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You're doing the wrong way. At 1:50 you're lifting the large panel up, the panel with the clips. This cracks the clips. You should lift the small side to detach from the clips. On my first HDD I only broke 1 clip this way.
@@CLAUDIOILTEXANO No, if you pull the side out then you undo the clips from the right angle. Once you've undone the clips you can then take off the top panel.
Where I live HDDs are stupid expensive, I picked up 2 seagate externals drives and scored a regular 10TB Barracuda and a 10TB Iron Wolf Pro! All for less than HALF the price of a brand new one!! thanks!
Great tutorial but i'd urge anyone attempting this not to use a knife of any kind! Get a set of cheap car trim removal tools or a mobile phone case opener tool both of which are made of hard plastic and are much safer to use and you also won't damage the case if you want to reuse it. Remember, these enclosures are designed not to be opened so you're going to need a bit of brute force. Using some trim removal tools i found it easier to prise open where there is a gap inside towards each end of the flat cover. I only broke 1 clip so that was pretty good going i think. I opened up 2 x 8TB enclosures and found some very nice Seagate Barracuda Computes in mine. They cost me £105 each in Amazon's sale. The price of these naked drives was £179 so i save a load of money shucking them! Just take your time and be careful. If you don't break the clips you can of course reuse these enclosures with other drives so it's a great way of saving money!
I used this just the other day to make sure i didn't damage the drive. Got a 14tb exos x16 enterprise drive, pretty happy. Loud drive but ok in a HDD silencer. Even put a 3tb toshiba back in the enclosure to give to a friend. Works fine.
Excellent video. Watched too many of these where the person in the video clearly has no idea what theyre doing and seem to be making it up as they go along. Thanks for an excellent video.
thanks for this! I was planning on opening mine since it suddenly smells like burnt component inside- I immediately unplugged it. Waiting now for my docking station order to test it if the internals are still working
@@whitefata12 hey man i had the same issue happen to mine where i smelled the smoke. I have yet to open mine and see if it works. How did it work out for you? where you able to save the drive? thanks so munch unlike you I didn't order the docking station yet out of fear.
I can only speak of my experience - I have had a total of six 5TB SMR drives: five that I purchased and installed two years ago, and one just a month ago. One out of the six has failed (one that was two years old). It was under warranty so it was promptly replaced by Seagate.
Wonderful, thank you. My drive will not connect, I've tried different cables and different PCs. I get a constant 'connect/deconnect' sound. If I were to shuck it, and remove it, in the hopes that the USB connector is the culprit, is there another cable I could hopefully connect it too to get my data? Thank you.
Yes, if you have an extra USB power cable coming from your power supply, and a separate USB data cable, then you can hook up the disk internally in a desktop computer.
My 10tb model had an IronDoggo Pro NAS drive. Paid $160 for it. Saved half the cost of the drive new. I also used hard guitar picks to remove the panel. Didn't break a single clip, surprisingly. I'm going to replace it with a 1tb drive so i can still use the hub.
@@Kajukota I've read that Exos are supposed to be "better" since they are their enterprise-level drives, but I've also heard they're noisier. I think it depends on how and where you use it also.
Quicker to use tile grout scrapper and pen knife, had two of these blow out one after the other after connecting to a dodgy Chinese made mini pc and surge protector strip. I fixed one by swapping the case with a new identical one.
Changed the hdd inside from 8tb to WD 4tb, it works fine but around 20 seconds later the light died but the hard disk is still detected and works fine. I lost the led light. Tried also on another 10tb to WD 4tb, same after a few seconds the led light died. Pls someone help me, thank you
I haven't tried using WD drives in a Seagate enclosure (I've only tried older HGST disks), so I'll need to defer to others who may have had more experience - anyone?
@@accessrandom Thank you for replying, I've also tried with Seagate 1Tb, led light still off but the hdd works fine. Seems it detect the wrong enclosure hard disk capacity, maybe ...
I have this drive and today it would not show up in the file s on my mac. The drive spins and in the terminal it is there but can't get my computer to read it.
I'm afraid I haven't tried it on a Mac. It should be able to read the exFAT or NTFS file systems, and the Seagate Backup Plus Hub doesn't have any hardware encryption so it should be readable - are you able to try it in a different computer to rule out a bad hard drive?
Can I store this inside my PC instead of dismantling it like this. Can run the power cord through a vent. I have my hdds die on me 3 times in s row. It's frustrating. Now I've gotten this.
Like you said, you would need to run the power cord out of the case, which would be a bit awkward. USB can be internal if you have a PCIe USB card. Were the three that died internal HDDs or externals? You may have internal power supply problems or overheating problems if internal, or other power issues if external.
I broke every clip (wouldn’t have it any other way 😂) and got the drive out the way you did in this fine video. The drive was a 10tb Barracuda Pro. Is that any good?
Thanks for this video! One question: our cat pushed our device off my desk, it fell around 50 cm down on the floor. The light is still working but the drive is not responding when connecting the USB cable; you only hear a repeating beep. I am praying it's just the USB connector that broke and the disk is intact. If I take out the disk and connect it via a SATA cradle to my PC, would I be able to access the data if the disk is indeed intact? Thanks in advance!
Yes, you should be able to access the data if the disk is ok, unless there is any type of encryption. This can help you rule out whether the problem is with the hard drive or the controller.
@@whitenuttergoku7310 Thanks for checking. Actually no, I gave Seagate a call before trying. To my astonishment, they said that the damage would fall under their warranty. They offered me to replace the device for free. What's more, they offered me to check the disk in their lab and rescue the data on the device if possible. Within weeks I recieved the new device and after 6-7 weeks all the rescued data on a Portable Expansion+ drive. No need to send the latter back to Seagate. I've not come across such incredible customer service in my life so far; Seagate have definitely earned themselves a customer for life,
Hello. Is the the Hard Disk Drive in this External HDD Enclosure using PMR (Perpendicular Magnetic Recording) or SMR (Shingled Magnetic Recording)? How can we order the PMR version?? Thank you.
cheers 4 the great howto! basically it broke my heart to crack it up cos the hub is quite useful and i'm losing warranty (crossing fingers now for 2 years...) but didnt find a WORKING 5m MICRO usb cable to shift it to another room using my old external case on usb Typ-B
What does it mean at the end when he says this is a SMR drive and comments on the life of the unit? I believe these HD units come with 3 years warranty so how long would one expect these units to last as the main purpose of purchasing one is long term back up of important information.
I can only speak from experience, but I've had to RMA two SMR Seagates within the warranty period, while my non-SMR drives have been going strong for over four years. Please note that all of them have been in use 24/7 so if you're just using it as a backup drive that you store offline, it should last much longer.
Only CMR drives are good ones, its an old technology method how drives write data on them. SMR is built to cheat consumers, since they up the volume by too much from less. Lets say 2tb increased in size up to 8tp without loss of cost to manufacture, its kind of like old compression method in windows xp was, but you have true 8tb, the only problem, its good only for Read, and will die on many Writes. So if you want good drive take CMR it will last for long time, while SMR is good as SD Card, if you Write data to it few times and then use it for Read only its good (Backup) if you want to use it for video editing or constantly erasing and rewriting data, for NAS etc, its no go.
Hello, I am planning to buy an 8TB seagate. Which one is better/faster? Seagate Backup Plus Hub or Seagate Desktop Expansion? What is the rpm of the two drives?
I have another video where I remove an 8TB Seagate Expansion: th-cam.com/video/G0DevtBXP6A/w-d-xo.html. Both are 5400 rpm and so you probably won't see a difference in speed. In terms of reliability, I've had to RMA two of the desktop disks (the one shown in this video) while the Barracudas have been going strong for 3 years.
I have one of this kind 8TB hd. It was working well till recently. And then suddenly the computer doesn't recognize it anymore, we've tried it on several computers with the same result. But the light on the case turns on. We've checked adapter & the usb cable & they seem to be working fine with other hard drives. I was wondering, if I remove the hard drive from the case as you did & connect to another older case from a 2TB Seagate, is there a chance that this will work?
Yes, it should work unless there is a problem with the disk itself. There is no hardware encryption so if you plug it in as an internal disk to a Windows PC, it should be able to read the data (unless, again, the disk itself has gone bad).
@@luigiprovencher Sorry, I thought I was replying to one of my other videos (WD-related). The Seagates are definitely 5400 rpm. I've opened an old Samsung 5TB but that was also a 5400 rpm Seagate inside.
It has been kind of bad trends starting from Apple: Product designs meant to be none user serviceable. What a shameful practice for wasting material resource. Upgrading the hard drive on this enclosure with USB 3.0 hub makes sense. However, the manufacturer intentionally makes it difficult to benefit sale of future bigger capacity external drive products.
Hello ! Is this HDD run at 5400RPM or 7200RPM ? I have a Seagate Game Drive HUB 8TO for Xbox One I buy recently (thanks Black Friday !) and I'm very surprise how it is fast compare to a HDD 1 or 2TO in 2"5 ! Have you an idea why it is better ? Thanks.
Congrats on the BF drive! The one that I have is a 5400 RPM drive. It's possible that the Seagate Game Drive Hub has a faster RPM (I couldn't find the speed on their spec sheet). It could be that, even at 5400 RPM it will appear to be faster since there's so much density on each platter...
@@accessrandom Thanks for your answer :-) I have see spec for their HDD Desktop and Barracuda HDD in 8To and they run between 5400 or 7200RPM and this two big guys have 256Mo of cache memory ... but it's clear it's more faster than 2"5 external HDD ! In Forza Horizon 4 to be in the game, it take 1minute approximatively but with Game drive Hub I think I win 15 or 20 second so it is great ! Hope you the best.
The model number is ST5000DM000, where sites like legitreviews claim is SMR. I've also experienced extreme slowdowns when overwriting data that already exists on the disk.
Unfortunately, the hard drive manufacturers are able to use different internal models as long as it meets the specifications on the box. With that said, there are tools like HD Sentinel and I think CrystalDiskInfo that can report on the model of the internal disk before shucking. Also, I find that Western Digital is more consistent in what internals they use for their external drives.
Can you reshoot the video as in the first quarter/third it it impossible to see what you are doing. Your hands are between the camera and the object. Thanks
Sorry for the obscure shots in certain parts of the video. As soon as I have an opportunity to obtain another, I can re-shoot. Unfortunately, I discarded the case featured in the video.
Yeah, you're right - I guess Seagate is free to use any internal drive that meets the specs for the external drive (which is basically the capacity, dimensions, and support for USB 3.0).
@@blackandcold Yeah dude, i have a problem. I rip all my blu-ray discs in order to have a archival copy, (1.5 TB) And the biggest offender may be that i record almost everything i play, about 25MB/ each 15 seconds, that adds up.
@@blackandcold There is this new technology developed by seagate called hamr, it will dramatically decrease cost per TB in those hard drives. 20 TB hamr drives should release late this year, and if I'm not mistaken, they are priced similarly to the 8 TB ones now. This will really make my hoarding habits less costly.
NEVER use a metal screwdriver to pry open a plastic case. Spend a few $ & buy a non-metal/anti-magnetic case spudger-pry tool. All the 'usual suspects' sell them. btw, if you warm up the housing with a hair dryer on low heat for a few minutes from 12" away the case is much easier to shuck and won't be damaged. Biggest issue with the BPH series is ventilation. Placing the drive flat improves air flow and is better for the HDD. I used 4 stick-on rubber feet, cost fifty-cents (Front ports to the left & LED logo on the right) ! Well done video, bad advice on the 'shucking' technique.
Great tips! This will be very helpful for others - I really like the hair dryer idea. I really need to create another video for this when I get my hands on another Seagate BPH.
You shouldn't do this as a norm, the drive inside are the Seagate Archive HDD's and they usually sell cheaper than the boxed ones. On amazon today 240euro for the boxed and 215euro unboxed, but nice how-to vid. When the boxed ones are on sale it might be a different story however.
Wow, prices on the internals have come down quite a bit. Thanks for the data point. In the States, the internal 8TB ($220) is still more expensive than the external ($160 for the Backup Plus Hub), but the gap is getting smaller.
i'll never get their reasoning in this, you can send me a plain cardboard box with a disk and be done with it, but then you price yourself out of the market with a product you need a fancy box and a extra casing for. All cutting into your profit margin. Still, lucky you for their screwups.
Drives that fail QA during manufacture get recertified internally for resale and stuffed in these enclosures with shorter warranty periods, typically. That's why you see random makes/models inside from one box to another. There's nothing wrong with them, but when I buy them I run Seatools on them quarterly until my warranty is up, then I remove them from the enclosure for internal use.
Superb video, Sir. Congrats. But I'm afraid I had a head crash. 8TB unit. Part number 1XBAP4-500 - Model SRD0PV1. No need to open the enclosure. I lost tons of data, and a lot of sentimental information. It is time to practice emotional detachment. Well, thanks for the vid anyway. Have a nice life! And greetings from Rio!
They over complicated the design, usb should only be on the back to prevent consumers from fiddling with a spinning drive. I guess the fragile clips are a nice anti tamper. I still prefer the vanity aluminum g-drives lol
Good question - the Seagate basically acts as a USB hub where you can connect more USB devices to the computer, but ultimately you're connecting to just one computer. If you shuck it, you do lose the hub functionality but in my case, i place the hard disk in a QNAP NAS which let's me access that drive from multiple computers.
@@accessrandom Weird related question - Is it possible to reuse the SATA board internally (such as mounted to an optical bay, with the proper adjustments) using a SATA cable and the power connector? I've seen online versions of front panel optical/floppy bay USB hubs for sale, but I thought I'd ask since I already own this drive.
Less than ideal USB connector on device rear. Two brand new hubs with intermittent USB connection. Despite the cable inserted, theirs or my own, the drive connects/disconnects unless the cable is very specifically held in position. Forget all that, this drive is coming out and going into a Nexstar 3.1 enclosure. Poor workmanship
@@justinmason100 Not good enough. Most reviewers just follow a script or product description or what they think they know. Thus, videos are useful so customers can see for themselves.
@@UnitAlir i dont understand your problem, he says in the video that it is sata, and i can tell you from experience that it is sata. you would be hard pressed to find a drive that isn't sata in an external enclosure
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I followed this along, drive on the desk while I watched. Minutes later I had a bare drive in my hand. Thanks. VERY helpful.
You're welcome, and thank you 🙏. Glad you found the video useful.
What an oddly soothing, calm, reassuring voice. Decent narration and pacing as well. You could do an audio book.
Thanks! I keep hearing that in the comments - makes me think i should change careers. Where do I apply :)
Your narration is amazingly good
Thank you :)
You're doing the wrong way. At 1:50 you're lifting the large panel up, the panel with the clips. This cracks the clips. You should lift the small side to detach from the clips. On my first HDD I only broke 1 clip this way.
Thanks for the tip. I may have to re-do this one when I have the opportunity to get another Backup Plus Hub. Upvoted.
@@CLAUDIOILTEXANO No, if you pull the side out then you undo the clips from the right angle. Once you've undone the clips you can then take off the top panel.
Mine hit the floor today quite hard, it wont start. Should i do this a plug into another caddy!?
Where I live HDDs are stupid expensive, I picked up 2 seagate externals drives and scored a regular 10TB Barracuda and a 10TB Iron Wolf Pro! All for less than HALF the price of a brand new one!!
thanks!
I tried two 10TB ones and I got an IronWolf Pro in one and BarraCuda Pro in the other. Excellent guide by the way!
Those are very nice disks - thank you 🙏.
Straight to the point and showed everything really clearly. Thanks!
You're welcome, and thank you 🙏
You are the Bob Ross of Hardware Tech. Great video!
Many thanks 🙏👍 I'll try to work in "There’s nothing wrong with having a tree as a friend” in the script of my next video 🙂
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@@MotherGunner Nice 😂
Great tutorial but i'd urge anyone attempting this not to use a knife of any kind! Get a set of cheap car trim removal tools or a mobile phone case opener tool both of which are made of hard plastic and are much safer to use and you also won't damage the case if you want to reuse it. Remember, these enclosures are designed not to be opened so you're going to need a bit of brute force. Using some trim removal tools i found it easier to prise open where there is a gap inside towards each end of the flat cover. I only broke 1 clip so that was pretty good going i think. I opened up 2 x 8TB enclosures and found some very nice Seagate Barracuda Computes in mine. They cost me £105 each in Amazon's sale. The price of these naked drives was £179 so i save a load of money shucking them! Just take your time and be careful. If you don't break the clips you can of course reuse these enclosures with other drives so it's a great way of saving money!
Great recommendation - thank you 👍
Very clear, thank you sir !
I was pleasantly surprised to find a barracuda compute in my 6 TB version.
Fantastic! Thanks for the comment.
I used this just the other day to make sure i didn't damage the drive.
Got a 14tb exos x16 enterprise drive, pretty happy. Loud drive but ok in a HDD silencer.
Even put a 3tb toshiba back in the enclosure to give to a friend. Works fine.
This guy is the Bob Ross of hard drive shucking
😀 In my next video, I'll accidentally drop a hard drive and say, "we don't make mistakes, just happy little accidents."
How about a tutorial on installing and working with WSL?
Interesting - I will certainly take a look after I finish my next series of videos, probably WSL with Windows Server 2019.
Excellent video. Watched too many of these where the person in the video clearly has no idea what theyre doing and seem to be making it up as they go along. Thanks for an excellent video.
Much obliged 🎩 and thank you!
Shucked a 10TB and got a 325 dollar ironwolf pro thanks for the help!
That's quite a find! 👍👍👍
Do you lose data/partitions when you switch drive to sata from usb?
Best open video for the hub version.THX
Much obliged 🎩 - thank you.
Great! Good to know for when I have to do this next year when it fails because it's a Seagate!
I've shucked 16 disks, both WD and Seagate, and the only RMAs I've had are two Seagates...
thanks for this! I was planning on opening mine since it suddenly smells like burnt component inside- I immediately unplugged it. Waiting now for my docking station order to test it if the internals are still working
You're welcome. Hopefully, it's only the PCB adapter and not the circuitry on the hard drive itself.
@@accessrandom hopefully >_
@@whitefata12 hey man i had the same issue happen to mine where i smelled the smoke. I have yet to open mine and see if it works. How did it work out for you? where you able to save the drive? thanks so munch unlike you I didn't order the docking station yet out of fear.
@@xavierdegreeves fortunately its all good. Seems like its just the pcb and it works perfectly fine on a docking station
@@whitefata12 appreciate that man.
I was hearing that they are building the usb board onto the hard drive / no sata connector anymore?
The 3.5" externals are shuckable - it's only the 2.5" Western Digital externals that have their USB soldered onto the disk.
Thx also got an 8TB Barracuda Compute. Will use it for Plex Movie, so smr is fine. Did two :)
Can someone share ico file that was on disc when you buy it?
I deleted mine...
Can the hard drive be used in a laptop?
How reliable is SMR drive then?
I can only speak of my experience - I have had a total of six 5TB SMR drives: five that I purchased and installed two years ago, and one just a month ago.
One out of the six has failed (one that was two years old). It was under warranty so it was promptly replaced by Seagate.
Great video. 👍 Does Seagate force you to tape the 3rd pin on the sata connector like WD does if you want to use it inside your pc case?
Thank you. As far as i know, the 3.3V pin issue is only for Western Digital white labels.
Wonderful, thank you. My drive will not connect, I've tried different cables and different PCs. I get a constant 'connect/deconnect' sound. If I were to shuck it, and remove it, in the hopes that the USB connector is the culprit, is there another cable I could hopefully connect it too to get my data? Thank you.
Yes, if you have an extra USB power cable coming from your power supply, and a separate USB data cable, then you can hook up the disk internally in a desktop computer.
My 10tb model had an IronDoggo Pro NAS drive. Paid $160 for it. Saved half the cost of the drive new. I also used hard guitar picks to remove the panel. Didn't break a single clip, surprisingly. I'm going to replace it with a 1tb drive so i can still use the hub.
Awesome. I'd heard Seagate was starting to put Exos drives in their higher capacity externals also.
@@accessrandom do you think an exos drive or ironwolf pro is a better drive for mass storage?
@@Kajukota I've read that Exos are supposed to be "better" since they are their enterprise-level drives, but I've also heard they're noisier. I think it depends on how and where you use it also.
Quicker to use tile grout scrapper and pen knife, had two of these blow out one after the other after connecting to a dodgy Chinese made mini pc and surge protector strip. I fixed one by swapping the case with a new identical one.
thank you can the hard drive be replaced with another 3.5 inch one?
I've had success using HGST 3.5" disks in the enclosure. I can't say for certain for other brands but I think they should work...
Changed the hdd inside from 8tb to WD 4tb, it works fine but around 20 seconds later the light died but the hard disk is still detected and works fine. I lost the led light. Tried also on another 10tb to WD 4tb, same after a few seconds the led light died. Pls someone help me, thank you
I haven't tried using WD drives in a Seagate enclosure (I've only tried older HGST disks), so I'll need to defer to others who may have had more experience - anyone?
@@accessrandom Thank you for replying, I've also tried with Seagate 1Tb, led light still off but the hdd works fine. Seems it detect the wrong enclosure hard disk capacity, maybe ...
I shucked 2.5" external hdd from Seagate, n the light died too!
Don't use screw drivers... use a cheap hard guitar pick... They don't break the tabs and the case stays intact
Very helpful. Although I feel like I've lucked out bigtime with my 4TB model... which has a Barracuda Compute drive inside!
Thank you, and great find! 👍
So the hard drive inside can then be used as a normal HDD in a pc? There is no protection preventing normal use?
That's correct - you may use it as you would any normal internal hard drive.
I have this drive and today it would not show up in the file s on my mac. The drive spins and in the terminal it is there but can't get my computer to read it.
I'm afraid I haven't tried it on a Mac. It should be able to read the exFAT or NTFS file systems, and the Seagate Backup Plus Hub doesn't have any hardware encryption so it should be readable - are you able to try it in a different computer to rule out a bad hard drive?
Can I store this inside my PC instead of dismantling it like this. Can run the power cord through a vent. I have my hdds die on me 3 times in s row. It's frustrating. Now I've gotten this.
Like you said, you would need to run the power cord out of the case, which would be a bit awkward. USB can be internal if you have a PCIe USB card. Were the three that died internal HDDs or externals? You may have internal power supply problems or overheating problems if internal, or other power issues if external.
@@accessrandom Internal HDDs. Just my luck. The last 3 HDDs have all died along with data.
Can this go straight into the PC after shucking or does it require some modifications like some WD drives do?
Thanks for the great video.
You're welcome, and thanks. As far as I know, none of the Seagates require the 3.3V fix (with the tape over the 3rd pin).
@@accessrandom thank you 👍🏼
Thanks for the help - perfect instructions
You're welcome, and thank you for the feedback 🙏.
I broke every clip (wouldn’t have it any other way 😂) and got the drive out the way you did in this fine video. The drive was a 10tb Barracuda Pro. Is that any good?
I believe that's a CMR drive (as opposed to SMR), according to Seagate's website - so that is an excellent drive.
@@accessrandom that’s great! Something went right today after all! 😂
Thanks for this video! One question: our cat pushed our device off my desk, it fell around 50 cm down on the floor. The light is still working but the drive is not responding when connecting the USB cable; you only hear a repeating beep. I am praying it's just the USB connector that broke and the disk is intact. If I take out the disk and connect it via a SATA cradle to my PC, would I be able to access the data if the disk is indeed intact? Thanks in advance!
Yes, you should be able to access the data if the disk is ok, unless there is any type of encryption. This can help you rule out whether the problem is with the hard drive or the controller.
Did you ever fix it ?
@@whitenuttergoku7310 Thanks for checking. Actually no, I gave Seagate a call before trying. To my astonishment, they said that the damage would fall under their warranty. They offered me to replace the device for free. What's more, they offered me to check the disk in their lab and rescue the data on the device if possible. Within weeks I recieved the new device and after 6-7 weeks all the rescued data on a Portable Expansion+ drive. No need to send the latter back to Seagate. I've not come across such incredible customer service in my life so far; Seagate have definitely earned themselves a customer for life,
* Seagate has a serial warranty checker on their site.
Swapping the case for a new one fixed my problem. Which is a Better solution for ppl than sending off their sensitive data to Seagate for recovery.
Hello.
Is the the Hard Disk Drive in this External HDD Enclosure using PMR (Perpendicular Magnetic Recording) or SMR (Shingled Magnetic Recording)?
How can we order the PMR version??
Thank you.
The drive that I got is an SMR drive. Unfortunately, there is no way to guarantee that you will receive one or the other when you order one.
Seagate interface is compatiable wd hdd? Can I use my (full data include) 4tb wd hdd with thisBackup Hub's interface?
I haven't used it with WD disks specifically, but I know it works with HGST drives (which WD owns).
@@accessrandom thanks, I will try 2 days later but I am not sure dangerous for my backup
cheers 4 the great howto! basically it broke my heart to crack it up cos the hub is quite useful and i'm losing warranty (crossing fingers now for 2 years...) but didnt find a WORKING 5m MICRO usb cable to shift it to another room using my old external case on usb Typ-B
it s the same with Seagate Backup Plus 10TB (STEL10000400) ? I want use this on my pc case
Most people have been getting Barracuda Compute Pros inside, though I've heard that a few got the IronWolf Pro.
Thanks! Your Video was very helpful!
You're welcome, and thank you for the feedback 🙏.
What does it mean at the end when he says this is a SMR drive and comments on the life of the unit? I believe these HD units come with 3 years warranty so how long would one expect these units to last as the main purpose of purchasing one is long term back up of important information.
I can only speak from experience, but I've had to RMA two SMR Seagates within the warranty period, while my non-SMR drives have been going strong for over four years. Please note that all of them have been in use 24/7 so if you're just using it as a backup drive that you store offline, it should last much longer.
Only CMR drives are good ones, its an old technology method how drives write data on them. SMR is built to cheat consumers, since they up the volume by too much from less. Lets say 2tb increased in size up to 8tp without loss of cost to manufacture, its kind of like old compression method in windows xp was, but you have true 8tb, the only problem, its good only for Read, and will die on many Writes.
So if you want good drive take CMR it will last for long time, while SMR is good as SD Card, if you Write data to it few times and then use it for Read only its good (Backup) if you want to use it for video editing or constantly erasing and rewriting data, for NAS etc, its no go.
Hello, I am planning to buy an 8TB seagate. Which one is better/faster? Seagate Backup Plus Hub or Seagate Desktop Expansion? What is the rpm of the two drives?
I have another video where I remove an 8TB Seagate Expansion: th-cam.com/video/G0DevtBXP6A/w-d-xo.html. Both are 5400 rpm and so you probably won't see a difference in speed. In terms of reliability, I've had to RMA two of the desktop disks (the one shown in this video) while the Barracudas have been going strong for 3 years.
I have one of this kind 8TB hd. It was working well till recently. And then suddenly the computer doesn't recognize it anymore, we've tried it on several computers with the same result. But the light on the case turns on. We've checked adapter & the usb cable & they seem to be working fine with other hard drives.
I was wondering, if I remove the hard drive from the case as you did & connect to another older case from a 2TB Seagate, is there a chance that this will work?
Yes, it should work unless there is a problem with the disk itself. There is no hardware encryption so if you plug it in as an internal disk to a Windows PC, it should be able to read the data (unless, again, the disk itself has gone bad).
Did you fix it? I bought 2 8TB versions and cloned them just in case one failed, which one of them did. Never ever trust sea gate.
What speed are these drives inside? I'm thinking about buying the 8TB.
The speed is 5400 rpm. In some cases, the part number may indicate 7200, but CrystalDiskMark confirms 5400.
@@accessrandom So I might be better off buying a faster internal drive and enclosure for it.
Yes, if speed is important to you. I'm afraid all the WD drives 8TB and over have been shown to be only 5400 rpm.
@@accessrandom What about other brands?
@@luigiprovencher Sorry, I thought I was replying to one of my other videos (WD-related). The Seagates are definitely 5400 rpm. I've opened an old Samsung 5TB but that was also a 5400 rpm Seagate inside.
Can I replace the drive and reuse the case?
Yes - the PCB for the case doesn't have any hardware encryption, so you can use the enclosure with other drives.
@@accessrandom thanks a lot. I just came up on a good mine of hard drives and am replacing everything with 12tb drives, including my external.
Very helpful and useful. Very clear directions too. Thanks
You're welcome, and thank you. Glad you found it useful.
excellent, thanks. worked perfectly.
It has been kind of bad trends starting from Apple: Product designs meant to be none user serviceable. What a shameful practice for wasting material resource.
Upgrading the hard drive on this enclosure with USB 3.0 hub makes sense. However, the manufacturer intentionally makes it difficult to benefit sale of future bigger capacity external drive products.
Hello ! Is this HDD run at 5400RPM or 7200RPM ? I have a Seagate Game Drive HUB 8TO for Xbox One I buy recently (thanks Black Friday !) and I'm very surprise how it is fast compare to a HDD 1 or 2TO in 2"5 ! Have you an idea why it is better ? Thanks.
Congrats on the BF drive! The one that I have is a 5400 RPM drive. It's possible that the Seagate Game Drive Hub has a faster RPM (I couldn't find the speed on their spec sheet). It could be that, even at 5400 RPM it will appear to be faster since there's so much density on each platter...
@@accessrandom Thanks for your answer :-) I have see spec for their HDD Desktop and Barracuda HDD in 8To and they run between 5400 or 7200RPM and this two big guys have 256Mo of cache memory ... but it's clear it's more faster than 2"5 external HDD ! In Forza Horizon 4 to be in the game, it take 1minute approximatively but with Game drive Hub I think I win 15 or 20 second so it is great ! Hope you the best.
How did you know that the drive is SMR?
The model number is ST5000DM000, where sites like legitreviews claim is SMR. I've also experienced extreme slowdowns when overwriting data that already exists on the disk.
@@accessrandom so you're only going to know if the drive is SMR or not is by buying and testing it?
Unfortunately, the hard drive manufacturers are able to use different internal models as long as it meets the specifications on the box. With that said, there are tools like HD Sentinel and I think CrystalDiskInfo that can report on the model of the internal disk before shucking. Also, I find that Western Digital is more consistent in what internals they use for their external drives.
Can you reshoot the video as in the first quarter/third it it impossible to see what you are doing. Your hands are between the camera and the object.
Thanks
Sorry for the obscure shots in certain parts of the video. As soon as I have an opportunity to obtain another, I can re-shoot. Unfortunately, I discarded the case featured in the video.
Why the drive inside have so many variation, some people get NAS seagate, some people get new baracuda, some get old version hdd. It just so random
Yeah, you're right - I guess Seagate is free to use any internal drive that meets the specs for the external drive (which is basically the capacity, dimensions, and support for USB 3.0).
I appreciate this upload. Thank you!
You're welcome, and thank you 👍
Buying backup drives is somehow cheaper than the internal desktop ones, so i will just be buying these and be taking the HDD inside them.
👍 It's a good strategy.
@@blackandcold Yeah dude, i have a problem. I rip all my blu-ray discs in order to have a archival copy, (1.5 TB) And the biggest offender may be that i record almost everything i play, about 25MB/ each 15 seconds, that adds up.
@@blackandcold There is this new technology developed by seagate called hamr, it will dramatically decrease cost per TB in those hard drives. 20 TB hamr drives should release late this year, and if I'm not mistaken, they are priced similarly to the 8 TB ones now. This will really make my hoarding habits less costly.
The best reason to do this is to replace the standard pokey drive with a much faster one.
Danmar007 @danmar007 which drive did you upgrade to?
NEVER use a metal screwdriver to pry open a plastic case. Spend a few $ & buy a non-metal/anti-magnetic case spudger-pry tool. All the 'usual suspects' sell them. btw, if you warm up the housing with a hair dryer on low heat for a few minutes from 12" away the case is much easier to shuck and won't be damaged.
Biggest issue with the BPH series is ventilation. Placing the drive flat improves air flow and is better for the HDD.
I used 4 stick-on rubber feet, cost fifty-cents (Front ports to the left & LED logo on the right) !
Well done video, bad advice on the 'shucking' technique.
Great tips! This will be very helpful for others - I really like the hair dryer idea. I really need to create another video for this when I get my hands on another Seagate BPH.
Great video, Thanks!
You're welcome!
You shouldn't do this as a norm, the drive inside are the Seagate Archive HDD's and they usually sell cheaper than the boxed ones. On amazon today 240euro for the boxed and 215euro unboxed, but nice how-to vid. When the boxed ones are on sale it might be a different story however.
Wow, prices on the internals have come down quite a bit. Thanks for the data point.
In the States, the internal 8TB ($220) is still more expensive than the external ($160 for the Backup Plus Hub), but the gap is getting smaller.
i'll never get their reasoning in this, you can send me a plain cardboard box with a disk and be done with it, but then you price yourself out of the market with a product you need a fancy box and a extra casing for. All cutting into your profit margin. Still, lucky you for their screwups.
Drives that fail QA during manufacture get recertified internally for resale and stuffed in these enclosures with shorter warranty periods, typically. That's why you see random makes/models inside from one box to another. There's nothing wrong with them, but when I buy them I run Seatools on them quarterly until my warranty is up, then I remove them from the enclosure for internal use.
Mark Hmmm.. I have couple of these. They are inexpensive but they are slow. Thanks for the tip on checking them regularly.
Superb video, Sir. Congrats. But I'm afraid I had a head crash. 8TB unit. Part number 1XBAP4-500 - Model SRD0PV1. No need to open the enclosure. I lost tons of data, and a lot of sentimental information. It is time to practice emotional detachment. Well, thanks for the vid anyway. Have a nice life! And greetings from Rio!
Sorry to hear that. If you haven't already, perhaps you could try attaching it as an internal SATA disk (just in case it's a PCB error)?
Same, I lost years of video recordings backed up on to this cruel machine. Try a data recovery service.
Good video. Thank you! Seagate: terrible case design!
You're welcome, and thank you 🙏. Agreed! Their cases are the only ones that I can't completely non-destructively take apart.
Speed rotate 7200 or 5400?
5400.
They over complicated the design, usb should only be on the back to prevent consumers from fiddling with a spinning drive.
I guess the fragile clips are a nice anti tamper. I still prefer the vanity aluminum g-drives lol
Why would you want to do this because then then there’s no use for the USB ports
Good question - the Seagate basically acts as a USB hub where you can connect more USB devices to the computer, but ultimately you're connecting to just one computer. If you shuck it, you do lose the hub functionality but in my case, i place the hard disk in a QNAP NAS which let's me access that drive from multiple computers.
@@accessrandom Weird related question - Is it possible to reuse the SATA board internally (such as mounted to an optical bay, with the proper adjustments) using a SATA cable and the power connector? I've seen online versions of front panel optical/floppy bay USB hubs for sale, but I thought I'd ask since I already own this drive.
*you should do ASMR videos*
Maybe I should start another channel 😊
Valeu ajudou muito
You're welcome 👍 Glad you found it useful.
Less than ideal USB connector on device rear. Two brand new hubs with intermittent USB connection. Despite the cable inserted, theirs or my own, the drive connects/disconnects unless the cable is very specifically held in position. Forget all that, this drive is coming out and going into a Nexstar 3.1 enclosure. Poor workmanship
Жаль, конечно, что все крепления поломались, но всё равно спасибо.
people really need a video for removing the disk? 😆😆
Boy you got the poor smr drive
You can't win them all... larger Western Digitals are the way to go.
I disliked because you did not show us whether the drive has a SATA connector or not, defeating the purpose of this vid. WD drives don't.
he said in the video they are sata
@@justinmason100 Not good enough. Most reviewers just follow a script or product description or what they think they know. Thus, videos are useful so customers can see for themselves.
@@UnitAlir i dont understand your problem, he says in the video that it is sata, and i can tell you from experience that it is sata. you would be hard pressed to find a drive that isn't sata in an external enclosure
@@justinmason100 A lot of external drives are NOT sata. Their USB controllers are soldered on and built in.
@@UnitAlir i have literally never seen that on a drive, and i've shucked 10 of them so far, i wasn't aware that was common