Always had trouble at first with NC vs NO and when each was in that state. The term "at-rest" definitely makes it it easy to remember and easy to shop for the right type of relay. Great job explaining a very useful device.
This is what I was looking for, without the switch. Context: I live in a remote area where power outage happens once in 2 weeks. I want to connect a relay that turns on a solenoid valve for a few seconds once the electricity returns and flush waters. I have an issue where water is murkier when after a power outage and I want to make it easier for my pre-filter.
As a fellow electrician I do appreciate your content that u provide! If u don’t mind could u also provide a diagram so people those of us who would like to do some wiring at home could buy some equipment and experiment in their own??? Respectfully
Um what diagram would you need.? What you are asking is easy but kinda impossible. The easy part it that most relays will have the diagram printed right on the relay. The impossible part is that there are so many out there, there is no way to give you all the info. That's why there are datasheets. Even the sockets can be different. Even if he gave you the exact same relays diagram and link to the very place he got it form, it is highly likely that you see another one that is cheaper and think it's the same thing and you buy that one instead. So the diagram he might give you will be worthless and you are back at square one. Best thing to do, if you want to experiment, is get on the forums. Go prepared with datasheet or specific goal in mind. Most of the guys on them are very anal and many can read schematics but regular english fucks them up. Many times I read a person asking a specific question and gives details. In those details they even mention what voltage is being used and you'd get an answer to use a specific voltage. You sit there like "You fucking idiot I just said that can't you read." But no you can't say that. You have to sidestep those land mines. Because if you don't answer back, the other so called "senior guys", will ignore you back and not give you the information. If you reply with " Yes I already mentioned that but thanks" You will still get the cold shoulder from the rest. I can give you a link where that happened. There was a simple answer to what the guy was asking but never got an answer. They are very sensitive and have god complexes. They also get mad if someone just gets on the sight and actually gives the person help. I can't give them an answer because when I tried, they kicked me off the sight. Just because you understand what the person was asking for. That happens to me a lot. LOL Good luck.
Sir do you know how can I control pick up coils out put for distributors? I need some thing to control duration of pulses ore the 4 pin gm ignition module Im experimenting lot with engines so I wuld like to build me self variabel controled ignition timing . Im simply useing multipel engine types so I need some thing that does that task . Im even useing dual coils and dual 4 pin gm ignition modules only problem I have only 1 pick up coil so I need to ajust that for ich coil corectly.
you should be able to obtain a basic single pole relay from a local controls distributor. I am using an IDEC relay. You can use any single pole relay though. I would strongly suggest to buy a lower voltage coil and have a power supply for it so you can switch on the coil. As is stated in the video, I used a 24VAC transformer for the 24 VAC coil on the relay.
Nicole. Could you please post a video about rb 12/24 usage. Specifically when it comes to card access integration with ada handicap openers? I would appreciate that greatly. Thanks in advance.
I agree, and based on this video, we have a relay switch that's hooked up to a 24volts and nothing but engage and disengage the power. How about adding a light and use the relay or add some dc powered motor, instead of an electric diagram. No criticism here, just a comment that maybe helpful, after all this video is about how relay works and not schematics.
The first part helped a lot the diagrams not so much. I had a lot of experience with the ELK-924 relays where the trigger and power "appear to be separated" so I kept looking for a trigger but the trigger is the power being sent to the coil or not sent. Epiphany! once I understood this and the the common poles were on the opposite side of the relay from the NO/NC poles then it all started to make sense.
I still hate the fact that these iceberg relays don't label the pins and when they do they are so small not even taking a picture and enlarging it helps. I always feel like the titanic when I see one. Because of this when I ever I see one I always just replace it with a relay that is labeled.
@@pmm422 Iceberg, titanic. Isn't that a bit over dramatic. Also so very weird. You can literally see the pins and where they go. Hell I figured that out way back when I was 8. And get yourself a damn magnifying glass.
@@brianslota4861 It is not the diagram, it's the type of diagram. Ladder diagrams really confuse people when they don't know what the symbols mean. You mentioned a bit but you didn't cross reference. As in 10:00 "See these two lines? Those are contacts. The line through it means NC", then go back and get the relay 3:10 and show them. "That this right here, again" and so on. I always use practical wiring diagrams as opposed to schematics and ladder. Also if you had used a SPDT that be better. Like your video BTW.
@@AztecWarrior69 I've worked with a lot of aspiring electricians and their biggest hurtle with these is trying to memorize what pins do what and then while trying to understand the whole relay concept is a struggle for them. When you contrast these with relay boards that are clearly marked well it's not hard to imagine what they prefer. I've had to trouble shoot these ice cubes with a dozen of them all mounted in an inconsistent orientation and with all the wires being black and white. It was a nightmare.
I’m trying to use an off delay timer to control a horn. I have a 120v magnetic switch that opens and closes when I open and close a door. I’d like my timer to start timing when the door is left open and sound the horn after 10 seconds
Hello Logan, thanks for your question which make us, viewers, brain storm, One of the characteristics of the timers either Solid State, Electromechanical, or Logic timers is that they rest their output switches back to their Rest State if the Control Power is cut during timing. So, in your case, ON Delay Timer is the best approach and it would be as following, A NO Limit Switch goes NC when the door is open, when the Limit Switch is Normally Close it supplies control voltage to ON delay timer, the ON Delay timer is NOTCO ( normally open time to normally close ) let's say 20 seconds, when you go through the door you have like 20 seconds to go in and shut the door so the Limit Switch will go back to NO and cut the control voltage to the ON delay timer, but if the door is kept or forgot open the limit switch will keep supplying the ON Delay Timer and it would keep timing until it finish the 20 seconds that when it's output switches change state to NC and fire the alarm Horn and Light I do hope this comment would help you and those who will read it, and thanks again for giving us the chance to brain storm by asking such good questions!
Anyone know how to use an on-delay timer as an off delay timer? I only have an on delay timer and NOT an off delay timer. I need to run a second fan for some time after the call for heat ends and shuts off the first fan. Both of the fans have to start at the same time.
Hello Sir can I please ask something
Always had trouble at first with NC vs NO and when each was in that state. The term "at-rest" definitely makes it it easy to remember and easy to shop for the right type of relay. Great job explaining a very useful device.
Is this considered a wet or dry contact relay?
now i understand how relay works, thanks
Excellent video
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Thank you man!It's really helpful
Thanks sir
thank you for that information sir, very helpful
Excellent explanation. Thanks for sharing.
This is what I was looking for, without the switch. Context: I live in a remote area where power outage happens once in 2 weeks. I want to connect a relay that turns on a solenoid valve for a few seconds once the electricity returns and flush waters. I have an issue where water is murkier when after a power outage and I want to make it easier for my pre-filter.
Thank you underrated
One of the best explanations for relays thank you
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Great job Sir, how I can have access to the diagram of connection? Can you send to me please?!
Great video tank you
So, 5 and 6 could works like a reset?
To be completely clear, 24 volts is required through the coil contact to operate the magnet thing?
It depends on the “coil rating” for the relay. The example I used was 24VAC, you can get different voltage AC and DC relays
Sounds your content goes with course content to a class you’re teaching. What book are you using and how can I get the information about this course?
I’m a little confused about hooking up the control circuit to 1 & 8 on the relay. Not making sense to me yet!
As a fellow electrician I do appreciate your content that u provide! If u don’t mind could u also provide a diagram so people those of us who would like to do some wiring at home could buy some equipment and experiment in their own??? Respectfully
I will try and update this video this Summer. I will take your request under consideration. Thanks!
Um what diagram would you need.? What you are asking is easy but kinda impossible. The easy part it that most relays will have the diagram printed right on the relay. The impossible part is that there are so many out there, there is no way to give you all the info. That's why there are datasheets. Even the sockets can be different. Even if he gave you the exact same relays diagram and link to the very place he got it form, it is highly likely that you see another one that is cheaper and think it's the same thing and you buy that one instead. So the diagram he might give you will be worthless and you are back at square one. Best thing to do, if you want to experiment, is get on the forums. Go prepared with datasheet or specific goal in mind. Most of the guys on them are very anal and many can read schematics but regular english fucks them up. Many times I read a person asking a specific question and gives details. In those details they even mention what voltage is being used and you'd get an answer to use a specific voltage. You sit there like "You fucking idiot I just said that can't you read." But no you can't say that. You have to sidestep those land mines. Because if you don't answer back, the other so called "senior guys", will ignore you back and not give you the information. If you reply with " Yes I already mentioned that but thanks" You will still get the cold shoulder from the rest. I can give you a link where that happened. There was a simple answer to what the guy was asking but never got an answer. They are very sensitive and have god complexes. They also get mad if someone just gets on the sight and actually gives the person help. I can't give them an answer because when I tried, they kicked me off the sight. Just because you understand what the person was asking for. That happens to me a lot. LOL Good luck.
thank you
You're welcome
How is A2 getting the neutral if the neutral is going to p3 and p5?
A2 goes to P4
Then P4 switches to P5 when latching
thanks for shearing your knowledge.
My pleasure!
Thanks sir
Welcome
Sir do you know how can I control pick up coils out put for distributors? I need some thing to control duration of pulses ore the 4 pin gm ignition module Im experimenting lot with engines so I wuld like to build me self variabel controled ignition timing . Im simply useing multipel engine types so I need some thing that does that task . Im even useing dual coils and dual 4 pin gm ignition modules only problem I have only 1 pick up coil so I need to ajust that for ich coil corectly.
I don't know about automotive controls. My experience is in building automation and controls. Good Luck in your endeavor!
That can't be done with relays. You need mosfets for that.
Great video.
Thanks a lot Sir
Most welcome
Iyarkai ennui
Thanks for the vid
You bet
Can you please tell me what exactly to buy so I can experiment and get some hands on learning experiencing myself please?
you should be able to obtain a basic single pole relay from a local controls distributor. I am using an IDEC relay. You can use any single pole relay though. I would strongly suggest to buy a lower voltage coil and have a power supply for it so you can switch on the coil. As is stated in the video, I used a 24VAC transformer for the 24 VAC coil on the relay.
@@brianslota4861 thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏
Did you ever get anywhere?
Good clip , thanks for sharing information
Glad you enjoyed it
One of the best videos I've seen. Thank you
Glad you liked it!
This video helped a lot thank you!
You're welcome!
If you believe you are electromechanical teacher or instructor , you must dream.
you know more?
Chill and keep the negativity out of here @Nicole
Nicole. Could you please post a video about rb 12/24 usage. Specifically when it comes to card access integration with ada handicap openers? I would appreciate that greatly. Thanks in advance.
I agree, and based on this video, we have a relay switch that's hooked up to a 24volts and nothing but engage and disengage the power. How about adding a light and use the relay or add some dc powered motor, instead of an electric diagram. No criticism here, just a comment that maybe helpful, after all this video is about how relay works and not schematics.
Where can I see a video on this subject please ?
Thanks, Brian
Love this guy. You rock Brian!
The first part helped a lot the diagrams not so much. I had a lot of experience with the ELK-924 relays where the trigger and power "appear to be separated" so I kept looking for a trigger but the trigger is the power being sent to the coil or not sent. Epiphany! once I understood this and the the common poles were on the opposite side of the relay from the NO/NC poles then it all started to make sense.
Thanks for the comment about the diagrams, I will attempt to use them better in future videos. Glad you had an epiphany!
I still hate the fact that these iceberg relays don't label the pins and when they do they are so small not even taking a picture and enlarging it helps. I always feel like the titanic when I see one. Because of this when I ever I see one I always just replace it with a relay that is labeled.
@@pmm422 Iceberg, titanic. Isn't that a bit over dramatic. Also so very weird. You can literally see the pins and where they go. Hell I figured that out way back when I was 8. And get yourself a damn magnifying glass.
@@brianslota4861 It is not the diagram, it's the type of diagram. Ladder diagrams really confuse people when they don't know what the symbols mean. You mentioned a bit but you didn't cross reference. As in 10:00 "See these two lines? Those are contacts. The line through it means NC", then go back and get the relay 3:10 and show them. "That this right here, again" and so on. I always use practical wiring diagrams as opposed to schematics and ladder. Also if you had used a SPDT that be better. Like your video BTW.
@@AztecWarrior69 I've worked with a lot of aspiring electricians and their biggest hurtle with these is trying to memorize what pins do what and then while trying to understand the whole relay concept is a struggle for them. When you contrast these with relay boards that are clearly marked well it's not hard to imagine what they prefer. I've had to trouble shoot these ice cubes with a dozen of them all mounted in an inconsistent orientation and with all the wires being black and white. It was a nightmare.
Ur videos are great for studying
Nice
So glad i found this video. Came here for a better explanation on my homework and then you pull out the exact sheet from my homework haha.
But how about as far as wireing one side control one side and the other two
Should do a video on a practice board and walk us through wiring up some lights with relays
What the F are you trying to say "wireing one side control one side and the other two"
I’m trying to use an off delay timer to control a horn. I have a 120v magnetic switch that opens and closes when I open and close a door. I’d like my timer to start timing when the door is left open and sound the horn after 10 seconds
Why OFF delay and not ON delay?
@@AztecWarrior69 Yes, ON delay Timer is the best approach,
Hello Logan, thanks for your question which make us, viewers, brain storm, One of the characteristics of the timers either Solid State, Electromechanical, or Logic timers is that they rest their output switches back to their Rest State if the Control Power is cut during timing. So, in your case, ON Delay Timer is the best approach and it would be as following, A NO Limit Switch goes NC when the door is open, when the Limit Switch is Normally Close it supplies control voltage to ON delay timer, the ON Delay timer is NOTCO ( normally open time to normally close ) let's say 20 seconds, when you go through the door you have like 20 seconds to go in and shut the door so the Limit Switch will go back to NO and cut the control voltage to the ON delay timer, but if the door is kept or forgot open the limit switch will keep supplying the ON Delay Timer and it would keep timing until it finish the 20 seconds that when it's output switches change state to NC and fire the alarm Horn and Light I do hope this comment would help you and those who will read it, and thanks again for giving us the chance to brain storm by asking such good questions!
Am from ethiopia. Nice 💯
Where can i get this relay except habuchi el cheapo junko Brand rather than alan bradley??
Do you use a screwdriver for nails?
The subtitles does no good and obstructing the part of video....
Anyone know how to use an on-delay timer as an off delay timer? I only have an on delay timer and NOT an off delay timer. I need to run a second fan for some time after the call for heat ends and shuts off the first fan. Both of the fans have to start at the same time.
Lol.. do you use a screwdriver for nails?
Lov u brian u r only one who show the practical
Thanks a lot, you are a life safer
line and neutral for magnetic contactor got from L1 and L2 using step down transformator?