The most important thing with Underlord is surviving... If you win a team fight and you survive you can pretty much take down a full tower single handedly with all the bonus damage from dead enemy heroes. Nothing is as bad for the enemy towers as +200 bonus damage tanky Underlord...
Hello Gameleap! Im a Gameleap sub for over 4 months, and I use more this channel than the actual Gameleap website to learn about dota. And it is not because I do not like Gameleap content, it is just because I feel it is not user friendly. If you can sort (and I mean really sort) the content for every hero (including replay analysis), every content creator, and so on. It is so hard to me to find the content that I'm looking for, that I find more helpful just getting a random clip from this channel. Just a quick exaple, I know there are some replay analysis for Earthshaker in the website, yet there is no earthshaker course in hero courses. Please if I'm doing something wrong let me know. Thank you! Keep up the great work!
Speeed: You can buy the 3rd branch if u want, its personal preference. Also Speed (in a guess the rank video) : [bashes a player for not buying it] Why wont u just spend the remaining gold and buy the 3rd one?
i usually buy 6 tangos, quelling, and 4 branches, and i will deliver the salve later after bounty because stats, why not? u wont need salve 1 minute into the game in low rank XD
I followed this guide, Speeed, and I won my first match with Underlord. The opponents Jud can't even lane against me. Thanks for making these content for us players!
Speed thank you so much. Underlord in low MMR games is just great. I statted to win gamed by improving my teammates, controlling the creep waves and making some saves here and there. Heck in one game I even got MVP for right timings when casting the firestorm. Enemies realized too late they were getting hit by it. Thank you
I've spammed him mid. My go to build has been: Soul Ring > Pipe/Crimson > Atos >Travels > AC > Abyssal Super fun build! The Travels+Atos is usually timed quite well with the lvl 15 talent and at that point I'll just try to join every fight and start to build up damage stacks. Then once I hit lvl 20, I'll also finish off the AC and at that point you become a terrifying rightclicker. In pubs it's very easy to get 100, 200 or even 300 permanent damage and if you win a fight, you'll have 200-300 temporary damage on top of that. Everything around you just melts at that point. I remember hitting for 1100+ in one game, without any damage item. The game did go crazy late either, just 55 min or so.
Ancient player here with Platinum Tier Underlord on 2 accounts. I always go Soul Ring then Phase Boots, 1 Bracer(Optional), Pipe then Atos. If my team can get a Clumsy Net, that’s already a GG if I get it. I’ll be Perma-Rooting people on teamfights. If there’s no Clumsy net, a Dragon Scale or Vampire Fangs is an awesome replacement. If I’m snowballing the game, I’d get a Shivas or a Hex against a Morphling. Hallberd and Solar are optional but are awesome choices too. I cut the wave as an Underlord the minute I get a Hood or a Vanguard and make space . I also get the 200 cast range talent instead of the additional Permanent Bonus Damage. Forgot to mention that Nether Shawl is great too. @GameLeap Dota 2 Pro Guides
Ok, as an avid pitlord player, I am now sold on the hood. I use to bum rush mana boots into atos before getting aura items, but I practically always ignored hood/pipe. I just wanted to have good control in fights. Eventually I'll disassemble the mana boots for BoTs and play "Discount Nature's Prophet" using normal TP's and BoT's to push 2 lanes and my Ult to evade ganks.
Pro tip: u can substitute crimson for abyssal blade as it will give you mobility. I know some immortal players rusing abyssal on underlord and they WRECK games. Please try it
Playing a offlane "support" underlord is great in low brackets. Either your team finishes early or you start swinging 500 damage right clicks and end the game yourself
I'd love to see an update to this! Underlord has been my safest picks for so long, and with all the new changes and the new ulti I'd love to see what your thoughts are on him now.
Hey man just played a match as void where in the laning stage managed to reach 65 cs by 10 with 2 kills but two of my teammates were throwing.. slark and puck hard and soft supp.. what do i do in situations like this.. do i continue to try and dodge and farm.. or do i get together with my team and just try to hold the game?
great job brother speed. everyday i watch your video before i play though it doesnt immidaitely apply into my gameplay im slowly improving my game! keep doing what you doing brother (:
Speeed do you remember in a video u recommended lower mmr players learn meepo? So i did and now some games they call me a smurf helped me so much getting out of that bracket
Man just lastpick meepo and go farm suddenly ur a lvl 18 hero with 3 items and agis when all are lvl 10. My next goal is to learn broodmother and beat the mmr out of them :)
one time i was playing underlord and about 8 min into the game, our safelane became a cluster fuck with 7-8 heroes fighting in there. so the moment i hit lvl 7 with 4 points in q i tped bot, and was able to snatch a rampage and 3 more kills when they tped in after rez. i literally killed their team almost 2 times over in a 2 min window. needless to say the game was an easy win from that point on, i was already the highest net worth hero before all that. i thought time to troll and got atos and meme hammer and literally locked ppl down for 8-10 seconds at a time.
As underlord I have 100% WR,but the strange part is my build order: I start with reaver and every time I get it in less than 10 min. After reaver if im able to kill alone I get tarrasque if not I get hood and vangard (no boots yet ,not even brown boots) Now for me personally underlord has a big spike when he gets tarraque cuz hes able to stay in a teamfight or next to it and join later
Underlord can end the game less than 30 minutes or even lesser if he gets his item. FYI he can also counter troll. So if the enemy willing to play late game. Underlord is the best choice, i had a game once with one of my party member he choose underlord against troll and we win the game less than 30 minutes because of his 400+ damage on underlord.
im a dota newbie, can u tell me how can Underlord counter a powerful Troll with his fast attack speed and bashes? Even Ursa no chance against troll, the only hero i know can counter him is Slark, PL, TB & CK
@@lazypawtato8701 yes i forgot to mention that i also saw Timbersaw with halberd and blademail can counter troll but i didnt know that Underlord without that item with only his level 3 Aura can counter Troll.
I got pipe first item on a DK vs Veno, AA, and SF and team was like 'why pipe tho?'. Queue to me carrying the hell out of the game and being an unkillable raidboss. Had another game some pos 3 nyx was actually trying to flame me about it, carried him also lol.
I have been spamming underlord lately. 73% win rate in the last 50 games. Things I have learned: 1. ALWAYS GO FOR SOUL RING. Try no to skip it because at some point, trust me, you will lose an important tf because you have no mana. 2. If you are against slark and life stealer, or any carry that my slow you or stun you, start with a ring of protection instead of the quelling blade. Both if you are not good at lh. 3. Slark is one of your main counters, his passive is just to good against you and he will beat you in 1v1 even under your fire. Rush boots and bucker against that bitch. 4. If you are against Juggernaut, Spectre, Pa, Void... rush soul ring and spam them to death. And trade with them non stop. They will not be able to do ANYTHING. I actually laugh everytime they last or prelast pick Pa or Mercurial against Underlord.
@@averagecommander disagree. the hardest counter to meepo is winter but thats very ulti dependant. , and after than its underlord. i dont play underlord with support items. i play it with power treads , atos, echo , bf , stanic . meepo cant ever get close to underlord and dont tell me those items are hard to farm. if you are playing underlord the way it should be . you can easily get those items. meepo also looses mid to underlord. also the main reason i say underlord is a better counter is that without ES ulti he can easily die to meepo. but underlords skills refresh really fast and the pit messes with meepo worst than it messes with any other hero
тαиуα yes battle fury . You can easily get 100-200 damge from your aura without even trying so hard . Echo = 2 hits . With a bf splash damge and the fire meepo will cry .
I'd say offlaner. As an offlaner, you must make space and disrupt the enemy carries. If you usually are a carry player, you will better understand how to mess with someone like this because you will have better notions of timings, jungle patters, enabler items, etc. But with this role, you also have to find farm where you can without harming your carries' by pushing the lanes and getting dangerous camps.
10% magic res for your entire team. So basically nullifies a enemy kaya a 2000 gold item, and that is just the aura passive... Like wtf I know speed calls things broken too much but for a 3000 gold item pipe is fucking broken.
You can't imagine those safelane hero faces when i deny all my waves while my Q last hits for me LOL. Poor safelaners underfarmed AF. Get Pipe and Crimson afterwards and see them crying on replays LOL.
my team never gets auras even tho i ask them nicely for them meanwhile the other team gets auras even on a lich RUFL i still win most of my games but it is so annoying
@Sohan Biswas do not think its wrong rufl he gets it like at min 14 since he rapes lane and gets so many kills from my safelaners its just dumb i really hate 5k
Since boots give a % move speed bonus having a lvl 10 or 15 move speed talent on your hero, buying a Windlace, and maybe getting lucky with a Faded Broach from the Jungle feels very effective on Supports right now. I usually take the HP talent over speed when faced with the choice on my favorite hero Snapfire.
Auras auras auras
Maybe atos
But mostly auras
ORAORAORAORAORA
if i had a dollar everytime speed says "broken" lol
He usually say baraawken
I read your "broken" at the same time he said "broken"
Actually "funny enough"
I am waiting for someone to say this courier is broken...
"Having a hood is crazy goood"
Me who wears it everyday cause i'm an introvert : Yeahhhhhh
The most important thing with Underlord is surviving... If you win a team fight and you survive you can pretty much take down a full tower single handedly with all the bonus damage from dead enemy heroes. Nothing is as bad for the enemy towers as +200 bonus damage tanky Underlord...
Hello Gameleap! Im a Gameleap sub for over 4 months, and I use more this channel than the actual Gameleap website to learn about dota. And it is not because I do not like Gameleap content, it is just because I feel it is not user friendly. If you can sort (and I mean really sort) the content for every hero (including replay analysis), every content creator, and so on. It is so hard to me to find the content that I'm looking for, that I find more helpful just getting a random clip from this channel.
Just a quick exaple, I know there are some replay analysis for Earthshaker in the website, yet there is no earthshaker course in hero courses. Please if I'm doing something wrong let me know. Thank you! Keep up the great work!
The only guide you need: DO NOT USE YOUR ULT ON A NEARBY CREEP!
Thank you speed! I have won 300 mmr since last week when i started watching ur videos
Same bro, ive been ranking up alot lately
Speeed: You can buy the 3rd branch if u want, its personal preference.
Also Speed (in a guess the rank video) : [bashes a player for not buying it] Why wont u just spend the remaining gold and buy the 3rd one?
Sub Zero lol got him hahaha
@@gameleapdota2 ya bcoz im one of those guys who doesnt buy the 3rd one xD
yeah, remember that one))
i usually buy 6 tangos, quelling, and 4 branches, and i will deliver the salve later after bounty
because stats, why not? u wont need salve 1 minute into the game in low rank XD
I followed this guide, Speeed, and I won my first match with Underlord. The opponents Jud can't even lane against me. Thanks for making these content for us players!
THANK YOU for doing a guide video that is an ACTUAL FUCKING GUIDE and not just unnarrated gameplay of some random pro playing the hero!
Speed thank you so much. Underlord in low MMR games is just great. I statted to win gamed by improving my teammates, controlling the creep waves and making some saves here and there. Heck in one game I even got MVP for right timings when casting the firestorm. Enemies realized too late they were getting hit by it. Thank you
13:46 pretty sure it's still called "necronomicon" and NOT "necromonicon" xD
I've spammed him mid. My go to build has been: Soul Ring > Pipe/Crimson > Atos >Travels > AC > Abyssal
Super fun build!
The Travels+Atos is usually timed quite well with the lvl 15 talent and at that point I'll just try to join every fight and start to build up damage stacks. Then once I hit lvl 20, I'll also finish off the AC and at that point you become a terrifying rightclicker. In pubs it's very easy to get 100, 200 or even 300 permanent damage and if you win a fight, you'll have 200-300 temporary damage on top of that. Everything around you just melts at that point.
I remember hitting for 1100+ in one game, without any damage item. The game did go crazy late either, just 55 min or so.
Underlord and Nyx is my best heroes.
Thanks Speed
Ancient player here with Platinum Tier Underlord on 2 accounts. I always go Soul Ring then Phase Boots, 1 Bracer(Optional), Pipe then Atos. If my team can get a Clumsy Net, that’s already a GG if I get it. I’ll be Perma-Rooting people on teamfights. If there’s no Clumsy net, a Dragon Scale or Vampire Fangs is an awesome replacement. If I’m snowballing the game, I’d get a Shivas or a Hex against a Morphling. Hallberd and Solar are optional but are awesome choices too. I cut the wave as an Underlord the minute I get a Hood or a Vanguard and make space . I also get the 200 cast range talent instead of the additional Permanent Bonus Damage. Forgot to mention that Nether Shawl is great too. @GameLeap Dota 2 Pro Guides
The energy in this is really nice and hype, but not so much it gets irritating. Also, it’s real informative and to the point. Nice vid!
Thx man, you remind me of using Underlord again. Been getting my win streak back XD. Abyssal is also seems OP in my bracket with him
Speed THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!! No for real man, THANK YOU for this guide, Pit Lord is one of my main and this help so much!!!!!
Ah pit lord been a wile since i heard that we R getting old bro.
Ok, as an avid pitlord player, I am now sold on the hood. I use to bum rush mana boots into atos before getting aura items, but I practically always ignored hood/pipe. I just wanted to have good control in fights. Eventually I'll disassemble the mana boots for BoTs and play "Discount Nature's Prophet" using normal TP's and BoT's to push 2 lanes and my Ult to evade ganks.
Pro tip: u can substitute crimson for abyssal blade as it will give you mobility. I know some immortal players rusing abyssal on underlord and they WRECK games. Please try it
I am glad that the supports are enough for channel and keep growing up fantastic!
almost divine 1 with speeed big smile
Playing a offlane "support" underlord is great in low brackets. Either your team finishes early or you start swinging 500 damage right clicks and end the game yourself
I have 17 winstreak with it :D
I'd love to see an update to this! Underlord has been my safest picks for so long, and with all the new changes and the new ulti I'd love to see what your thoughts are on him now.
love your vids speed , every day closer to inmortal , MORE OFFLANER GUIDES PLEASE. ! gratz from argentina !
Question sir: Why take +200 cast range rather than the +6 perm atrophy damage? Isn't better for more tower damage? I'm a bit confused haha
Cast Range affects items and auras, not just abilities.
Lmao 200 cast range is huge. The other talent is only useful if you can kill A LOT. I would always pick cast range for sure
Ohh I see Thanks haha
pipe and aura items i generall are my favourite items but... im a support player. Any things to look out for except for the lack of money?
Hey man just played a match as void where in the laning stage managed to reach 65 cs by 10 with 2 kills but two of my teammates were throwing.. slark and puck hard and soft supp.. what do i do in situations like this.. do i continue to try and dodge and farm.. or do i get together with my team and just try to hold the game?
play like 3vs5 and try to carry the game. work everytime and i am crusader 3
@@jawohlmeinfuhrer8933 it works cuz you are playing against crusaders
@@leonardoknoeller6699 so correct :D
You click disconnect and the click the abandon button above the reconnect button
@@vanlalhruaitluanga5667 haha yeah
great job brother speed. everyday i watch your video before i play though it doesnt immidaitely apply into my gameplay im slowly improving my game! keep doing what you doing brother (:
As a player who loves underlord, this was a very informative video! Gonna try to apply those things now!
Informative point and entertaining as always, great content.
Always like my boy speeds vids for the memes
No one:
Not a single soul:
Speed: Necromonicon
Super helpful!
Speeed you're way behind the curve! I was playing him ever since I saw his winrate! (about 2 months ago)
what about dominator? do you like it?
recently i sold my pc,but still watching speeed, gl man :)
just tried it, this hero is suuuupper underrated
30 ms on lvl 10 talent is insane, one of the best talents in the game
Fr with phase boots and wind lace ur like sonic
I looked through every speed talent recently and very few heroes have over +20 move speed as a 10 talent.
Best level 10 talent
i understand the hero now thank you.
Speeed do you remember in a video u recommended lower mmr players learn meepo?
So i did and now some games they call me a smurf helped me so much getting out of that bracket
But it takes alot of time to master😥
Man just lastpick meepo and go farm suddenly ur a lvl 18 hero with 3 items and agis when all are lvl 10.
My next goal is to learn broodmother and beat the mmr out of them :)
title: "the only underlord guide you'll ever need" speeed: spends first minute and a half talking about pipe me: wtf
one time i was playing underlord and about 8 min into the game, our safelane became a cluster fuck with 7-8 heroes fighting in there. so the moment i hit lvl 7 with 4 points in q i tped bot, and was able to snatch a rampage and 3 more kills when they tped in after rez. i literally killed their team almost 2 times over in a 2 min window. needless to say the game was an easy win from that point on, i was already the highest net worth hero before all that. i thought time to troll and got atos and meme hammer and literally locked ppl down for 8-10 seconds at a time.
Underlord is sooo good I love this hero 💙
Why did his ulti and talents get changed? was this hero op?
As underlord I have 100% WR,but the strange part is my build order:
I start with reaver and every time I get it in less than 10 min.
After reaver if im able to kill alone I get tarrasque if not I get hood and vangard (no boots yet ,not even brown boots)
Now for me personally underlord has a big spike when he gets tarraque cuz hes able to stay in a teamfight or next to it and join later
Sounds great, I'll tell my friend in Herald 4 to try it out because that's the only tier this build is going to work in.
i love dinosaur
hey speed what happened to the other creators in game leap? you have the most videos in the site right now
Underlord can end the game less than 30 minutes or even lesser if he gets his item. FYI he can also counter troll. So if the enemy willing to play late game. Underlord is the best choice, i had a game once with one of my party member he choose underlord against troll and we win the game less than 30 minutes because of his 400+ damage on underlord.
im a dota newbie, can u tell me how can Underlord counter a powerful Troll with his fast attack speed and bashes? Even Ursa no chance against troll, the only hero i know can counter him is Slark, PL, TB & CK
@@louieg8825 his auras lvl3
@@louieg8825 even halberd can easily do the trick
@@lazypawtato8701 yes i forgot to mention that i also saw Timbersaw with halberd and blademail can counter troll but i didnt know that Underlord without that item with only his level 3 Aura can counter Troll.
13:45 necromonicon
pipe viable on pos 4 nxy?
Not recommended, only buy it if enemy team have a lots of magic damage and your pos 3 is Puck/WR or smth like that.
Just go for Meme Hammer/Vessel.
In every guide
Speed : This item/hero is broken
Is this the real speed or weird clone speed that doesn't look like he sounds
king kross hahaha
Is Guardian Greaves not that viable anymore due to its cost?
If it gets real late game shivas is chill, Assault Curiass good too but only if it’s past 40 45 min my opinion
So what counter underlord as safelane?
Drow :) ez underlord, had 5 games with drow against Underlord tho you might need a disbabler with you.
Jugger imo
Spin kills him, ward helps sustain the constant harassment.
Monkey King
I got pipe first item on a DK vs Veno, AA, and SF and team was like 'why pipe tho?'. Queue to me carrying the hell out of the game and being an unkillable raidboss. Had another game some pos 3 nyx was actually trying to flame me about it, carried him also lol.
Yaayyyyy my fav Dota hero
Can you breakdown Sumail Ember Spirit spirit vessel rush?
I have been spamming underlord lately. 73% win rate in the last 50 games.
Things I have learned:
1. ALWAYS GO FOR SOUL RING. Try no to skip it because at some point, trust me, you will lose an important tf because you have no mana.
2. If you are against slark and life stealer, or any carry that my slow you or stun you, start with a ring of protection instead of the quelling blade. Both if you are not good at lh.
3. Slark is one of your main counters, his passive is just to good against you and he will beat you in 1v1 even under your fire. Rush boots and bucker against that bitch.
4. If you are against Juggernaut, Spectre, Pa, Void... rush soul ring and spam them to death. And trade with them non stop. They will not be able to do ANYTHING. I actually laugh everytime they last or prelast pick Pa or Mercurial against Underlord.
What boots do you get and what mid game items?
Edit: and what talents
I gained 300 mmr by Underlord (from legend V to ancient III). If I am strong I won't mind to get SnY to crush all the enemies. Nice video. Thanks!
This is basically AdmiralBulldog's "LICHURLEE UNKILLABLE" build.
wtf is lichurlee ?
@@Vaikisspwnz you gotta glick da belle tho...
GLICK DA BELLE! And thums uup!
Think u can update this guide on underlord? :)
I miss the premanent damage on underlord
One thing that people don’t really know is that underlord is one of the best meepo counters
He's more of an averagish counter, lich and earthshaker are the hard counters of meepo.
@@averagecommander disagree. the hardest counter to meepo is winter but thats very ulti dependant. , and after than its underlord.
i dont play underlord with support items. i play it with power treads , atos, echo , bf , stanic . meepo cant ever get close to underlord and dont tell me those items are hard to farm. if you are playing underlord the way it should be . you can easily get those items.
meepo also looses mid to underlord.
also the main reason i say underlord is a better counter is that without ES ulti he can easily die to meepo.
but underlords skills refresh really fast and the pit messes with meepo worst than it messes with any other hero
@@saeidk736 Wtf BF?
@@saeidk736 not to mention that Winter now can make damage while the enemy is on curse
тαиуα yes battle fury . You can easily get 100-200 damge from your aura without even trying so hard . Echo = 2 hits . With a bf splash damge and the fire meepo will cry .
I usually get destroyed as offlane underlord by some slark+dazzle, wd+pa
Thanks speed. Gonna mute my Crusader team mates. Goin to follow every instructions you said.
Cancer diluc
my dream is to have Speed’s energy on a daily basis
So he's a space factory? Dank.
big fan of your content, but the issue is that you make it sound so simple in your guides, which is not always the case.
Can you make a meepo guide i think it is very good for gaining mmr
you know you can stack hood and pipe bro ?
If you're a carry main and haven't played anything else for a year, what's the next best role to learn in case someone else picks carry first?
offlane but underlord
I'd say offlaner. As an offlaner, you must make space and disrupt the enemy carries. If you usually are a carry player, you will better understand how to mess with someone like this because you will have better notions of timings, jungle patters, enabler items, etc. But with this role, you also have to find farm where you can without harming your carries' by pushing the lanes and getting dangerous camps.
@@HigaaraEndokok thanks man
Spammed this hero, won 6/7 games offlane
This item build is super defensive. I prefer to rush atos cuz it gives him a lot of kill potential.
10% magic res for your entire team. So basically nullifies a enemy kaya a 2000 gold item, and that is just the aura passive... Like wtf I know speed calls things broken too much but for a 3000 gold item pipe is fucking broken.
pipe dmg block also stacks so you can have like 2-3 on ur team and nullify a mid zeus
Underlord is my safe bet hero
Why reveal my secret. Last week i got like 30-5 mirana as pos4 with pipe and glimmer cape. From ancient 3 to divine 2.
which server
What about Tide?
You can't imagine those safelane hero faces when i deny all my waves while my Q last hits for me LOL. Poor safelaners underfarmed AF. Get Pipe and Crimson afterwards and see them crying on replays LOL.
someone's been watching history buffs
Straight from the hood!
And that is why u need timber in ur heropool
I picked Underlord and got stomped by an Ursa Safelane. What to do in this matchup?
Well 1st don't lane against the Ursa and by that I mean pull wave and second get more points in pit of malice.
What do I do if I get zoned in offlane???
As an offlane player, stay behind towers wait for the creeps to push get exp and do jungle everytime your wave pushes.
You won't believe how tanky this hero can be with his passive.
Mirror and mimic
Broodmother revisited.
I just Qd for a game, it works for sure, ez win!
Why do you sound so annoyed and angry all the time bro
Yeah he is annoying when he do that lol why not just say it calmly
my team never gets auras even tho i ask them nicely for them meanwhile the other team gets auras even on a lich RUFL i still win most of my games but it is so annoying
@Sohan Biswas do not think its wrong rufl he gets it like at min 14 since he rapes lane and gets so many kills from my safelaners its just dumb i really hate 5k
If pipe got nerfed in the future im unsubscribing to this channel.
this is a really good guide but i wiSh YoU dIDnT TaLk LiKE thIs the EnTiRe ViDeo
I feel like ms talents are one of the best in the game
Because they are, in most cases. Here, I would prefer the wave damage but both are excellent talents.
Since boots give a % move speed bonus having a lvl 10 or 15 move speed talent on your hero, buying a Windlace, and maybe getting lucky with a Faded Broach from the Jungle feels very effective on Supports right now. I usually take the HP talent over speed when faced with the choice on my favorite hero Snapfire.
i like this one because im player offliner :')
soul ring and atos is also really great with this hero if ur team lack disabled skill, ur W will most likely proc twice
I think I got 10 consecutive win under lord
My hero has been exposed now 🙈