Fun fact I helped set up that Seattle Reign card stunt and was also holding the big ass purple flag on the field (In my previous life I was a soccer stan)
The West will have to have its own conference one day. Travel expenses are prohibiting and a few have kids, even newborns, that will keep them from wanting to be on the road so much. The key about chosen cities is that they will have to have solid women’s and girl’s programs already in place. Farm teams will need to be developed in near future. With just six teams it is great to be able to know all the players’ strengths and weaknesses and their jersey numbers without having to look them up! 😊
As a French male and #1 fan of the PWHL from the first day, I couldn't agree more because of these values that we need in our societies. The Kraken organization have done a lot of efforts towards communities since day one too, and I think it's a perfect market to get a new PWHL team. But in terms of logistics, if Detroit is another good place for a new team (and I would looooove Québec to be another one too !), I think the League may want a minimum of 2 teams in the West to rationalize the other team's trips, don't they ? I think Vancouver should be a good spot then.
id love to see a PWHL team in Detroit for my own selfish reasons but idk if it'd be a good idea this early for them. Yes Michigan loves hockey but if a team came to Detroit they're sort of competing with the Red Wings, UofM and the USA National Team Development Program.
HAHA! Fun fact... I live in Seattle, but I'm actually from Michigan. So I get it. I don't necessarily see the other hockey teams as competition, I think it all works together to foster interest in hockey and grow the sport. I think it's important to have a good hockey ecosystem of other teams, there are lots of options for cross-promotion.
Two thoughts. Being from the Bay Area, I always thought the Sharks tix were hella expensive until I looked at Penguins vs Kraken a couple yrs ago. HOLY....!! I compared it w/ tix in Pittsburgh and they were almost half the price. It's sad how expensive SEAs gotten. Reminded me of when The Warriors went from oakland to SF and it left non-tech fans in the dust. Second thought. I'm a big Minn Frost fan since pre-day 1 and watch a lot of the games. I don't think expansion to the west coast is a good idea yet just bc of the travel time. The travel time collectively would be a lot. I foresee the league going to Chicago, Pitt, Detroit, St Louis, etc first. If they do expand west, it'd be best, IMO, to go to SEA AND maybe SLC or Denver too to create a link. But who knows +shrugs+ Second thing they'd have to deal with is the cost. There'd have to be a big differential between kraken $ and a pwhl club $ We went to the Bos / Mtl game at climate pledge the other day. Lots of fun, there's no way I'd take a family of four to a Kraken game but it was great to see families and lots of kids in jerseys
Here’s what I’m thinking… agree, if they go west they would need two cities, like Vancouver + Seattle. I can foresee travel time being an issue, but it’s a short enough season that I think it would be doable. Plus, if west coast expansion helps secure a national broadcast deal in the US then it would offset any additional travel costs incurred
It would be awesome! Side note: New York should have named themselves something else. "Sirens" would have been a PERFECT name for a Seattle team. (Climate Pledge is actually the renovated Seattle Center Coliseum/KeyArena). As for other cities,I'd definitely say Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Washington, Detroit, Chicago and Los Angeles. I love how this league is starting to really take off. Allez la Victoire! (My team ❤️🤍💙🤍❤️)
I've also been thinking of names... so we already have Seattle Storm (WNBA) and Seattle Reign (NWSL), so sticking with water / storm themes, how do we feel about Seattle Cyclones? We also get a lot of ice storms. Omg.... The Seattle Freeze. Or is that too basic?
I really don't think this early expansion team is going to be on the west coast, unfortunately for all the west coast fans. With only two new expansion teams (maybe) the cost of travel for all the teams would be prohibitive. I really think it's going to stay east coast/central for now, with Chicago probably being the furthest west they'd go. Personally I'd like to see a Quebec City team, because they've been chomping at the bit for any sort of pro sports at all in the city since the NHL took away the Nordiques.
I’m biased cuz I live here haha. I think you’re right, there’s definitely logistical challenges being this far out west, but if we did Vancouver and Seattle as a package deal that’s already a great rivalry, plus having west coast teams could help with tv deals, etc
My only concern with having expansion teams in Seattle/vancouver (although I would love it for these cities I think they truly deserve it) it’s that since there would only be like 8 teams, obviously the travel expanses might be high but also just logistically it would mean that people who watch games of eastern teams play in the west would have to watch games at 10pm until almost 1am…that’s why usually nhl teams on the east coast only have one or two big travel trip in the west since a lot of people don’t watch the games live even for the nhl because it’s quite late. And my concern is that since it’s such a small league, that would happen way more often. But maybe I’m thinking too much about it haha
Very valid concerns. I agree that there would be logistical challenges. But it’s not impossible. The NWSL original 8 included 2 west coast teams (Portland & Seattle)
@@365HockeyGirl haha no but I think you have extremely valide points Seattle would be a very interesting market & Vancouver too they should definitely have teams, if not this expansion maybe the next one for sure! Perhaps they’d be able to find a schedule that is not too terrible I’m sure they can do it! :)
I honestly wouldn’t mind a mostly separate western league/division encompassing Seattle, Vancouver, Edmonton and Calgary that only travels east once a year for a Memorial Cup style tournament. I wouldn’t mind if the league was kinda worse, talent wise, from the eastern league/division. With a combination of aging stars and unproven players making up the rosters. I just want the mega-star PWHL teams to visit the west once and play us once per season, and the western upstarts to have a crack at the inter-league championship tournament once per season.
@ Yes. The main issue in my mind is making sure the players are paid a good living wage while they’re in it though. But other things could be more CHL or AHL quality, like the broadcasts and venues, and you wouldn’t have any of the higher end contracts like MPP or Hillary Knight get.
Seattle? the place that only got hockey in 2017 would be PERFECT???? HAHAHAHAHA EVERY TEAM IS IN THE EAST....(except Minnesota) And in the West, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Vancouver and LA are ALL BETTER OPTIONS.... LMFAO no to Seattle...an actual LAUGH OUT LOUD AT SEATTLE Edit: even Chicago is a better choice for the West....
@@365HockeyGirl Seattle deserves NHL hockey... Seattle is a good NHL market. I might be really angry that Americans feel the need to steal Canada's national sport away from them and then proceed to act like victims (maybe not you) but it's a REAL thing happening... Pretending like Atlanta, Phoenix and Houston deserve NHL teams is batsh** crazy I'm at the point where I just want hockey to DIE in the south - but cost these ignorant owners millions in the process... I hope the PWHL expands West - it's actually the best women's league I have ever watched...it's good hockey
Two things I want from the PWHL: more teams and 10 minute highlight reels of every game
I agree! I think the recaps are too short ... sometimes they don't even show all of the goals
Couldn't agree more. Seattle and Vancouver seem like the natural western expansion locations.
The automatic rivalry between the two will be great too
2 time zones away from your furthest wes team? No
basically how the NHL was at a couple points. Its far from unprecedented in NA sports
Fun fact I helped set up that Seattle Reign card stunt and was also holding the big ass purple flag on the field (In my previous life I was a soccer stan)
The West will have to have its own conference one day. Travel expenses are prohibiting and a few have kids, even newborns, that will keep them from wanting to be on the road so much. The key about chosen cities is that they will have to have solid women’s and girl’s programs already in place. Farm teams will need to be developed in near future. With just six teams it is great to be able to know all the players’ strengths and weaknesses and their jersey numbers without having to look them up! 😊
Agree, agree, and agree! I do like having a small league, because it makes it super easy to follow and know all of the players.
that's a good idea....
Chicago
Vancouver
LA
Calgary
Edmonton/Winnipeg
Minneapolis
something like that would be ideal...
Kraken tickets are expensive! Try getting tickets in Toronto. we would kill for those prices
👀👀👀 yeah honestly I wasn’t sure if NHL is expensive in all markets or particularly expensive in Seattle 🤔
Chicago or SEA🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Chicago would be so lit
As a French male and #1 fan of the PWHL from the first day, I couldn't agree more because of these values that we need in our societies. The Kraken organization have done a lot of efforts towards communities since day one too, and I think it's a perfect market to get a new PWHL team.
But in terms of logistics, if Detroit is another good place for a new team (and I would looooove Québec to be another one too !), I think the League may want a minimum of 2 teams in the West to rationalize the other team's trips, don't they ? I think Vancouver should be a good spot then.
Thanks for the comment! Yes I agree, Vancouver and Seattle seem like a package deal. But Québec and Detroit is also a great option!
id love to see a PWHL team in Detroit for my own selfish reasons but idk if it'd be a good idea this early for them. Yes Michigan loves hockey but if a team came to Detroit they're sort of competing with the Red Wings, UofM and the USA National Team Development Program.
HAHA! Fun fact... I live in Seattle, but I'm actually from Michigan. So I get it. I don't necessarily see the other hockey teams as competition, I think it all works together to foster interest in hockey and grow the sport. I think it's important to have a good hockey ecosystem of other teams, there are lots of options for cross-promotion.
Detroit would be awesome, especially if they and Chicago both joined the League at the same time!
Seattle, Houston, Milwaukee, Atlanta and Halifax would make for great expansion cities for the Pdub
Wait… you might have cooked with Houston
Houston is beyond a laughing stock of an option....
I can name 30 better markets
Atlanta is a worse option than Houston...Atlanta HAS NO HOCKEY FANS...
Two thoughts.
Being from the Bay Area, I always thought the Sharks tix were hella expensive until I looked at Penguins vs Kraken a couple yrs ago. HOLY....!! I compared it w/ tix in Pittsburgh and they were almost half the price. It's sad how expensive SEAs gotten. Reminded me of when The Warriors went from oakland to SF and it left non-tech fans in the dust.
Second thought.
I'm a big Minn Frost fan since pre-day 1 and watch a lot of the games. I don't think expansion to the west coast is a good idea yet just bc of the travel time. The travel time collectively would be a lot. I foresee the league going to Chicago, Pitt, Detroit, St Louis, etc first. If they do expand west, it'd be best, IMO, to go to SEA AND maybe SLC or Denver too to create a link. But who knows +shrugs+ Second thing they'd have to deal with is the cost. There'd have to be a big differential between kraken $ and a pwhl club $
We went to the Bos / Mtl game at climate pledge the other day. Lots of fun, there's no way I'd take a family of four to a Kraken game but it was great to see families and lots of kids in jerseys
Here’s what I’m thinking… agree, if they go west they would need two cities, like Vancouver + Seattle. I can foresee travel time being an issue, but it’s a short enough season that I think it would be doable. Plus, if west coast expansion helps secure a national broadcast deal in the US then it would offset any additional travel costs incurred
But yeah it’s sad… I’m a huge hockey fan obviously but I can barely afford to go to kraken games…
It would be awesome! Side note: New York should have named themselves something else. "Sirens" would have been a PERFECT name for a Seattle team. (Climate Pledge is actually the renovated Seattle Center Coliseum/KeyArena). As for other cities,I'd definitely say Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Washington, Detroit, Chicago and Los Angeles. I love how this league is starting to really take off. Allez la Victoire! (My team ❤️🤍💙🤍❤️)
I've also been thinking of names... so we already have Seattle Storm (WNBA) and Seattle Reign (NWSL), so sticking with water / storm themes, how do we feel about Seattle Cyclones? We also get a lot of ice storms. Omg.... The Seattle Freeze. Or is that too basic?
ok i guess that conflicts with Frost haha
Allez la Victoire!
we need to continue the one sided seattle nyc rivalry of mlb!!
So real honestly, could also make a case for Seattle / NY rivalry in the NWSL too
I really don't think this early expansion team is going to be on the west coast, unfortunately for all the west coast fans. With only two new expansion teams (maybe) the cost of travel for all the teams would be prohibitive. I really think it's going to stay east coast/central for now, with Chicago probably being the furthest west they'd go.
Personally I'd like to see a Quebec City team, because they've been chomping at the bit for any sort of pro sports at all in the city since the NHL took away the Nordiques.
I’m biased cuz I live here haha. I think you’re right, there’s definitely logistical challenges being this far out west, but if we did Vancouver and Seattle as a package deal that’s already a great rivalry, plus having west coast teams could help with tv deals, etc
I do think Quebec City would be great
Agreed. I Chicago makes the most sense and that'd create a Minn / Chicago connection, location-wise
My only concern with having expansion teams in Seattle/vancouver (although I would love it for these cities I think they truly deserve it) it’s that since there would only be like 8 teams, obviously the travel expanses might be high but also just logistically it would mean that people who watch games of eastern teams play in the west would have to watch games at 10pm until almost 1am…that’s why usually nhl teams on the east coast only have one or two big travel trip in the west since a lot of people don’t watch the games live even for the nhl because it’s quite late. And my concern is that since it’s such a small league, that would happen way more often. But maybe I’m thinking too much about it haha
Very valid concerns. I agree that there would be logistical challenges. But it’s not impossible. The NWSL original 8 included 2 west coast teams (Portland & Seattle)
I also know nothing about running a sports league so I could be completely off base here 😂😂😂
I don’t think you’re thinking too much about it. It’s a good discussion to have!
@@365HockeyGirl haha no but I think you have extremely valide points Seattle would be a very interesting market & Vancouver too they should definitely have teams, if not this expansion maybe the next one for sure! Perhaps they’d be able to find a schedule that is not too terrible I’m sure they can do it! :)
I honestly wouldn’t mind a mostly separate western league/division encompassing Seattle, Vancouver, Edmonton and Calgary that only travels east once a year for a Memorial Cup style tournament.
I wouldn’t mind if the league was kinda worse, talent wise, from the eastern league/division. With a combination of aging stars and unproven players making up the rosters.
I just want the mega-star PWHL teams to visit the west once and play us once per season, and the western upstarts to have a crack at the inter-league championship tournament once per season.
This actually makes a lot of sense, could serve as more of a development league / help grow the league?
@ Yes. The main issue in my mind is making sure the players are paid a good living wage while they’re in it though.
But other things could be more CHL or AHL quality, like the broadcasts and venues, and you wouldn’t have any of the higher end contracts like MPP or Hillary Knight get.
Yeah terrible idea. There's a thing called travel and time zones. There's 0 teams west of the Mississippi.
Seattle?
the place that only got hockey in 2017 would be PERFECT????
HAHAHAHAHA
EVERY TEAM IS IN THE EAST....(except Minnesota)
And in the West, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Vancouver and LA are ALL BETTER OPTIONS....
LMFAO no to Seattle...an actual LAUGH OUT LOUD AT SEATTLE
Edit: even Chicago is a better choice for the West....
Haha. Well think about it this way… our arena is the newest 😂
I might be biased tho cuz I want a team 😂
@@365HockeyGirl Seattle deserves NHL hockey...
Seattle is a good NHL market.
I might be really angry that Americans feel the need to steal Canada's national sport away from them and then proceed to act like victims (maybe not you) but it's a REAL thing happening...
Pretending like Atlanta, Phoenix and Houston deserve NHL teams is batsh** crazy
I'm at the point where I just want hockey to DIE in the south - but cost these ignorant owners millions in the process...
I hope the PWHL expands West - it's actually the best women's league I have ever watched...it's good hockey