Color Analysis Controversy: Discover Why & When Hair Color Should Be Your Focus In Color Analysis!

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  • @sarah_i_loenneberga
    @sarah_i_loenneberga 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    First of all - I totally get the idea, that’s all fine for women who actually do have hair.
    I don’t and I don’t have eyebrows either. No pity please, I’ve lost my hair due to alopecia and it has become my new normal. And I’m definitely not alone on this earth proudly walking around as a woman with my bald head and missing eyebrows (oh and lashes as well btw). I’d really love to see a color analysis (attempt?!) with a real bald woman on your channel. No need for AI here, we proudly exist ✌️❤

  • @cathwalsh9921
    @cathwalsh9921 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Regarding undertone/overtone… I look rather yellow, yet warm colours don’t look good. So to the eye I might look yellow, but I’m not warm, I’m cool. When I put cool colours on, you can tell that they harmonise with my skin. Some springs can look quite pink, yet cool colours don’t work for them. Some people have rosacea which would make them look pinker in patches, but they might not be cool. Of course you’ll know that because it’s your job anyway.
    I wouldn’t go for a system that uses hair for the simple reason that you can drastically change your hair from what it naturally is. Not so your skin. If I dyed my hair a colour which was alien to my colouring,, I’d then be having to adjust my makeup etc in order to ‘fit in’, rather than work with what I actually am. I’d then by buying clothes in colours that weren’t really ‘me’, in order to have a hair colour. I can see the point for someone who can’t cope with not colouring their hair differently and frequently, or for actresses, but if your goal is to look like what you naturally are but as good as you can, I think analysing to skin is the best way. Just my personal opinion.

    • @BlueBird8925
      @BlueBird8925 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I agree.

    • @cosmicalchemist8219
      @cosmicalchemist8219 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I think so too.

    • @Ivannacrashalot
      @Ivannacrashalot 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I agree. My mother is greying but she is still a soft autumn. I have had blonde hair, red hair, brown hair, and I always suited the same colours the best. Other colours never all of a sudden started to suit me.

    • @Dani-lc9hq
      @Dani-lc9hq 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Exactly! My skin is the same!!

    • @Xana_K
      @Xana_K 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I think this is what is confusing me about hair. If I had warmer hair than my skin it would still look unflattering, the skin and hair would clash, I can't change my skin but I can change my hair. So skin is relatively important.
      I feel like by the logic in the video we can simply select our favourite season buy those colours and artificially make ourselves into anything. But that doesn't seem right.

  • @emileeirwin1981
    @emileeirwin1981 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    I appreciate your method so much. I was listening to a lot of those skin-tone-only color analysts here on TH-cam before and I was never more confused. Every time I thought I saw what I thought the people in their videos looked good in based on photos I was wrong. I could also never identify myself in those systems. Not only is it crazy to think we want to continue to wear colors to correspond with a way we no longer look, but it perpetuates the idea that only people trained in a specific color analysis method can tell us what looks good on us. It's simply absurd that normal people can't know what looks good on them. If that were the case how would we even know it looked good at all?! It's like color gaslighting! 😂 Thanks to you both for your content!

    • @rosanilebron1566
      @rosanilebron1566 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Color gaslighting!!! 😅😅😅 Your comment is exactly how I felt watching other people on TH-cam. Also, when theybput a white piece of fabric on their heads. Makes no sense at all.

    • @helahreljac1523
      @helahreljac1523 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I absolutely agree with you. At the beginning I loved the idea of color analysis but at this point it's hard to watch most of the videos. The worst thing is lack of common sense in the comment section..a lot of people give up their own judgement just becuse someone else tells them what's good for them! Color analysis shoud be a tool,not a dogma.

  • @mvh5661
    @mvh5661 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    I don't totally agree that you can make any hair color work for any skin tone. My skin tone is really cool, and I think that a warm hair color looks off on me.

    • @ColorClassInc
      @ColorClassInc  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You're totally right that would look off that's why we would recommend using a faux tan or using warming drops in your foundation.

    • @mvh5661
      @mvh5661 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@ColorClassIncI don't wear makeup... It doesn't agree very well with my sensitive skin. Plus I am way too lazy to wear makeup unless it's a special occasion.

    • @BlessYourHeart254
      @BlessYourHeart254 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agree-I don’t wear makeup all the time because I’m 60 and just DGAF anymore. For me, my skin was the big variable as it distinguished between me being a True Spring and a True Autumn. I have dark olive green eyes, but Autumn tones are mostly a bit heavy for my very light, peachy skin. So my warm skin was my dominant characteristic. This could be different with different people. I do like that my Spring colors make me not have to wear makeup to compensate for anything. This to me is the big reason I got my colors done to begin with-to look my best. That said, my hair is colored in a warm tone, but this may change when I let it go gray at some point.

  • @MariaSCarr
    @MariaSCarr 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    This is exactly why I really like this method. I have had every hair color on the spectrum through my life. I’ve learned that as long as I adjust my makeup and clothes, I can get away with it.

  • @rosanilebron1566
    @rosanilebron1566 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Thanks again for your insights. As a 53 years old woman who decided to stop dyeing her hair, I can totally agree with both of you. Now that my hair is lighter than when I used to dye it, I somewhat shifted inside the same season. I haven't changed from one season to another yet, but now I need a kick of color to look fresh and vibrant. Otherwise, I look overall greyish.

    • @BlessYourHeart254
      @BlessYourHeart254 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I’m 60, a brown-haired Spring who will probably have to soften my colors when I go gray, BUT within the Spring palette, or maybe stray into Soft Autumn a bit. My skin tone has not changed with time-I’ve always been warm-toned and continue to be very warm. I can crib a very few summery tones like plum and rose. I don’t wear much makeup, and would rather mute the clothing if gray hair necessitates it.

  • @Ann-wv2ti
    @Ann-wv2ti 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Seasonal colors never made sense to me until I started watching your channel. Seasons changing due to hair color, etc changes makes logical sense. The 6 palette system was what finally made it all click in my mind; especially when you talked about the soft attribute. Thank you for creating and sharing these videos. ❤

  • @arwenmoon9815
    @arwenmoon9815 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It makes perfect sense until you get an analysis in person. My hair was covered during the process. The coloured drapes reflected their colour onto my face and showed how bad warm colours looked on my skin. My cool pink skin became orange and dirty. Online I was typed as an Autumn by Carol Brailey because she did the same thing in trusting the effects of photography when matching colours. You need the fabric present with you physically to see the full effects and you will never be the same because the experience is profound. I had mine done in the Korean System and I came out as a Bright Summer Cool. I already knew that I can not wear any warm hair colours as I become jaundice and very dirty looking. So changing your hair does affect your undertone. You can’t change your season. Sure I could match my clothes to my hair and look less attractive by trying to control what nature knows best.

  • @lynnfox8376
    @lynnfox8376 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Over the years I have become lighter and cooler than I was. My hair is lightish slightly warm neutral, as is my skin. Twice hairdressers have mistakenly put a cool darker rinse on my hair and I looked really ill no matter what makeup or clothes I tried. I also tried red hair when I was younger and a warmer spring, but it looked off. I can't wear some colours I used to and don't think dying my hair to it's old colour would work as the colours would now be too warm and bright for my skin, and eyes.

  • @cassiaaguilar7708
    @cassiaaguilar7708 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I think the reason other color analysts ignore hair is because so many people dye their hair so there’s an assumption that the person will change their hair color to suit their skin

  • @FrostyFreya
    @FrostyFreya 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It’s just so logical to take all into the account. Also, I’m pretty sure undertone / overtone are the same thing, it’s just the skin colour and the pigmentation that is in it. I do believe that our “season “ or rather the colours that look best on us change if we change the hair colour or we tan.

    • @thinkbig5438
      @thinkbig5438 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I have neutral overtone = the foundations I wear are neutral. But everything that is remotely warm will turn orange on me. Because my undertone is cool only.

    • @FrostyFreya
      @FrostyFreya 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@thinkbig5438. It’s really good you have it figured out. I am exactly the same and I have heard it means I am a cool skin tone but since all skin tones are on a spectrum, I must be close to the middle rather than on a far end of cool. I’ve heard most people are somewhat neutral only slightly leaning cool or warm yet we are always either cool or warm. Sharing as I find it interesting and useful.

  • @twigs2727
    @twigs2727 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    i would really love it if you could do a video on olive skin and where we green people live for seasons! i have a hard time knowing where i fall because im super pale olive. if you have one let me know, i couldnt find one on your channel when i looked but i may be mistaken.

  • @ozbolder
    @ozbolder 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I love that you take in the whole person in the now. I want to look good where I am right now not at 20. Also I have long hair and I feel like not taking it into consideration is missing a big part of my personal image.

  • @nataliesirota2611
    @nataliesirota2611 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    As someone who covers my hair, I have wondered about this very fact. However, I do wear natural bows, so that gives me direction. Also, my haircolor and eye color have dramatically changed as I have aged and post menopause.

  • @corinasucre
    @corinasucre 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You ladies look amazing with these soft and light colors. Amazing video btw!

  • @nataliebroussard8275
    @nataliebroussard8275 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You guys are my favorite channel I found this year. ❤️

  • @mirandaosmelak480
    @mirandaosmelak480 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I would not agree that this woman can wear any hair colour. She looks significantly better in warmer colours and especially the winter colouring really weights her down.

    • @mirandaosmelak480
      @mirandaosmelak480 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Saying that, I do like most of your points on changing seasons and considering hair. But I do think that there are certain hair colours that will just work for people better than others and it is dependant on the skin and eye colour and the brightness of both.

    • @ColorClassInc
      @ColorClassInc  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're right we would have to alter her brows and lip color to bring contrast back to hear face.

  • @Vestica-y5v
    @Vestica-y5v 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You are answering my questions before I even ask them 😂 I was thinking recently about people with warm golden blonde and green/hazel golden eyes being typed as cool summers. Visualy it doesn't look quite right to me but people believes every person with "certificate". I really love that you are thinking outside the box.

  • @Houseofgamine
    @Houseofgamine 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    On this subject I realize I lean towards skin only for season but I think within that season your hair color can affect best colors. For example when my hair is natural it is noticeably brown with natural highlights, color variations and I realize I enjoy a bit less contrast but when I dye my hair single process dark brown I enjoy a higher level of contrast. I’ve been blond, red, brown and nearly black but all in all, my true winter palette always looked the best although the colors within the palette and combinations varied for my taste.

  • @MaryYoungblood-xy8vg
    @MaryYoungblood-xy8vg 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Even if we are in the same season, sometimes we align different as we age. At age 20 I was on border between warm and clear spring and now warm and soft spring. Warm still works best but my second and third features have definitely changed.

  • @YamIa3gypsy
    @YamIa3gypsy 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Makes perfect sense to me. Thanks!

  • @seaspiritinme
    @seaspiritinme 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Well.... I still don't look good in red hair. So skin has to be part of it. And I don't necessarily have the skin tone of your AI lady or Reese Witherspoon.
    I do agree natural hair colour can be part of it too.

  • @AnnaFouquet-p2i
    @AnnaFouquet-p2i 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    According to you, the undertone doesn't matter, only the overtone of the skin? Could you clarify this point ? Thanks a lot 🙏

  • @cafefay
    @cafefay 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great topic! I was dark brunette, I colored my hair for 5 years, and it always ended up getting that orange tone even though I did ash brown. I decided to stop coloring my hair 10 yrs ago, best decision ever. Now, my salt and pepper hair is a perfect compliment to my cool skin tone, grey brown eyes, and coordinates perfect with my brows.

  • @ChaoticAuthenticity
    @ChaoticAuthenticity 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Reese Witherspoon played June Carter in Walk The Line.

    • @User-2cents
      @User-2cents 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My niece was the young girl in Walk the Line.

  • @michelehonore3343
    @michelehonore3343 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love this! Glad I learned this from you years ago. This philosophy has helped me to better analyze my clients based on the now.

  • @laurenbuckley5496
    @laurenbuckley5496 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Are these new glasses on you, Lucinda? They look so beautiful and harmonious on you! Also fyi the audio is a little quiet even when I have my speakers up all the way :)

  • @laurarivera1992
    @laurarivera1992 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As a 61 year old woman I have an olive skin tone. This is hard to have an olive under tone.

  • @christigallup2175
    @christigallup2175 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I personally think the hair is huge. I like your methods way better.

  • @JP-zf4rx
    @JP-zf4rx 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Can I be an au-sum before going gray? I am a soft summer but I can carry off olive green and other autumn colours.

  • @rebeccaw1772
    @rebeccaw1772 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Spot on ladies, I shifted from golden blonde to brown with golden highlights and now it’s like an ashy brown with minimal golden highlights and white hairs popping up so I am so confused lol❤

  • @CarenLinn
    @CarenLinn 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    But my hair is lightened. Naturally I have nearly black hair, pale neutral skin, warmish brown eyes. Was typed Dark Winter twice. IDK I could be Dark Autum easily too,

  • @meganbisek5805
    @meganbisek5805 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have absolutly white blonde brows! And dark blonde hair!

  • @karisheets2323
    @karisheets2323 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was an Autumn, now I am a Soft Winter!

  • @lieslforbes6631
    @lieslforbes6631 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    You don’t go by the skin tone. You go by different colors’ effects on the skin. You have to drape (or use virtual backgrounds) and then compare what the skin looked like. Yes, you do remove the hair. Anything not natural. Beautiful people can look good in any color, but what makes them shine? You lose me on this one. (A good analyst would not tell someone to dye their hair.)

  • @akmamabear2258
    @akmamabear2258 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Okay how Reeses hair looks for Autumn 🍂 is exactly what I want lol its looking too dull brown again... Driving me crazy and I'm not ready to transition to a summer. 😂❤ how do I get this look at the salon yall? What do I ask for?

  • @cosmicalchemist8219
    @cosmicalchemist8219 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s interesting that you’re going by the palms of your hands. I know that is usually the lightest part of the skin, but I’ve noticed that we usually don’t tan on the palms of our hands, so I’m wondering how the sun changes them.

  • @ellaraystyle
    @ellaraystyle 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is why I don´t operate in the seasonal analysis. The categories of seasons are just wrong. All 8 billion color types are based on Root Skin Colors - that dictate hair and eye colors AND your best colors. This method is so much more accurate because it is based on science.

  • @rhop9320
    @rhop9320 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's ok if you're leaning neutral but some celebs look awful when they've dyed hair. This is because they are very cool or warm. If true season e.g.winter, the person looks awful with golden blond hair therefore bad in very warm colours as well.

  • @tracie6837
    @tracie6837 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you guys talk about the makeup you are wearing? … or provide it in the description notes

  • @gamergirlmars
    @gamergirlmars 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    you forgot to remove the eyebrows lol!

  • @janetleight8788
    @janetleight8788 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    That blue 💙 is too cool for your skin tone .

  • @gobyfish1399
    @gobyfish1399 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Your model looks like the non binary actress from Deadpool and Wolverine.

  • @sestricaanutka
    @sestricaanutka 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    So, you are sitting there both in muted colours and telling us that you are not the neighbouring seasons? It is known, that a soft autumn with time would shift to soft summer, because you become cooler and lighter as you age. So I don't see a problem there, where you see it. A bad colour analysis is a bad colour analysis. Colour analysis is about the natural colour. However the question that I cannot answer to myself till today, is a colour analysis approach suitable for grey hair at all? Or for women of colour? Maybe not. I cannot see how someone like me (bright spring) can pull off grey (muted, light, cool) hair colour. Btw, you have to do smith about your sound, it's extremely weak...

    • @Daiseehead
      @Daiseehead 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As a WOC, the only time color analysis has worked for me is in person. Online every.single.person typed me as an autumn, which now I know looks horrific. My skin is golden, so I understand it’s not obvious how cool I am. I was beginning to wonder if I am that ugly 😢Once I had it done in person, it was clear that all of the winter colors suited me, from bright (which many repeatedly associate only with light skin/dark hair), dark, to various “whites.” Silvers look wayyy better than gold, which saddens me because I like gold.

    • @BlueBird8925
      @BlueBird8925 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I hear you. I’m in a similar situation. I’m a True Autumn but if I let my natural colour grow out, it’s 95% white. I look awful in white (and gray). I’ve heard a number of colour analysts say the toughest transition to gray/white is if you’re an Autumn and I can see that for my situation. I believe hair colour can be a factor but it’s not the primary determining one. For now I’m ignoring the problem 😃 by continuing to colour my hair a warm medium brown, which looks great on me.

    • @thinkbig5438
      @thinkbig5438 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      There is inclusive color analysis. Good example is the Korea. There is a whole industry and most non-inclusive systems would put anyone they see as „Asian“ into winter. It’s about finding someone whose eyes are trained in seeing color in different ethnicities.

    • @sestricaanutka
      @sestricaanutka 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @thinkbig5438 agree, however the video was about hair colour, and as Asians in your example have all almost exactly the same hair and eye colour, they according to the described principle would all be winters.

    • @thinkbig5438
      @thinkbig5438 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ yep, that‘s what I mean with inclusivity. And I find many of the different systems struggle with describing feature that „make you“ season xyz. It’s more about does your coloring tend to be more deep, more soft, more cool,…. and you need a trained I to see that „for your ethnicity“. That‘s normal by the way, we need to see a lot of different people from one erhnicity that our brain can see the differences. It’s not that easy.

  • @christigallup2175
    @christigallup2175 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    She looks like an alien..😂

    • @ColorClassInc
      @ColorClassInc  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank goodness she is an AI creation- otherwise she’d be hurt.