Why Every Team NEEDS a Ground Type in Competitive Pokemon
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The Ground type is one of Pokemon's best types, both offensively and defensively. Today we discuss why ever team needs a ground type in Competitive Pokemon.
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Regieleki alone has exacerbated this greatly. 200 base Spd and effectively 150 base in both Atk and SpA with transistor has made ground near compulsory. Feels like they’ve snuck a deoxys into OU otherwise.
It’s closer to base 175 attacks for electric moves if you look at the damage calculator.
That’s almost as strong as a kartana
@@syah7991 but then kartana gets stab as well + beast boost
It's more like 170 in both stats.
@@gregorymirabella1423 236 (Regieleki with 0ev 31iv neutral nature) x 1.5 equals 354. Same as CHARIZARD Y. That is with no EVS also.
328 (Modest Max Iv/Ev Eleki) X 1.5 equals 492. Charizard Y with Modest Max Iv/Ev is 458. Over 30 points lower. MODEST MEGA ALAKAZAM WITH MAX IVS AND EVS IS 493. ONE POINT HIGHER.
Specs rising voltage Regieleki can (with a crit) OHKO BLISSEY FROM FULL.
Pls do a video on the Steel typing next! Steel has been historically the most defining defensive typing for any meta I feel. You absolutely need coverage for Steel since it, and the Pokemon that have it, shut down so much of game. Hell I'd even argue Steel is the biggest reason ground coverage is so good... and then from there you can see why Steel + Flying has always been insanely relevant
I play Monotype, and I love my gen 8 Steel team.
@@FriendofFantasy steel is especially good in monotype because you can blank all your weaknesses with aegislash, heatran, and skarmory.
@@gregorymirabella1423 I use Corviknight but yeah.
@@FriendofFantasy oh, yeah, i meant to say that. my bad.
Landorus T existing in OU made people forget how many crucial roles he is fulfilling by just existing. If he didn't exist the amount of time people have to spend in teambuilder would double or even triple.
Not really, I actually rarely use him when building teams, not saying he is bad (one of thw top 5 mons for the past 2 generations in my opinion) but not really that necessary for the team
more often than not I take chomp, mamo, hippo or excadrill instead of him
Amazing mon but lets not blow his importance out of proportions when talking about team building
As for the roles part that I do agree, lando can run like 10 different, all extremely useful sets
@@nbassasin8092 eh
If there is no lando , most ground in UU will just become OU
@@nbassasin8092 immediate immunity to electric and flying, stealth rocks, etc. is a pretty nice shortcut to teambuilding
@@gattabat I never said Lando is not one of the easiest mons to slap on the team to make it viable and cover multiple elements for a good team. In fact I do believe if there is such thing as best team in OU it has to have lando on it
im just saying you can easily build strong top tier team without him and not spend double the time doing it
One of my fave gen 8 strats is Specs Rising Voltage Regieleki with electric terrain. Pretty much just gotta get rid of the ground type. Which can be annoying if your team is not setup to sabotage their ground walling your easy sweep.
Blissey : "I fear no Special Attacker, but this "thing" ....... it scares me"
If you want to be really gimmicky you can run trick ring target zoroark disguised as regeleki. Click trick on the swap to their ground type and then they lose
@@BlueCardGanks592 Yeah that is in my opinion one of the most effective ways to get ring target onto the ground type. When they see anything else they are expecting it in high ladder
@@BlueCardGanks592 in the match at the beginning of the vid, the regieleki user had a zoroark too.
and the best part is that if you lose regieleki or just struggle to get rid of the ground type, then you've still got tapu koko to fall back on, who has much less trouble against ground types.
You forgot to mention Zygarde, who is currently the only Pokemon that has access to the Ground type move which can hit both Levitate users and Flying types which can also remove their immunity to it: Thousand Arrows.
I remember when I was running Regieleki a lot and I saw someone didn't have an electric immunity all I saw was someone who needed a lesson in team building and my bouncy boi was ready to teach it
Thats how i feel whenever they dont have the lando
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There's something that is often barely mentioned and is massive
Ground type is a physical defensive typing that only is weak to (mostly) special types(water, ice and grass)...meaning that if you only look at the Pokemon's stats when team building you rarely will use your physical defensive mon(ground) as a pivot to special moves
This is something Rock types struggle with
unless you are landorus-t/garchomp/hippo which all regularly take special attacks and can run spdef sets haha. actually in lower tiers rhyperior also runs specially defensive. this is mainly cause they have such high physdef naturally, it can allow them to take neutral and even super effective special attacks
Urshifu, Kartana, and Weavile:
@@jimmyjuice697 Toxapex>>>>
@@rollingapples6579 😂😭
@@jimmyjuice697 there’s always exceptions
Love how this is made like a powerpoint presentation
Lmao imagine using this as a school assignment completely out of context
I love this kind of video, where you go in depth in why something is good competitively. Great vid love to see more of these!
Same. Enjoying this new format.
"Need a ground type" is unironically something I catch myself thinking when I team build for casual runs of whatever game is vibing with that month.
Yeah even ingane teams still pretty much should run a ground type. The AI uses poison types all the time and having a type that can shut down rock, steel and electric is just too useful
I always have ground types in game too. The team just doesn’t feel complete without one
4:42 It was a real shocker for me finding out full para is supposed to be 1/4 times. That would mean that there's a 2.5% chance for someone to paralyze me with thunderbolt and then I get fully paralyzed. Why do the RNG deities hate me so much
I once reversed 6-0'd someone with regigigas in a random battle because of body slam para's
you ignore the 97% of the time where it doesn’t happen.
@@obiwancannoli1920 that's disgusting. But also pretty funny
@@kek13223 yeah, i played terribly and still somehow won
You think that's bad? I'd had it pointed out that my math is wrong in my videos and am having to learn about factorials and other stuff that's apparently college level despite the introduction to it being about 4th grade XD For instance, what are the odds of 7 / 11 being paralysis and all 7 turns being vital? from what i've learned so far(probably still wrong), it's actually about 1 in 3000, not 67 million like the probability of that SPECIFIC result
Steel gave relevance to every type that is strong against it, fire and fighting benefited particularly. Ground being good against steel, fire and electric feels very relevant, same with poison that has few weaknesses and a lot of grass resists turn into neutral interactions. While ground never got a significant buff or nerf, every type interaction and new additions each generation indirectly helped make it one of the best.
Steel being weak to only 3 types is one of the bigger reasons in my mind.
Also, giving earthquake with 100 BP and 100 acc giving them a ton of raw force compared to the rest who generally only have 90/95 base moves with perfect accuracy (without recoil like BB, CC, etc.)
Every team should have a ground type a ghost type and a flying type. That's why everyone uses Lando. Checks all electric and ground stab. Ghost and fairy are probably the other important typings for spinblock and anti dragon. The two real most important typing is a grounded poison type for spikes. And a dark type for prankster
Flying and ground yeah. Ghost, eh, not so much, it's useful, but not at all required.
8:00 We have a roster full of Ground types putting on their best battle faces...and then there's Quagsire just smiling happily and offering everyone a hug.
I love having sheer force nidoking on my OU reams, with extremely powerful special moves, and great coverage moves, Nidoking can reliably deal massive damage to common ground switches like grass or flying.
It's the best when a scarf nidoking can kill massive threats like Lando-T. And can even outspeed and 1hko max speed Pheromosa, back when that demon was in OU
You kind of covered my favorite lesser known cores: electric, ground, flying. I find this is an incredibly difficult type core to handle and it isn't as famous as FWG or FDS.
@Fabian Wirantha there's all kinds of unusual type cores, but people lack imagination and just think FWG or FDS. Another reasonably well known one is Fighting/Psychic/Dark but it's mostly just offensive. The basis of an offensive core and doesn't synergize as well defensively.
The benefit of Electric/Flying/Ground is that most electric and flying types get volt switch or uturn, typically gives you a rocker and a defogger and they're all strong offensive types with good defensive utility and the momentum helps you position yourself well. This is one of the reasons why Koko/Lucha was busted in gen 7 because of the offensive synergy between strong special Electric attacks and STAB Acrobatics with the counters to Koko typically couldn't prevent Lucha from setting up a swords dance
If a Ground/Fairy is introduced Leki and Drago are gonna Self-Destruct.
Ive been praying for ground fairy and fighting ground for tje longest time
Zekrom shudders in the background
yo aim loved the vid, but small critique: i realised that while your first minute had some pretty interesting stuff to say, then afterwards when you said ‘so why does every team quote-unquote “need” a ground type?’ it feels like you said nothing for 1/8 of the vid, even though the story you had to tell was quite interesting.
what a great primer for your incoming mono ice laddering video
The most prominent and recent example
Regieleki was balanced just because the ground type existed, its movepool had absolutely no coverage for ground, heck it practically had almost no moves aside from electric and normal moves which forced it to do some crazy shit like explode to break past its checks and sacrificing itself (there are more factors but this was the main one)
Now here we are in gen 9 regieleki got tera blast, and look where it got it
Its ndex ubers now which is crazy for a mon who spent gen 8 mostly in uu and ou
These videos have been 🔥
Could you talk about why choice items are so pivotal for competitive teams?
great suggestion would love to see a video on that too!
Tldr: better run that electric immunity before koko eleki runs over YOU
Hey Aim, can you make a video about the decline of Talonflame in gen 6?
@@Thund3rDrag0n12 they are asking about the decline in GEN 6 itself where it still has gale wings but is considered pretty meh in current gen 6 ou tours.
@@pokeaimMD Ahhh gotcha gotcha my bad doc
As someone who knows about the decline but hasnt actually played gen 6 OU in a long time, i would certainly be interested in watching a video on it!
You could even say that Ground types keep the metagame... *grounded*.
I'll see myself out.
Paldean Wooper Evo with Water Absorb 😈
Earthquake is like the best move from gen 1 to 8. 100bp, max accuracy and no drawbacks, so stupidly broken.
150bp with stab. I love ground types so this is easily my favourite move. 😅
I remember being a kid and all my friends with a Gameboy wanted Nidoking just for simply being immune to Pikachu's attacks
If you run grass mono, ground type isnt so crazy, just Nidoking/Queen give trouble
And yes I run grass mono in every tier XD
This kind of video is very interesting. I would like to see one for Water type because I hear both Ground and Water being lumped in together as being very good. (This assuming there isn't a Water type video already).
Every team also needs a ground resist, or else Blunder is gonna flip out on you.
ground types are a little too good imo, way too good both offensively and defensively. imo it needs a nerf, maybe turn the electric immunity into a resist
this post was made by electric type gang
fucking love the animation at 5:38
no mention of zygarde? although still an amazing vid as always, doc never disappoints
goat mon with a goat move but i wanted to talk about more general examples, not the ground move that is busted and hits everything haha
Why mention an uber mon, you already know it is good by its uber status
Zygarde literally breaks the rules
Ground type without one of the massive drawbacks of being a ground type
Everything said applies to it and more
@@nbassasin8092 tbf, he mentioned assault vest magearna which is an example of a defining mon in gen 7 that's banned in gen 8. Even though Zygarde ended up getting banned, it was still a part of the meta for the majority of the generation.
@@patrickstar8132 Maybe my memory is wrong, but wasnt Zygarde legal for like a month tops before getting send to Ubers in gen 8, so how was he part of the meta for majority of generation. Unless you are tlaking about gen 7, If i remember he stayed OU longer back then, but still I dont think it was legal long enough to say for the majority of generation
You could make a video ranking the top 5 offensive and defensive types.
I can definitely say the ground types on my team are very useful. When I needed a fast stealthrock user, dugtrio filled the role. In addition, after outfitting my Groudon to be be more competitive he’s probably become the most integral player on my team.
XENON. Haven’t seen that name in years. Brings back memories of when I first got started. Great video as always tho, Pokeaim
If You mean the 3rd gen scene I'm the one editing these kind of videos for Joey. Thank you for watching me in the past, hope all is well.
Glad to see that you’re still doing well!
@@markprangan6802 going good man. Yeah editing for joey has been a blast so far. Also I'm not done with TH-cam, have some plans.
I wonder just how far a Fairy/Ground-type Pokemon could go competitively, even with meh stats. It seems to be one of the best possible STAB combinations, and we all see how Clefable - a Gen 1 Pokemon with no base stat over 100 - is absolutely terrorizing OU alongside Landorus-T because of its pure Fairy typing and great abilities in Magic Guard and Unaware.
SSOU rule 001. You have to have a ground type.
We need a Fire/Ground-type starter next
Pre gen 5 Metagross thought me no steel type is invincible
to Earthquake
Horizontal Game Boy emulator, are you f-ing serious?! Have you f-ing seen the real device?
(I'm not actually mad, I'm just kidding. Great video!)
I stand by Golurk as a weapon made by YHWH. When my NU/RU mon 3 hit a primal kyogre without taking damage. He became my favorite mon. Outspeed every turn, 3 Thunder punches, he sword danced and missed his origin pulse. Godlurk
incredible video like these.
Massive like for all that effort.
zeraora, koko, regieleki, AV mag, rotom, mega mane, bolt beak, thundurus, zapdos, rising voltage, t wave. and joey didn’t even have to mention that it hits FIVE types supereffectively, which if i’m not mistaken, is the most out of any type. it also has ways of removing its immunities outside of coverage options, like gravity, smack down, thousand arrows. ground is not the single best type in a vacuum, but it is definitely the most effective and centralizing in OUs history. thanks joey, would love to see an analysis of fairy types dominance with how popular tera fairy is in the mew meta.
Golem is underrated as fuck. Not only Competetiv but just for a normal playthrough. Atk and Def are really solide and it has access to STAB Earthquake. Also Stoneedge and Stonepolish later. Its not the best but its much more solid than people give it credit.
If Regieleki ever makes it to S/V its gonna be so broken cuz of Tera Ice Type
Who needs ground
When I have talo-
Jk MEGA SCEPTILE
Yeah, this is not competitive Pokémon they need to go back to the old school 6v6 and max IVs and levels for competitive Pokémon world champs at competitive Pokémon is stupid 2v2 level 50 to 55 they have had it this way forever It's not even fun to watch any more Ii miss the 6v6 even the champions 8 are 1v1 you don't see 2v2 because it's not competitive its garbage competitive is just you vs and a person 6v6 they should have a league where to can compete 6v6 earn gym badges n your county qualify for the tournament win the tournament to face the elite four or top 3 get to face elite 4 but no more of this garbage would champion titles for ever.
Not every team needs a Ground type.
Every teams needs a Ground type to be good, misleading title, 0/10
Just a joke, ok?
want to play a hardcore drinking game? next battle video every time pokeaimMD says the word "threat" take a shot... GL surviving this game
Electric immune check, earthquake immune check, ok you are ready to play competitively
One day I will be able to pronounce regieleki without swallowing my tongue.
Day 37 of asking for double weather Klefki in doubles
Then everyone brings a water type to counter Ground types.
And then electric types are put in again...
The cycle repeats. Oh wait, isn't this basically rock-paper-scissors?
Every team needs a ground type!
*alright choice band trapinch you're up*
This is why u use g-max pikachu for g max voltcrash so u can paralyze ground types
31 seconds ago lol
Y’all didn’t know the doctor in Dr. Joey was for educational purposes.
ive been trolling with a pikachu and G max blaistoise combo in VGC doubles and the amount of salt i see when i swap in a pikachu on someones dynamaxed regileki and then helping hands carronade 2KO is amazing
My 4th favourite typing and that many of my favourite mons share
Ground types rule
Once again, quagsire showing up somewhere unexpected with that stupid grin
I feel sorry for whoever missed out on that Kev64 game. Legendary scenes🤣
And thank God for gastrodon and its typing since everyone and their mother is running a rain team hurr durr I have fish and click liquidation/close combat
It still baffles me that we allowed Genesect to run rampant in OU for 3 generations in a row and homeboy just kept getting better and better
Looks like Wolfy should update his tier list cause it sounds like ground is definitely S tier along with Fairy, steel, water
I'd argue water is A tier but i aint a world champ so take that with a grains of salt i suppose
Arceus-Ground is also one of the best mons in the entire Nat Dex Ubers tier despite that tier being filled with utterly broken monsters
Good content but waaaaaay too wordy. Invest in an editor. Remove most adverbs and adjectives please
Ground type pokemon are better than ice type imagine being a worse typing than the type that your countering
Never hurts to put earthquake or earth power on a Pokémon attacker type respectively
In other words, Excadrill is amazing.
can u tell me how to counter Fairy types? fucking sick of them
no krookodile shout out D: too many good grounds! Thanks for the vid! Lots of good insight and info
Why does Pokeaim's voice sound crispy in this video?
Rhydon saying « Pretty boy » whenever it talks to someone is now canon to me.
Ground is better than steel and fairy, change my mind.
As an eleci kind of guy all of my teams are built to remove ground and grass.
Imagine how much better ou would be if lando t was banned to Ubers 🤩
Didnt even watch the video and I already know it's to block volt switch
So Garchomp is a bigger hand to my sandstorm team than I thought
Title should be renamed why every team needs Landorus.
3:23 xenon is goated. His gen 2 battles were always top tier.
what a great primer for your incoming mono ice laddering video
Lightning rod doesn’t protect from discharge
The four main types in most teams are usually steel,water,flying and ground with the other types being extra in terms of defense and no pokemon resisting all of them. The only things you'll need a resistance or coverage for would be ghost and dark.
Ground overcentralizing
Pls ban
Shoulda mentioned the 🐐 Primal Groudon
The thumbnail says it all. Regieleki exists. :p
Great Tusk and Clodsire join the chat
You forgot my favourite:
Krookodile
Its so good
As a bias ground type user, I appreciate the propaganda
I think it also needs to be said that the offensive pressure of ground moves in general is very very high. The only things that resist ground moves at all are Grass, Bug and -Ice- while Flying is outright immune. Grass is an ok typing, but you usually don't see too many Bug or -Ice- types running around since they are both the 2 worst typings in the entire game ( you want bug or -ice- coverage, not typing on your mon). So its very easy to do the midground play and get good damage on the opponents team by throwing out Earthquake/earthpower/HHP/etc. The fact that it hits so many good typings for super effective makes it crazy as well as it is outright hard to switch into if you have no levitate/flying. Imo those are the two real biggest points to earth types strength.
EDIT: As people have pointed out Ice is even more garbage than I thought as it doesn't even resist ground smh.
Ice doesn't resist ground (though I kinda wish it did)
Ice doesn’t resist ground
@@Dragonstorm1234 Damn that makes it worse than I thought. Ice is fucking trash lol
They really need to make Ice resist Ground (and Water). That would do so much for giving Ice a useful defensive niche and keeping some of the best offensive types in the game in check. Of course, we know Game Freak is never gonna do that, but it's nice to dream
Landorus is on like every team bruh💀
This man speaks like he took white powder in his nose all the time or am i the one imagines it
3:44 what does he mean by “$h1t” damage?
chip damage
Chip. Damage.
Hey, you got a bot pretending to be you in the comments.
this thumbnail goes crazy
bring the fusion servers back!
Day 8 of asking for octozooka sableye
Editing was great in this vid