Nails/callouses lol great listening and watching. The climax from the 2nd movement from the second is a delight; as well as the waltz. Never “felt” as much before that change of range as visually here, from 8:00 to the change at 8:36.
when you break the movements down you don’t actually need to move that far most of the time from one chord to the next, however the changes in shape of the hand and fingers have to be extremely precise, well-timed.
I appreciate that. I have good musical instincts, but I have found I’ve barely scratched the surface of interpretation in this work, as I am finding Rachmaninoff goes really deep and extends the usual rules of interpretation for other composers. Also, there are so many notes to learn that much of my effort thus far has just been to get the material in my head and maintain. But I am beginning to get more nuanced with the interpretation thanks to resources on youtube such as Jorge Bolet’s masterclass.
Took me about a year to get to this point with Rach3. I am not doing it full time though, at the most I am lucky to get 1-2 hrs of practice a day. I also play piano professionally as my job, so I’m playing other music (theater) many more hours than that. actually we do go through most of the pieces in the run through, but do not include everything because some things are not learned yet and also we need to rehearse a lot for it to sound good enough.
I definitely want to, my head mount finally broke into pieces, so I will need an head wearable mount for iphone, or cheap head mounted camera. Maybe a go pro could work
I knew there were many notes, but that not many! It just looks so relentlessly hard, there's no break. I guess the hardest part of playing of piece isn't just playing the notes, but not letting the difficulty of the piece affect the sound, and trying to make it sound smooth and seamless
learning the notes is hard enough, then u have to make musical decisions about how to phrase, etc. and plan your climaxes for maximum impact. This is where the real artistry happens.
I am 42 and learning Rach 2 Mov 2 now, i'm stuck at the part you are playing. Having all sorts of problems - Left pinky finger always miss the bass notes, polyrhythm all messed up, tempo all over the place, pedaling is a complete disaster. I had been practising R2M2 piano solo arrangement from a youtuber called "LotusFlower" for over a year now and only get so far. I am using YAMAHA digital piano P-125 and everytime I hit the record button, mistakes pop up everywhere. 😅😅😅. Trying to be patience and start slow, but I found out that playing slow is even harder because every mistake stands out prominently. I'm a self taught piano hobbyist so I don't know what piano exercises will help me to correct all these things. So I listen to famous pianist playing this movements on youtube and try to play along. Your playing is very nice and I hope to improve my playing to get close to your level, with or without a tutor. Cheers.
I wasn’t playing Rach 2 in the video (my friend Tom was) but I always try to learn everything at a slow tempo. It is harder to do, but pays enormous dividends if you have the patience to learn to play it well slowly. Yes, it may seem unnatural and you will notice every mistake, but you can also control and change your movements using a better technique by much slow repetition. I realize this is not as fun as playing through up to tempo, but it’s worth the effort.
Very cool pov. Question, how big are your hands because in a lot of these sections it seems to me that I won’t be able to reach certain chords because of my hand size
hard to choose, I like them both but am learning Rach 3 at the moment and hardly have time to practice the second, although I want to learn Rach 2 as well
you have to learn to play it very well before playing with an orchestra, and these rehearsals with 2nd piano are a great way to get ready for that. I don’t worry too much about opportunities yet, because hopefully when I’m ready, local orchestras will want to include me on their roster. I learn piano concertos because they add an extra dimension to the music, that you have to hear and be aware of even when playing the part solo. I find it to be a highly challenging & rewarding experience!
would you like to donate $150 for a tuning? We musicians can’t afford to hire a piano tuner every video. Playing Rachmaninoff causes the strings to go slightly out and we’ve already tuned the piano twice in the last 8 months.
it’s flat on purpose, 432hz. It can hold pitch just fine, pinblock in great shape. the scratches are because that was the piano I learned to play on for 20 years and and clearly I was not as able to control the movements. now It’s pretty rare that my fingers hit the fallboard.
@@Weimartoccata Ah I see, a lot of pianos were tuned to 435 or 432 in the earlier part of the 20th century and 18th centuries. Having long fingers can definitely make a piano suffer, I can't play a lot of chords easily because I drag my nails across the front xD I'll have to work on that some.
This kind of pov shots are so realistic, the head movement really give off the emotion the pianist puts into playing.
I feel like the Rach 3 Mov 2 climax doesn't get enough love, thank you for including it!
Magnificent performance and ingenious gizmo for filming (although dramamine might be in order😂) we want more!!! Bravo!
Wow I can’t believe what some of those complicated passages actually look like. Great perspective!
Great video! I really enjoyed the camera angle and your selections from the two concertos. Keep it up 👍
Nails/callouses lol great listening and watching. The climax from the 2nd movement from the second is a delight; as well as the waltz. Never “felt” as much before that change of range as visually here, from 8:00 to the change at 8:36.
Really lovely and beautiful 🤩
Amazing playing I can't believe it!
beautiful
thank you!
amazing !
Your playing is so effortless! It looks as if your fingers are barely moving at all, and yet the sound is so full and beautiful
when you break the movements down you don’t actually need to move that far most of the time from one chord to the next, however the changes in shape of the hand and fingers have to be extremely precise, well-timed.
Incredible! We need more 😭😭
not to worry! planning on making more real soon
This looks insane to learn and play
looks scary to play, but it shows almost anything can be done with years of proper training!
You are really good dude, I like your interpretation also
I appreciate that. I have good musical instincts, but I have found I’ve barely scratched the surface of interpretation in this work, as I am finding Rachmaninoff goes really deep and extends the usual rules of interpretation for other composers. Also, there are so many notes to learn that much of my effort thus far has just been to get the material in my head and maintain. But I am beginning to get more nuanced with the interpretation thanks to resources on youtube such as Jorge Bolet’s masterclass.
I like this. Id love you exactly where his eyes are looking.
How much time did it take to read the first movement of Rach 3??
Also you should do full piece runthroughs if possible.
Took me about a year to get to this point with Rach3. I am not doing it full time though, at the most I am lucky to get 1-2 hrs of practice a day. I also play piano professionally as my job, so I’m playing other music (theater) many more hours than that. actually we do go through most of the pieces in the run through, but do not include everything because some things are not learned yet and also we need to rehearse a lot for it to sound good enough.
Will we see more pov music like this?
I definitely want to, my head mount finally broke into pieces, so I will need an head wearable mount for iphone, or cheap head mounted camera. Maybe a go pro could work
Lisitsa did this to gteat effect with Beethoven Tempest 2nd mvt, with the camera rolling like it's on the high seas.
I knew there were many notes, but that not many! It just looks so relentlessly hard, there's no break.
I guess the hardest part of playing of piece isn't just playing the notes, but not letting the difficulty of the piece affect the sound, and trying to make it sound smooth and seamless
learning the notes is hard enough, then u have to make musical decisions about how to phrase, etc. and plan your climaxes for maximum impact. This is where the real artistry happens.
With free added sea-sickness!
hey, imagine how we feel after an hour of playing that! pretty disoriented 😵💫
You should try this with a gopro, amazing work!
I’m looking into it. Not sure we would like the distortion from a fisheye lens. Trying to find a lighter weight camera tho for sure
@@Weimartoccata yeah there has to be one without a fisheye i bet
Amazing, film more
I am 42 and learning Rach 2 Mov 2 now, i'm stuck at the part you are playing. Having all sorts of problems - Left pinky finger always miss the bass notes, polyrhythm all messed up, tempo all over the place, pedaling is a complete disaster. I had been practising R2M2 piano solo arrangement from a youtuber called "LotusFlower" for over a year now and only get so far.
I am using YAMAHA digital piano P-125 and everytime I hit the record button, mistakes pop up everywhere. 😅😅😅. Trying to be patience and start slow, but I found out that playing slow is even harder because every mistake stands out prominently. I'm a self taught piano hobbyist so I don't know what piano exercises will help me to correct all these things. So I listen to famous pianist playing this movements on youtube and try to play along.
Your playing is very nice and I hope to improve my playing to get close to your level, with or without a tutor.
Cheers.
I wasn’t playing Rach 2 in the video (my friend Tom was) but I always try to learn everything at a slow tempo. It is harder to do, but pays enormous dividends if you have the patience to learn to play it well slowly. Yes, it may seem unnatural and you will notice every mistake, but you can also control and change your movements using a better technique by much slow repetition. I realize this is not as fun as playing through up to tempo, but it’s worth the effort.
God I wish i could play this
I had to undergo much physical and emotional pain to learn this.
Very cool pov. Question, how big are your hands because in a lot of these sections it seems to me that I won’t be able to reach certain chords because of my hand size
Tom has average sized hand, I have larger hands. Rach3 especially seems to have a lot of big reaches
As someone currently learning the Rach 3 - I share your pain. Best of luck. I hate that bit at the end of the 2nd movement... it's fiddly as hell.
do you mean the part that introduces the third movement?…yup I agree I don’t like it, and it’s difficult to get right
Now I'm curious, which do you like more? Rach 2 or 3
hard to choose, I like them both but am learning Rach 3 at the moment and hardly have time to practice the second, although I want to learn Rach 2 as well
Why do you learn piano concertos? Do you have any oportunities to play them with an orchestra?
you have to learn to play it very well before playing with an orchestra, and these rehearsals with 2nd piano are a great way to get ready for that. I don’t worry too much about opportunities yet, because hopefully when I’m ready, local orchestras will want to include me on their roster. I learn piano concertos because they add an extra dimension to the music, that you have to hear and be aware of even when playing the part solo. I find it to be a highly challenging & rewarding experience!
Hi BorntoRach
hey there! I hope you’re doing well. Third movement is undergoing very intensive practice 🥵
@@Weimartoccata that's my favourite of the movements. Hope it goes well!
Whait are all your videos pov
The ill sub right now
we plan on making more in this format + multiple camera angles. Thanks for the sub 🙏
@@Weimartoccata looking forward to seeing it
You need to attach a gyro on top
what would that do? please explain as I know nothing about cameras 😐
Pianos require tuning and voicing. Please! Care of the instrument is symmetrical with technique.
would you like to donate $150 for a tuning? We musicians can’t afford to hire a piano tuner every video. Playing Rachmaninoff causes the strings to go slightly out and we’ve already tuned the piano twice in the last 8 months.
What happened to that poor piano? It's flat and the fallboard is so scratched up, a shame because the finish is beautiful!
it’s flat on purpose, 432hz. It can hold pitch just fine, pinblock in great shape. the scratches are because that was the piano I learned to play on for 20 years and and clearly I was not as able to control the movements. now It’s pretty rare that my fingers hit the fallboard.
@@Weimartoccata Ah I see, a lot of pianos were tuned to 435 or 432 in the earlier part of the 20th century and 18th centuries.
Having long fingers can definitely make a piano suffer, I can't play a lot of chords easily because I drag my nails across the front xD
I'll have to work on that some.
Ending the video in the middle of that phrase, it's blasphemy!
thanks for watching till the end, most don’t! I suppose I could have included more, but I wanted to fade out on a d minor.