Ford Mondeo Mk5 Driveshaft Woes. (120k miles on the clock) The fourth mk5 ford mondeo in the taxi fleet to suffer from an inner driveshaft joint failure.
Your videos are amazing and detailed. We need great mechanics like you in London. Most if not all are dumb or play dumb around here to skin you alive. Nobody wants to even open a drive shaft, they want you to buy a complete one, and charge you £100 to fit it on. Minimum. Where are you located?, I might move near you just to have a decent honest mechanic . Keep up the good work. Honest knowledgeable mechanics are a rarity in London.
Great videos. Love the way you present. That joint looks like it came from the factory without grease. Seems to me (based on my personal observations and your experiences) that Ford are built cheap but repairing them is very expensive.
I think it had grease in the but at some point moisture got in and the bearing didnt have a massive amount of it. It's a trick to get more part failures to get you to get more money from your wallet in terms of parts and labour costs.
I've just had mine replaced on a mk4. It's been clunking in first gear for about 2 years. During this time the garage had replaced the outer part only and wheel baring, where they felt some slack. It was fine for some time, then sound came back. After I've had other work done on the suspension, the sound was gone again for a while . Every time work had been done on the right side, the sound would go away and come back. Refitting everything was probably taking up some slack until it would start acting up again. Now I've changed the entire drive shaft and finally, after 2 years it's solved.
I think I am going to be sick. 2 months ago I purchased a very lightly used (as in 18,000 miles) 2013 Fusion/Mk5 Mondeo. Perhaps the 1 thing that I am noticing that I am not crazy about is the way it feels LOOSE when you let off the accelerator and then get back on it. My first thought was " spongy " engine and/or transmission mounts. There is no clunk...yet, so I hope this is not the same problem that I am having. Thank heavens I purchased an extended warranty that covers the car until 2026 or the 100,000 mile, whichever is first. EXCELLENT video, btw.
I work for a leading automotive parts distribution centre, it’s pretty common for Dealers or garages to take part of a kit and return the rest as not used. We have to check it before we resale. It’s annoying. They even try to return a fitted part as new and get their money back. One garages fraud is another’s inconvenience if we miss it.
Hi Alan. Really love your videos, as do the whole of the mk5 community. I have a 150TDCI and getting a really bad vibration when i accelerate, in your opinion and experience, it's there a particular place/ side i should be looking on my drive shafts?
Hi Alan ! When installing back the complete drive shaft, do you know what's the amount of torque force that needs to be applied when mounting back the 32mm hub nut ? Thanks for all your great videos ! I really like your style :) ... so keep up being you ... you're great !
I would get my drive shaft from JR Driveshafts in Birmingham 2 yrs unlimited mileage warrant, I have used them many times on various jobs and never let me down great quality and service and Half the price of main dealers
@Alan Howatt your videos have been such a help to me despite it being a Mondeo, I have a 16 plate S-Max Mk2 (most parts are the same chassis wise though), and I have just had this same exact issue. Ford say replacement every 180k on my car and mine has just done 187k so got my moneys worth. I just bought 2 complete new drive shafts from Ford and its cost me £1149. So you got the lucky part of the deal lol Do you find the rear suspension bushes are atrocious? I have squeaking from my car but not sure what's the one wearing!
Hi Alan :) Today I've noticed a little bit oily driveshaft - the longer one. It's not much oil, no drops, just a little bit wet near gearbox. My car is Focus mk3.5 2 litre diesel 150hp and as I suppose MMT6 gearbox. I think the problem is driveshaft sealant, but I don't know that replace it now or wait - it's not a leak, just maybe 4cm wet driveshaft (counting from gearbox). Anyway. Is it difficult to replace that sealant? As I understood, I must drain the oil from gearbox, remove tyre, remove main driveshaft screw to, remove swingarm pin and unhook it, unscrew the support bearing cover, and what else? After what I saw at this video, driveshaft should go easily out of gearbox? Do You used some lever or something else to get the driveshaft out of gearbox? Thanks :)
Huge thanks for your videos! Really helpful stuff! Any chance there was a part number on the bearings? would be interested in trying to source just the bearings and dont really want to wait till i have the shaft out of the car to find out, the unavailability of after marked drive shaft components puts a real strain on the budget working on this bloody car!
If it's any help my smax mk2 uses pretty much the same parts as that mondeo and the numbers on my bearing are: 111115 & 1014370 and it says CW on the outer race? I looked online and couldnt find it tbf, not sure if there is an open bearing you can replace it with that's not needle
Brilliant videos Alan, theyre bloody hilarious! Question is, whats your personal car? Do you like the familiarity of a Mondeo of your own or are you sick of the sight of them?
You are one lucky git. Working on stuff that isn't rusted solid. Look how easy it all came apart! Ford does seem to have issues with drive shafts. I saw one worse than that on a Focus ST.
Hi Alan, do you know what type of grease goes into the inner/tripod/spider cv joint (name, type, NLGI grade etc) and where best to buy it? Would it also mix with the existing grease in my 2008 Galaxy 2.0tdci 140ps? The situation is that the inner boot slid off while doing something else and my intention is to simply it more grease without taking the shaft/joint off.
Hi Alan We have just got a Mk5 Titanium X 180 and I had a vibration on acceleration. It's just gone back to the garage and they are saying drive shafts. And as you said the Mk4 was fine. We have just sold a mk4 and that was as good as gold.
i don't actually remember having driveshaft issues on the mk4....on the mk5 its nearly always the inner joint bearings that fail and cause vibration when accelerating hard..we change lots of them and they are not cheap
Hi Alan I have a 65 Ford MONDEO 1.6 Titanium can you tell me the Auxbeam led bulbs is everything you need in the box do you think they are worth buying thanks keep up the great work brilliant Chanel Tony 👍🏼
hi, the h7 connection on the led bulbs plug straight onto your headlamp wiring but the plug connector must be fitted the right way round..all is in the box you need, mine are still working well, they are much brighter but i doubt if they will last as long as they say but its a gamble... you could go for the brighter halogen h7 bulbs and weigh up the price difference
Another excellent how too video 👍 if you think it's necessary ( do you ever change gearbox oil ? 🤔) if so ,,,, any chance you can do a How too change a mk4 mondeo gearbox oil video ????
My 2015 2.0L Mondeo estate has developed a fault whereby I can also hear a “clunk” and when I grab the outer driveshaft near the cv joint, if moves up and down. Apparently, the outer cv joint is £350 and a complete driveshaft with the inner and outer cv joints will cost £390. I need to investigate further before I spend my money
Hi fella had the same with my mk3 st220 inner cv falled and destroyed the carrier bearing fords wanted over 600 quid for a complete shaft and a 3 week wait
My inner joint is gone to on my mk4 it half popped out and boot what’s off on same end I found one off the spider bearings the needle bearings had fallen out well most of them how do I get the bit out off gearbox to rebuild drive shaft thanks
Hi, I have a 2015 mk5 mondeo and when I pass 100kmh the vehicle starts to vibrate a lot. I have already detected that the bearings and bearing housing are loose. Could you help me find the bearings and bearing housing reference? Thanks
i have to buy the inner driveshaft assembly from ford which is really expensive...when all i really need is the bearings, but i can't find them sold separately
@@alan4x I can't get the ball joint to come off. It is free and loose but the arm does not seem to go low enough to remove. I am using a massive lever. Any thoughts mate? Cheers Ricky
Thank you for the video and your answer mate, after a week search I couldn't find bearings but I went to junkyard and found a whole driveshaft from a smax 2017 which had mmt6450 transmission and guess ;) same size same tooth bought for 20 dollars and installed to my car, driving like 2 weeks no issue.. Going to do wheel alignment today and I hope I fixed my problem do you think it will be a problem to do a smax shaft on my mondeo? Have a great day!
Were the parts really stolen from the parcel? If so, the suggested course of action is to refuse accepting it when it arrives. It will be then sent back, leaving the burden of figuring out who takes the responsibility between the parcel company and the sender.
i did not take delivery of the package, yes the parts were really missing, we have an account with ford, they just take it back and issue a credit note, no questions asked
Not a good idea to spray wd40 near joints... As we all know oil (petrol) doesn't make a pair with rubber... it corrodes it. I wonder about the grease is it silicone based?
Sir u are my last hope, I have wobbly wheel at 90+km/h, I changed almost everything on the front side, wheels, bearings, suspension side, nothing saved my car. Could driveshafts cause this wobbling problem if they don't feel bad as in your video?
Alan Howatt thanks only had it 5 months but it’s preowned and it’s doing my head in. Only does it when stationary or under 30mph but is noisy as hell and I can feel it through the steering wheel
@@alan4x that bearing shouldnt be failing at low mileage, to do my shaft cost me £60 with a new boot so ill chance the cv grease. Jaysus my old vw passat drive shafts and boots are still original at 300k and i drive hard, no yellow grease in those shafts.
@@robnulty9462 yeah, i sure that cv joint grease will be just as good, i don't know why they use different grease in the inner joint but it still not saving the bearings from wearing out
i always miss the mileage ahhh.... the warranty is usually 60k miles i year i think.....or you can get 100k miles 3 year warranty. this car had done 120k miles so out of warranty
Thanks for reply.Scared me because thinking to upgrade from my mk4.Normal driving at 10.000 miles is 10 years.But good info.Because most cars for sale are 50.000 plus for sale.You can see why the bearings had been stolen/Looked like you could just replace them,instead of a complete shaft.
Dude... i only replaced the boot on the axle and my bearings were in perfect shape after 270k km... Apparently my focus 2.0 tdci from 2009(Non DPF) is better made... Fucking hell ford what are you doing?????? Not to mention that i've never had engine problems apart from the intercooler hose which i fixed for 2$.
My mk4 petrol is as tight as a drum to drive, no squeaks or rattles best car I've ever driven. Great video.
Thank you,Alan.I enjoy your teaching.
Nice one Alan 😊 Great video again 👍🏻 You’d make a great teacher as the students I’d love your humour🤣🤣 Keep them coming cheers Stevie
Yet again a great video 👍👍👍👍👍
I love your videos.
Great jobs.
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thank you
Look forward to the next one 👌
Most interesting , thanks , and you can't beat a good bang ! :)
"it can get a liittle bit tight" hahaha that's what I call an understatement. Love your vidjeos man.
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thanks for this Tutorial
Your videos are amazing and detailed. We need great mechanics like you in London. Most if not all are dumb or play dumb around here to skin you alive. Nobody wants to even open a drive shaft, they want you to buy a complete one, and charge you £100 to fit it on. Minimum. Where are you located?, I might move near you just to have a decent honest mechanic . Keep up the good work. Honest knowledgeable mechanics are a rarity in London.
Interesting update, see yah..!
Great videos. Love the way you present. That joint looks like it came from the factory without grease. Seems to me (based on my personal observations and your experiences) that Ford are built cheap but repairing them is very expensive.
I think it had grease in the but at some point moisture got in and the bearing didnt have a massive amount of it.
It's a trick to get more part failures to get you to get more money from your wallet in terms of parts and labour costs.
Love your videos, maybe u can make a video about different powershift gear problems with this car?
First to watch and i know for sure it’s going to be another great video
I've just had mine replaced on a mk4. It's been clunking in first gear for about 2 years. During this time the garage had replaced the outer part only and wheel baring, where they felt some slack. It was fine for some time, then sound came back. After I've had other work done on the suspension, the sound was gone again for a while . Every time work had been done on the right side, the sound would go away and come back. Refitting everything was probably taking up some slack until it would start acting up again. Now I've changed the entire drive shaft and finally, after 2 years it's solved.
I think I am going to be sick. 2 months ago I purchased a very lightly used (as in 18,000 miles) 2013 Fusion/Mk5 Mondeo. Perhaps the 1 thing that I am noticing that I am not crazy about is the way it feels LOOSE when you let off the accelerator and then get back on it. My first thought was " spongy " engine and/or transmission mounts. There is no clunk...yet, so I hope this is not the same problem that I am having. Thank heavens I purchased an extended warranty that covers the car until 2026 or the 100,000 mile, whichever is first.
EXCELLENT video, btw.
thanks for your story howard,
I work for a leading automotive parts distribution centre, it’s pretty common for Dealers or garages to take part of a kit and return the rest as not used. We have to check it before we resale. It’s annoying. They even try to return a fitted part as new and get their money back. One garages fraud is another’s inconvenience if we miss it.
Makes me sad and glad that I gave my Mk5 up.
Hi Alan.
Really love your videos, as do the whole of the mk5 community.
I have a 150TDCI and getting a really bad vibration when i accelerate, in your opinion and experience, it's there a particular place/ side i should be looking on my drive shafts?
I’ll stick with my MK 4 I think, don’t think I’ll be upgrading anytime soon 😬
Hi Alan ! When installing back the complete drive shaft, do you know what's the amount of torque force that needs to be applied when mounting back the 32mm hub nut ?
Thanks for all your great videos ! I really like your style :) ... so keep up being you ... you're great !
I would get my drive shaft from JR Driveshafts in Birmingham 2 yrs unlimited mileage warrant, I have used them many times on various jobs and never let me down great quality and service and Half the price of main dealers
@Alan Howatt
your videos have been such a help to me despite it being a Mondeo, I have a 16 plate S-Max Mk2 (most parts are the same chassis wise though), and I have just had this same exact issue. Ford say replacement every 180k on my car and mine has just done 187k so got my moneys worth.
I just bought 2 complete new drive shafts from Ford and its cost me £1149. So you got the lucky part of the deal lol
Do you find the rear suspension bushes are atrocious? I have squeaking from my car but not sure what's the one wearing!
Alan The best. !!! Gruß aus Deutschland
thank you alan.i have a mark 4 mondeo.i had a question is wheel alignment needed after doing this job?
Hi Alan :) Today I've noticed a little bit oily driveshaft - the longer one. It's not much oil, no drops, just a little bit wet near gearbox. My car is Focus mk3.5 2 litre diesel 150hp and as I suppose MMT6 gearbox. I think the problem is driveshaft sealant, but I don't know that replace it now or wait - it's not a leak, just maybe 4cm wet driveshaft (counting from gearbox). Anyway. Is it difficult to replace that sealant? As I understood, I must drain the oil from gearbox, remove tyre, remove main driveshaft screw to, remove swingarm pin and unhook it, unscrew the support bearing cover, and what else? After what I saw at this video, driveshaft should go easily out of gearbox? Do You used some lever or something else to get the driveshaft out of gearbox? Thanks :)
Huge thanks for your videos! Really helpful stuff!
Any chance there was a part number on the bearings? would be interested in trying to source just the bearings and dont really want to wait till i have the shaft out of the car to find out, the unavailability of after marked drive shaft components puts a real strain on the budget working on this bloody car!
If it's any help my smax mk2 uses pretty much the same parts as that mondeo and the numbers on my bearing are:
111115 & 1014370 and it says CW on the outer race?
I looked online and couldnt find it tbf, not sure if there is an open bearing you can replace it with that's not needle
@@Lukaz2205 I made it reeeeeeal simple and sold the Mondeo :)
Brilliant videos Alan, theyre bloody hilarious! Question is, whats your personal car? Do you like the familiarity of a Mondeo of your own or are you sick of the sight of them?
lol, i drive a rusty vito van
You are one lucky git. Working on stuff that isn't rusted solid. Look how easy it all came apart!
Ford does seem to have issues with drive shafts. I saw one worse than that on a Focus ST.
lol, i would like to keep it that way
Hi Alan, do you know what type of grease goes into the inner/tripod/spider cv joint (name, type, NLGI grade etc) and where best to buy it? Would it also mix with the existing grease in my 2008 Galaxy 2.0tdci 140ps?
The situation is that the inner boot slid off while doing something else and my intention is to simply it more grease without taking the shaft/joint off.
Hi Alan
We have just got a Mk5 Titanium X 180 and I had a vibration on acceleration.
It's just gone back to the garage and they are saying drive shafts.
And as you said the Mk4 was fine.
We have just sold a mk4 and that was as good as gold.
i don't actually remember having driveshaft issues on the mk4....on the mk5 its nearly always the inner joint bearings that fail and cause vibration when accelerating hard..we change lots of them and they are not cheap
Hi Alan I have a 65 Ford MONDEO 1.6 Titanium can you tell me the Auxbeam led bulbs is everything you need in the box do you think they are worth buying thanks keep up the great work brilliant Chanel Tony 👍🏼
hi, the h7 connection on the led bulbs plug straight onto your headlamp wiring but the plug connector must be fitted the right way round..all is in the box you need, mine are still working well, they are much brighter but i doubt if they will last as long as they say but its a gamble... you could go for the brighter halogen h7 bulbs and weigh up the price difference
Another excellent how too video 👍 if you think it's necessary ( do you ever change gearbox oil ? 🤔) if so ,,,, any chance you can do a
How too change a mk4 mondeo gearbox oil video ????
Col Rock100
Hi yes I can do that.. will do
@@alan4x
Top man 👍
all my local mechanics just scratch their head then say " you don't need too change it " ! 🤔
I’ve had the same issue with a mk4 1.8 2009. I just replaced the bearings
1. What is the part number of this inner joint cross joint, where can it be purchased?
2. How much play does the new driveshaft have?
My 2015 2.0L Mondeo estate has developed a fault whereby I can also hear a “clunk” and when I grab the outer driveshaft near the cv joint, if moves up and down. Apparently, the outer cv joint is £350 and a complete driveshaft with the inner and outer cv joints will cost £390. I need to investigate further before I spend my money
Did u had also a rotating squicking noise when driving?
Al final tengo una pregunta ?!
Cual.es.mejor ?! MK4 o MK5 ?! Puedes contestar ?!
Good morning, and sorry I'm writing with the translator) if you could help me where I can buy the same pieces, I have the same problem. Thank you
Did the mk5 inner joint have the black Molly grease in or normal you would think ford would put molly in the kit the Molly would last longer!
Is this a known issue? What was the mileage of this car that you had to replace it?
Where did you buy that kit ? Thanks
Hi fella had the same with my mk3 st220 inner cv falled and destroyed the carrier bearing fords wanted over 600 quid for a complete shaft and a 3 week wait
that sounds about right for ford lol
Is the driveshaft available, as a cheaper after market part, at your local motor factors?
no not yet, i tried but no one supplies one yet
Hi Alan could you tell me what the torque is driveshaft nut please
How about on AWD model? Any issues? Is it better to avoid them?
My inner joint is gone to on my mk4 it half popped out and boot what’s off on same end I found one off the spider bearings the needle bearings had fallen out well most of them how do I get the bit out off gearbox to rebuild drive shaft thanks
Hi,
I have a 2015 mk5 mondeo and when I pass 100kmh the vehicle starts to vibrate a lot. I have already detected that the bearings and bearing housing are loose. Could you help me find the bearings and bearing housing reference?
Thanks
you can't get the bearings by themselves, i have looked too, you have to buy new driveshaft inner joint assembly...very expensive
Did this issue cause a wobble when driving?
where were the needle bearings at ?
can't be any worse then a aftermarket set of shafts I bought for my mk2 all the joints clicked out the box.
lol
Alan, What parts did you buy to complete this job please? Or anybody else that has completed this job.. Cheers Ricky
i have to buy the inner driveshaft assembly from ford which is really expensive...when all i really need is the bearings, but i can't find them sold separately
@@alan4x I can't get the ball joint to come off. It is free and loose but the arm does not seem to go low enough to remove. I am using a massive lever. Any thoughts mate? Cheers Ricky
Mk5’s Mondeo’s are lovely, but a nightmare
Do 2018 Jan have this problem?
If you have an account with ford, then are they trade prices your quoting? Guess retail prices would be a lot more?
yes trade prices
Where can I find those bearings? I've the same problem and need to place only bearings, i had my problem on the passenger side :(
as far as i know you have to buy the driveshaft assembly kit at great cost to get those bearings
Thank you for the video and your answer mate, after a week search I couldn't find bearings but I went to junkyard and found a whole driveshaft from a smax 2017 which had mmt6450 transmission and guess ;) same size same tooth bought for 20 dollars and installed to my car, driving like 2 weeks no issue.. Going to do wheel alignment today and I hope I fixed my problem do you think it will be a problem to do a smax shaft on my mondeo? Have a great day!
All us mechanics are nutters lol
Were the parts really stolen from the parcel? If so, the suggested course of action is to refuse accepting it when it arrives. It will be then sent back, leaving the burden of figuring out who takes the responsibility between the parcel company and the sender.
i did not take delivery of the package, yes the parts were really missing, we have an account with ford, they just take it back and issue a credit note, no questions asked
2017 mondeo var bende 8000 bin km de daha aks arızası verdi değiştiler kronik galiba
What is the part number on this set?
Does the 350 pound come out of your money or the drivers
the company will pay for it, drivers only pay if they crash the cars
@@alan4x
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Not a good idea to spray wd40 near joints... As we all know oil (petrol) doesn't make a pair with rubber... it corrodes it. I wonder about the grease is it silicone based?
Hi all. Does anybody knows the spare part FINIS code for this inner driveshaft?
he`s lost his bearings
...Ok, i will see myself out
Wipe this shaft a lidl lol. What was the mileage on this one?
hi,,,, 120k miles
Has anyone managed to identify these 3 bearings yet?
Sir u are my last hope, I have wobbly wheel at 90+km/h, I changed almost everything on the front side, wheels, bearings, suspension side, nothing saved my car. Could driveshafts cause this wobbling problem if they don't feel bad as in your video?
Hi yes of coarse a worn out driveshaft joint can cause a wobble
What do they say FORD stands for? Is it Fix Or Repair Daily?? 😁😁
with these prices you will be bankrupt in a week
Can you buy just the spider and 3 bearings, rather than the whole drive shaft assembly?
no, you have to buy the complete inner shaft kit
Malcarper if you need just bearings you can buy seperate 19945 febi .
@@dansud1848 I tried to buy these bearings, and 19945 is the intermediate bearing and not the 3 bearings that sit on the spider.
Would this present with a clunking when steering to the right?
it could well be
Alan Howatt thanks only had it 5 months but it’s preowned and it’s doing my head in. Only does it when stationary or under 30mph but is noisy as hell and I can feel it through the steering wheel
Viele Dank fur Video. Kannst du mir parts nummer geben? Danke
Why not normal cv grease? Looks like the grease was the problem.
the grease on the inner joint is different to the outer joint, i don't know why
@@alan4x i just done the spider bearing on mine and put in 2 packs of normal cv grease.
@@robnulty9462 ahh, the inner joint should have a creamy yellowish coloured grease
@@alan4x that bearing shouldnt be failing at low mileage, to do my shaft cost me £60 with a new boot so ill chance the cv grease. Jaysus my old vw passat drive shafts and boots are still original at 300k and i drive hard, no yellow grease in those shafts.
@@robnulty9462 yeah, i sure that cv joint grease will be just as good, i don't know why they use different grease in the inner joint but it still not saving the bearings from wearing out
How long is the warranty .For a car less than 3 years old.what was the milage.
i always miss the mileage ahhh.... the warranty is usually 60k miles i year i think.....or you can get 100k miles 3 year warranty. this car had done 120k miles so out of warranty
Thanks for reply.Scared me because thinking to upgrade from my mk4.Normal driving at 10.000 miles is 10 years.But good info.Because most cars for sale are 50.000 plus for sale.You can see why the bearings had been stolen/Looked like you could just replace them,instead of a complete shaft.
Dude... i only replaced the boot on the axle and my bearings were in perfect shape after 270k km... Apparently my focus 2.0 tdci from 2009(Non DPF) is better made... Fucking hell ford what are you doing?????? Not to mention that i've never had engine problems apart from the intercooler hose which i fixed for 2$.