P90 “Dog Ear” Pickups|How Do You Adjust?
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- In this 31st installment, Jimmy answers the age old question, “How do I adjust the height of my P90 Dog Ear pickups”? Using the Firebird Firefly FFDCS and some Lindy Fralin Dog Ear shims, Jimmy demonstrates how to get it done to “spec”, and how it can be done without removing the strings or disconnecting the pickup.
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Hey, Jimmy. Just discovered this video. Ben trying to sort out (without success) really bad sustain and horrible breaking up of clarity on the higher strings of my relatively cheap Harley Benton DC junior. Thanks to you, finally, I've done it!!! Almost impossible to get dogear P90 shims here in the UK, so I've used a couple of slices of neoprene (?) flooring cut to size under each 'ear' to list the pickup. What a difference! There was me thinking that pole pieces further away from the strings would be better, but, in fact, the opposite. Lesson learned. Thanks from the UK, Jimmy. 👍♥️😄
My pleasure Glenn!
Glad I was able to help out! P90 placement (especially true on the dog ear style and single P90) is extremely important. As I state, most “imports” have this style pickup placed way to low, which gives a more “muddy” sound clean, and much less clarity. Good work on cutting your own shims! Whatever works, right?
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! Have a look around the channel, and don’t be a stranger! Hopefully you will find some other videos that you may enjoy!
Stay safe over there!! 👍👍
Lollar sells them too
@@paulcowart3174
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@@JimmyStewart1 how do I lower it?
@@Popskull_666
Hi Jordan…kinda depends on the guitar and why the pup may be to high. Is the “action” to low? Strings hitting the pup? You could try adjusting the bridge up to give you a higher action. If that’s not possible, you could see if you could get a slimmer dog ear cover, or do a bit of surgery. Try bending down the pickup tabs a bit, or taking down the cavity a bit so it sets lower into the cavity. A few different options..🎸👍
Awesome , To save money i made shims myself by using some 2 mm thick piece of black PVC material ( or neoprene from a Mousepad etc ) and used the p90 dogear cover as a template , Measure & cut it out ( the inner first ) , Works perfect !
Thanks so much for watching and commenting motorrebell…that’s a great idea. Thanks for stopping in to the channel and sharing! 🎸👍
Exactly what I need for my Epi Jr! Going to order it. Thanks for the vid!
Hi Kurtis…thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed! 🎸👍
Nice work! My FFLP came in today, and there's not a single flaw! I'm about to follow your set up directions right now. Many thanks, stay safe and well 💕💕🎵🎵
The Lady Olenna Tyrell
Excellent! Glad you got your new LP! Have fun with it....👍
@@JimmyStewart1 Thanks Jimmy! I've found a minor problem. String action a little high at 12th fret..its a gradual increase from nut to 12+. Neck looks good, tunomatic bridge thumb dials locked up tight in a high position. I tried a cloth with pliers etc,wont budge. I loosened the two top screws of bridge..no effect. Suggestions? Thanks for your time
The Lady Olenna Tyrell
Loosen the tension on the strings before trying to raise/lower bridge. Hit the bridge poles and strings saddles with a bit of 3-in-1 or WD40 or whatever you have around. Work the screws to loosen them up a bit.
@@JimmyStewart1 Hey Jimmy! Thanks for your kind help. An unmovable object just met an unstoppable force 😉. Boy, those knobs and pins were completely in a locked up position, never encountered that before. I have 2 gretsch guitars so I am familiar with how tunomatic is supposed to function. I've been playing for decades. Btw, the tuners are nice and smooth, it's not holding a tune yet, but I'll give em a week at proper tension and temperature. I think it's well worth the money, it came set up with mid weight D'adarios. The blueberry burst quilt top is really fancy shmancy...lol..💕💕🎵🎵
The Lady Olenna Tyrell
Well, one of the things with “budget” guitars is the manufacture has to skimp on some things to keep the price down. The hardware is certainly not the best on these, but usually more than adequate with a little TLC.
Glad you got it, and again enjoy! They are certainly more guitar than the price would have you believe!! 👍
I got lucky with my vintage brand DC Junior. Everything's really close. I was messing around and adjusting my pole pieces like a Stratocaster pickup. I like the result. It seemed to add mids.
Yep! Sometimes you get lucky…😎
Not a big deal, but for P90’s you wanna get them snug to the strings (in most cases) to get those “mid-growls” Fine tuning the poles when possible is also great from dialing it in…thanks for watching and commenting! Truly appreciate your stopping into the channel and sharing. 🎸👍
Great video. Also enjoyed your other movies. The westerns and "It's a Wonderful Life"
Ha!! 🤣
Thanks so much for watching and commenting David!! Glad you enjoyed! Remember, for each video you watch, a angle gets it wings! 👍
@@JimmyStewart1 HaHa. I'm about to switch out a set of dog ear 90's in a Loar LH 302 T, (Gibson ES125 Clone), and might need to shim the new pickups when they arrive. You video helped with shim options.
@@davidcudlip6587
That’s great David! Glad it helps you out! Appreciate your kind comments and hope to see you around the channel! 👍🎸
I made myself a "replica" of an epiphone coronet. I used just a pair of rubber grommets to raise the pickup, its border is kinda floating about 3mm above the body.
Great idea Jose and congrats on your build! Thanks so much for watching and commenting! Appreciate your stopping in to the channel and sharing! 🎸👍
Nice video, thanks for the information. I just bought the Grote Jazz guitar. I did a fret level, crowning, and polishing. This pup is way to low and needs to be shimmed. I bought my shims from MOJOTONE and got all 3 sizes for just $8.00. The ones you bought may be of a better quality, but on a $150.00 guitar, the MOJOTONE ones will work fine for me. Thanks again! Stay safe.
Good information Gregory, thanks for watching and commenting! I just went with the Lindy Fralin’s out of reputation, but yeah, lots of lower cost options out there for sure.
I also did my Grote Jazz it it made a huge difference in the tone of that guitar. I did a video of that mod too, should you care to watch!
Thanks again, and have a safe, healthy and Happy New Year! Hope to see you around the channel! 👍
Thx jimmy real helpfull for my epi jr
My pleasure and glad it was helpful to you! Thanks so much for stopping into the channel! 🎸👍
Thank you for this informations . But to be true, I would have liked to hear the difference between before and after uplifting the p90.
Thanks for watching and commenting vielstein…I did do a initial review and demo of this guitar “prior” to shimming the pickup, but yes I agree I should have given some tone samples in the video of both “pre and post” shimming. I appreciate your stopping in to the channel and sharing your thoughts! 👍🎸
Lollar makes the shims too Need to do my Jr as well Good Demo Jimmy
Thanks so much! Thanks for the info!
Appreciate your watching and commenting! 👍
Thanks for that Jimmy most appreciated, Subscribed 🙏🏻
Hi Kia…thanks so much for watching and commenting! Welcome to the “good side” and hope to see you more here on the channel! Truly appreciated! 🙏👍
Never knew the difference! Good to know. Friend of mine was wondering how to lower his on one of his guitars.
Owen Halfpenny
Glad you enjoyed and even learned something new! 😎
@@JimmyStewart1 hi jimmy, I always wonder, why P90 Pickups are setup high near the Strings, is that a Standard for setup of P90s ? While other pickups, SRV style are setup low on the strings
@@bryantherocker It just depends on the sound you want.
Bobby G
Yeah, P90 pickups are really a type of single coil with wider magnets. Pickup height is really more a personal choice depending on the sound you are going for. Gibson does however, recommend around 1/16th height from the bottom of the string to the top of the pole (measured while holding down the string at the last fret) as “spec”.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Don’t be a stranger to the channel and stay safe! 👍
Put a Capo on the neck to hold the (loosened) strings in place and remove your stop tail...same thing with a Fender neck. Get those strings out of the way.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting Tony! Good suggestion, and appreciate your stopping in to the channel! 👍🎸
Hope we hear the before and after... You are correct, height is paramount. My preference is lower. I want them clean and start to get hairy when striking hard. If recording, gigging I go with what the song needs by adjusting the amp. Your instruction should help many. Thanks Jimmy!
In my initial review of the guitar, I gave a demo of course and talked about the need to possibly raise the P90 on this. I never did a pre/post comparison in the same video.
I can say however, that I like the sound much better now, especially with mild to mid overdrive. Not nearly as muddy as it was initially, and clean it still sounds very good.
Thanks for watching and commenting John. 👍
For some reason HBs and SCs strat style work good a bit lower than the P90 Not sure why but is totally subjective
@@paulcowart3174
Pretty sure it has to do with the width and the way P90’s are wound.
Thanks for stopping in and watching! 👍
Late view but roswell do shims also and I done 4mm on my sg junior and it made a world of difference! To be honest 5 or 6 mm would have been even better to get the pickup to the absolute perfect level to the strings.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting Stu j….yes, there is a number of different manufacturers doing dogear shims….glad you were able to get your SG JR pup sorted out! Truly appreciate your stopping in to the channel and sharing your thoughts! 👍🎸
LOL at the hello deli shirt in the background.
Rupert!! 🤣🤣
Thanks so much for watching and commenting Rob!
Great! Here's how! Great!
Problem. Shims for Gibson clones may not always be quite identical so.....use something else, like the guy in comments used a bit of neoprene. Use any bits of cardboard. Decide the thickness for how many layers and stick them together with Sellotape or kid's craft paste, use the p/up housing to cut to shape, drill accurate screw holes and install. If you're handy with tools, easy as pie. Black the edges with marker pen and no one will ever know.
What if you're rubbish with tools? Ideal project. All you need is scissors, a drill is useful but......not essential. You can mess it up all you like without hurting your guitar and do a great job. £15.00? for three different sizes? or about the same for two? at one/eighth inch (way too fat)? Plus carriage/packing?....forget it. Any paperback book cover will do to get the height exactly where you think it needs to be.
Nice video "how to". Thanks.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes, lot’s of different ways to construct your own shim on a budget if you decide to go that route. The Fralin shims worked out great for me and the 3 different guitars I used them on. Appreciate your stopping into the channel and sharing! 🎸👍
Thanks for posting, very helpful!
So happy you enjoyed and found it helpful Barry….sure do appreciate your stopping into the channel and watching/commenting! Thanks again, and hope to see you around the channel! Happy holidays to you and yours! 👍🎸
Would have been nice to hear some before and after playing on how the height effects the tone. I have a Harley Benton DC junior with a dog ear that's low as well. I raised the screws but it looks kinda weird. 😄
Hi Lou.. thanks so much for watching and commenting. I had done previous videos on this guitar where it was played in lots of different tone settings, and where I decided the pickup needed to be lifted (shimmed). You are correct though…I should have given some tone samples in THIS video prior with both pre/post examples. My bad…
I can say however, that after raising it, a lot of the earlier “muddyness” was cleaned up quite a bit. Truly appreciate your stopping in to the channel and sharing your thoughts. 👍🎸
Thank you for your great instructions. I didn't mean to complain, just thought someone curious to the effect would have wanted to hear. A comparison with raising the screws vs raising with a shim would be a cool video. 😁
@@louaguado995
It’s all good Lou…😎
Usually, you would shim for large (needed) adjustment, then adjust poles for the “fine tuning” of each strings sound. It would be a good video to do…only problem I see is that everyone has a bit different idea on their “ultimate tone” and trying to achieve a truly perceptible difference in tone via TH-cam audio compression would be difficult at best. I try to get as close to what I am hearing in the studio by NOT utilizing any type of “post production” or DAW sweetening of the sound. I simply mic the room via the camera, so small adjustments to sound inherent to individual pole adjusting may not come across very well. It is a interesting idea though…will give it some more thought! Thanks again Lou…👍🎸
Kind of hokey I know, but I took a dog ear cover and used it as a template to make my own of gasket material. You can use various thicknesses of rubber, cardboard, plastic, whatever and make your own- if you're cheap like me. Pennies and time vs. 30 dollars. And no, I am not the guy who gave a dislike, haha.
Pops Fereal
Lot’s of ways to make them, yes and I applaud you for doing so!!
Thanks for not being “that guy”...😎
Being inventive and creative is never hokey
nice tip to have at hand! thanks
My pleasure…Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍🎸
very interesting ! I'm trying to adjust my Epiphone Riviera P93 because it has too much bass and we don't hear enough treble ... I'll try ..! Greatings from Belgium
Thanks for watching and commenting Guillaume! As I recall, the Epiphone Riviera is a 3 P90 dog ear setup, correct? Semi-hollow as well?
I would first try to lower the individual poles on the bass strings side of the pups to see if that helps balance between your lows/highs. You may be able to dial it in that way. You could also try “raising” the high string poles or a combination of both.
If that does not get you a better blend, then you could also just try raising the pups on the treble side (foam underneath that side) or a longer screw with a foam or washer on the treble side.
Good luck, and let me know how it works out for you! 😎👍
@@JimmyStewart1 Thank you for the answer ! I try to lower the poles of the bass and treble strings just a little. I try not to lose the sound mark of the p90s ... it's meticulous work! Thank you ;-)
@@MrGuidouille
You will “hear it” when you got it!! Take your time..you can do it! 😎👍🎸
I'm trying to mount a Roswell p90d and the u shaped screw holes on the base plate is confusing me. I didn't know it was fixed. Thanks for info.
Hi Scott…thanks so much for stopping in to the channel. Did you sort out that Roswell pup?
@@JimmyStewart1 I'm on it now. I'm using it as a middle pickup on a Mexican strat flanked by two humbys. Going to sound special I think.
@@JohnnnyGash
That sounds interesting….H90H…hmmm…let me know how it turns out for you…👍🎸
It seems that the pickup is parallel with the body of the guitar, and at slight angle with the strings. As you bring the pickup closer to the strings it might matter more, did you notice any impact?. To remedy that the shin can be made to be slightly ticker (or taped up) on bridge side to level the pickup with the strings.
Thanks for watching and commenting Daniel. Yes, raising the pup gave quite the impact. Less muddy, more mids and still has the “gruffy twang” I like from a P90.
I didn’t notice any slant in the pup. Will have to take another look, but it seemed fine to me. Good points, however. I did bring the poles down after shimming the pup.
Again, thanks for watching and appreciate your stopping in! 👍
30 dollars for 3 shims....oh my! Probably it's because I'm Dutch but... for years I've been using just my own businesscards as shims. For neck adjustments and for pickups as well (especially p90's)....
Looney Ink Productions - Eduard van den Broek
Yes, lots of DIY ways to raise them up. I wanted to use the shins simply for esthetic reasons and have three single P90 guitars that needs them. I agree, pretty “pricey” but what isn’t these days. Thanks for watching and commenting and stay safe! 👍
@@JimmyStewart1 you've got a point there, Sir. Sometimes just simply functional isn't the proper solution. Esthetic reasons do count as well. Stay safe.👍
Quiksilver
Yep...lot’s of ways to do it. I prefer using a shim, as I can get the height I need and it looks better in my opinion.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Stay safe! 👍
Try Lollar much cheaper
@@paulcowart3174
Thanks for the info Paul! 👍
Hey Jimmy, forgive me if you've already discussed this question. I've ordered the FFLP and I'd like your recommendation for replacement high grade tuners that will fit the existing headstock holes. Thanks for your time and assistance. 💕💕🎵🎵
The Lady Olenna Tyrell
Congrats on your “soon” new LP. My recommendation would be to receive the guitar and play it for awhile before changing out tuners, bridges or other things. Outside of a string change and basic setup, neither of my LP’s needed anything else. If you do decide later to replace, I would be more than happy to give you my thoughts on different tuners and such. No need to spend extra unless it’s really required, and the tuners on the LP’s are quite decent. Give them a run first...you may be surprised! 😎
@@JimmyStewart1 Better than my HB or my Epi's......and dare I say, better than the ones on my Squier Jazzmaster.
Pops Fereal
I have zero complaints on the P90 pups on any of my Firefly’s!
A RISE by Sawtooth lacks a neck pickup, but adding a dogear p-90 may mean a bit of routing (so it is 'deep' enough at the neck...) right?
Hi Doug..yeah without a pickup already there your going to have to do some routing. Ideally, you want about 34mm or 1.35 inches from the bottom of your strings to the bottom of the route (measured in the center of the route).
I noticed on mine at a 1/16 they loose clarity but gain volume so I set them much lower
Hi Richard…thanks for watching and commenting. Yeah…it kinda depends on the guitar and pickup, really. Gibson uses their “guide” but I find your ear and personal preference will dictate in the end. In this case, it really helped the tone of the guitar. I raised a P90 on my Grote 335 style and after about a month or so, I decided I preferred the sound of that one lower, so I removed it. Truly appreciate your stopping in and sharing your thoughts! 🎸👍
Hey Jimmy, hope you're fine. Alternatively, one could just raise the polepieces ? Stay safe !
Raising the pole pieces is possible, but more for fine tuning
Well yes, you could but raising the pole pieces is more for fine tuning each string volume. Raising them as much as what was needed here really required a shim.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Much appreciated.
Cheaper to digital 3D print the shims to suit
Thanks for watching and commenting! I am sure you are probably correct superelectric45, except for those who may not own a 3D printer! Unless the price on those have come way down, I think the shims are a bit less expensive! 😎
Seriously though…making your own is certainly a option whether you 3D print one, carve one, use a credit card or whatever.
Appreciate your stopping in to the channel and sharing your thoughts! 🎸👍
What about just putting washers under the pickup at the screws?
You could do that...lots of “less expensive” ways to shim up a pup. Just wanted to show what most would consider the “proper” way and in my opinion, the best looking way to get it done. Some use foam, others cut up credit cards, other’s washers or whatever they may have on hand. It’s all good if it gets you what you want, the pickup stays stable and in place. Thanks for watching and commenting! Stay safe...👍
@@JimmyStewart1 Thanks. Great video. I just got a guitar with P-90’s and I notice the pickup’s can move up and down when I press on them. I was searching to see if that is normal. My other guitar pickups don’t do that. When I press them and release they go back to where they were. These are not dog ear versions. Normal?
@@mrmaramind
They are probably “soap bar” P90 pickups. If so, they mount differently. Soap bars are adjustable to a certain extent, while “dog ear” P90’s mount right on the body. Soap bars are usually on a screw with a spring, or in some cases simply a screw going into a foam backing. By turning the two screws on a soap bar (not the poles) you can adjust the entire pickup up/down. So if the “spring” up or down when pushed, they are either mounted on screw/springs or there is a “foam” base underneath the pup (more common in less expensive guitars)
Oh, and yes, this is normal. 😎
@@JimmyStewart1 awesome, thanks
@@mrmaramind
My pleasure...thanks for watching, your comments and questions. Hopefully it helped you out. Hope to see you around the channel, so don’t be a stranger ok?
Stay safe out there....👍
Hi Jimmy.
I have a question.
I am a old-timer and haven't played electric guitar for many years.
But now I have started to make music on my laptop.
Using a midi controller and virtual instruments.
It's a great feeling a lot of freedom and crazy nice sounds to work with.
But I want to but electric guitar in my music.
And looking on TH-cam videos I am liking the P90 pickups.
It's a rich and raw sound at the same time.
And now my question.
Is the P90 with the hum and for what I can see more personality difficult for beginners?
I have played acoustic all my life so I have learned to control the tone so I can play rock and blues on nylon strings.
But I have to relearn to play the electric guitar.
But learning is growing.
Chris Seger
First, thanks for watching and commenting! Glad to hear you are pursuing music again. It’s good for the sole!
Personally I am a big fan of P90 pickups. They were really the “first” mass marketed pickup, before Fender started their single coil design, and Gibson came out with the humbucker. You can think of them as a “single coil” (which technically they are) on steroids! To me, they ARE the sound of classic rock, blues. The “hum” is quite manageable, especially at lower volumes and for recording, not really a issue. You could always get a noise gate (most computer software recording packages include some type of gate as a plug-in) if needed. The beauty of a P90 is you can get the “growl” when needed, along with some nice mid-twang too!
Hope that helps answer your question! Feel free to check out the channel and ask questions whenever you need. Glad to help, and don’t be a stranger to the channel in the future, ok! Thanks again for visiting, and stay safe! 👍
p90's will hum a little on a clean amp, but a lot on a high gain amp. They do make stacked p90's, they're 2 coils stacked on top of each other. It gets rid of the hum but has a different tone, a bit thicker sound.
Very helpful video and thank you for your service shipmate.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting Robert! Appreciate the kind words, and glad you found the video helpful! I will assume you are also ex-Navy? I am a retired Chief from 74-94. 👍
@@JimmyStewart1 aye aye. 87-91, tin can sailor.
@@speedinbob
BZ shipmate!! 👍
Hi. What brand shims? Thanks
Hi Peanut…I used shims from Fralin on this. A little bit pricey, but worth it in the long run. Truly appreciate your stopping into the channel…🎸👍
Great vid! I have a les paul jr tribute double cut with a soap bar pickup and for some reason when I tighten the screws the pickup goes up and when I loosen them they go down any fixes?
With the soap bars, they are usually mounted on screws/springs and or with “foam” underneath the pup. Tightening the screw pushes the head of the screw down into the cavity, (or the foam) thereby “lifting” the pickup. Opposite obviously when loosening them. Check to see if you have springs or foam or both.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Appreciate your stopping in! 👍
For a classic 1950 ear dog p90 i have to use a 500k pot?
Thanks so much for watching and commenting Davi…the general rule of thumb has been for humbuckers use 500k and for single coils use 250k
What about P90’s? Well they are really a single coil, but most treat them with 500k pots like a humbucker. There is still the debate out there, but nobody says you “have to use a 500k” pot, especially in the tone pot!!
I believe Gibson used 300k or 350k. Some people find 500k too bright or harsh. I just roll back the tone knob, problem solved
@@louaguado995
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Lou…🎸👍
Thanks
Eugene Eaton
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I’m in love with your double cut jr. What year is it from?
Hey, thanks so much for watching and commenting Danny…this double cut is from one of the 1st batches in 2019…
It’s a fun guitar…thanks again for stopping in to the channel…much appreciated! 👍
Will the magnets now interfere with intonation ?
Hi Pulk Theband…thanks for watching and commenting. The recommended P90 spec height from Gibson is 3/64 from top of pup to bottom of string when fretting string from the 12th fret. This was what I was shimming the height to. I didn’t have any issues with intonation and honestly don’t think moving the pickup height to recommended spec would interfere. Appreciate your stopping in to the channel! 🎸👍
Hi Jimmy on a 2 pickup es330 guitar is the neck pickup not as tall as the bridge, I ordered a set and they were the same height so I sent them back. Just wondering if you would know . By the way great video.
Eugene Eaton
Normally, yes. The neck pup will be lower than the bridge. Gibson “spec” is 2.4 mm for the neck, and 1.6 mm for the bridge (top of pole to bottom of string)
This gives the best “mix” of tone using both, when using neck you get the mellow mids, using the bridge, more attack and definition.
Depending on your style and sound of course, you can deviate to your hearts desire, but that’s the spec set by Gibson engineers.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Much appreciated....👍
I think Jimmy may have meant 30 dollars for three sets. I bought mine from MojoTone. I got three different sized shims for 10 dollars, not for thirty dollars.
Hi Jimmy
what is the improvement on the sound after this change?
I am thinking of doing the same thing on my Les Paul JR copy.
today I have a mojotone hot P90 dogear and it's 4 mm up to the strings.
I live in Brazil and I don't know if I can find those shims here.
but if it is a major improvement on the sound I can by theme on the ebay.
Hi Chris…thanks so much for watching and commenting. P90’s usually respond with a bit less “muddyness” if placed a bit closer to the strings. This is mainly due to the construction of a P90 in general, being wider and flatter. If the sound you get now from your pickup works for you, then obviously nothing to do. If you are looking to help “clean it up a bit” then perhaps it is setting to low and would benefit from a lift. You could try cutting your own shim using a old credit card or hotel key if you can’t find a proper shim. Your ear will tell you if it’s a major improvement or not…experiment a bit with a home made shim and see what you think. Then you could locate or build a proper shim for aesthetic purposes if you wanted! I would think you would hear a pretty big difference in that monotone dogear if you have 4mm to play with. Good luck to you, and if you decide to bring it up, let me know how it works out for you! Thanks again for stopping in to the channel and hope to see you around! 👍🎸
@@JimmyStewart1 thanks Jimmy for a fast answer.
I will follow your advise for sure.
The surch for that tone is a adventure on its own.
Really enjoy your videos Jimmy.
A lot of experience. And you explain things in a way that makes easy to understand.
You are a really nice guy Jimmy!!!!
@@chrisseger6420
My pleasure Chris…thanks so much for the kind comments! Much appreciated…🎸👍
Hello Jimmy. I have one question.
I have a Les Paul with the standard humbucker space and i want to put p90's. The dog ears are a solution for NOT making any changes on the body? Thanks a Lot and sorry for my english.
Greetings from Argentina.
A standard P90 (dog ear or soap bar) will not fit into a standard humbucker slot without some routing of the cavity. There are however, some styles of “modified” P90 style pickups that are designed to fit humbucker slots. You can look at the Seymour Duncan P Rails or Phat Cats that are designed to fit humbucker slots.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Let me know if I can help in any other way.
(Your English is fine!) 👍
@@JimmyStewart1 for example the p94?
@@carlosnicolasjimenez3611
Yes, that’s one example. There are others as well....I think GFS also has some different P90 style single coils that are designed to fit into a standard humbucker slot.
Remember, dog ear P90’s mount directly on the surface, so height and spacing is critical to sound. You could also route out to get a standard dog ear P90 to mount, but then you would need some surrounds to cover the gaps.
Yeah but! I have a Epiphone Wildcat with 2 fogear p90's. The bridge pup is too tall. The chrome cover is too tall. How'm I going to shorten that. So far It looks impossible. The neck pup's waay shorter. Maybe the working guts of the 2 pups are identically short and the bridge one just has a spacer within the too tall cover to accommodate. I dunno, I just don't know! There is simply ZERO help on the internet anywhere regarding my dilemma.
Thanks for watching and commenting....your issue seems to be the opposite situation, in as how can I lower a dog ear P90, and yours becomes a bit more complicated in that the Epiphone Wildcat seems to have a type of P90 that actually attaches to the chrome covers. So normally, you could buy shorter covers for your bridge pup for example, but it appears from what I have read, that is not the case for the Wildcat. I do know that Lollar is about the only company (perhaps Fralin now) that deals with those style pups. From what I understand, you would have to remove the pup completely and send it to them to modify. I would check with Lollar to see what the options are and if the cost would be in line with a mid-priced instrument like the Wildcat. When you say the bridge pickup is “too tall” do you mean the strings are hitting it? Are the poles all the way down? You could try raising the bridge if that’s the case. Remember, P90’s like being close to the strings...1/16 from bottom of string to top of pole...
Excuse me sir,if I may,I have a question please, I'm interrested in buying an Epiphone Riviera which has 3 P90s on it and it doesn't appear to have too much of a space for the pick(hits on the middle pickup...mostly)...I'm thinking of routing it down(at least the middle pickup) and raise the pole pieces(and actually those Gibson specs-a 16th of an inch looks too high for me-very shallow string gap) I won't take it too much down..just so much so that that 16th of an Inch(perhaps I'll leave even a bit more space)would be spaced only by the pole pieces only...will it work-in terms of a good tone-will the guitar have problems on the body of the guitar warping through time,if I remove matterial(let's say for all the 3 cavities from the center block that it has...?!? -I'm terribly sorry for this too long comment/question...but it would be very valueable for me-I am hoping that you are able-and available to respond...and Thank you Very much !
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Thanks for watching and commenting! As I recall, the Riviera has 3 “soap bar” P90’s. They are normally adjustable for height. Pickup height is really a matter of taste honestly, unless the pickup is so low/or so high that the magnets can’t properly detect string vibration. Lower, more mids and mellow, higher, more bite and definition.
You should be able to raise/lower those pickups without issue and adjust the poles to correspond to the fretboard radius for each string. As far as removing material from the pickup cavities, it’s hard to tell. Depends on how much you plann to remove, or how much is actually there. You could simply remove or disable the center pup if you wanted too. Lot’s of options but I still think you could lower without issue. Hope that helps a bit....👍
@@JimmyStewart1 Thank you sir,for answering me in such short notice,and for your detailed information..!!! -...I wish it were true to that Riviera I've seen...but Unfortunately! it's got Dogear P90s on... It could be that there was perhaps an earlier version of it(??)and now they make it like that with Dogear P90s on it...I don't know...(?!) For the rest of your,so detailed description and information-Yes!-I think I understand now-And I thank you so much,again,sir !!!
jimmi
My bad...I thought they were soap bars from memory, but yeah...your correct. I think Lindy Fralin makes a “low profile” style dog ear case too! Shaving a couple 16th’s from the pup cavity if you needed to I don’t think would be a huge deal either...again you would have to pull the pups and see what you have behind them. Or you may just buy the guitar first...play it awhile and then make those decisions if needed. You may find you like it the way it is....😎
@@JimmyStewart1 Oh that's allright sir...I myself thought there could be an earlier type...where Rivieras where made like you said...I don't know the whole history of this guitar But Thank you so much for answering Again !!! ...Yeah that's what I am thinking too..about shaving it..couple of 16ths probably won't hurt the guitar...on the other hand...a brand new instument..it kinda gives you chills......too much uncertainty...you know... that's why I asked-and I asked so I won't have to buy it if I'm not sure if i can fix the problem...Unfortunately I don't have that luxury :( of buing an instrument that I may perhaps regret it in a near future... -But I Thank You So Much Again for all the details and Help...!!! Have a nice day sir !!!
jimmi 👍
Hi, I have a epi casino with p90 dogears but it sounds with excessive low end do you think the polepiece has something to do with that?
Thanks for watching and commenting! It’s quite possible that you bass strings are too close to the poles. I would back them down as low as you can, then test to dial them in to your liking. Check the tone with all different combinations. Depending on your string gauge, you should be able to get the right blend between lows/mids/highs by fine tuning the poles. If the pups themselves are either too high (back the poles down) or to low (shim or place foam underneath to raise them up).
Hope that helps! 👍
@@JimmyStewart1 thanks a lot, ill try that
@@cacacoco2
Great! Let me know how you make out. Remember, P90’s tend to be a bit “mid” heavy, but shouldn’t be too “bass” heavy as you indicate. They are after all, single coils so you should be able to dial in some “chime” though not as pronounced as say a Tele or Strat. What you should be going for is a “thick chime” if that makes sense. Then, if you are pushing them either via a pedal or tube amp they should be relatively clean.
Epiphones usually have pickups with too much bass response. I believe it's their volume controls. I'll bet if you measured then they would be under 250k! Have you tried a treble bleed circuit? Only cost a couple of dollars but it really cleans up the bass mud.
drkevguitar.com/2016/11/24/treble-bleed-mod-roundup/
Could very well be! Thanks for sharing…👍🎸
Not quite the best measuring tool!!...
Yeah, I know! 😎
I did measure it after performing this with a proper gauge.
Thanks for stopping in and commenting!
Appreciate it…👍
Adjustable pole pieces are a feature of p90s.... Just saying.....
Hi Tete..thanks for watching and commenting. Of course pole’s can be adjusted, but that’s normally for “fine tuning” your sound for each string. Really not enough in the case of needing to raise the entire pickup.
Appreciate your stopping in to the channel and sharing! 🎸👍
@@JimmyStewart1 hey Jimmy, here's my thoughts after 40yrs of playing(59yrs old in couple of months)
Snake oil is No1 in the guitar world.
Tone is subjective.
I've found that raising pole pieces a couple of millimetres can transform a guitar without the need to spend MORE Money.... Already give em to much... Stuff they try to sell us these days.... Buy any guitar (price no object) and daft folk "upgrade" before even trying..... Ffs...
Rant over.
Keep well fella
All the best to you and yours from North Nottinghamshire UK
@@teterouge1472
Totally agree with you…however this pup was “way low” and bringing it up brought out a better tone/less mud to me ears….like you said “subjective” but to me it was worth the time and a few bucks…you can do it cheaper of course…appreciate your stopping in! 🎸👍
@@JimmyStewart1 most welcome. Y'all take care now
@@teterouge1472
Thanks…keep pickin’ 🎸👍
LOL SO MUCH HASSLE
Not really….😎 I was doing it without removing the strings…much easier if you do. You can also try and loosen the strings enough to remove the entire stop bar….thanks for stopping in! Much appreciated! 👍🎸
You're talking to much, just get to the point.
Hi David…thanks for watching and commenting. I do like to explain things…sorry if you found it as “too much talking”….appreciate your stopping in! 🎸👍
This is too painful to watch.
Sorry Shane….appreciate your stopping in regardless…..🎸👍