Always had trouble at first with NC vs NO and when each was in that state. The term "at-rest" definitely makes it it easy to remember and easy to shop for the right type of relay. Great job explaining a very useful device.
As a fellow electrician I do appreciate your content that u provide! If u don’t mind could u also provide a diagram so people those of us who would like to do some wiring at home could buy some equipment and experiment in their own??? Respectfully
Um what diagram would you need.? What you are asking is easy but kinda impossible. The easy part it that most relays will have the diagram printed right on the relay. The impossible part is that there are so many out there, there is no way to give you all the info. That's why there are datasheets. Even the sockets can be different. Even if he gave you the exact same relays diagram and link to the very place he got it form, it is highly likely that you see another one that is cheaper and think it's the same thing and you buy that one instead. So the diagram he might give you will be worthless and you are back at square one. Best thing to do, if you want to experiment, is get on the forums. Go prepared with datasheet or specific goal in mind. Most of the guys on them are very anal and many can read schematics but regular english fucks them up. Many times I read a person asking a specific question and gives details. In those details they even mention what voltage is being used and you'd get an answer to use a specific voltage. You sit there like "You fucking idiot I just said that can't you read." But no you can't say that. You have to sidestep those land mines. Because if you don't answer back, the other so called "senior guys", will ignore you back and not give you the information. If you reply with " Yes I already mentioned that but thanks" You will still get the cold shoulder from the rest. I can give you a link where that happened. There was a simple answer to what the guy was asking but never got an answer. They are very sensitive and have god complexes. They also get mad if someone just gets on the sight and actually gives the person help. I can't give them an answer because when I tried, they kicked me off the sight. Just because you understand what the person was asking for. That happens to me a lot. LOL Good luck.
The first part helped a lot the diagrams not so much. I had a lot of experience with the ELK-924 relays where the trigger and power "appear to be separated" so I kept looking for a trigger but the trigger is the power being sent to the coil or not sent. Epiphany! once I understood this and the the common poles were on the opposite side of the relay from the NO/NC poles then it all started to make sense.
I still hate the fact that these iceberg relays don't label the pins and when they do they are so small not even taking a picture and enlarging it helps. I always feel like the titanic when I see one. Because of this when I ever I see one I always just replace it with a relay that is labeled.
@@pmm422 Iceberg, titanic. Isn't that a bit over dramatic. Also so very weird. You can literally see the pins and where they go. Hell I figured that out way back when I was 8. And get yourself a damn magnifying glass.
@@brianslota4861 It is not the diagram, it's the type of diagram. Ladder diagrams really confuse people when they don't know what the symbols mean. You mentioned a bit but you didn't cross reference. As in 10:00 "See these two lines? Those are contacts. The line through it means NC", then go back and get the relay 3:10 and show them. "That this right here, again" and so on. I always use practical wiring diagrams as opposed to schematics and ladder. Also if you had used a SPDT that be better. Like your video BTW.
@@AztecWarrior69 I've worked with a lot of aspiring electricians and their biggest hurtle with these is trying to memorize what pins do what and then while trying to understand the whole relay concept is a struggle for them. When you contrast these with relay boards that are clearly marked well it's not hard to imagine what they prefer. I've had to trouble shoot these ice cubes with a dozen of them all mounted in an inconsistent orientation and with all the wires being black and white. It was a nightmare.
you should be able to obtain a basic single pole relay from a local controls distributor. I am using an IDEC relay. You can use any single pole relay though. I would strongly suggest to buy a lower voltage coil and have a power supply for it so you can switch on the coil. As is stated in the video, I used a 24VAC transformer for the 24 VAC coil on the relay.
Sir do you know how can I control pick up coils out put for distributors? I need some thing to control duration of pulses ore the 4 pin gm ignition module Im experimenting lot with engines so I wuld like to build me self variabel controled ignition timing . Im simply useing multipel engine types so I need some thing that does that task . Im even useing dual coils and dual 4 pin gm ignition modules only problem I have only 1 pick up coil so I need to ajust that for ich coil corectly.
Nicole. Could you please post a video about rb 12/24 usage. Specifically when it comes to card access integration with ada handicap openers? I would appreciate that greatly. Thanks in advance.
I agree, and based on this video, we have a relay switch that's hooked up to a 24volts and nothing but engage and disengage the power. How about adding a light and use the relay or add some dc powered motor, instead of an electric diagram. No criticism here, just a comment that maybe helpful, after all this video is about how relay works and not schematics.
Always had trouble at first with NC vs NO and when each was in that state. The term "at-rest" definitely makes it it easy to remember and easy to shop for the right type of relay. Great job explaining a very useful device.
One of the best explanations for relays thank you
Excellent explanation. Thanks for sharing.
One of the best videos I've seen. Thank you
Glad you liked it!
Great video.
Thank you man!It's really helpful
now i understand how relay works, thanks
Excellent video
Thanks, Brian
As a fellow electrician I do appreciate your content that u provide! If u don’t mind could u also provide a diagram so people those of us who would like to do some wiring at home could buy some equipment and experiment in their own???
Respectfully
I will try and update this video this Summer. I will take your request under consideration. Thanks!
Um what diagram would you need.? What you are asking is easy but kinda impossible. The easy part it that most relays will have the diagram printed right on the relay. The impossible part is that there are so many out there, there is no way to give you all the info. That's why there are datasheets. Even the sockets can be different. Even if he gave you the exact same relays diagram and link to the very place he got it form, it is highly likely that you see another one that is cheaper and think it's the same thing and you buy that one instead. So the diagram he might give you will be worthless and you are back at square one.
Best thing to do, if you want to experiment, is get on the forums. Go prepared with datasheet or specific goal in mind. Most of the guys on them are very anal and many can read schematics but regular english fucks them up. Many times I read a person asking a specific question and gives details. In those details they even mention what voltage is being used and you'd get an answer to use a specific voltage. You sit there like "You fucking idiot I just said that can't you read." But no you can't say that. You have to sidestep those land mines. Because if you don't answer back, the other so called "senior guys", will ignore you back and not give you the information. If you reply with " Yes I already mentioned that but thanks" You will still get the cold shoulder from the rest. I can give you a link where that happened. There was a simple answer to what the guy was asking but never got an answer. They are very sensitive and have god complexes. They also get mad if someone just gets on the sight and actually gives the person help. I can't give them an answer because when I tried, they kicked me off the sight. Just because you understand what the person was asking for. That happens to me a lot. LOL
Good luck.
Great video tank you
This video helped a lot thank you!
You're welcome!
thank you for that information sir, very helpful
Good clip , thanks for sharing information
Glad you enjoyed it
The first part helped a lot the diagrams not so much. I had a lot of experience with the ELK-924 relays where the trigger and power "appear to be separated" so I kept looking for a trigger but the trigger is the power being sent to the coil or not sent. Epiphany! once I understood this and the the common poles were on the opposite side of the relay from the NO/NC poles then it all started to make sense.
Thanks for the comment about the diagrams, I will attempt to use them better in future videos. Glad you had an epiphany!
I still hate the fact that these iceberg relays don't label the pins and when they do they are so small not even taking a picture and enlarging it helps. I always feel like the titanic when I see one. Because of this when I ever I see one I always just replace it with a relay that is labeled.
@@pmm422 Iceberg, titanic. Isn't that a bit over dramatic. Also so very weird. You can literally see the pins and where they go. Hell I figured that out way back when I was 8.
And get yourself a damn magnifying glass.
@@brianslota4861 It is not the diagram, it's the type of diagram. Ladder diagrams really confuse people when they don't know what the symbols mean. You mentioned a bit but you didn't cross reference. As in 10:00 "See these two lines? Those are contacts. The line through it means NC", then go back and get the relay 3:10 and show them. "That this right here, again" and so on. I always use practical wiring diagrams as opposed to schematics and ladder.
Also if you had used a SPDT that be better.
Like your video BTW.
@@AztecWarrior69 I've worked with a lot of aspiring electricians and their biggest hurtle with these is trying to memorize what pins do what and then while trying to understand the whole relay concept is a struggle for them. When you contrast these with relay boards that are clearly marked well it's not hard to imagine what they prefer. I've had to trouble shoot these ice cubes with a dozen of them all mounted in an inconsistent orientation and with all the wires being black and white. It was a nightmare.
thanks for shearing your knowledge.
My pleasure!
Is this considered a wet or dry contact relay?
Thanks for the vid
You bet
To be completely clear, 24 volts is required through the coil contact to operate the magnet thing?
It depends on the “coil rating” for the relay. The example I used was 24VAC, you can get different voltage AC and DC relays
thank you
You're welcome
Can you please tell me what exactly to buy so I can experiment and get some hands on learning experiencing myself please?
you should be able to obtain a basic single pole relay from a local controls distributor. I am using an IDEC relay. You can use any single pole relay though. I would strongly suggest to buy a lower voltage coil and have a power supply for it so you can switch on the coil. As is stated in the video, I used a 24VAC transformer for the 24 VAC coil on the relay.
@@brianslota4861 thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏
Did you ever get anywhere?
But how about as far as wireing one side control one side and the other two
Should do a video on a practice board and walk us through wiring up some lights with relays
What the F are you trying to say "wireing one side control one side and the other two"
Thanks sir
Welcome
Sir do you know how can I control pick up coils out put for distributors?
I need some thing to control duration of pulses ore the 4 pin gm ignition module Im experimenting lot with engines so I wuld like to build me self variabel controled ignition timing .
Im simply useing multipel engine types so I need some thing that does that task .
Im even useing dual coils and dual 4 pin gm ignition modules only problem I have only 1 pick up coil so I need to ajust that for ich coil corectly.
I don't know about automotive controls. My experience is in building automation and controls. Good Luck in your endeavor!
That can't be done with relays. You need mosfets for that.
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Chill and keep the negativity out of here @Nicole
Nicole. Could you please post a video about rb 12/24 usage. Specifically when it comes to card access integration with ada handicap openers? I would appreciate that greatly. Thanks in advance.
I agree, and based on this video, we have a relay switch that's hooked up to a 24volts and nothing but engage and disengage the power. How about adding a light and use the relay or add some dc powered motor, instead of an electric diagram. No criticism here, just a comment that maybe helpful, after all this video is about how relay works and not schematics.
Where can I see a video on this subject please ?