Flaked Adjunct Comparison - Unmalted Grains To Lighten Body

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  • Want to know the difference between flaked maize and flaked rice? This video compares the two flaked adjuncts to an all-malt beer.
    This week, Mike presents three different brews to compare the effect of body lightening adjuncts, Corn and Rice.
    Mike brewed a control beer with 100% base malt or normal 2-row. He also made two more beers where he substituted in 10% of Flaked Corn or Flaked rice.
    The corn and rice beers were noticeably lighter in color than the 100% base malt beer. The corn beer had a subtle grainy aroma in comparison to the more prominent mild dough like quality of the control. The rice beer had almost no perceptible aroma coming off of it.
    The rice beer had more of a hoppy zing to it reminiscent of American Craft Lager. We postulate that the rice is so bland it lets even the most subtle of spicy hop character shine. The corn beer's flavor was not corn sweet but it was a softer more rounded malt flavor.
    Let us know your experiences with Flaked Corn or Rice in the comments!
    Cheers!
    #AdjunctBrewing #FlakedRice #FlakedMaize
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  • @BarleyHopsYeast
    @BarleyHopsYeast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I didn't expect the corn/rice beers to look noticeably lighter than the base beer. Great video as always! Glad to see No-Chill is getting some love!

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me neither. The camera makes it more intense that it really is. But ever we could see a difference by eye. Cheers! -Mike

  • @mb5o
    @mb5o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A comparison with barley flakes would be interesting. Thanks for sharing the experiment.

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We did. Check it out here! th-cam.com/video/165E2yBG7Dk/w-d-xo.html

  • @cain1s
    @cain1s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LOVE this one! So interesting. Thank you! I've wondered about different levels of adjuncts.
    I hope you consider the 20% adjunct experiment.

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe. Certainly would try a 20% flaked rice american pilsner. - John

  • @glutenfreebrewing
    @glutenfreebrewing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yup i can't believe the head retention on these beers just base malt. Quality brewing eh 😀.

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. Pretty good. - John

  • @brandonhatch8805
    @brandonhatch8805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the content guys. You try to
    Describe flavors really well. Let’s me pick ingredients even if I haven’t used them. You guys are and have been (for years ) and bb awesome resource thank you!

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Brandon! - John

  • @markbrown2615
    @markbrown2615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your efforts I really appreciate the experimental comparisons with any of the variables (water, grains, hops, yeast). Brew on!

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the support. More experiments to come. Cheers! -Mike

  • @sandyspurrell3217
    @sandyspurrell3217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Woohoo! Been a long wait for this one. Thanks guys!!!

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We we finally got here. Enjoy! Cheers! -Mike

  • @billytaylor3584
    @billytaylor3584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great video! I know these comparisons are a lot more work for you guys, but they are really, really helpful. Cheers and Brew On!

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Billy - appreciate the kind words. It does take time but we do it for the dash. - John

  • @albrough
    @albrough 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I needed this a month ago. Great video as always!

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Al! - John

  • @MRW3455
    @MRW3455 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did try to brew an American light lager using flaked maize, but I think I overdid it as the corn flavour was too much but honestly I don't think UK taste buds are used to that type of flavour. However inspired to retry it using flaked rice for those long summer BBQ days. Cheers and keep up the great work.

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers, Mark! - John

  • @dioad1739
    @dioad1739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have added corn and rice to my lagers the last one was very exceptional I drank the last bottle of that batch yesterday it was good to the last drop thanks guys awesome.

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! - John

  • @tysenbibb6118
    @tysenbibb6118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just tried flaked rice alongside flaked oats in a Milkshake IPA and the haze stability was great! It aslo has this great soft puffy mouth feel that I've never noticed with only flaked oats. I did use a 50/50 yeast blend of Omega British V (London Ale III) and Omega Sundew. Fun beer. I'll definitely keep trying flaked rice in my NEIPA/Hazy IPA's.

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice. Using flaked rice in a hazy IPA.... Interesting. - John

  • @brianbarker2670
    @brianbarker2670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cream ale is my go to brew. I've made it with flakes maize and flakes rice at the same time. Last time I substituted flaked oats for the rice and it improved the mouth feel and overall taste.

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome, Brian. Thanks for sharing! - John

  • @Pablo-tb5is
    @Pablo-tb5is 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video. I started following both of you after I stumbled across one of your older Cream Ale videos. I love that style. I really wish the sugar version would have turned out. After many iterations, I've landed on 18% Flaked Corn and 7% sugar. Cheers!

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Thank you! - John

  • @scottbenson4818
    @scottbenson4818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those beers are unusually clear for the type experiment you did. I’m a big fan of no chill and do the same in these colder months. Pure laziness of not futzing with the chiller of course. Interesting about the lacing. All 3 had great retention almost like some wheat malt in there. Appreciate you guys pushing the option of lagers to everyone. I was also intimidated by them until I actually tried one and found it wasn’t really that hard if you used the elements in your favor. Unless you have fancy temp control of course, ha. Anyway, thanks for sharing. Cheers from Uxbridge.

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers, Scott! - John

  • @beeroquoisnation
    @beeroquoisnation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video. I believe that the lack of complexity is how I arrived at homebrewing. Never mind that once a year I need a new belt and new pants because the carbs have altered my dimensions. I am a beer snob. Those expenses come with the territory. Looking forward to the style drawing series. Cheers Dudes.

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Hope you have liked the Jar of Destiny videos! - John

    • @beeroquoisnation
      @beeroquoisnation 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BrewDudes I like most everything you cats do.

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@beeroquoisnation Thanks!

  • @Les1Tom
    @Les1Tom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tremendous video yet again guys, you've inspired me to brew a cream ale which turned out very nice with 10% of flaked maize in the grain bill. I thought I would try another cream ale which I'm calling a corn ale as it's got 23% of flaked maize in it's grain bill - it looks very light as it's almost finished fermenting and I'll report back when I get to tasting it.

  • @leser1music
    @leser1music 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's crazy that such a relatively small amount makes such a big difference, did not expect that. I brew a lot with regular rice doing a cereal mash, i'm going to have to look into corn after watching this.

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check it out! A little goes a long way, apparently. - John

  • @krisbrann3501
    @krisbrann3501 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love that you compared the rice one to Bud Light. Bud Light uses rice whereas Miller/coors uses corn (corn sugar not flaked corn).

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, I think we knew that too. It definitely reminded us of that beer. - John

  • @grahamhawes7089
    @grahamhawes7089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting observations! I am surprised the differences were so pronounced at 10%. I’ve yet to brew with rice or corn despite many threats to brew a Mexican or Japanese style lager.

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, it was pretty amazing. Thanks Graham! - John

  • @grumpycyclist3319
    @grumpycyclist3319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a note if you have an Indian store anywhere close you can buy "poha" which is a version of flaked rice that is much cheaper than what you would buy at your LHBS.

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My LHBS sells flaked corn/rice for under $2 a pound. How much cheaper is it at an indian shop? Cheers! -Mike

  • @roberthager7140
    @roberthager7140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Appreciate this

  • @markbarber7839
    @markbarber7839 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video, lager yeast may help with the experiment

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Mark - yes, it would make a difference, I think. - John

  • @mustyditch4703
    @mustyditch4703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maize .... ohhhh fancy. Hahaha!!!

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quite fancy. - John

  • @pgsj
    @pgsj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video guys.
    I brewed last month a Japanese Rice Lager 60% pilsen/40% flaked rice/sorachi Ace 30min/15min/0min. It is lagering in keg at 0°C for 2 weeks now. And I do have this zero aroma in the beer and was wondering why. If you got this with 10%, gotta be the rice, right? Cheers!!

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta be - super clean on the nose, I think. - John

    • @pgsj
      @pgsj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BrewDudes It was. Keg finished before beer get full cristal clean. Certainly brewing it again in near future

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pgsj Excellent!

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pgsj Nice!

  • @tooidiotsbrewingcompany8137
    @tooidiotsbrewingcompany8137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am surprised at the difference 10% flaked rice or corn made. I have brewed many cream ales but never used flaked rice. I am going to have to give rice a try.

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Give it a try. A little goes a long way. - John

  • @TheKlokan44
    @TheKlokan44 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey guys, I am not sure if you have adjusted the camera angle but I think Han Solo and Luke need to akwardly wedge that silver thing - a-ma- jing piece in before the Death Star's trash compactor crushes you.

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha - all right. I had to watch this video again. Do you think we're a little tilted? Hope the monster thing in the water doesn't pull us under. - John

  • @nh1662
    @nh1662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just brewed a Cold Ipa with 30% rice....Did you use any fining agents on these or just cold crash and time in the keg?

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Half a whirlflocc during the chill period. I think when you no chill with all that material in there, and its so cold in the garage right now. It tends to give really clear beer pretty quickly. Cheers! -Mike

  • @Jonobos
    @Jonobos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    New test: different types of corn in cream ale. Masa vs flaked vs grits vs fresh corn

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting. I can add it to the list. - John

  • @jacktyrrell2050
    @jacktyrrell2050 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi dudes have you ever tried to brew a smash beer using ale malt and orange peel
    Also have you ever used the Williams warn bottle filler it's a very expensive piece of kit costing around 500€ I find it great just wondering what your option would be cheers guys
    Ps I've just purchased the new g40 grainfather awaiting delivery can't hardly wait for to try it what do you think

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Jack - no, I haven't brewed a SMaSH beer with ale malt and orange peel but that sounds great. We have a bottle filler and we have mixed feelings about it. The Grainfather should be great! Cheers - John

  • @andrewadam9544
    @andrewadam9544 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    weve had flaked corn, flaked rice.......anyone ever tried flaked peas ?

    • @BrewDudes
      @BrewDudes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No flaked peas at this time...