I pulled my crushing hammers and maxed the dark patch. Ditched the skwovet for Roaring Moon EX, the rad Kazam for rad ninja. And added the single prize hangar from PAF for the free swapping.
When reading through the booklet the thing recommended unfezant as a supporting Pokémon! With gapejaw bog/damage pump you can get it evolved and attacking as long as you get it energy and then start bouncing two energy to hand as an attack forcing them to reattach.
@@jeremyrennerpornotruth wdym? It is so early I don't think anyone has the best 60 cards to run for this deck. And this deck will probably fluctuate with the meta.
Gengar EX needs more, it can't be a control deck while requiring energy acceleration. Its a clunky deck and loses to fast paced decks. It loses vs set up decks because it requires so much. Not running 4 rare candies in this list is suicide.@@icephoenix174
I saw somebody else who added the Switch Gengar to this deck. If the opponent tries to gust or Snorlax up a dead active, it swaps it back to the bench. If you’re concerned about Control specifically, the Poltergeist Gengar can ruin their lives.
Even though they forfeited, the last Giovanni's Charisma in that first game wasn't needed, since Gengar could move that energy to Iron Crown. Love this deck idea.
I use team star grunt in this deck, and it's very disruptive, robbing them of a draw and forcing them to reattach. I've found I like it better than Giovanni's Charisma.
This needs a good one prize attacker. The new pidove/unfeasant synergizes, so does dark lokix. Play Gengar while you can. Greninja EX is going to be a hard counter and very prevalent soon.
Ive encountered a gengar ex player in live, unfortunately he lost against my great tusk mill due to disacarding too many useful items in his deck. He manage to KO my mew ex as a consolation
Within a minute? SHEEEESH. Id recommend trying a 1/1 darkrai vstar line since that can cause maximum disruption. Just a thought, and can also be used as a more heavy hitter attacker, sort of.
I was mystified when they say they are putting Enamorus V in the starter decks, wondering what it is good for, Iron Valiant maybe ? Ok, now Enamorus V is maybe good against Gengar ex's Ability 😅
A deck that I think really got better after rotation is gholdengo, now that path is gone and with that new future supporter that lets you stack your deck to draw into them with gholdengo. really fun deck and funny that you can almost always get prime catcher and superieor energy retrieval to win the game.
Is there anything that counters it? My brother built this deck specifically to beat me. I use dark charizards and he has a card that he puts in place that takes no damage from ex or v cards. The poison is fucking me hard.
you do not have to move the energy cards from their active pokemon if you dont want to. you moved it off of lumineon and i was like "but why"..same for when you kill them..just dont give them free energy.
started playing this. what in the inconsistency? every match up has been bad. i get stuck with all basics by turn 6 and cant get anything going. bib never comes online, skwovet is just bench space. I am getting heated with how bad this is performing. its too slow, cant play a deck that gets going on turn 20. I have gotten 1 gengar going in 6 games, and it was a waste of a turn. cool concept, deck sucks. only win I had was against another deck that took 10 turns to happen
Please be aware before you might try great tusk mill, it's bugged so it only mills 1 card if your deck is empty even if you played an ancient supporter so you don't win if you sada down to zero and they have 3 cards left
I’ve been playing a siczor ex and altaria ex, basically you use the new siczor as a tank while healing it with altaria heal 20 damage per turn per altaria siczor 70 damage attack prevents 50 hp from next attack pair it with the new metal lab and ridged band and your countering 110 damage which doesn’t let charizard one shot and you get to heal after pretty good imo
While fun and meme'y this deck is wildy inconsistent. Meta is faster than ever and if you get hand locked for even 1 turn its pretty much GG. The meta has moved fast and allows for set up disruption. Issue with this deck is it requires a stage 2. Stage 2 mains are inferior unless you're zard EX. Removing the amount of RNG as possible is what makes decks go the distance. I wish Gengar EX was good, but on the surface, your energy acceleration is still to slow compared to other decks.
I want this deck to work so bad but I feel it's missing too much to push it to the next level. It's fun for sure, but not viable enough to be competitive.
Tbh ive tried Gengar EX, Inciniroar (however you spell that crap) & Lugia Vstar. Keep losing loads of games without even any missplays. Just end up with a bad starting hand 70% of the time and don't recover. These decks are a joke.
that require a lot of set up, and by playing gengar wich is a stage 2 , it will take some slots for candies wich reduce the amount of switch cards that valiant needs
Mill decks should not be in PTCG, they suck, they do the game slow and boring and theres no combat between Pokemon which is the main part of the game, 2 Pokemon against each other, not a Pokemon against your library, this sux
I have every Gengar ever printed, has been my favourite pokemon ever since I pulled that holo spooky boi from fossil
Even masaki one? That shit is damn rare man
I pulled my crushing hammers and maxed the dark patch. Ditched the skwovet for Roaring Moon EX, the rad Kazam for rad ninja. And added the single prize hangar from PAF for the free swapping.
When reading through the booklet the thing recommended unfezant as a supporting Pokémon! With gapejaw bog/damage pump you can get it evolved and attacking as long as you get it energy and then start bouncing two energy to hand as an attack forcing them to reattach.
That could actually work run a couple double turbo energies and use unfeazant as a single prizer to move the energy
If Gengars ability affected energy attachment from any source this deck would work so much better
This card would have been OP if that was the case
There’s too much OP energy attachment mechanics in the format right now. Charizard, future Miraidon come to mind
Watching all those gengar losses live was certainly a experience
Gengar sadly kinda mid
Have the deck myself, it's kinda slow. But I've won a good bit with it, I mostly make people concede lol. But when it loses it loses BADLY
Yes I have some really bad losses but still fun to pull off. Definitely needs something more
Maybe Darkrai V Star, hammers and Dark Patch could help Gengar
It's definitely not good lol
I hope people keep experimenting with this. It looks like such a fun concept and i doubt we have the ideal 60 for it.
the ideal 60 is a different deck
@@jeremyrennerpornotruth wdym? It is so early I don't think anyone has the best 60 cards to run for this deck. And this deck will probably fluctuate with the meta.
Gengar EX needs more, it can't be a control deck while requiring energy acceleration. Its a clunky deck and loses to fast paced decks. It loses vs set up decks because it requires so much. Not running 4 rare candies in this list is suicide.@@icephoenix174
i've seen at least 3 different versions of Gengar EX so far so yeah, might need to wait and see how it gets optimized
I paired it with Kingambit and started getting OHKOs
Oh how I wish Gengar's Ability did not say "from their hand"!!!
I saw somebody else who added the Switch Gengar to this deck. If the opponent tries to gust or Snorlax up a dead active, it swaps it back to the bench.
If you’re concerned about Control specifically, the Poltergeist Gengar can ruin their lives.
Nah, against normal Control it works, but against Pidgeot Snorlax they look for Lost City and ko it.
Laughed out loud when you said GIGA CHILLIN 😂 love that one!
I made this deck but with a dudunsparce engine and dark patch and it actually works pretty good.
interesting so the idea to attach before you use the ability and then move it back onto the bench with patches?
Even though they forfeited, the last Giovanni's Charisma in that first game wasn't needed, since Gengar could move that energy to Iron Crown. Love this deck idea.
It really is! Went against someone online that managed to get 3 Gengar ex on the bench and I couldn’t do anything 😢
I use team star grunt in this deck, and it's very disruptive, robbing them of a draw and forcing them to reattach. I've found I like it better than Giovanni's Charisma.
Giovanni is basically the same thing + energy acceleration which Gengar desperately needs
This needs a good one prize attacker. The new pidove/unfeasant synergizes, so does dark lokix.
Play Gengar while you can. Greninja EX is going to be a hard counter and very prevalent soon.
I think Popsicle Knight used Neo Upper Energy in his video on Gengar
Trash 🗑 🗑 🗑 🗑 🗑
I like that too i mean all the ace specs are feasible tbh
Idk if I'll be making this one but...I did pull the full art from my box which is cool.
Ive encountered a gengar ex player in live, unfortunately he lost against my great tusk mill due to disacarding too many useful items in his deck.
He manage to KO my mew ex as a consolation
I also recommend a team star grunt as it removes energy from play, and by putting it on top of the deck, kinda forces a semi brick turn
Nah giovanni is nicer cause its energy acceleration too
I was going to build a deck based on Gengar to combat Chien Pao and Iron hands decks
since gengar ex is about damage spread, what about combining it with vespiquen ex?
the spiked helmet tool thing that puts an energy back into hand frok opponent attacks could be helpful, if its not rotated
It's called "Rugged Helmet" and it has rotated
@@GreenMonkeySam damn. that would be big for this.
Yeah rotated i looked it up too when building this
I made my own gengar list, but it's kinda inconsistent. Then I made a scovillain one and that was awesome lol
could you fit the PF gengar in the deck to help against mill and control?
Yeahh
Man I want to see gengar succeed lol
Same here
You need baby gengar to never get blocked by anything ever and it makes boss and counter catcher and any gust useless
I came here to say this. I think this is a great idea. 😎
Within a minute? SHEEEESH.
Id recommend trying a 1/1 darkrai vstar line since that can cause maximum disruption. Just a thought, and can also be used as a more heavy hitter attacker, sort of.
Or, adding hoopa ex as well since you wont be removing energy if you dont use a hammer build
Kinda excited to see what you cook
lol this deck is already inconsistent enough
I was mystified when they say they are putting Enamorus V in the starter decks, wondering what it is good for, Iron Valiant maybe ? Ok, now Enamorus V is maybe good against Gengar ex's Ability 😅
You truly are the Master!!!! Thanks for this!!!
A deck that I think really got better after rotation is gholdengo, now that path is gone and with that new future supporter that lets you stack your deck to draw into them with gholdengo. really fun deck and funny that you can almost always get prime catcher and superieor energy retrieval to win the game.
You can also run Master ball, all the non-future/ancient aspects are viable options
Masterbsll is definitely the weakest tho
Honestly I’m not sure what everyone else is experiencing, this deck single handedly carried me into ultra from great league.
JUST REALIZED THAT YOUR VOICE IS THE SAME TO GTA 5 LESTER. Just kindin, big love
Do you have an import code for the decks you've played?
This affects energy attached with Bax ya?
its odd to not see anybody playing raging bolt ex in ladder that deck has a really good time against future box and gengar for that matter.
I think it's time for Magnezone Ex to shine ..everybody forgot about him but he is killer for this rotation
Gengar ex? Seems this is to replace the last gengar from fusion strike.
Heck, I made a mew ex deck to replace the fusion strike mew.
Could gengar mix with espathra ex?
I guess
i saw people evolves Gengar from Gastly HP40 without rare candy.
i don't know what happen bug maybe ??
How do you beat the deck tho?
Also how do you plan on dealing with cards like manaphy that won’t allow you todo damage to benched pokemon?
Manaphy protects damage from attacks so it does nothing against Gengars ability.
Manaphy doesnt matter
Is there anything that counters it? My brother built this deck specifically to beat me. I use dark charizards and he has a card that he puts in place that takes no damage from ex or v cards. The poison is fucking me hard.
Espathra ex plus gengar would go hard
Here me out, perhaps trying a Spidops + Gengar deck?
There is a bug with great tusk if they have no cards in deck they only mill one learned that the hard way
Gender MURDERS lax block. I just got four in a row into ultra league with gengar vs stall every time. It was great
Do you think calamitous snowy mountain would synergize with this deck?
Maybe but its useless vs non basic decks thats why league headquarters overall is better
What about pairing it with brute bonnet?
Nah
Love this deck! One of the very fun ones 😆
Gengar EX is pretty good but getting it all set up is such a pain. Played liked 6 or 7 games and only won once 😂😂
Do you think greninja and gengar ex have any compatibility to be in the same deck?
Nah
you do not have to move the energy cards from their active pokemon if you dont want to. you moved it off of lumineon and i was like "but why"..same for when you kill them..just dont give them free energy.
I would have put all their energy on skwovet so they couldn't rod for it lol
Why no boss ability gengar?
started playing this. what in the inconsistency? every match up has been bad. i get stuck with all basics by turn 6 and cant get anything going. bib never comes online, skwovet is just bench space. I am getting heated with how bad this is performing. its too slow, cant play a deck that gets going on turn 20. I have gotten 1 gengar going in 6 games, and it was a waste of a turn. cool concept, deck sucks. only win I had was against another deck that took 10 turns to happen
Nice music choice!
Awesome Man!
I love how disruptive the new set is 😂😂
PTCGL put up Gengar but Skwovet was the MVP of the 2nd match for sure
Please be aware before you might try great tusk mill, it's bugged so it only mills 1 card if your deck is empty even if you played an ancient supporter so you don't win if you sada down to zero and they have 3 cards left
Do Enamorus V work against Gengar ex ? 🤔
Nope
@@LittleDarkFury No ? Sure, Gengar ex will knock it out, but the wording seems to indicate its Ability will stop Gengar ex's Ability 😅
This deck better going first or second? Also Gengar best mon!
ayee I was waiting for this..
I am disappointed, you should hace included that extremely epic, fun and fast game versus Snorlax in your stream! 😂😂
That game was nearly 30 mins this video would be too long :P
The arm throw lets goo!
I really want to see a new Revaroom ex deck.
Maybe fit a Hoopa ex in the deck will be cool 😂
I’ve been playing a siczor ex and altaria ex, basically you use the new siczor as a tank while healing it with altaria heal 20 damage per turn per altaria siczor 70 damage attack prevents 50 hp from next attack pair it with the new metal lab and ridged band and your countering 110 damage which doesn’t let charizard one shot and you get to heal after pretty good imo
I beat this same gengar deck with this siczor deck it was close 1 to 1 prize but I won 😂 love the gengar concept tho very annoying to play against
@blakepeebles2953 I've tried something similar with copperajah radiant tsareena metang ...quite dangerous when it sets up
I just played against this deck and the person ran eri and when it whiffed they rage quit
Actually… my list is totally different lol. Just noticed. It’s fantastic though really.
First time playing against gengar i was shockedd when my manaphy got damage but good thing charizard ex gets energy without consequence and ko gengars
Read or memorize cards before u put manaphy or jirachi into play, u might end up wasting a spot in ur bench
Why switch and not switch cart?
Because switch cart only switches your active basic Pokemon so he can't switch Bibarel and Gengar with it.
@@linuslindroth9030 doesn't say anything about basic pokemon
Switch cart is basics only
@@linuslindroth9030 my bad, glanced over the Basic after active 🤦♂️
LIKE GOAL GANG
🙏 🔥
Btw, I play with hoopa ex late game which is why I think it’s better
While fun and meme'y this deck is wildy inconsistent. Meta is faster than ever and if you get hand locked for even 1 turn its pretty much GG. The meta has moved fast and allows for set up disruption. Issue with this deck is it requires a stage 2. Stage 2 mains are inferior unless you're zard EX. Removing the amount of RNG as possible is what makes decks go the distance. I wish Gengar EX was good, but on the surface, your energy acceleration is still to slow compared to other decks.
Gengar alt art 🔥
I want this deck to work so bad but I feel it's missing too much to push it to the next level. It's fun for sure, but not viable enough to be competitive.
80% of the time i have to mulligan xD something is odd with this deck
Tbh ive tried Gengar EX, Inciniroar (however you spell that crap) & Lugia Vstar. Keep losing loads of games without even any missplays. Just end up with a bad starting hand 70% of the time and don't recover. These decks are a joke.
problem of this game in general is bad developing and cant do good shufling , or laging make you doenst want to paly
Wish this deck worked but it's just......not there
Isn’t that too complicated??
Nope
How about Gengar Valiant? Throw in Xatu and Dark Patch, maybe?
that require a lot of set up, and by playing gengar wich is a stage 2 , it will take some slots for candies wich reduce the amount of switch cards that valiant needs
This kids noodle arms make me want to lift weights.
bring farigiraf ex pls
This deck is hot garbage lol
I also disagree with how and why youre playing the cards. Not the list itself.
I hate decks like this
Mill decks should not be in PTCG, they suck, they do the game slow and boring and theres no combat between Pokemon which is the main part of the game, 2 Pokemon against each other, not a Pokemon against your library, this sux
Is this bad deck Tuesday? 😂🎉 jk 😅
Nahhhh
This list is a little not as mean.
Day 250 of asking for a gardy/drifloon/bravery charm deck
Bro how would this even work...Bravery only works on basics
@@mistacnote5972 drifloon is a basic