If you are anticipating using tents frequently in extreme wind conditions, then your choice of tent is slim and heavy. We have just completed a tramp using a Hilleberg Anjan 3 (yellow label / 3 season / 1.9kg) on Stewart Island NZ, Tin Range. We got pinned for 41 hours in 45 knot, gusting 55 plus winds with heavy rain. The tent was set toe to wind (contrary to Hilleberg rec's) and we had no fly/inner problems as the fly was trying to balloon. Early AM 1 peg ripped out and we bent the larger pole at the front, but saved it with quick re-guying and added double guys in opposing direction, with rocks on all pegs. We stayed dry and the tent survived with no failures or appreciable wear, except a bent pole section. We do not seek out these conditions, but the southern ocean climate this spring is very changeable, so we are more than happy and highly recommend Hilleberg tents for when you might get caught out.
Having lived on a remote Orkney Island for 12 yrs and experienced wind speeds most years 80 to 110mph. There will be no temporary shelter that can handle wind driven rain when it gets up to 80 plus mph.
After all the tent kept you well and save, even in that raging storm. Maybe it would help to put the guy line in a slightly different angle the next time, to avoid abrasion?
That's some great information, Alistair. Thanks for sharing. What are you using these days? I also had issues with a red label tent (in terms of the guyline threads tearing out in high winds). I switched to a black label.
I think i’ll have to watch the guys on mine now and angle away from pole sleves a bit, also live in pymouth so on moors quite a bit to lol, but to be fair do dry weather camping if forcast ok lol
That is really more a cosmetic issue than any structural harm to the tent. If there was no pole-tube there at all the tent will still function fine. If you want to repair it that will be a really simple fix with some SeamGrip over the hole. Do it while standing, with some sticky tape around the pole at the point of the hole. 8hrs to cure then just remove the pole.
Sorry. I really wanted to.I could not get my phone charged during covid lockdown. I live in tents so rely on solar charge or pubs. It did really well out there.
Was the tent set so that the vestibule was facing into the wind? Or was the wind so strong it was pulling the water/rain back around the tent poles into the flap?
Hilleberg recommends facing the Nallo vestibule into the wind because it helps keep the sleeping area more stable and stops the foot end being pushed in, but, throw rain into the mix like this, and yeah I'd pitch mine foot end into the wind to avoid rain getting driven into the zip. Seems like a simple enough fix as long as the wind doesn't change
So rule one....pitch with the toe into the wind. Problem solved. Your fault not the tents. 70 mph winds in what is only a 3 season tent and your complaining????? Hard man to please. You could use some tent patches as rubbing strips.
@@mojaslovenija9903 70mph winds are associated with a major weather event that you would know was coming. Unless its a cyclone you can predict the wind direction. The usual 10 to 20 knot winds would be no problem in most tents.
@@timphoto83ec The place i come from is with normal 100 km/h... check "Vipava valley wind". In the Alps the weather and wind directions changes quickly. I am not familiar for the Great Britain islands but I suppose it isas you mentioned.
Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t hilleberg suggest pitching it with rear of tent facing into the wind
front into the wind, say hilleberg
If you are anticipating using tents frequently in extreme wind conditions, then your choice of tent is slim and heavy. We have just completed a tramp using a Hilleberg Anjan 3 (yellow label / 3 season / 1.9kg) on Stewart Island NZ, Tin Range. We got pinned for 41 hours in 45 knot, gusting 55 plus winds with heavy rain. The tent was set toe to wind (contrary to Hilleberg rec's) and we had no fly/inner problems as the fly was trying to balloon. Early AM 1 peg ripped out and we bent the larger pole at the front, but saved it with quick re-guying and added double guys in opposing direction, with rocks on all pegs. We stayed dry and the tent survived with no failures or appreciable wear, except a bent pole section. We do not seek out these conditions, but the southern ocean climate this spring is very changeable, so we are more than happy and highly recommend Hilleberg tents for when you might get caught out.
Using the guy-lines diagonal would have prevented the friction wear and tear. Thnx for the vid!
But the middle pole is recommended to be at 90 degrees. Also the other poles if the wind is from the side.
Pretty sure it wouldn’t matter what tent you had in those conditions.
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Having lived on a remote Orkney Island for 12 yrs and experienced wind speeds most years 80 to 110mph. There will be no temporary shelter that can handle wind driven rain when it gets up to 80 plus mph.
have you tried Hilleberg black label?
Your primary issue was pitching in the wrong direction to the wind, which when you get extreme conditions really matters.
Yep, the zip flap is definitely designed to have the tent faced with the vestibule downwind. Do that and you'll have no water seepage.
The Nammatj 2 is meant to be pitched front INTO the wind. Pretty sure that applies to other Hillebergs too.
After all the tent kept you well and save, even in that raging storm. Maybe it would help to put the guy line in a slightly different angle the next time, to avoid abrasion?
yeah it was clearly in the wrong angle.
Pitch the tent the opposite way and it will fix the zip problem
Exactly!
That's some great information, Alistair. Thanks for sharing. What are you using these days? I also had issues with a red label tent (in terms of the guyline threads tearing out in high winds). I switched to a black label.
I think i’ll have to watch the guys on mine now and angle away from pole sleves a bit, also live in pymouth so on moors quite a bit to lol, but to be fair do dry weather camping if forcast ok lol
That is really more a cosmetic issue than any structural harm to the tent. If there was no pole-tube there at all the tent will still function fine. If you want to repair it that will be a really simple fix with some SeamGrip over the hole. Do it while standing, with some sticky tape around the pole at the point of the hole. 8hrs to cure then just remove the pole.
the pole tube is the only way the tent is connected to the pole (apart from small fittings at the ground. don't understand your comment.
Great videos, great channel
Alot of what you said was inauduble due to the wind
Good to see that weakness exposed. A small piece of black duct tape on the sleeve to stop it would be justified. Thanks for the video.
Or a ridge of Sugru.
Its been 3 months can we see the nammatj im dying to see it in action
Sorry. I really wanted to.I could not get my phone charged during covid lockdown. I live in tents so rely on solar charge or pubs.
It did really well out there.
@@alistairgranda8169 You live in tents? No fixed address?
Was the tent set so that the vestibule was facing into the wind? Or was the wind so strong it was pulling the water/rain back around the tent poles into the flap?
Just saw the previous vid. Looks like the tent was pitched 180 degrees the wrong way.
Hilleberg recommends facing the Nallo vestibule into the wind because it helps keep the sleeping area more stable and stops the foot end being pushed in, but, throw rain into the mix like this, and yeah I'd pitch mine foot end into the wind to avoid rain getting driven into the zip. Seems like a simple enough fix as long as the wind doesn't change
I have a same problem from Anjan GT！ Water come from zipper !
Do u spend alot of times in the tent?
Send it back to hilliberg they probably want to look at it for a test case
What ? of how not to pitch a tent?
If you are just as "good" at pitching a tent, as you are recording in soft winds, it does´nt matter what tent you use.
lol any tent wud have leaked
So rule one....pitch with the toe into the wind. Problem solved. Your fault not the tents. 70 mph winds in what is only a 3 season tent and your complaining????? Hard man to please. You could use some tent patches as rubbing strips.
But wind changes directions during the night, usually... that's why I use hexagonal shaped tents when, being safe even with 180 km/h wind gust.
@@mojaslovenija9903 70mph winds are associated with a major weather event that you would know was coming. Unless its a cyclone you can predict the wind direction. The usual 10 to 20 knot winds would be no problem in most tents.
@@timphoto83ec The place i come from is with normal 100 km/h... check "Vipava valley wind". In the Alps the weather and wind directions changes quickly. I am not familiar for the Great Britain islands but I suppose it isas you mentioned.
@@mojaslovenija9903 Yep well not the right design for your area. I think of this one as being just for general camping.
Nallo 2GT and 3GT are rated as 4-season tents.