The thing about podcasts is the ones that are wildly successful feature people who already have a following elsewhere allowing them to interview similarly popular people. Rookie creators should not be fooled into think simply starting a podcast will result in similar success.
Any success in podcasting nowadays can only be had if enough people know who you are. The market is oversaturated and people like familiarity. Nobody cares about conversations between nobodies.
People nowdays are lonely and listening to a podcast between 2 people or a group of friends makes us feel part of the conversation that is happening. Also not everyone want to watch TikTok nonstop. I put my headphones on the bus and sit on the front seat and watch the drive to work and home giving my eyes some rest from the phone screen. Also while coding or browsing, it can get boring so it's rarely a movie playing in the background and mostly music or podcast. Also we love podcast for the same reason people used to love radio / talkshows
No. People have just grown up. Teens that used to waste their time on TH-cam watching meaningless are now young adults. They understand the value of education, which podcasts provide
@@boss-iy9bd I don’t think the majority of podcasts educational ones being consumed by connoisseurs of intelligent conversation. Lots of them are crass joking around while high about Bigfoot or theory crafting about intellectual properties.
I absolutely love long form podcasts, As generally speaking, The creators can really do the subject matter justice, and also demonstrate their own ability and knowledge in the subject matter, Or not as the case may be. I also subscribe to many podcasts on Google podcasts, and often listen to them in bed when I can't sleep. Topics such as biology, philosophy, cosmology, physics are all covered by some really amazing creators. Long live the podcast!
@@hasanalharaz7454 Sean Carroll's mindscape is probably my favorite, If you have a taste for slightly more scientifically orientated subjects. He has a broad range of guests, but he is a very smart guy and always asks great questions even in areas outside of his expertise. I also enjoy "philosophy in our time." Some of the guests are really wacky, but some of them are genuinely brilliant and thought provoking. These are normally done in panels of three or more guests in the form of a debate. Lex Fridman Also has a lot of interesting guests and he does very deep dives. My only caveat with him is that I question his authenticity. My latest discovery is a channel on youtube simply called Shaun, But be aware his politics are very left leaning, which works for me but I realize may not be everyone's cup of tea. The reason I like him is he applies strong intellectual rigor in all of his breakdowns, and really challenges a lot of very popular beliefs. I have a lot more but these are probably my favorites at the moment.
What I love about a saturated market is that newer, smaller players are challenged to find creative ways to stand out. The result is innovation which is always exciting. My favorite comedy podcast is shot on green screen, heavy on visuals and sfx and is edited in segments by a team of editors: The Random Order Show
I would say the wave may be getting calmer but content creators and people being propped up in the machine will always be there!!! The machine chooses those who are put in the spotlight!! That’s why this podcasting era may never truly die!!
TH-cam's algorithm relies on the "recommendation media" algorithm in which the platform generally will only recommend similar content to that which you've already seen so if you havn't watched a podcast on youtube before the algorithm should not suddenly start placing them on your home screen.
I really believe that all types of content will soon live within the same amount of popularity and viewer spread around them, since every single type of content fits for the kind of public it seeks I get to see more and more people trying and staying with the things they like. Tv is great production value at scheduled neverending entertainment, shorts just as its name says is shorts for something quick like clips or snipets of information and laughs, longform videos and streaming being an internet experience of their own and audio books and podcasts will stay in the relatively same place, the one good thing about podcasting (that I would have liked to seementioned here) is that it has served to many as a replacement for social interaction since it can be a group of gamers talking about life, a duo of psychologists teaching something and even just one person narrating an event or responding questions. Even in mexico, the president of the country gives speeches almost every morning as a routine to keep in contact with all matters, that is transmitted live by news reporters, those transmissions are also youtube live streams that will stay as a video, the audio of the speech gets turned into a spotify podcast, and most usually when anyone needs some information or citation they will turn into shorts and clips either for memes or for important information. Its a cycle not of content but a way of communicating
I blame Joe Rogan for this!! He was the one that really blew it up and really set it off for everyone else!! And ever since he got that Spotify deal, it was open season for everyone else!! And once again, great video brother!!
Great Video, at 8:00 there is no way that 30% of podcast listeners make an average of $250,000 a year. 26% of US people listen to podcasts every week. Only 1.5% of US people make over $250000 a year.
I been doing longform podcast style shows since 2019, and they will always be around, because people 1) love lives with interaction and 2) they just start to enjoy you personally
Podcasts have been around since before TH-cam existed. Originally it was a thing in iTunes that automatically downloaded new tracks to your iPod that you could listen to offline. Google actually has their own separate Podcast app and website.
There are way too many podcasts and due to their length they are unsustainable. The top will stay on top and the rest will eat each other up. I think we are at the peak now. Everyone's favourite person has a podcast now and they have surprisingly low numbers
I love the new perspectives you give on fields I don't know. Great channel, thanks Hari & crew. (Btw, it's great seeing your confidence and production grow over the years, but please don't sell your soul like many do. It's not about the views, it's about staying true) 👍
The problem with the average TH-cam podcast is that for every hour of talk, there's only 10 minutes worth of meaningful content, usually just showing a bunch of people and microphones, mostly talking about themselves or their sponsors. I'd rather listen to well narrated mini documentaries, like what 'Logically Answered' puts out.
Pretty much. The other minutes consist of them making you feel good and motivated but in reality its not really useful. Soon as you turn it off it goes away lmao
I believe that with podcasts, you are more likely to retain your audience, as they get to know all the intricacies of your life. I would leverage this audience to benefit my other endeavors. For instance, comedians who have podcasts tend to thrive because they establish a strong connection with their audience, increasing the likelihood of them attending their shows.
Have I seen that your editing skills have improved? Hadn’t noticed Podcasts were popular even being a veteran in a new channel. Keep up the good work! The logical answer is that indeed your editing has improved! Keep up the good work, and you’ll get to a million subs in no time! 😊
I think the effect of platform saturation on future growth of a particular podcast , will also come down to the nature of the podcast itself. What I mean is - if a podcast is focusing more on certain subjects/disciplines/concepts/etc (instead of interviews with actual people), and if the subjects covered have a very broad scope that is constantly evolving (e.g. physics, astronomy, computers, AI, futurism, etc), then there will probably be room for growth for quite a long while.
Podcasts are just internet radio, like you said most people listen to podcasts while doing something else which is exactly how people listens to radio and radio it's still around, why would internet radio disappear? And keep in mind that what limited the amount of shows in old radio was that not anybody could transmit, but that's not a problem here.
Yes. I love Lex's podcasts, but there's a natural limit to the number of hours in a day. His conversations are not on a level where I can just binge watch 3 or 4 of them and still retain much of what's been said.
@@vsvishal8853he's an anti intellectual, pretend smart type, maybe appealing for slow people but anyone that actually intelligent finds it extremely cringy. But that just my perspective 😎
Man there’s a podcast for everything these days!! Covering every topic!! Every life event and everyday things that are normal and don’t need to be on a podcast!! Too much!!
I tried podcasts to deafen the sound of existential dread but I've since switched to audio books because of the perceived smartness associated with it. The downside is audio books are boring as hell. You'd think Audible would present good titles, maybe tailor it to you like Spotify, but no. I've only found a handful of really good titles. One criticism of your latest video: I see that you get praise for the new editing, and yes it looks cool and slick but maybe not animate everything, it can be stressful and doesn't necessarily add anything. Keep the humor though because "on & on & on" was kinda funny seeing it written out like that, and in the previous video you had some "sample text" showing, not sure it that was intentional but I laughed a little. The humor also proves you're not AI content...for now. Excellent video as always!
The way "podcast" commentary channels deal with our shrinking attention spans is to literally just play Subway Surfers or Minecraft Parkour in the background. They always feel so low in effort. PNGtubers are a little better, as the video is actually related to the topic. The redeeming feature of PNGtubers is to put stock footage, images, and videos in the background. It's better, though, to just not have a video at all. If video is required to keep a viewer's attention, they can just watch TikTok instead. Best of all are the channels that use only stock footage and images and edit just quickly enough to keep our attention. (Oh and don't forget the captions. We don't all live in a soundproof house 😅)
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Over saturation has been the downfall of podcasts lately. There are too many podcasts about any given topic and too many episodes within each about it. A good chunk of them contribute nothing substantial to the topic but you can’t know in a few minutes you have to listen to most of the podcast. When you do that 3-4 times you’ve wasted several hours. And then every podcast is putting out an episode a day. This works for some but for a lot of interview/debate one this runs the creative well dry very quickly. I’ve been listening to them consistently for years until lately. So many are feeling very shallow.
I like the Casual Criminalist. I'm not sure if he counts, bc I listen to him on youtube. I didn't like the spotify version, because unfortunately it automatically adds ads.
only podcast I listen to is Darknet Diaries and I'm still playing catch up at chapter 65, it's one of the best things to hear if you are into IT security, plus the host have amazing story telling skill kodus to Jack
I'm happy to see more people checking out podcasts instead of quick dopamine videos to improve themselves. I've been publishing my podcast episodes since 2020 and I agree it's like catching a weekly series :)
Intellectual people are now talking in terms of podcasts. Its easy for introverts. Can be listened alongside doing other work. Dont need much data consumption. I'm happy of being a dedicated podcast listener since 2015. Have several platforms from where I listen but never felt its time to move on from podcasts altogether. The categories I get in podcasts, I am yet to see in videos. I have stopped watching movies and shows and given my time to audiobooks and Ebooks and podcasts.
For me, I think NN between length of time is best. In other words, I can’t stand the short form content but I also don’t necessarily want a two hour podcast. One problem with podcasts is, because they tend to be really long, there are just not enough hours in a day to subscribe to more than say three or four podcasts at any given time. I would say I like the length to be no more than an hour, and if the subject requires more than an hour, then maybe divide it into a couple parts instead of trying to cram it all into one episode.
All forms of content follow boom-bust cycles before eventually stabilizing. This will be no different. I predict that the content mill podcasts that people only listen to in order to kill time will die off, but the podcasts where actual interesting discussion happens will stay popular.
Podcasts are definitely a part of my routine especially when I go for a walk. Sometimes it feels like you are a fly on the wall gaining access to information from the world’s most accomplished people.
Low effort to create a podcast, well that is a understatement, there is a lot going on when creating a podcast is not like you sitdown and improvised everything. Sure the editing requires basic skills but it still requires a lot of work behind the scenes
Relatively low compared to an equivalent fully produced video, but as someone who’s typically spends hours per episode just doing the initial cleanup of his own audio, it’s definitely not light work.
I know for me, TH-cam completely replaces both cable TV and radio and the majority of that time for me is spent watching podcasts, albeit with them playing in the background similar to radio.
Podcasts are slow burns, though. Sometimes you don't find a podcast until years later. That's why youtube is so brill. You can just search for podcast name, guest. You also touch on something important. Sometimes a person is interviewed multiple times. When you are downloading on an app, you can't tell which one you are listening to. Here, you can just read the comments and pretty much tell. Even the date is more clear. On the app, you have to search for the podcast title (have to get it exactly right, btw.) Then subscribe, then search back and back and back through the catalog. Sometimes only part of the catalog is listed (WTF - looking at you). Sometimes the host interviews the same guest multiple times or shrinks it to compile it with other best of clips. Whereas on youtube it is straightforward. I don't use TH-cam because i like to pause and come back in between tasks. I watch a wide range of youtube. Sometime I have time for visual, other times I do not. And sadly, youtube doesn't make it easy to pick up on part watched vids weeks later, where podcast apps allow for that. Also, I do save part watched to a separate playlist. But it's just not as convenient.
Podcasts have taken the place that talk radio had in yesteryear. The difference is that the interviews are of higher quality and you can choose what to listen to.
Great video on great topic that not many people talk about as always. I remember I first started watching your video about a year or year a half ago, you only had around 50k or less subs if I remember correctly, now look at you. I would definitely watch your pod cast if you ever decide to start one.
9 months later...ur predictions are correct. Podcasting is oversaturated. Podcasters have branched out into becoming multi media companies. It's not sustainable to just have a podcast where u only talk. There also is a tendency to stir up drama for views. So potential guests have become leery of podcasts.
It's basically reading a book, but I can be driving. It's the best way to get current info from someone. A book takes over a year to get into your hands usually.
i agree with everything you said in the video, specifically that part about how podcasting has hit its peak. about a mouth ago i spent about a mouth listening to Marc Maron’s podcast back catalogue and i must say i enjoyed it very much but i don’t find the need to keep listening to him unless it’s a guest i’m interested in. not only that i find Rogan to be repetitive with guest being mostly non credible. i get tired of Bill Burr and Tom Sugura. i still love their stand up but listening to their podcast every few days to be too much. so yea i totally agree with you that podcast has peaked
In old times, radio would be playing in the background while people work on something. Podcast is just that for modern days. Please don’t tell me that podcasts help you learn anything and retain it to be fruitful in real life. It’s just white noise for 90% of the listeners. Just read a book. I’m not an old man. Just 23.
I am a 36 year old educator and learn lots of new things on an ongoing basis listening to a variety of podcasts. I enjoy podcasts because of the variety.. Old school talk radio is dominated by politics.
@@lilmoo7682 True old school is full of politics but new ones are even worse as they are just mostly opinions of individuals presented as facts. Must research the truth for ourselves.
The Tucker Carlson viewership isn't accurate. If you count all the resposts on TikTok, TH-cam, and Facebook, his popular segments easily surpass the million mark. Just Kyle Rittenhouse interviews garnered 5 million+ on TH-cam alone.
That’s why dating podcast does so well because the void dating has grown now more the ever and as people fail to match make in their own lives the podcast will fill the void they are unable to fill themselves. Kinda sad but kinda true.
considering podcast that talk on one topic or multiple such as true crime podcasts, and engineering podcast, i.e. "Well There's Your Problem," that don't interview but bring guests to talk about certain subjects, or the hosts themselves bring a topic they've done some research in. its more likely folks will find podcasts that also fit their intreset and those types of podcasts are more likely to stick around long term
There is still a lot of room for higher quality podcasts. I know it goes against your first point, but the next wave of upcoming podcasts will have to differentiate themselves on quality to overcome incumbent advantages.
The last podcast I followed every episode of was The Art of LiveOps but it ended in 2022. They had absolutely fantastic guests on, extremely-driven and full of battle-hardened experience and wisdom that can't be found online on how to build a community and manage it. I don't listen to podcasts much anymore though. Peace and quiet is much more enjoyable. I'm more interested in creating my vision of the future and thinking about it while I do stuff.
Podcasting are not only about interviewing guests. There are many podcasts that discuss about news within specific topics like Tech, sports, movies, etc....
Good point on the lifespan of the podcast, the fuel to the system does seem to be based round on how interesting these people are I doubt we'll ever lose interest in other's people stories, there's always demand for that The challenge is finding interesting people to do an interview with I really love your channel, first came about you on the exposing skillshare video. I haven't missed a video since! Your point of views are really interesting Especially on how you find interesting topics to talk about, how do you come up with these ideas? - serious question, I want to get better at brainstorming ideas! Keep up the good work! 😊
I don't even get why these are popular when apps dedicated to podcasts are literally there. I can't imagine how quickly my battery would deplete if I watched podcasts on yt.
You make me laugh with your hour by hour (sometimes minute by minute) contradictions in your views 😂. One of the reasons I still watch your your channel, for the laughs. I mean Bro u literally ping-ponged your stance (from yea to neh) THREE different times in THIS video alone. 😅🤙🏼
Talk shows, interviews, all parts of entertainment since mass media was a thing, this is an evolution of it, and it’ll come out in a different form based on how content consumed in the future.
Podcasts in my opinion are having their golden age now, but will be "less popular" as the industry becomes more saturated, However if the trends of platforms ditching short form content and life becoming more rushed then i think Podcasts will have a probably permanent place in social media. In short: my opinion on this is that while Podcasts are/will have a golden age and an eventual slight decline, they will still hold a permanent place as a very popular outlet of content on social media.
Podcast are really just replacements for late night Tv and radio shows. Some form of it will always exist. Now some podcasters are just ‘sit down and give my opinion’ podcasters as opposed to interviewers and I have less confidence in those and also that just seems like standard youtube without the interviews. I disagree on the work, it’s different but still requires better end production to capitalize on. People with good studio setupsand better quality mics tend to do better then those without them. Networking outside of the podcast is also critical if you want guest. A lot of the most popular podcast have guest you have to know who to reach out to in order to get people to sit down for them.
It's appearing that the issue wasn't shrinking attention spans so much as a constant need for stimulation. Those "mundane" tasks like walking and cooking used to be mental down time that was actually restorative and introspective. Now that void gets filled with two hours of podcast that someone might do well to remember ten minutes of it.
I like podcasts, but fall in and out with them. I avoid unilateral podcast themes where the fear mongering or use of clickbait themes overwhelm the reason for listening. Also I feel some people drag out topics to make them 1 hour. I like blended approach of GMM and podcasting
I find 5-10 minutes works best for me, long pod casts are boring after a while, shorts are too short and irritating after a while. Good content, that is straight to the point, only says what needs to be said is what I think we need. Long intros and bad adverts ruin your channel. This video for example was way too drawn out, I just stated skipping through it.
We call it "Talk Show" on linear television, or "Podcast" if streamed or downloaded. I recall it in 2006, the download was the norm when people still called it "iPod Broadcast" = "Podcast". I'm old - still used a radio to listen to a talkshow on things I like, like astronomy, science, and history. Now such shows have been ported to the digital platforms; they are still an audio affair even if they include the video of the people talking. Nothing new under the Sun!
One of the reasons I pay YT Premium is to hear videos like yours as podcasts... :/ I don't need to watch your videos, I can listen to them while I drive, or while I'm doing the house chores... My question is... do you have a podcast already? and if not... why not?
I think you raise some good points but overall stick a bit to much to the assumption that all podcasts follow an interview format. Over saturation is of course still going to be a concern but podcasts don’t need to be hard coded with interviews and can be about the hosts or relevant topics similar to a radio show
@LogicallyAnswered Podcasts are rapidly evolving from what they used to be. The future of podcasts is no longer limited to listening to celebrities sharing their business achievements or lifestyle. Instead, podcasts are increasingly becoming more niche-specific, such as the Waveform podcast by MKBHD, which delves into ongoing tech news and updates, providing valuable insights to the audience. TH-camrs are recognizing this evolving trend, and will adapt and continue enhancing their content to meet the changing preferences of listeners.
Working on any task a podcast is good company.long trips and daily chores get a spark with an enjoyable podcast. Those factors are never going away. As for any Major trend they eventually fade. But there will always be a consistent need for content that one consumes almost passively while engaged in other activities
The thing about podcasts is the ones that are wildly successful feature people who already have a following elsewhere allowing them to interview similarly popular people. Rookie creators should not be fooled into think simply starting a podcast will result in similar success.
Ur shit has to be good that’s about it
For. Real.
Any success in podcasting nowadays can only be had if enough people know who you are. The market is oversaturated and people like familiarity. Nobody cares about conversations between nobodies.
The term intellectual circle jerk comes to mind.
Podcasts got popular because people are feeling alone and they miss being a part of a conversation
lmaooooo fr
Well, I listen random podcasts for this sole reason.
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No
You might be projecting or maybe people in general just are weak p******.
People nowdays are lonely and listening to a podcast between 2 people or a group of friends makes us feel part of the conversation that is happening. Also not everyone want to watch TikTok nonstop. I put my headphones on the bus and sit on the front seat and watch the drive to work and home giving my eyes some rest from the phone screen. Also while coding or browsing, it can get boring so it's rarely a movie playing in the background and mostly music or podcast. Also we love podcast for the same reason people used to love radio / talkshows
No. People have just grown up. Teens that used to waste their time on TH-cam watching meaningless are now young adults. They understand the value of education, which podcasts provide
@@boss-iy9bd thinking all podcasts are educational is so funny. Majority of podcasts are just hosts shooting the shit.
Darn your right.
@@boss-iy9bd I don’t think the majority of podcasts educational ones being consumed by connoisseurs of intelligent conversation. Lots of them are crass joking around while high about Bigfoot or theory crafting about intellectual properties.
Yes, it's like facebook/instagram for your ears.
You can listen to podcasts while doing other things. That's what I like about them.
Yep haha
As long as the TH-cam app is running.
@@8bitnation419 I have premium
@@watchdealer11 On which site? I have one too on some site.
@@8bitnation419 TH-cam premium
I absolutely love long form podcasts, As generally speaking, The creators can really do the subject matter justice, and also demonstrate their own ability and knowledge in the subject matter, Or not as the case may be. I also subscribe to many podcasts on Google podcasts, and often listen to them in bed when I can't sleep. Topics such as biology, philosophy, cosmology, physics are all covered by some really amazing creators. Long live the podcast!
Can you recommend some good ones?
@@hasanalharaz7454 Sean Carroll's mindscape is probably my favorite, If you have a taste for slightly more scientifically orientated subjects. He has a broad range of guests, but he is a very smart guy and always asks great questions even in areas outside of his expertise. I also enjoy "philosophy in our time." Some of the guests are really wacky, but some of them are genuinely brilliant and thought provoking. These are normally done in panels of three or more guests in the form of a debate. Lex Fridman Also has a lot of interesting guests and he does very deep dives. My only caveat with him is that I question his authenticity. My latest discovery is a channel on youtube simply called Shaun, But be aware his politics are very left leaning, which works for me but I realize may not be everyone's cup of tea. The reason I like him is he applies strong intellectual rigor in all of his breakdowns, and really challenges a lot of very popular beliefs. I have a lot more but these are probably my favorites at the moment.
video quality is low-key getting better with every upload 🔥
awesome work from you guys
Really glad to hear that walid!
What I love about a saturated market is that newer, smaller players are challenged to find creative ways to stand out. The result is innovation which is always exciting. My favorite comedy podcast is shot on green screen, heavy on visuals and sfx and is edited in segments by a team of editors: The Random Order Show
I would say the wave may be getting calmer but content creators and people being propped up in the machine will always be there!!! The machine chooses those who are put in the spotlight!! That’s why this podcasting era may never truly die!!
TH-cam's algorithm relies on the "recommendation media" algorithm in which the platform generally will only recommend similar content to that which you've already seen so if you havn't watched a podcast on youtube before the algorithm should not suddenly start placing them on your home screen.
I really believe that all types of content will soon live within the same amount of popularity and viewer spread around them, since every single type of content fits for the kind of public it seeks I get to see more and more people trying and staying with the things they like.
Tv is great production value at scheduled neverending entertainment, shorts just as its name says is shorts for something quick like clips or snipets of information and laughs, longform videos and streaming being an internet experience of their own and audio books and podcasts will stay in the relatively same place, the one good thing about podcasting (that I would have liked to seementioned here) is that it has served to many as a replacement for social interaction since it can be a group of gamers talking about life, a duo of psychologists teaching something and even just one person narrating an event or responding questions.
Even in mexico, the president of the country gives speeches almost every morning as a routine to keep in contact with all matters, that is transmitted live by news reporters, those transmissions are also youtube live streams that will stay as a video, the audio of the speech gets turned into a spotify podcast, and most usually when anyone needs some information or citation they will turn into shorts and clips either for memes or for important information.
Its a cycle not of content but a way of communicating
I blame Joe Rogan for this!! He was the one that really blew it up and really set it off for everyone else!! And ever since he got that Spotify deal, it was open season for everyone else!! And once again, great video brother!!
Yep pretty much haha
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rogan is for sure the grandaddy of podcasting and tbh its still the best podcast ever. fridman is good too though.
Y’all dumb lmao
howard stern started this gangsta shit nvr forget😭🤞🏾
Great Video, at 8:00 there is no way that 30% of podcast listeners make an average of $250,000 a year. 26% of US people listen to podcasts every week. Only 1.5% of US people make over $250000 a year.
I been doing longform podcast style shows since 2019, and they will always be around, because people 1) love lives with interaction and 2) they just start to enjoy you personally
Podcasts have been around since before TH-cam existed. Originally it was a thing in iTunes that automatically downloaded new tracks to your iPod that you could listen to offline. Google actually has their own separate Podcast app and website.
But I think TH-cam popularized the form and introduced it to even greater audiences.
There are way too many podcasts and due to their length they are unsustainable. The top will stay on top and the rest will eat each other up. I think we are at the peak now. Everyone's favourite person has a podcast now and they have surprisingly low numbers
I love the new perspectives you give on fields I don't know. Great channel, thanks Hari & crew.
(Btw, it's great seeing your confidence and production grow over the years, but please don't sell your soul like many do. It's not about the views, it's about staying true) 👍
btw2, please don't get corrupted like my ex-professor did when the dollah dallah bill y'all flashed in his eyes
Really appreciate the feedback Johnny :)
The problem with the average TH-cam podcast is that for every hour of talk, there's only 10 minutes worth of meaningful content, usually just showing a bunch of people and microphones, mostly talking about themselves or their sponsors. I'd rather listen to well narrated mini documentaries, like what 'Logically Answered' puts out.
What of chael sonnen podcast on yt?
Pretty much. The other minutes consist of them making you feel good and motivated but in reality its not really useful. Soon as you turn it off it goes away lmao
I believe that with podcasts, you are more likely to retain your audience, as they get to know all the intricacies of your life. I would leverage this audience to benefit my other endeavors. For instance, comedians who have podcasts tend to thrive because they establish a strong connection with their audience, increasing the likelihood of them attending their shows.
Your videos are really really insightful, please make more videos on social media platforms, their features and future!
Have I seen that your editing skills have improved? Hadn’t noticed Podcasts were popular even being a veteran in a new channel. Keep up the good work! The logical answer is that indeed your editing has improved! Keep up the good work, and you’ll get to a million subs in no time! 😊
Thanks for the support Aether! Definitely trying to increase production value
yeah my personal favourite podcast is Trash Taste since its pretty chill and the community is surprisingly active especially in reddit
I think the effect of platform saturation on future growth of a particular podcast , will also come down to the nature of the podcast itself. What I mean is - if a podcast is focusing more on certain subjects/disciplines/concepts/etc (instead of interviews with actual people), and if the subjects covered have a very broad scope that is constantly evolving (e.g. physics, astronomy, computers, AI, futurism, etc), then there will probably be room for growth for quite a long while.
Podcasts are just internet radio, like you said most people listen to podcasts while doing something else which is exactly how people listens to radio and radio it's still around, why would internet radio disappear? And keep in mind that what limited the amount of shows in old radio was that not anybody could transmit, but that's not a problem here.
15 minutes is a great length for a youtube video. That's my favorite length.
I like half an hour
As a Lex Friedman listener I tend to max out on just one podcast per week given his conversations are 3 to 4 hours long.
Yes. I love Lex's podcasts, but there's a natural limit to the number of hours in a day. His conversations are not on a level where I can just binge watch 3 or 4 of them and still retain much of what's been said.
@@DanLyndon why is it dumb, doesn't he reference scientific studies? So it's not like he's lying right?
@@vsvishal8853he's an anti intellectual, pretend smart type, maybe appealing for slow people but anyone that actually intelligent finds it extremely cringy. But that just my perspective 😎
Lex is for people trying to fall asleep. He is horrible.
I feel that not every podcast needs to be an hour or two. Sometimes they can be as short as 30 minutes.
I agree. Besides the loads of misinformation issue from his podcast, I avoid Rogan because he just talks to much about nothing.
Man there’s a podcast for everything these days!! Covering every topic!! Every life event and everyday things that are normal and don’t need to be on a podcast!! Too much!!
Yep, an equilibrium is inevitable
Even youtubers like parrot have podcasts
Idk man, I was really stoked when I found this podcast about paraplegic bisexuals that skydive in Saudi Arabia
Hauri, your channel is my favorite over all because you keep me thinking and informed so keep it up.
In my opinion, Podcasts are teaching people how to have adult conversations whether they have conflicting opinions or not.
I tried podcasts to deafen the sound of existential dread but I've since switched to audio books because of the perceived smartness associated with it.
The downside is audio books are boring as hell. You'd think Audible would present good titles, maybe tailor it to you like Spotify, but no.
I've only found a handful of really good titles.
One criticism of your latest video: I see that you get praise for the new editing, and yes it looks cool and slick but maybe not animate everything, it can be stressful and doesn't necessarily add anything.
Keep the humor though because "on & on & on" was kinda funny seeing it written out like that, and in the previous video you had some "sample text" showing, not sure it that was intentional but I laughed a little. The humor also proves you're not AI content...for now.
Excellent video as always!
The way "podcast" commentary channels deal with our shrinking attention spans is to literally just play Subway Surfers or Minecraft Parkour in the background. They always feel so low in effort. PNGtubers are a little better, as the video is actually related to the topic. The redeeming feature of PNGtubers is to put stock footage, images, and videos in the background. It's better, though, to just not have a video at all. If video is required to keep a viewer's attention, they can just watch TikTok instead. Best of all are the channels that use only stock footage and images and edit just quickly enough to keep our attention. (Oh and don't forget the captions. We don't all live in a soundproof house 😅)
So Hari, when can we expect the Logically Explained podcast? You can interview other no face youtubers like magnates media and sunnyv2
Hahaha, gotta be selling the shovels during a gold rush :)
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i don't listen to podcasts. but dam, i didn't know they are so huge. man love your videos, i swere your channel is so unique. keep it up bro.
They thought people wanted to be constantly entertained, but more than anything people just want connection.
Over saturation has been the downfall of podcasts lately. There are too many podcasts about any given topic and too many episodes within each about it. A good chunk of them contribute nothing substantial to the topic but you can’t know in a few minutes you have to listen to most of the podcast. When you do that 3-4 times you’ve wasted several hours. And then every podcast is putting out an episode a day. This works for some but for a lot of interview/debate one this runs the creative well dry very quickly. I’ve been listening to them consistently for years until lately. So many are feeling very shallow.
I love podcasts, have for years. But not on TH-cam.
Podcasts are great for language learning passively doing the chores
Best of luck to you!
hearing you say that intro is like music to my ears
to me that gives me hope.
thank you logically answered
Sports podcast will never die bro. There's always something to talk about
Can't stand podcasts (who on earth has time to listen to them), but grateful for this breakdown to understand them better.
I like the Casual Criminalist. I'm not sure if he counts, bc I listen to him on youtube. I didn't like the spotify version, because unfortunately it automatically adds ads.
only podcast I listen to is Darknet Diaries and I'm still playing catch up at chapter 65, it's one of the best things to hear if you are into IT security, plus the host have amazing story telling skill kodus to Jack
can’t recommend jack rhysider enough, especially if you are into cybersecurity
Best podcast. I think he puts a lot of effort into his editing.
I'm happy to see more people checking out podcasts instead of quick dopamine videos to improve themselves. I've been publishing my podcast episodes since 2020 and I agree it's like catching a weekly series :)
I listen to the Trackstarz’ podcast, dope music and convos 🔥🔥
Intellectual people are now talking in terms of podcasts. Its easy for introverts. Can be listened alongside doing other work. Dont need much data consumption. I'm happy of being a dedicated podcast listener since 2015. Have several platforms from where I listen but never felt its time to move on from podcasts altogether. The categories I get in podcasts, I am yet to see in videos. I have stopped watching movies and shows and given my time to audiobooks and Ebooks and podcasts.
For me, I think NN between length of time is best. In other words, I can’t stand the short form content but I also don’t necessarily want a two hour podcast. One problem with podcasts is, because they tend to be really long, there are just not enough hours in a day to subscribe to more than say three or four podcasts at any given time. I would say I like the length to be no more than an hour, and if the subject requires more than an hour, then maybe divide it into a couple parts instead of trying to cram it all into one episode.
All forms of content follow boom-bust cycles before eventually stabilizing. This will be no different. I predict that the content mill podcasts that people only listen to in order to kill time will die off, but the podcasts where actual interesting discussion happens will stay popular.
Podcasts are definitely a part of my routine especially when I go for a walk. Sometimes it feels like you are a fly on the wall gaining access to information from the world’s most accomplished people.
Literally listening to this video on the way home from work like a podcast lol
Low effort to create a podcast, well that is a understatement, there is a lot going on when creating a podcast is not like you sitdown and improvised everything. Sure the editing requires basic skills but it still requires a lot of work behind the scenes
Relatively low compared to an equivalent fully produced video, but as someone who’s typically spends hours per episode just doing the initial cleanup of his own audio, it’s definitely not light work.
For the money they make , it’s low effort content , 2+ hours with 20mid roll ad + one sponsor or two.
It’s the reality tv for voice.
Why is Joe Rogan’s content uploaded as “videos” instead of Podcasts or Live?
Interesting points, but this editing style is giving me whiplash.
I know for me, TH-cam completely replaces both cable TV and radio and the majority of that time for me is spent watching podcasts, albeit with them playing in the background similar to radio.
Podcasts are slow burns, though. Sometimes you don't find a podcast until years later. That's why youtube is so brill. You can just search for podcast name, guest. You also touch on something important. Sometimes a person is interviewed multiple times. When you are downloading on an app, you can't tell which one you are listening to. Here, you can just read the comments and pretty much tell. Even the date is more clear. On the app, you have to search for the podcast title (have to get it exactly right, btw.) Then subscribe, then search back and back and back through the catalog. Sometimes only part of the catalog is listed (WTF - looking at you). Sometimes the host interviews the same guest multiple times or shrinks it to compile it with other best of clips. Whereas on youtube it is straightforward. I don't use TH-cam because i like to pause and come back in between tasks. I watch a wide range of youtube. Sometime I have time for visual, other times I do not. And sadly, youtube doesn't make it easy to pick up on part watched vids weeks later, where podcast apps allow for that. Also, I do save part watched to a separate playlist. But it's just not as convenient.
Podcasts have taken the place that talk radio had in yesteryear. The difference is that the interviews are of higher quality and you can choose what to listen to.
Great video on great topic that not many people talk about as always. I remember I first started watching your video about a year or year a half ago, you only had around 50k or less subs if I remember correctly, now look at you. I would definitely watch your pod cast if you ever decide to start one.
9 months later...ur predictions are correct. Podcasting is oversaturated. Podcasters have branched out into becoming multi media companies. It's not sustainable to just have a podcast where u only talk. There also is a tendency to stir up drama for views. So potential guests have become leery of podcasts.
Our Attention span is decreasing, it Just doesn't Automatically mean that people won't watch Long Term content.
It's basically reading a book, but I can be driving. It's the best way to get current info from someone. A book takes over a year to get into your hands usually.
On one side we have people who want to learn.
And on the other we have mindless scrolling zombies.
12:24 podcasting is definitely NOT over saturated. Demand is increasing but supply is unstable and inconsistent.
I listen to podcasts all day at work! I learn so much throughout the day!
Avoid Rogan. He mostly has quacks on his show. Niel DeGrasse Tyson and real experts are far and few between.
I feel like podcast are not taking over youtube but I will say they are getting popular and known on the platform and great video man :]
i agree with everything you said in the video, specifically that part about how podcasting has hit its peak. about a mouth ago i spent about a mouth listening to Marc Maron’s podcast back catalogue and i must say i enjoyed it very much but i don’t find the need to keep listening to him unless it’s a guest i’m interested in. not only that i find Rogan to be repetitive with guest being mostly non credible. i get tired of Bill Burr and Tom Sugura. i still love their stand up but listening to their podcast every few days to be too much. so yea i totally agree with you that podcast has peaked
In old times, radio would be playing in the background while people work on something. Podcast is just that for modern days. Please don’t tell me that podcasts help you learn anything and retain it to be fruitful in real life. It’s just white noise for 90% of the listeners. Just read a book.
I’m not an old man. Just 23.
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I am a 36 year old educator and learn lots of new things on an ongoing basis listening to a variety of podcasts. I enjoy podcasts because of the variety.. Old school talk radio is dominated by politics.
@@lilmoo7682 True old school is full of politics but new ones are even worse as they are just mostly opinions of individuals presented as facts. Must research the truth for ourselves.
90% are just people rambling about things , I go no time for that.
The Tucker Carlson viewership isn't accurate. If you count all the resposts on TikTok, TH-cam, and Facebook, his popular segments easily surpass the million mark. Just Kyle Rittenhouse interviews garnered 5 million+ on TH-cam alone.
Ah yeah, fair point
That’s why dating podcast does so well because the void dating has grown now more the ever and as people fail to match make in their own lives the podcast will fill the void they are unable to fill themselves. Kinda sad but kinda true.
considering podcast that talk on one topic or multiple such as true crime podcasts, and engineering podcast, i.e. "Well There's Your Problem," that don't interview but bring guests to talk about certain subjects, or the hosts themselves bring a topic they've done some research in. its more likely folks will find podcasts that also fit their intreset and those types of podcasts are more likely to stick around long term
There is still a lot of room for higher quality podcasts. I know it goes against your first point, but the next wave of upcoming podcasts will have to differentiate themselves on quality to overcome incumbent advantages.
the podcast trend is the "have a cartoon profile photo and do commentary" and "Counter strike gameplay while reacting"
I love podcasts that have video form on TH-cam :)
The last podcast I followed every episode of was The Art of LiveOps but it ended in 2022. They had absolutely fantastic guests on, extremely-driven and full of battle-hardened experience and wisdom that can't be found online on how to build a community and manage it.
I don't listen to podcasts much anymore though. Peace and quiet is much more enjoyable. I'm more interested in creating my vision of the future and thinking about it while I do stuff.
It’s replacing MSM news, THANKFULLY!
Podcasts hosts suck very often is why some don’t grow as well
Ayyyy my boy arun got a shout-out
Podcasts DO have sound design and still have plenty of advertising spread throughout that 30 minutes to an hour
Podcasting are not only about interviewing guests. There are many podcasts that discuss about news within specific topics like Tech, sports, movies, etc....
Good point on the lifespan of the podcast, the fuel to the system does seem to be based round on how interesting these people are
I doubt we'll ever lose interest in other's people stories, there's always demand for that
The challenge is finding interesting people to do an interview with
I really love your channel, first came about you on the exposing skillshare video. I haven't missed a video since!
Your point of views are really interesting
Especially on how you find interesting topics to talk about, how do you come up with these ideas? - serious question, I want to get better at brainstorming ideas!
Keep up the good work! 😊
I don't even get why these are popular when apps dedicated to podcasts are literally there. I can't imagine how quickly my battery would deplete if I watched podcasts on yt.
1:52 WTF i thought i was paying TH-cam Premium for that lol🤣
Darknet Diaries is my favourite podcast.
Its funny how "radio hosts" are becoming relevant again
You make me laugh with your hour by hour (sometimes minute by minute) contradictions in your views 😂. One of the reasons I still watch your your channel, for the laughs.
I mean Bro u literally ping-ponged your stance (from yea to neh) THREE different times in THIS video alone. 😅🤙🏼
Talk shows, interviews, all parts of entertainment since mass media was a thing, this is an evolution of it, and it’ll come out in a different form based on how content consumed in the future.
Podcasts in my opinion are having their golden age now, but will be "less popular" as the industry becomes more saturated, However if the trends of platforms ditching short form content and life becoming more rushed then i think Podcasts will have a probably permanent place in social media. In short: my opinion on this is that while Podcasts are/will have a golden age and an eventual slight decline, they will still hold a permanent place as a very popular outlet of content on social media.
Podcast are really just replacements for late night Tv and radio shows. Some form of it will always exist. Now some podcasters are just ‘sit down and give my opinion’ podcasters as opposed to interviewers and I have less confidence in those and also that just seems like standard youtube without the interviews. I disagree on the work, it’s different but still requires better end production to capitalize on. People with good studio setupsand better quality mics tend to do better then those without them. Networking outside of the podcast is also critical if you want guest. A lot of the most popular podcast have guest you have to know who to reach out to in order to get people to sit down for them.
It's appearing that the issue wasn't shrinking attention spans so much as a constant need for stimulation.
Those "mundane" tasks like walking and cooking used to be mental down time that was actually restorative and introspective.
Now that void gets filled with two hours of podcast that someone might do well to remember ten minutes of it.
Yall need to make yall mind up. First is was Short form content is the future to now "its dying".
Kevin sameuls popularized it. It was always around before
I just like getting more content from creators that I already like.
I like podcasts, but fall in and out with them. I avoid unilateral podcast themes where the fear mongering or use of clickbait themes overwhelm the reason for listening. Also I feel some people drag out topics to make them 1 hour. I like blended approach of GMM and podcasting
6:43 Exactly the reason I like to watch your videos. High production value content
I dont like podcasts. Most of the podcasts always talk about random things. I don't like the inconsistency. Plus they are boring.
I find 5-10 minutes works best for me, long pod casts are boring after a while, shorts are too short and irritating after a while. Good content, that is straight to the point, only says what needs to be said is what I think we need. Long intros and bad adverts ruin your channel. This video for example was way too drawn out, I just stated skipping through it.
The Mr. Beast style videos appeal more to kids than adults. All that "action" is annoying to my adult mind
We call it "Talk Show" on linear television, or "Podcast" if streamed or downloaded.
I recall it in 2006, the download was the norm when people still called it "iPod Broadcast" = "Podcast".
I'm old - still used a radio to listen to a talkshow on things I like, like astronomy, science, and history. Now such shows have been ported to the digital platforms; they are still an audio affair even if they include the video of the people talking.
Nothing new under the Sun!
One of the reasons I pay YT Premium is to hear videos like yours as podcasts... :/ I don't need to watch your videos, I can listen to them while I drive, or while I'm doing the house chores... My question is... do you have a podcast already? and if not... why not?
I think you raise some good points but overall stick a bit to much to the assumption that all podcasts follow an interview format. Over saturation is of course still going to be a concern but podcasts don’t need to be hard coded with interviews and can be about the hosts or relevant topics similar to a radio show
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Podcasts are rapidly evolving from what they used to be. The future of podcasts is no longer limited to listening to celebrities sharing their business achievements or lifestyle. Instead, podcasts are increasingly becoming more niche-specific, such as the Waveform podcast by MKBHD, which delves into ongoing tech news and updates, providing valuable insights to the audience.
TH-camrs are recognizing this evolving trend, and will adapt and continue enhancing their content to meet the changing preferences of listeners.
I cycle through many podcasts, but My First Million, Huberman Lab, Found My Fitness, The Drive are a few of my recent favorites.
Working on any task a podcast is good company.long trips and daily chores get a spark with an enjoyable podcast. Those factors are never going away. As for any Major trend they eventually fade. But there will always be a consistent need for content that one consumes almost passively while engaged in other activities