidache
From DKFJB007/AMDB9: Sadly, Many state-funded Orchs., esp. in Germany & central& eastern Europe,, are under acute pressure to allow more AIR TIME for sponsors, so naturally mammoth comps. like Br.'s 8th. suffer when they have to fit into allotted time slots. Sometimes this can be refreshing, after "machr Nicht zu schnell" becomes too obsessive, like in some of Celibidache's WINK-FEST BRUCKNER interpretations, IMHO.
What I really love? You can see the forces of the finale in 56:00 - look, how his stand is shaking!
i was wondering where did this video go
and you guys just reuploaded it
nice
Magistrale interpretazione bruckneriana. Direttore e orchestra.
Sensationell!
I'm going to say a controversial thing. Bruckner the godfather of minimalism in music... I'm not saying he set out to be minimiastic, but those traits exist in his music from time to time...
I suppose that would be controversial, but Beethoven got there first in works such as the late quartets and the arietta of the Op. 111 piano sonata. In them, there are moments where melody and motion cease. For that matter, the slow movement of Symphony No.7 is built on one note. 🐧
@@TheStockwell I agree...how about the crescendo in Beethoven 6 first movement, just into the development section. Almost copied to the pen by Bruckner, symphony 8: scherzo..
@@mr-wx3lv As FDR might've said, "I like the cut of your jib, Mr. Sneaky." I once gave a lecture about the Grosse Fuge. Someone later told me the best line was, "The Grosse Fuge is full of those minimalist passages in which Beethoven seems to believe that no music is the same as great music."
Thank you for giving me a break from the news of the day. You know: the annoying fury of American politics. Music is better than that - it lasts. It's getting me through the pandemic AND an automobile accident. Bach is a great help. I'm looking forward to getting back to photographing and painting the local (northern Vermont) landscapes and to the churches being open, again.
Have a safe and wonderful year. 🐧
You are absolutely right. But his great pupil, in musical terms, Sibelius, is even more involved in minimalistic patterns and structures. Take for example his tone poems, such as En Saga, Bard and Tapiola.
@@mr-wx3lv There can be no doubt that Anton's favorite composer was Ludwig. With Richard and his tuba-love coming in a close #2.
Merci beaucoup à tous
Nicht schnell, Maestro Järvi...
Before anyone comments about social distancing : this is from 2011.
I miss Paavo
I've always wondered how they would socially distance large scale works. You can't physically spread out 100 players across the stage easily.
Some time in a far away future we will all be able to listen to Bruckner live again. Hopefully! Bruckner, Mahler and Strauss and other composers of late romantic music did not think about social distancing while writing their music. What a pity!
Good Times.
I miss seeing that many people's faces
Muito bom.
아 !
감동입니다
가을 밤하늘을 수놓는데
부족함이 없습니다
특히 관현악의 울림이 나를
사로잡습니다. 아 ! 가을입니다
트롯신
Idk why but the low brass parts of the 4th movement just gives me vibes of imperial March on steroids
absolutely. listen to stravinskys rite of spring if you want to hear what was probably the main "influence" on williams score, he cribs from it pretty blatantly imo
This is a great symphony, in a fine performance. My favorite performances on record are those by Carl Schuricht, and Herbert Von Karajan (either with the Berlin Phil. or the Philharmonia).
Ever heard of Celibidache?
Yes, but I haven't heard his performance of this work.
It's certainly fast when compared to Celi but interesting, nonetheless. I love this orchestra.
Well, not only to Celi. One can really doubt, if the Järvi's 4th movement is really "NICHT SCHNELL".
In little more than an hour, Bruckner created the entire universe out of nothing; all its elements shining in divine music.
Glorious!
Glorious
Escucho a Bruckner y me digo:
La vida es infinita
El mundo es infinito
El alma es infinita !!!
We are using the beginning of the finale in our marching show this year.
Score, music & conduction are incomparable. Frankfort leads!
Vibrant, primitive amazing music
This is most certainly a very fine orchestra. Would love to hear them under Andres's baton just to check a hunch or two - e.g. would he be a bit slower?
Perfect.
잘 듣고 갑니다.
17:25 ❤️
Magnifica.
I wish some day to see a performance
live performances can be so great. It's hit and miss for sure. And so many distractions can occur versus you sitting at home listening to the best of the best recordings on TH-cam, using high fidelity over-the-ear studio headphones. But it can be electric and amazing like no other thing to witness the live musicians performing their craft and achieving great success under the baton of a skilled conductor in a superior hall with great acoustics. A cherished memory for sure, and I have several (mostly at Davies Hall in San Francisco, CA, but several others in various venues - sometimes the performance shines so brightly that the acoustical properties of the room are not as important as they otherwise would be with a less inspired performance)
They really can’t wait a fricking second to start the applause…
Bruckner, la perfección...
凄く木管が浮かび上がってる‼️
who is playing first trumpet?
👌
I think the speed of this video is incorrect. We listeners have to change the speed to x0.75.
The final page...too fast!
It's right there written clear as day. Nicht Schnell. Celibidache is the only one I've heard who did it correctly.
why is it sped up?
-Bruckner came back from the grave to conduct this-
it should be his favourite organ
Is the sound of this harp a whisper of an angel？
Is this heroic melody a sign of God‘s coming？
No. It's just great music.
It does sound like that.
@@remomazzetti8757
Thankyou
I hope you are well
@@harryhagan5937
Thankyou
I hope you are well
@@shin-i-chikozima I am, thanks. Hope you are, as well.
What part of "Nicht Schnell" dont people understand. Celibidache was the only one who got the finale right.
Absolutely! Maestro Celibidache was the only one!
1:09:20
He conducts as a train conductor.
It's not the first time I hear someone take the Scherzo this fast. But I find it unconvincing every time. It's "Allegro moderato". That is anything but a moderato...
Yes I get the movement can get a bit manic when played slower, but I think that is kind of the point.
And then the same with the opening of the Finale "NOT FAST" is what Bruckner writes. This IS fast and exactly what Bruckner did NOT want.
I see the Adagio as a love story or a dream!
But this dream is fought with trouble and it seems nothing can save it from the tragic outcome that ensues.
Before that happens a mad spree of hope happens in a loud crescendo!
A coda follow s
in the form of a solemn lament much like harking back to the best time s in slow rememberance on Wagner tubas
This story shall never be again but will not be forgotten
That's it to a T
24:36 game of thrones start
32:01
Paavo, immuable et notre Clara toute "jeunette".
I love Clara but not this hairstyle.
I could hardly hear the strings in the coda which I think is very important and also rather rushed I think.
3 last chords... Ehhh... Wish it were played at a much slower tempo
so were the violins, they finished after the rest of the orchestra
55:52
Batman theme xD
Notes: 00:32:12
1:08:05 Does anyone else hear a voice saying "bum bum bum bum bum..."?
Can't really tell who but it might be Järvi
Sorry, this is Time Beating. he has no concept a la Celibidache....
Scherzo = Game of Thrones
Das Finale ist viel zu schnell und hektisch. So viele Details gehen dadurch verloren. Schade.
6:00
21:00
Hi. How are you? . Since Corona, ordinary daily life is more precious than ever. Now that it's winter, I hope there's no more damage.
2019年7月30日
井上道義が語るブルックナー＆交響曲第8番
www.kawasaki-sym-hall.jp/blog/?p=11903
Before I saw this MV, I read above, which Japanese Maestro Inoue wrote.
I think he looks like Maestro in this MV, especially his hairstyle makes me think so.
Mr. Bruckner's masterpiece makes me euphoric.
I also read the explanation of this masterpiece below.
I am fascinated by the pictures of wonderful architectural building below, immersing myself in the world view.
I listened this masterpiece with the other screens of TH-cam playing at the same time that was image or picture of the universe and nature.
There was no human figure there.
I felt as if I was surrounded by the primitive beauty of the universe.
This MV is just a recording of the year of the Great East Japan Earthquake.
I felt that in the greatness of nature the existence of human beings is nothing more than a tiny thing.
I think human swearing makes me feel that the real world is ugly.
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59:54 like mahler
This guy thinks he is Harry Potter, but waving the buttom doesn't mean creating magic here.
1:12:28 Nn Finale
It just happens every time they have to speed up that final lift to the summit.....for God's sake keep the tempo consistent. Only Celibidache manages it.
Master Pärvi, could you please leave the room not later than 9.30 pm, there will be a meeting of our local ornithologists' group afterwards
Why you would refer to a 'maestro' as 'master' is interesting. Are you his slave? And why you make such a mess of his name means one of two things: you have no eye for detail or you wish to be childishly contemptuous. Paavo Järvi is not the maestro I immediately go to but I like to hear a different interpretation so I can see what it is I like in it and in other ones. The Japanese conductors are good for these distinctions showing how cultural bias plays such an important part. You may or may not be young, but I suggest you try a more intellectual pursuit than attempting jokes which only I got. Leave ornithology to the birds.
The pitch is right but I can't shake the feeling this is sped up.
Es
"Don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing."
This sentence is like a veteran carpenter's hand skills
and a performer who plays both hand instruments, (such as piano and guitar)
If the head orders-
You have to divide the use of your right hand and left hand separately.
It means don't do it in a symmetrical way.
It means not to mix or skip each use.
(including all two-handed instruments, farmers, fishermen, soldiers, tailor, hairdressers, boxers, etc.)
When you work, when you eat, when you breast-feed your baby.
And the structure of the sentence-
writing down the thoughts in your head and reading and speaking them are not symmetrical.)
Imagine you're holding a tool.
First of all, the right hand-
Apply force to the tool and use it at the 'right' point.
But you don't use it for the 'wrong' point. and then you relax.
And the left hand must point to a place where the use of the right hand is better,
But if the direction is wrong, you have to fix it.
The result of using both hands differently to help each other:
The carpenter's work is intact.
The guitarist makes a natural sound.
The right hand should not apply force to 'useless place'
The left hand should not be directed 'where you don't know'.
->The carpenter will make a wrong work,
The performer will play "dissonance."
There is no one who doesn't feel dissonance
The uncomfortable chair is uncomfortable.
Logical Design of Human Intelligence:
The power of the right is obtained in the right place, and not in the wrong place.
The left's wish is to head for a better place, but to be honest.
It's 'different' and also 'together', so it is-'As one'.
This 'Pureness' can be seen in your 'body' and 'mind'.
You prove it yourself.
Also, when there is dirt in your mind,
With the "eye" of the truth that we've realized,
You can see it.
I also confess.
I looked at the world based on materialism so,
Many parts of me were against the truth.
Now I can see the shape of our minds.
It naturally makes sense why humans, unlike other animals,
have been able to achieve the present civilization.
The "selfishness" of a human being with the tools of knowledge and information
It's the instinct that no one can deny.
It is necessary for the life and satisfaction of individuals and families
But the current society has become informative and anonymous.
People don't handle inputs with their own hands on online
People don't have to face the result offline.
Everyone is making money and excreting their emotions without having to face each other.
It's full of insensitive antisocial profit-seeking, extreme need for show-off and content addiction.
The space that harms others who don't even know their faces is growing in everyone's mind.
But never get me wrong. Never!
It's not about stopping or not using tools.
for a long time,
in two pairs of axles: Right leg-left arm//
left leg-right arm=X&Ypositioning
We've been using tools to use both hands separately and together and help each other harmoniously.
So we can develop the left and right brains respectively,
We've reached our present intelligence.
Whether or not our own selfishness has stepped on the line can be felt with our own minds.
You can manage wisely so that day-to-day developed tools can be used in a beneficial way.
If someone's selfishness is endless, we can stop it together.
We can discuss how to become a better society,
and the public can easily spread the moment when justice collapses.
I hope you wake up.
Sooner or later, due to rapid changes in the global environment,
All kinds of crises can come.
And for a long time, there are people in the world who follow unnatural intelligence.
They have a spirit that has become symmetrical with only one axis. (like a bird)
If you take after them for the survival of a few,
It must be a retrogression of the intelligence and ethics that mankind has achieved.
Let's always check the facts on our own to prepare for a crisis.
Let's not leave our intelligence to any particular person, group, media, religion and scripture, special notions, symbols.
If there are reasonable suspicions, let's take a look and develop our ability to suspect
and withhold-judge with diverse knowledge and information.
Let's look into both 'truth' and 'selfishness' and let the truth control the selfishness.
It's not about being a strict instrument player and scolding a clumsy player.
Let's not criticize and hate each other by using fundamental moral principles.
Let's thank the truth and conscience are breathing in us.
If people all around the world join together in ethical and intellectual forces,
we can overcome the crisis and move on to the future.
Please send this message to the world (regardless of the source)
I emphasize again.
See the "Truth" from "Self"! (not others)
Thank you, everyone.
WTF???
Mr Kim might find his comments reasonable in Korea perhaps, but those who saw this wonder about the sanity of his mind. A total waste of time for a normal reader.
@@leslieackerman4189 i think he's just saying that, like the body has several components that work together in harmony, so should society. its pretty reasonable, he just doesnt have the best grasp on english