Loving the detail yo go into on your videos , this would apply to small still waters in the uk too. Everything you say makes sense to me , thanks alot from the old guy from England . :)
Hi Peter, excellent information. I always used a floater, a floater with clear intermediate tip, a floater with sink 3 tip and a 250 Grains sinker for my single hand salmon fishing. I was not really aware of the fact that the sinktip-lines were fishing far too high in stronger currents. I tested a clear intermediate line with floating runningline for my trout fishing with super success - using a 10 feet flourocarbon leader and a weighted stonefly nymph tied on with a non slip mono knot. Worked brillantly for big rainbows and will probably work for atlantic salmon in clear rivers, too. Thank you for this video. Best regards!
Really excellent overview. I particularly appreciated the explanation of how fly behavior is different with sink tips versus a full sinker when stripped. Great stuff.
Love your videos sir! Thank you! I wonder if I can pose a question. I am in the market for a 6 wt streamer rod and am considering the Echo Streamer X. I value your opinion based on experience, could you offer up an opinion on that particular rod? I have heard that some people don’t like how soft it is compared to other modern streamer rods. My applications of use would be lakes, ponds, and rivers using different sinking and floating lines with streamers for carp, bass, and Pike all across the US.
I haven't fished this rod so I can't comment on it specifically, but its relative stiffness is really only an issue for how we cast. It's bad news to try and muscle a fly rod and that gets worse if it has a softer action. A slow, lazy casting stroke will send a cast a country mile on a softer actioned rod. Here's a video I produced a while ago about casting a very old, slow fibreglass rod. It can be done with a smooth casting stroke: th-cam.com/video/SbdlSavBEnc/w-d-xo.html
You prefer full sinking int in rivers but what about still waters ? Does the action of the full intermittent is better than sink tips lines for streamers? Thanks 🙏
I really don't have preferences, rather I just use the appropriate line for the job, so in stillwater, I'll use anything from a floater to a Type 7 full sinker and everything in between.
Depends on a lot of factors. Airflo make their lines out of polyurethane (PUR) and they can last for years if not abused. I have some that are 15 years old and I still use them for my striper fishing. Polyvinyl chloride lines (PVC) require plasticizers to stay supple, while PUR does not. Once the plasticizers leach out of a PVC line it will become brittle and start to crack. High quality PVC lines can last for years, especially if they're kept clean and given an occasional line treatment. Cheap PVC lines will tend to crack after a couple of seasons of regular use. Bad casting can crack them as well. Bottom line: take care of a fly line and it will last for years.
Full sink line in the river causes too much stress from all the line sinking around you when you strip in. Full sink line is more suited for boat fishing or with a strip basket. What are your thoughts?
if the line is full sinking but it sinks with different rate? For example sink 6 head with intermediate running line. It will have the same effect like the floater running line and sink tip head/
@@hooked4lifeca so mainly for stronger currents you’ll run a full sink? What would you suggest for moderate current smallmouth bass fishing in 4 to 6 feet of water?
If you're going to strip the fly vs. just swing it, I definitely would prefer either a full intermediate or a Type 3 head rather than a sinktip as tips perform quite poorly when strip speed is added to current speed. Intermediates and full sinkers stay down when the fly is stripped in current, sinktips don't. If you're just swinging the fly without stripping, then sinktips become a viable option.
Buoyant flies will hold up sinking lines. I've had similar experiences with rabbit strip flies.If you want to drag the boobie down, you'll have to put some lead on the leader, otherwise your line and presentation will look like a big "U".
Loving the detail yo go into on your videos , this would apply to small still waters in the uk too. Everything you say makes sense to me , thanks alot from the old guy from England . :)
Hi Peter,
excellent information. I always used a floater, a floater with clear intermediate tip, a floater with sink 3 tip and a 250 Grains sinker for my single hand salmon fishing. I was not really aware of the fact that the sinktip-lines were fishing far too high in stronger currents.
I tested a clear intermediate line with floating runningline for my trout fishing with super success - using a 10 feet flourocarbon leader and a weighted stonefly nymph tied on with a non slip mono knot. Worked brillantly for big rainbows and will probably work for atlantic salmon in clear rivers, too.
Thank you for this video.
Best regards!
Really excellent overview. I particularly appreciated the explanation of how fly behavior is different with sink tips versus a full sinker when stripped. Great stuff.
This was an excellent explanation or tutorial about sinking fly lines. Thank you.
Late to the party on this one but an excellent overview on the theory of the practice. Thank you.
I like the sound of the water! Thanks for the help on casting and line types.
VERY well presented, Sir.
tyvm!!
Very informative. Thank you. I've been afraid to try sinking line, but now, I gotta try it.lol
Love your videos sir! Thank you!
I wonder if I can pose a question.
I am in the market for a 6 wt streamer rod and am considering the Echo Streamer X. I value your opinion based on experience, could you offer up an opinion on that particular rod? I have heard that some people don’t like how soft it is compared to other modern streamer rods.
My applications of use would be lakes, ponds, and rivers using different sinking and floating lines with streamers for carp, bass, and Pike all across the US.
I haven't fished this rod so I can't comment on it specifically, but its relative stiffness is really only an issue for how we cast. It's bad news to try and muscle a fly rod and that gets worse if it has a softer action. A slow, lazy casting stroke will send a cast a country mile on a softer actioned rod.
Here's a video I produced a while ago about casting a very old, slow fibreglass rod. It can be done with a smooth casting stroke: th-cam.com/video/SbdlSavBEnc/w-d-xo.html
Very good piece
Thank you for sharing
Excellent info, well presented, and super helpful. Thank you! (and subscribed)
You prefer full sinking int in rivers but what about still waters ? Does the action of the full intermittent is better than sink tips lines for streamers? Thanks 🙏
I really don't have preferences, rather I just use the appropriate line for the job, so in stillwater, I'll use anything from a floater to a Type 7 full sinker and everything in between.
Always great videos and Information. How long does fly line last
Depends on a lot of factors. Airflo make their lines out of polyurethane (PUR) and they can last for years if not abused. I have some that are 15 years old and I still use them for my striper fishing.
Polyvinyl chloride lines (PVC) require plasticizers to stay supple, while PUR does not. Once the plasticizers leach out of a PVC line it will become brittle and start to crack. High quality PVC lines can last for years, especially if they're kept clean and given an occasional line treatment. Cheap PVC lines will tend to crack after a couple of seasons of regular use. Bad casting can crack them as well.
Bottom line: take care of a fly line and it will last for years.
Full sink line in the river causes too much stress from all the line sinking around you when you strip in. Full sink line is more suited for boat fishing or with a strip basket. What are your thoughts?
That's why I recommend sinking lines with floating running lines for use in rivers.
Very very helpful...There is a reason they are used overseas so much.
if the line is full sinking but it sinks with different rate? For example sink 6 head with intermediate running line. It will have the same effect like the floater running line and sink tip head/
Helpful video. So at what point would you want to use a sink tip?
I use sinktips in moderate flows when swinging flies for steelhead or salmon.
@@hooked4lifeca so mainly for stronger currents you’ll run a full sink? What would you suggest for moderate current smallmouth bass fishing in 4 to 6 feet of water?
If you're going to strip the fly vs. just swing it, I definitely would prefer either a full intermediate or a Type 3 head rather than a sinktip as tips perform quite poorly when strip speed is added to current speed. Intermediates and full sinkers stay down when the fly is stripped in current, sinktips don't.
If you're just swinging the fly without stripping, then sinktips become a viable option.
@@hooked4lifeca Thanks for the Response!
Great explanation thanks
why does my full sinking line to pull the bobbie down is it not heavy enough I have even shortened the leader but it still floats :(
boobie
Buoyant flies will hold up sinking lines. I've had similar experiences with rabbit strip flies.If you want to drag the boobie down, you'll have to put some lead on the leader, otherwise your line and presentation will look like a big "U".
@@hooked4lifeca thank you
Very interresting 👌🏻
Good info