The Great Gatsby, Lost in Adaptation ~ Dominic Noble
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- A comparison of Baz Luhrmann's 2013 film adaptation of The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald.
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“Gatsby was literally glowing”
Yep that’ll be the radium
This joke is vastly underappreciated
Great joke, old sport!
that damn "vitality" water will get ya every time
I like to now imagine that Gatsby canonically drinks radiated water on a normal occurrence, and that if Wilson didn’t end his streak early then he would have pulled off a Eben Byers
Personal anecdote, my high school English teacher always told her classes to picture Leonardo DiCaprio as Gatsby, because people always had a hard time picturing the character. She told my class to picture someone "everyday", like Tobey Maguire as Nick Caraway.
I'm half convinced she was secretly involved in the movie, lol. She had been saying DiCaprio as Gatsby since the early 2000s
Lol to be fair that was like peak spiderman and titanic popularity
@@MonsterPrincessLalaTitanic was 1997 to be fair...
Fun fact: Leo DiCaprio and Tobey Maguire are BFFs in real life, so Gatsby and Nick's relationship feels even more organic.
That is actually really cool to know!
Also Leo was supposed to play Spider-Man in a scraped 90s rated R movie. They have a lot in common.
@@Unnlikable I...cannot see Leo as Spider-Man personally.
Reminds me of the story that Andrew Garfield and Jesse Eisenberg became good friends while making The Social Network, so it was really hard for them to act out the scenes where their characters are horrible to each other.
What is an organic friendship?
Dear Dom!
About the „drunk only twice“ line: I always interpreted it as „the second time he drank he just kept drinking“ which resulted in him becoming an alcoholic. As in slipping from one party to another to another.
Like the song, "What's the use of getting sober / When you have to get drunk again?"
Could also be that because they wanted a narrator they weirdly mashed together the characteristics of Nick and the actual author of the book
Honestly, I thought he was in denial about his alcoholism. He mentions drinking a couple of times in the books and in this adaptation he is frequently seen with a drink in his hand.
@@lindaschreifels9889 And that makes perfect sense for Nick.
Yeah this is the first review of Dom's where I felt like he really didn't understand the book at all. I'm sure we have an advantage in the US, since we study this book in school and it's also a huge part of our culture, but I don't think it's difficult to follow these things even for Brits.
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I personally would have preferred the TH-camr formally known as "The Dom."
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Aw, I thought he was gonna start calling himself The Inic :(
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It's hard not to get a good performance from Leo, but I think Tobey Maguire is really underrated in this movie as well. He gives the story ground, and makes Nick a likable character as well.
i agree. i think Tobey gets too much shit for Spiderman. he was great in this.
Actually, while not being Toby's fault, that was something I disliked about this adaptation - in the book Nick is absolutely not a likable character, he's insanely hypocritical, hugely egotistical and is seen to be unreliable narrator at times
@@Pegettisauce i just read the book and i did not get that at all
@@Tiggster-qr8mw Nick was insanely hypocritical and very bias(while trying to convince/lie to the read, that he was unbias). The author was trying to display that Nick was a liar and wasn't morally pure(was dealing with issues of immorality).
This is very evident throughout the book, when you look into the author. The bedroom scene was a very clear example of this, the Author had(on many occasions) written about how homosexuals fascinated him. He came to the viewpoint of homosexual men being of weak morals, that any man could be homosexual, if their morals faltered.
What this inadvertently did however, was turn Nick into a closted queer man. His obsession with Gatsby and directly stated attraction to Tom, all made it clear that he was more interested in men, than he was with women.
The Author didn't mean to make a closted gay character, but his obsession with morality and equating sexuality to morality, along with his ignorance towards most of queer culture, led to his accidentally writting one of the most well written closted characters(because no one "knew" he was gay, not even the author).
@@Cole_McGill a) yes nick very clearly has a crush on Gatsby, especially in the movie. That was most definitely intentional. b) you’re looking too deep into a story hon
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I really want to see a tremendously low-budget adaptation called The Okay Gatsby.
This made me choke on my water
I was thinking that another title for that would be The Least Gatsby, but still an awesome idea
The Medioce Gatsby.
I don’t think it’s up on TH-cam just yet, but the independent theatre troupe TheHeartyMeal created an original adaptation called The Pretty Good Gatsby
The 'eh' gatsby
Wasn't there a scene in the book where Nick left the mistress's party with a Male artist and then there is, like, a three hour time skip and we fade back in to the artist in bed (wearing nothing but his underwear) showing his portfolio to Nick, who was sitting in a chair next to the bed?
yes, every adaptation has unfortunately excluded that scene when I think it's pretty important
And they always scoot right on past the elevator scene with the lever
Humorous anecdote: one of the senior classes at my high school did a stage adaptation of Great Gatsby as their class play, and the above scene wasn't shown, but during the party the artist wanted Nick to leave the room with him and said something like "I could show you my ~portfolio~!" Spoken, of course, in the overdramatic style of a high school performer, with the implication that the artist really wanted to show off his portfolio. The audience being mostly teenagers, that got the biggest laugh of the night.
I like how that scene demonstrates how even the 1920s had its fair share of queer people.
Dom missed all the gay coding 😄
The narration and Mental Asylum plot was actually taken from a different Fitzgerald story and from an unused plot Fitzgerald wanted to use. Fitzgerald originally had Nick ending in an Asylum but scrapped it for what he gave us, instead. Baz used it to have the accuracy of the book narration while still staying true to the sentiment and feel of the story.
It's also why Nick starts out by telling us the story, then we see him writing and finally typing. Those three steps were Fitzgerald's process of writing stories. He would tell them to friends and then write them out before finally typing it. Baz talks about all this in the bonus features.
Also, I LOVED the original book and felt that this film was a Wonderful adaptation. Best book to movie I've ever seen in my life. The music was a perfect symmetrical representation of what jazz was like, culturally, back then. It was seen as crass music that only illiterate uneducated people listened to. Much like rap and techno today. People who like those are made fun of or looked down on as having no "taste (aka class or education)."
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...As someone who dislikes this adaption, I can say Dominic’s pretty spot-on as to the reasons why.
In the end, it comes down to tone. The book is subtle, ironic and reflective, and while that makes it a somber read I think it works better for a story about disillusionment. That is lost when presented as a fantasized, over-the-top melodrama.
If you want to speak to the tragedy of Gatsby’s delusions of grandeur, it has to be contrasted with the indifferent, unromantic reality that ultimately kills him. The tone matches the theme when his idealistic fantasies come crashing into reality. But if the tone is always stylized and dramatized without a break, if everything from Gatsby’s parties to the Valley of the Ashes are filtered through a Moulin Rouge aesthetic, then the impact is diluted. There is no reality for Gatsby’s fantasies to crash into when the whole film feels like a fantasy. As such, the themes of the story and the aesthetic/tone of the adaption constantly clashes for me.
With that said, I respect Dominic’s enjoyment of the film and I appreciate him voicing problems people might have with it.
Totally agree. I was really impressed with Dominic's awareness of how other people might view this adaption, whilst so articulately putting across his own views.
I almost wish Baz had directed the parts with Gatsby himself, the parties, the extravagance, New York the first time, maybe even Tom and Daisy's fun wealthy aspects, but someone else had covered the rest. Because some of it really works with his style, and having something clash so much like different directors, potentially even having them work together in some scenes with the transitions, could be really impactful. Entire color palette, camera style and angles, potentially even some sets and costumes be different. I think it could have really driven that contrast and the point home in a visual way.
@@starcrash-ash6061 I really agree with the over-romanticization part. That's the reason why people who are only familiar with this film adaptation don't realize what the story is really about. This, coupled with Leonardo DiCaprio in the lead, made viewers think it was some tragic love story about "poor Gatsby, he loved Daisy so much, he did everything for her"" and "Daisy is an evil gold-digger who didn't really care about him". These people need to realize that Gatsby's love was based on fantasy and his desire to be part of the wealthy elite as much a part of his goal as was possessing Daisy. Many of Gatsby's negative character traits are either glossed over or completely left out of the film. It is a sad story, but not really a love story.
Yeah, Baz was not a good choice for directing The Great Gatsby in the first place.
Damn, you pulled my thoughts right out of my brain!
I really enjoyed this adaptation of Gatsby, as I feel the exaggerated aesthetic and the rap music complemented the time period better than just a flat historic recreation of the roaring 20's. It added an unreality to a story already brimming with coincidences out the wazoo.
Andrew Scarpati I totally agree.
Andrew Scarpati I heavily disagree the music killed the movie I hate rap as it is and hearing that in a movie set in the 20s was even worst
@@killerfoxraspberryplays8903 -- Correct, but, on the positive side, the rap music effectively underscored the "human trash" nature of the rich and of Gatsby.
I felt that electro swing would have better suited the film as it could keep the distinctive sound of the 20’s whist adding a modern flair
DisneyDreamworks Dork electro swing word been good put not hip hop rap junk
You did a fantastic job with this one, Dom. And I adored the intro; I personally prefer seeing you hold up the glass over Leo.
Exactly ! Mine too ! Love you both !
Did anyone else read this in Rose’s sweet sing song voice? (In your head, I don’t mean actually)
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The names Noble, Dominic Noble, I like my adaptations loyal, not in name😉
DID not expect this to get so much attention😂
socially inept spider-man this is perfect! Please argue (and allow) him making it his theme/motto
That's awesome, I hope he sees this and uses it.
More likes, more comments, this should be seen. 🙃
@@vamp_bat_chompAgreed, but I'm not sure if it's a reference to something.
I mean, it IS a great joke xD
The fainting wedding crasher is a metaphor Gatsby himself. It's the comparison of the crasher and Gatsby both trying to disrupt Daisy and Tom's marriage, but ultimately failing in dramatic fashion and ending up with loss of consciousness, then everyone moving on as if nothing had ever happened.
The Great Gatsby was one of the few required books in High School I actually enjoyed.
Rikusgirl001 when I was in AP English Lit, The Great Gatsby was one of the books we read. This was also around the time that the 2013 version was released in theaters, so we ended up going on a field trip to see it.
I had a choice between Gatsby and The Catcher in the Rye. I unfortunately chose Catcher... it was one of only 2 books I outright hated reading in High School. I got a chance to read Gatsby later and loved it, to the point I bought a copy of it for myself so I could revisit it whenever I want.
I am weird and I enjoyed reading Macbeth. Though I also enjoyed reading The Book Thief.
@@yogeebear2599 Lol, last year I read those too in Literature.
i liked Gatsby, Of Mice and Men, The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks, and Night. Then I hated Fahrenheit 451. The others I didn't have much of an opinion, I liked and disliked aspects of them (Things Fall Apart is the only one that comes to mind) or they were too short or were plays or Shakespeare (Hamlet was the best we read)
I'm a little late to the party (get it?) but this is definitely my favorite adaptation of this book. It's the only movie version that captures the surreal nature of the excessive partying and decadence experienced by Americans who lived during the economic boom of the 1920s. It's the only adaptation that really shows the "Roaring 20s" while the others are fine with a more "Friends Over For Tea and Discuss Business" 20s.
Straight out of the BDSM frying pan straight into the Doctor Who fire
Glad I'm not the only one who thought of a gender-flipped Donna Noble.
Thank you so much because this genuinely made me laugh
Oh, snap
The actress who played Sally Sparrow in Blink also plays Daisy in this!
On twitter he was confused why everyone went straight to Doctor Who references. Apparently in England Noble is a super common last name, while over here it's near non-existent so Doctor Who is basically everyone's only exposure to anyone with that name.
The Do---- first name doesn't help.
"Once is enough for the (2013) The Great Gatsby."
I'm gonna have to disagree with you, old sport. I rewatch it every week and have a spiritual moment as the "young and beautiful" scene plays.
edit: they actually did film the scenes you mentioned that were left out; gatsby's dad visiting, jordan and nick's romance, nick confronting tom, etc. i'm guessing they left it out because it would make the film far too long in it's 2 hour existence, and dragging it out for people who aren't as invested in the plot.
I would have rather saw that then the entire first hour of the movie being dedicated to Tom and Daisy and his affair. I love the young and beautiful scene too.
That's what an extended cut is for but I guess they just didn't care enough to release it...
I never met Fitzgerald myself to confirm, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't using the hollow version of "literally". While people can't actually be bioluminescent to give off our own light, there are factors (such as youth, very good health, excitement, or first sometimes second degree burns) that some people can have that makes their skin reflect light in a way that is commonly described as a type of "glow". That and Gatsby had very good lighting in his home thanks to his fancy chandeliers and such. I don't think it's a stretch to assume that passage was meant to convey his face was actually shining a little while he was so happy.
I know you’re being sarcastic about ppl glowing, but humans can glow somewhat under UV light (teeth glowing, skin patterns)
@@VorpalSpider69 I wasn't being sarcastic
@@ThePhantomTomo he was definitely using it as an intensifier. However, there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing so. Literally every well-known author in English and American literature since the late 1600s had used it that way until the early 1900s, including giants like Jane Austen, Mark Twain, Charles Dickens, and John Dryden. Ambrose Bierce was an idiot.
@@RabblesTheBinx intensifier is a good way to describe it.
the concept that someone is glowing is fairly commonly used as a descriptor and there's more than one definition of the term. It doesn't just mean emitting light(or whatever the scientific terminology for that is).
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Yep
The way I view it, the 1974 film captured the settings and actions of the book while the 2013 film captured the spirit and emotions.
I feel the same about Baz. The 1920's setting became what we now imagine it had been like in his hands. It has become almost a mythical age and I think he was perfect to capture that certain feeling.
It begun in the 1950's with the Technicolor musical boom wanting shining, textured, dynamic costumes that fit the "modern" sensibility. It directly impacted the future aesthetic of the decade and now alongside Peaky Blinders, it has formed the definitive pseudo-modern view
If you are getting your interpretation of an entire decade from a director then I suggest you are a pathetic, moronic individual.
Nick was gay for Gatsby and y'all know it.
Can't blame him
As someone who didn't really like the book; I will admit that I do agree with this. I so agree on this.
Heck yeah he was XD
Jordan was a lesbian in love with Daisy
I spent so much time reading the book and watching the movie just thinking "Just kiss!!!"
The majority of ny class lasy year thought they were definitely gay, or at least Nick was. Especially since the play for this school year was The Great Gatsby. lol
Still a little disappointed you didn’t go with “Sir Dominic Noble”.
The Noble Sir Dominic Noble, Noble of Nobleshire and Sir of Sircester
Well, yeah, he hasn't been knighted!
Kinsey Croissant His last name’s not Noble either. What’s your point?
Yeah, being British it would actually be in very bad taste for him to call himself 'sir' without having been knighted. OTOH, he could potentially add an esq(uire) to his name, since that doesn't really have a single set meaning.
@@LPSgirl00 yet...
Having read this book and watched the movie in my English class, this actually cleared up some issues I had through our lessons. It hadn't connected for me that Gatsby wanted to force Daisy to conform to his mental image of her, only that he wanted her to specify that she never loved Tom because she still loved Gatsby. I will recommend my teacher to watch this video and possibly modify her lessons with that in mind. Amazing video, I love your work!
Your eloquence and ability to wittily sum up plots of books never cease to delight me.
I liked the book, but the movie glamourizes the extreme wealth and opulence instead of criticizing it
Naomi B Does it? I found it kinda verging on the gross. Which might be the point.
I’d argue this is a case of Poe’s Law - we can’t tell if it’s parody or sincere, especially since our society is so happy to romanticize opulence (so long as it’s historical, not current)
I feel like they didn't quite get gatsby's complete disregard of his own wealth. Gatsby doesn't give a crap about parties or shirts or cars. He gives a shit about Daisy
you didn't understood the movie if you think so - the plot is the same and it is the story which criticises exactly that.
The way I personally saw it, the movie used the glamourization as the critique. It did a great job of getting me swept in the furvor and amazement of the wealthy life despite how bonkers ridiculous it got, and then hit me hard with reality when the tragic stuff really started to happen.
I loved Moulin Rouge, so I was honestly totally into the movie. The bombastic style felt like a deconstruction of it at times
I love Baz Luhrmann's style. I understand why people don't; it's cinematic cheese, but it's damned good cheese.
Exactly! Most things we call cheesy barely make it to Cheez -whiz with Coca-Cola and popcorn.
Luhrman's cheese is a perfectly aged camembert served with a good Sauterne and ripe fruit.
@@devilcat17 agreed even tho its cheesy it's got heart
Yes! Everything looks so fake and superficial. All that CGI... But in the end... Isn't the story about fake and superficial people?
"Sorry, there wasn't really a purpose to that" - Definition of Baz Luhramn's style.
You're still The Dom in my heart... ok it DOES sound way to sexual...
I actually thought he was a BDSM enthusiast when I came across his Fifty Shades videos lol.
@@JamesLawner Who isn't a BDSM enthusiast tho?
@@liamwalton4183 E L James, for one.
@@liamwalton4183 shots fired
@@JamesLawner Same..
I really like Baz Lurhmann's choice to make the visuals and music more modern and decadent. He gave it the vibe that someone from the 20s would have experienced; that everything is brand new and outlandish compared to previous decades. When other adaptations stick purely to the 20s aesthetic, while it does make it more historically accurate, it also makes the movie feel very nostalgic and old-fashioned which creates a disconnect between how the audience sees their world to how it felt for the characters at the time. I'm glad you didn't just criticise the intentional historical inaccuracy as mistakes, unlike Cinema Sins which seemed to miss the point of the film.
The thing that makes adapting this novel the hardest is that Nick's character, while the narrator of the story, is a bit of a cypher who often disappears into the background. But of course a movie can't pull this off. I thought Tobey Maguire was a good compromise
I once had a conversation with a pal over the casting for the movie, and her complaint was that she thought Maguire was kind of a "meh" choice for the role, saying, "he was just sort of there. He didn't really do anything interesting or memorable with the character". My response to this, and I welcome anyone who disagrees, was "well, Nick's not supposed to be a memorable character [from my interpretation of the books, which seems to be the same as yours]. He needs to be there to be the eyes and ears of the story without distracting from the main players of the book like Jay, Daisy, Tom, etc."
ms. r Year old comment, but I will disagree to the death! Not really, I just think that Nick is also a bastard. There’s some cold irony in the very beginning where Nick recalls his fathers advice to never judge a man followed by him immediately judging Tom based purely on his appearance. There’s a reason the book is so verbose, it’s because Nick is a total hypocrite with nary a redeeming quality. I think caught in the conflagration of boldfaced assholes, it’s easy to uncritically examine Nick’s point of view. However Nick’s narration does not hold up to even a little scrutiny. He may not be an awful son of a bitch, but Nick is still at best an enabler of a narcissistic maniac, and at worse actively works in sabotaging the lives of those around him just because he thinks he’s above them.
@@grantmorgan5180 I agree it's funny because he calls all of them terrible but throughout the story, we see many times how he's nearly as bad if not as bad as they are. Like he calls himself one of the only truly honest people I've ever known (humble much lmao), yet he helps Daisy cheat on Tom, he lies to Jordan about his SO back home in the Midwest, and he never informs the police about the culprit of the hit and run. Honest my ass!
While there are lots of moments where the movie is way more "extra" than the book, I think it helped the story. An obnoxiously over-the-top directing style really helps with the Roaring 20s vibe.
I know it's been a while but this "extra" - it was so well done. We have all seen our fair share of movies but this adaptation is one of the rarer experiences I had that feels overwhelming and WANTS to be overwhelming, its chaos is so carefully orchestrated and yet so masterfully well laid out that when you watch it and do not know what to expect, it keeps rising and rising while you barely have time to catch your breath sometimes.
Great Gatsby was my favorite book that I had to read my junior year of high school, so I was pumped when this movie came out. I still really like this movie, but my favorite touch to this adaptation is that we don't get any sort of close-up or good look at DiCaprio's face until he says "I'm Gatsby." I remember when I saw that scene in the theater, the entire audience cheered.
What perfect timing. Our English class just finished reading and watching The Great Gatsby, this should help my essay
I'm really glad that you've done this Lost In Adaptation. The Great Gatsby is one of my favourite books (For some reason, I like it because the characters are so unlikable, if that makes sense.) and the film is visually stunning. You did a great job, Old Sport.
As one John Green put it in the first season of Crash Course: Literature, a character need not be likeable in order to be interesting. :)
That is kind of the point too. At first glance we see this glittering crowd of rich happy successful people. When we get to know them we find out Tom is a half bright racist who cheats on his wife and beats up his girlfriend. Daisy is an airhead who can't make up her mind whether she loves Tom or Jay. Their friend Jordan Baker the sports woman cheats at golf and blames the caddy, the fabulous Jay Gatsby is a nobody from nowhere, a four flusher, bootlegger and crony of gangster Meyer Wolfsheim putting up a front with his ill gotten gains.
But Gatsby has a dream, and at the heart of his dream is his love of Daisy. He sticks to his dream and his love to the end even though it kills him. There is a kind of nobility in that.
@@mrdanforth3744 dont forget Nick he is just as unlikeable as the rest even as the narrator we can still see through his actions that he is not as good of a person as he likes to paint himself often
@@Dell-ol6hb yeah but I feel like the flim kinda made nick a likeable guy a bit
I actually liked the music in this, A Little Party Never Killed Nobody is a certified BOP!
A story with so much class it required The Dom to upgrade to a much fancier name.
Glad to see that I wasn’t the only one who saw that Nick and Gatsby had romantic chemistry. I mean seriously they had more chemistry then Gatsby and Daisy or Nick and Jordan had combined in the movie, and this is from someone who is blind to romance in general.
This one came up at THE perfect moment. I just finished my To Do List for today. And Dom delivers my favourite kind of entertainment. Thank you.
I personally love the soundtrack-there was actually an entire album of songs done to sound contemporary to the era.
In particular, “Dream violin” and “That Night he told me everything” are gorgeous, hauntingly beautiful pieces of music
I think Baz Luhrmann was honestly the perfect person to work on this; The Great Gatsby is kind of a big book for trying to capture the feeling of the time so the one made in the 70's came across too much like a generic period piece to me and that's just not The Great Gatsby. I could say I'm biased because I like Baz Luhrman but it's more I like both for the same reasons. They're big and bombastic from an emotional standpoint.
Could not agree more! His style fits the feel and setting of the book (it was called the "roaring" 20s after all)
Listening to this as an audiobook in my car, is a 'windows up' experience.
You may be Dominic now, but you'll always be the Dom to me 😈♥️
You're the reason it had to be changed, hope you're happy asshole
...because they made a joke? No need to be a dick about it :/
@@tigamaki1345 yeah :/
@@gracehaven5459 You do know that TH-cam's monetization was the actual reason. You're quick to insult someone for a simple joke.
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I don't care what anyone says. The 2013 rendition of the Great Gatsby was AMAZING
I'm legitimately pouring some wine to toast the new channel name. To the new channel name! 🥂
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I’ve gotta say, you said that u preferred a Gatsby that you could actually sympathize with, but the whole point of Gatsby is that you shouldn’t sympathize with him. He represents an individual that is inherently selfish and borderline sociopathic because he, along with every other character in the book, is searching for the american dream: a dream that is in nature unattainable and distorts reality so much that individuals who are searching for it usually cannot and will not properly empathize with their surroundings. Every character is The Great Gatsby is searching for meaning in their lives through the american dream, which causes them to disregard their surroundings and become glorified greedy asssholes.
I believe the reason the great gatsby is, in a lot of ways, an un adaptable novel is because, though it is cinematic in nature with an abundant use of color as a metaphor for characters and a unique visual style, it’s characters are so nuanced and unlikeable it’s hard to make a good film out of them. If you only have 2 1/2 hours to get to know somebody, in a much less descriptive manner, you will inevitably box them into a hero or villain category, or push them into some sort of archetype.
Since the greatest strength of The Great Gatsby is how it’s characters search for and are destroyed by the american dream, a loss of this nuance, in my opinion, destroys whatever merit they had within the story.
I don’t really blame lehrman for this, because film is not an easy medium to work with, but I felt the need to mention it none the less.
The "whole point of Gatsby" is not that's he unsympathetic. The whole point is that he seems unsympathetic and materialistic at the outset, and then you learn the truth about his life and motivations and not only sympathize with him, but come to outright pity him. You really didn't understand the novel at all.
Leo has been an amazing actor from the start and he stays consistently amazing. Even if you don't like the film, Leo's acting is amazing.
When you were summing up Gatsby's character, I would also add that he is a stalker (you were right to have Fifty Shades vibes). Even if he's not directly shown that way, the way he followed Daisy's life, kept tabs on her, and tried to set up seemingly "accidental" ways they could meet up are all super creepy. Add on his delusions about what she's like and how amazing their life together will be, and you've got a classic possessive stalker. Gatsby's just got the money and charm to get away with it.
Amazing review and analysis as always! One point I'm surprised you didn't include is how every adaptation makes Daisy more sympathetic. It was interesting how Luhrmann's adaptation went the direction of making Gatsby more violent which forces Daisy to "return" to Tom, whereas in the book it's heavily implied she never actually had any intention of leaving Tom and she also drew away from Gatsby when she realised he was "new money" (as the book also addresses the theme of Old Money vs New Money). Love the new name as well!!
I was pretty "meh" on the book but I LOVE the movie. The over-the-top party scenes for me just reflected how over-the-top decadent the rich were back then. Hell, a lot of them still are just that over-the-top decadent.
Gatsby was one of the few novels I actually enjoyed reading during class, I wouldnt say it was a spectacular, engaging read, but I was actually able to understand it and appreciate the story, which was way more than I had been getting out of literature class.
Yes. I definitely felt that. It's the best book they will ever make you read in high school.
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I think it is book that would appeal to teenagers.
Gatsby's dream is to remake the world to bring nearer to his heart's desire.
And that dream, selfish though it may be, is very relatable.
"I'm not suddenly playing up to British stereotypes."
Well no...not suddenly.
I always wanted to get toasted to by a guy with a posh English accent.
That's not a posh English accent.
It is a perfectly normal middle class accent.
I will say the movie plays up how much Tom and Nick knew each other before he went to have dinner with him and Daisy, Im reading the book right now and Nick says that he and Tom weren't really friends in college, but he always thought Tom liked him and wanted Nick to like him, but in the movie Tom greets him like they're best buddies
When the damn youtube notification ACTUALLY WORKS! Time for the first video with the new name ^-^
Glad to hear it's finally doing what it was supposed to be able to do years ago :P
I'm really glad Luhrman stopped Luhrmanning after the first third of the movie. He was a great choice to show off all the splendor, I'm glad he had the vision to let the story breath on it's own later on. I loved this movie!
Notification actually came through this time, I’m glad.
Let’s raise a glass to Dominic Noble. A fantastic name for a fantastic man with a fantastic show.
I remember this. Several English classes, at my school, got a day off and we saw this film when it was in theaters. Also due to the fact we read the book. My friends and I laughed when Leonardo DiCaprio die in the film because like Sean Bean, Leonardo dies a lot in the film season. If not, a good majority of them
Imo Luhrmann's style adds a lot to the artificiality of the whole setting so I really enjoyed this movie. I like your new channel name - I've been here since your very early days and it's been great watching you grow!
Ah, Baz Luhrmann. The guy you either love for his plot accuracy to his source material, or despise for how heavily modernized the sets, wardrobe, and overall style is.
For example: I still love his version of Romeo and Juliet for being a freaking incredibly accurate adaptation of Romeo and Juliet...but I've never really been comfortable with guns replacing swords and everyone wearing Hawaiian shirts!
I think in the end, that's probably going to be part of the beauty ( to some perhaps horror, I am not even sure myself ) of modern movies in a few decades if AI etc. keeps advancing further and further - all the great creative types can modify if not create their own version.
Watching this is like reliving my sophomore english class
I really like The Great Gatsby. I’ve read it several times and honestly there is a good reason it’s taught is schools across America
Berkley Pearl I was surprised he was so negative because I also loved it. The prose is amazing
WiWiPiWiWi I mean in general I agree with his criticisms. I think that there’s a lot of symbolism that he might be missing, but to be fair that stuff can be hard to understand. I mean there is a reason teachers have to go out of their way to explain it to students
As someone who studied this book in college (inb4 everyone commenting that they did too because it's a classic yadayada) and hated it, it's refreshing to see someone not be massively fond of it, even if not actually overall disliking it.
Your comments on Gatsby's idealised view of Daisy, imo, is on point. Imo he didn't love Daisy for Daisy, but rather what she had - wealth. He liked her after, sure, but it was more of a courtly love - he enjoyed the chase, more than the actual relationship.
Not to be a creep, but you are an incredibly handsome man.
I'll allow it ;)
Now that it's the 20's I had to watch this video again!
The best opening of a video ever conceived by mortals! Great, informative and interesting videos as always Dominic!
When I was fifteen, we had a project in school in English class (not my fist language) where we read the great gatsby and then wrote an essay about wether Gatsby and the other characters were the architects of their own unhappiness or not. I mostly remember the long descriptions of parties that seemed to serve no function. I was pleasantly surprised with the 2013 movie.
Hey btw, the use of literally to mean emphasis was a thing during Charles Dickens's time and was common then and mentioned before then. So it's okay that TGG uses it that way lol
The Great Gatsby will be public domain soon so can't wait for all the Nick x Gatsby fanfiction to be published
You may be Dominic Noble now (and good for you), but I will always sub to The Dom. Excellent work as usual.
I think the editing adds go the feeling of extravagance and overindulgence that the characters lead. And the music has a good reason- to stop the 1920s from feeling sepia-toned and old as we would see it now, but young, lively and vibrant like the characters would have seen it. I love the book and I think this movie really did it justice.
I did Tom's monologue as part of my college audition a few days ago.
i like this film's ost. captures the 20s with a modern twist. kinda cool
I beg of of you sir dominic noble next please do the spiderwick chronicles for one I feel like you'd have a nice time with it and the nostalgia is strong with that one
Deleted scenes actually show more of Nick and Jordan's relationship and Gatsby's father coming to his funeral.
I love the book and the movie. It just brought the book to life to me and Leo brings his A game as usual.
THANK YOU! I’ve said all these things in varying degrees about this film. The book was dead dull, and the fact that it is on the required/highly recommended high school reading lists in America means most who try to read it, hate it without understanding it. This movie was not just the best shot of life the story needed, but it was the first project done together by actual best friends Toby and Leo. I honestly hope they do more stuff together, because they have a genuine chemistry together, born of being friends since they were both childhood actors.
I’ve been waiting for this one!!
"Gatsby was literally glowing" wasn't hyperbole, it's how manly men say "he's blushing" without making mister manly man sound afeminine (ie have outwardly spewing feelings other than rage).
Just a theory from a classic lit nerd.
I was cracking up at the end with the wine glass. Congratulation on your update!
I found you through your Fifty Shades videos and watching those will always bring me joy, but this might be my favorite video you’ve ever done. I taught a week long little class on the adaptation so this means a ton to me and I’m so glad someone requested it since I’m currently too broke to. You articulated my love for the movie PERFECTLY. I think it appropriately modernizes the story and translates the excesses into something simultaneously visually compelling but also at times a bit much. Which really describes Gatsby. Thank you Dominic!
Literally has been used in that way since long before your birth. It also still works as its own antonyme. As in: This word has been used since literally before you were born. But also as in: This word has been used for literally a billion years.
Autoantonymes are not uncommon. Inflammable stuff can't be inflammable for example.
I love how in some scenes Nick is just standing on the sidelines listening and watching like he’s not supposed to be there.
(Before viewing the review)
I was made to read the book in Junior English, and I liked it. I wasn’t too fond of how infrequent chapters actually were. My book report project actually was to watch the movie and talk about the changes made. I tried to make it in a LIA style, as much as I could in podcast form, and I got a decent grade for it actually, lol. The movie itself I enjoyed, although I felt it was a bit too bombastic. Still really like Baz Luhrman movies.
(After review)
Yep, my feelings haven’t changed. This review also reminded me how I wished Nick and Jordan had stayed together, probably because I’m a shipper at heart
This movie came out around the time I had to read it in high school so it was kind of trendy at the time. My English teacher was reeeeaaaallly into it. She was a Gatsby stan, if you will.
Oof, this movie has a very special place in my heart. I watched it years ago on accident and kinda fell in love with the overly dramatic love story and the diverse characters anf their motivations for their actions and the dynamic between the characters and the wild, obnoxious, colourful way the story was told in. Which made me wanna read the book. Which I only then found out was a classic (my first language isn't English, so the classics I had to read in school were the ones from my mother tongue). Which then got me into reading more classic literature (English literature as well as classics from my first language cause I always enjoyed reading the books my school made me read and write essays on)
So this movie introduced me to a whole new world of literature I wasn't really interested in before and I'm thankful for that. And also I'm just a sucker for a dramatic love story and questionable characters and this movie is just so aesthetically pleasing so to this day I get around to watching it every few months when I'm just in the mood for it
I remember going through a Great Gasby phase in High School, & somebody pointed out that Gatsby didn’t really like parties, & that added to his mystery because he would hold these parties but never attend them because he was certain that Daisy would come.
I enjoyed the Great Gatsby, but my favorite is Tender is the Night.
Gatsby is a charming character, but Dick Diver (real name,
I swear) is like a cult leader.
Did nobody notice all the gay subtext in this book? Nick is clearly in love with Gatsby, describing in detail his smile, his skin, and his body over and over again. Remember when Nick spoke with a mostly nude McKee in his bed? Nick getting a rather sensual invitation to lunch by old boy Mr. McKee in the elevator in whispered tones, and having the elevator operator shout, "Get your hand off the lever!" because he accidentally put his hands on it when he was whispering to Nick. If that exchange doesn't scream phallic to you, then I don't know what will.
Everyone always forgets the version with Paul Rudd in
That version is my favorite! Sure, it has a small budget (made for TV) but it was very much like seeing the book on screen.
@@Muirmaiden ikr it's great! And has the gayest Nick
I'm so happy I found this channel. I've spent days watching your videos.
I love your new channel name.
Also incoming high school students needing this for a class lol.
Love your efforts on these book vs. film comparisons. Good show! Keep it up!
I really love the great Gatsby. Although i do think i look at the story differently than most people, which got me really annoyed when i only recieved a 5.5/10 for my book report on it in english class a few years ago. I view Gatsby as a tragic but ultimately pure and good character. He did everything for love. He didn't even really seem to enjoy the parties he hold, but he hoped his love would stumble into one of his parties at some time.
He wasn't too pushy with his love. Yes he was waaaay to obsessed with the woman, but he let her be for years, petting her live her life, and letting fate decide if she would cross his path once again (although he did help fate a bit by moving into a house opposite to hers across the water).
Ultimately although his end was tragic, and his love unanswered, i felt myself drawn to his character. The man with pretty much unlimited wealth, who gave everything in the pursuit of happiness in the form of love.
im so happy you went forward with the change! may you flourish and make amazing content for as long as you love it!