Maurice Ravel's Miraculous Orchestration
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- Ravel volunteered as an ambulance driver on the Western Front during World War I. Between 1914 and 1917 he composed Le Tombeau de Couperin, a suite for piano, with a sequence of movements, modelled on Baroque dances but composed in Ravel’s own unique idiom. He subsequently orchestrated four of the movements. Each movement of the suite was dedicated to a friend who had died fighting in the war. Despite his own personal experiences of the horrors of Verdun, and his increasing ill health (and what would now be classified as PTSD), Ravel refused to allow a sombre mood into his music, commenting, “the dead are sad enough in their eternal silence.” The music in this extract comes from the Prelude, first in its original version for piano, and then in Ravel’s own orchestration of 1919.
MUSICAL EXCERPTS USED IN THIS VIDEO
Prelude from Le Tombeau de Couperin (version for piano solo)
Nathalia Milstein, piano
Prelude from Le Tombeau de Couperin (orchestral version)
Hungarian National Philharmonic Orchestra
Zoltán Kocsis, conductor
links -
Original full piano recording - bit.ly/3QfDVft
Original full orchestral recording - bit.ly/3Iwo7TI
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It’s already hard to find friends who love classical music (in the general sense). It’s even harder to find Ravel fans!
There are plenty of Ravel fans here!
Everyone I've shown says "it's not for me" :,(
@@Ticks you need better friends, my friend
Anyone who has any musical sense or sensitivity, or who has any competency in music, adores Ravel. If he or she is a fan of jazz, just tell them that the closest analogue to Ravel is Ellington. They were contemporaries and they loved each other's music because they were both exploring timbre, sonorities, resonances, and texture in music. They heard music in similar ways.
I’m one that’s sedimenting under the sea of France, waiting for Ravels arrival but never did. I sorrowed but this came as sparkles enjoys me, I finally have courage’s to ask this: “I’m a freaking Ravel Fan Mah Boy!”
After a concert, a woman came up to Ravel at a party and gushingly exclaimed to him " Oh Monsieur Ravel you are a Genius!' To which Ravel answered "No Madam, I am just able to put one note after another better than anyone else."
I don't believe this sentence is true. Ravel was obviously admirative of many other composers and I don't think he was pretentious enough to think he was the best. Surely a legend. But if it is true, I'd be glad to see your source/reference.
The piano version is brilliant, but the orchestration is absolutely breathtaking. It shows how being a good composer and being a good orchestrator are not exactly the same thing.
Ravel's compositions were brilliant. But his orchestration was a whole new level of mastery
Absolutely!
Ravel even gave life to other composer’s works, like Mussorgsky’s Pictures at an Exhibition
Ravel is simply one of the best composers of all time, no question. He was a perfectionist, and it shows.
100% agree
Bach, but ravel is not far behind
@@julienroussillesuarez6244 Bach is pretty boring
@@toothlesstoe ignorant
@@toothlesstoe Based, as per usual.
I’m a Music student and many friends of mine have never really heard of Ravel. My family aren’t musicians, so of course they haven’t heard of him, either. Ravel is #1 (Tied with Schubert) on my Top 10 List. I heard Boléro once and was obsessed with it for a good month. Then Daphnis and Chloe, his two Piano Concertos, and the rest is history. I dove HARD into his music, and I love even his obscure works (His “Frontispiece” for two pianos is HEART-BREAKING, written right after WWI and just weeks after his mother passed away. Plus, check out his “ Scheherazade,” his two Operas, and his “Pieces in the Styles of…….” Suite.)
I saw Daphnis and Chloe live about a month ago. I left the Symphony hall crying and in a puddle of sheer ecstasy and euphoria. Never have I felt so STIRRED TO MY CORE with such power and stunning musicality from the orchestra and chorus alike. I was in the 3rd row. I could FEEL the music vibrating through me. I saw it by myself, and a lot of older people seemed surprised to see me there, lol.
I’m VERY VERY SLOWLY trying to play the 5th Movement of the “Miroirs” Suite on the piano. (I’m not a pianist at all, but a vocalist.) I’m also trying to convince my voice teacher to let me sing Ravel next semester (like his “3 Poems of Melarme,” his Greek Song Cycle, etc), but he’s UNFAMILIAR WITH RAVEL!!!! 😱🥺🥺🥺🥺 So I’m dumbfounded and trying to convert him, lol.
Also, for anyone curious, my favorite composers are: Ravel, Schubert, Copland, Chopin, Liszt, Bach, Händel, Messiaen, Fauré, Scriabin, Stravinsky, Shostakovich, Rachmaninoff, Reich, Bartók, Elgar, Vaughan-Williams, Gershwin, Lili Boulanger, Busoni… And way more, lol. I need Classical Music friends!!
Really great to read this. Well, all Ravel fans will find friends on this channel! My own journey with Ravel began with Trois Poemes de Mallarmé - I remember hearing it (sung by Jill Gomez with Boulez conducting) and thought it the most beautiful music I’d ever heard. The LH concerto was another early discovery. He is the only composer who published nothing but masterpieces. You are right about Frontispiece. It’s amazing! Good luck with Miroirs! And do learn the Mallarmé songs if you can - you’ll have to find an ensemble to accompany you!
So your favourites are everyone really. 😊.
My mother, a working class girl born in 1920 Stepney London. Even then the immigrant end of the city. But you could go to concerts and the theatre quite cheaply if you sat in the gods. Somehow she grew up in a cultured background. Even if that culture included music hall. She was playing Chopin on her mothers piano by age 9. She used to listen to the bbc classical music programmes and would quiz us during the Lunch time concerts as to who the composer was. She must have picked most of her knowledge up herself but she was a very intelligent woman. So we learned to 'hear' the different instruments and were able to differentiate between the composers. I still enjoy listening to the bbc classical programming. Concerts, talks, etc.
Le Tombeau is a masterpiece, the Prelude and the Menuet are my favorite parts and some of the greatest pieces of music written in any style. yeah that final piano arpeggio you can tell he had a harp line in mind, because even in the solo piano version you can hear it as a harp like phrasing and articulation.
True - it is already a harp-like gesture.
I agree absolutely. I think he even lost friends in the war, and that war was a trough of brutality in a century that perfected brutality.
The minuet always reassures me that life is not utterly hopeless, so maybe his firm grasp on hope--and miraculous harmonies--is infectious! Or learnable.
If you know Ravel well, you take things like that for granted. Daphnis is in my opinion the best color palette for orchestra ever written.
YES
YES!!!!
Да, правда! Отлично!
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Indeed he was. To me Ravel is one of the greatest composers ever.
Agreed!
the greatest
For me, the greatest and in no particular order: Ravel; Debussy; and Mahler for the 20th c. It's interesting that in Ravel's time, critics would compare (as if in some competitive sport) his compositions to those of his contemporary, Debussy. One critic opined (and I'm paraphrasing here) that _Ravel was a better Debussy than Debussy._ Pretty silly, if you ask me... but that sort of critique may have been fed by what Ravel and Debussy said of each other. This from N.C. Public Radio: "... each admired the other’s talents, but that didn’t stop either one of them from criticizing what he saw as the other’s weaknesses. Debussy was perhaps harder on Ravel than the other way around, because although Ravel complained about certain aspects of Debussy’s writing for the orchestra and for the piano, he also called Debussy “the most phenomenal genius in the history of French music,” and he once said that his dearest wish would be, and I quote, “to die gently lulled in the tender and voluptuous embrace of Claude Debussy’s Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun.” (Soap box time: I wish more attention was paid to Erik Satie who -- as said by Ravel and Debussy -- was a great influence on them both. )
The orchestration is more dramatic, but the piano is more magical.
Absolutely no question - Ravel is a musical genius, especially at orchestration! I have to say, Ravel is my favorite composer! It bugs people when they ask me, "What about Beethoven?" and I reply, "Beethoven is relentlessly tonal!" And that's why I like Ravel!
Funny,Ravel didn't like the music of Beethoven!
The final movement is dedicated to two brothers who died their first day of service, 1914. Ravel and Puccini are the only composers that can make me cry.
He doesn't do it through melodramatism. He just simply and intimately points out what is essential to emotion.
Hmmm. 🤔.
They shimmering strings when the woodwind drop out at the end is beautiful and so clever. Almost sounds like fire embers slowly dying
Excellent description.
I didn't realize Ravel wrote this around first World War. That really changes my appreciation ! Gaspard 1908. I never forget that I came here for instruction. But just the score and music.
Indeed everything feels a lot more heartfelt when you realize each of these movements is dedicated to a specific friend he lost in the war. When responding to people asking him why this work is so jubilant and tender considering the terribly bleak context it was composed in, Ravel responded "The dead are sad enough, in their eternal silence."
Finally this piece gets some recognition! The prelude of tombeau is so magical to me, it's one of my fav classical pieces for piano. It just has this mistiful sound to it, I love it!
Musicians love it but you're right, there's astonishingly little conversation about some of the greatest music in the world...I guess that's what this channel is about!
Ravel will always be my GOAT
I absolutely agree! Quite unfortunate that Ravel's genius is rather underrated, but that simply makes his music a hidden gem to enjoy to whoever stumbles upon him and willingly listens to his wonderful compositions! I should really listen to the orchestrations of Le Tombeau de Couperin, because I have only heard the piano transcriptions and I didn't know he orchestrated it!
you’re right about the hidden gem aspect: there’s something so special about him. I would say he was the Mozart of the 20th century really. I always like Louis Andriessen’s remark about Ravel: “You can’t use the word genius for him. He is far more than that.”
@@themusicprofessor I think one reason might be that while a lot of his music is surprisingly accessible, it becomes ‘amazing’ only once you can appreciate how much is going on.
When I was young, I did somewhat like his music, but I wasn’t amazed. Only when I began to like complexity (not intellectual but emotional complexity) and colour did he become one of my favourites.
Underrated? Hidden gem? 😂😂
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I had the immense pleasure to see the LSO perform Le Tombeau at the Barbican while I was abroad in London. It moved me so very deeply. (The Forlane is positively magical.)
The Forlane has sensational harmony!
How did he manage to pull off that orchestration? Incredible!
Ravel was a composer of very rare genius and skill, and no composer has ever surpassed his skill as an orchestrator!
@@themusicprofessor No one composer ? I’m sorry I must disagree.
@@themusicprofessor I must disagree on this one, Ravel is one of the top orchestrators in music history, but i would put two or three other composers on top of him. Mahler, for example.
@@ianperru266 Bruh
@@ianperru266 i would say equal not on top
I played the violin for this piece in orchestra, and the way all of the instruments come together is absolutely spectacular! Ravel's orchestration of this piece is genius.
Ravel was a genius, that’s as simple as that.
He was beyond a Genius! In a class all by himself!
The harp really does with providing texture between the original and the orchestrated version. Ravel's fluid, intricate yet concise writing in the winds however, is something purely genius. He was one of the greatest orchestrators of his time along with Scriabin, Mahler etc.
Scriabin is, in my opinion, the most underrated orchestrator. His first Symphony is absolutely stunning. He should definitely be considered with the likes of Ravel, Mahler, etc.
It's fun taking a stab at thinking about how a piece could be orchestrated when it's absolutely bonkers, and then to see a master do it better than you could have convinced, and in a few ways you yourself had imagined. Love the layout of the video.
Thank you. True. There's no better way of learning to orchestrate than trying to do it yourself and then compare it with the composer's own orchestration!
No questions. Ravel is my favourite composer of all time.
Me too!
I think this prelude is the most beautiful of Ravel's works
Hands down my favourite piece of Classical music
Absolutely love Ravel (and your editing too hahahaha)
Thank you!
Harpist here: I love you Maurice! Thank you for giving us that moment to play. I had never felt like I did when I got to play that gliss.
When I can’t think of any music I want to hear…I always come back to this one piece and it sounds fresh, life affirming and radiant-genius.
Le tombeau de Couperin was one of the last pieces I played with my youth orchestra before the pandemic hit, and incidentally, it was also my last year of high school. So this piece is always seared into my memory as one of my last joyful orchestral experiences since I'm not doing music in college.
That’s why Ravel is the King of orchestration! And the cool thing about these examples where he takes his own piano compositions and orchestrates them, is we can see his genius at work, where as with other orchestral composers you don’t often get to see their piano sketches beforehand.
Desert Island piece for me. Both forms.
Ravel took what was known and understood about musical convention and reinvented the rules for modern composers to grasp =~}
Really great. Thanks for sharing this.
The minuet is the most amazing part of this collection for me. That middle portion seems to be on the verge of despair (he was remembering a departed friend, surely), but pulls itself way back towards the light in such an elegant way. Nobody but Ravel could have managed this.
It is wonderful. The middle section is a 'musette' (with a 5th drone running through it, but shifting register and colour with extraordinary subtlety). You're absolutely right about the "pulling back towards the light in such an elegant way", and in the process, he combines moth melodies with consummate skill. The Rigaudon also has a beautiful quiet middle section, tinged with a sense of regret and loss. The return to the boisterous Rigaudon material is deliberately abrupt as if Ravel is saying, "Time to put a brave face on it." There's a fascinating article on line by Jillian Rogers about Ravel and his post-war music: www.cambridge.org/core/journals/nineteenth-century-music-review/article/musical-magic-words-trauma-and-the-politics-of-mourning-in-ravels-le-tombeau-de-couperin-frontispice-and-la-valse/9E0903200BA51B9EE28309C188A4972D
@@themusicprofessor It is an interesting article - thanks for the link! I can't say I agree with all of it, and I am puzzled by the author's neglect in the Tombeau section to address the Minuet, which I think is the emotional heart of the suite. Well - for me, anyway. I first discovered this work when I was sixteen, and unlettered as I was I knew it had something unusual and profound to say, even if I couldn't describe what it was.
Getting back to the Minuet, lately it has occurred to me that while the opening section has a restrained cheerfulness, the return of it after that musette makes it sound positively joyous. Such is the effect of contrast, I guess.
The French. What would Western civilization be without them?
Such great video work, and your love for this music shining through.
Of course it is the consummate technique of a master orhestrator at play here, but it sounds like pure magic. Ravel was not a mere composer. He was a sorcerer!
Absolutely right!
1:29 Ravel had that DRIP drip
I constantly go back and forth with regard to which version is my favorite (piano or orchestra). This piece is one of my favorites of Ravel, it never gets old
1:28 Ravel's orchestration is amazing. what he did for Mussorgsky's Pictures at An Exhibition makes the piano piece that mussorgsky wrote seem like a rough draft. I really believe Mussorgsky was planning to orchestrate it all along.
My favourite orchestral piece. The orchestration in pure genius as is the composition itself.
It's quite possible that the last movement of the Couperin suite and the first movement of Gaspard de la nuit are my two favorite pieces of music, of any music ever.
Just, unbelievable.
I've spent the last few months obsessing over the orchestral version... This piece is amazing
I've only recently discovered Ravel thanks to you, and crikey am I glad I did, this piece is amazing, especially the way he manages to orchestrate it. I have been listening to it on repeat
Ravel is one of the great journeys of life!
You definitely need to check out more of his works. I have a few recommendations, if you’d like:
Daphnis et Chloé
Miroirs
La Valse
Introduction et Allegro
His 2 Piano Concerti
I have more, but I don’t want to overload you. 😂
Tan hermoso!! Brillante Ravel!
I love these videos so much
Thank you!
love how you visualise it
Thank you!
One of my favorite pieces of all time
Perfectly crafted & beautiful video, somewhat like Ravel’s compositions! Thank you.
Bravo, very nice video.
Bon, je m'abonne ! Vos vidéos sont aussi intéressantes qu'elles sont courtes.
Trad : Okay, I'm subscribing! Your videos are as interesting as they are short. Thanks !
I don't think there are too few Ravel fans, luckily he's famous enough (if only for the Boléro to many people). He clearly is among the first-rate composers. But regarding orchestration alone he is at the top, along with Rimsky-Korsakov and Richard Strauss. And let's not forget Berlioz who was one of the fathers of the modern orchestra and influenced all the three composers mentioned.
got to love how even the wonder of ravel is now being reduced to meme clickbait thumbnails. "is that allowed?" it's a harp gliss, so yes, yes it is
If more people get to know about the wonder of Ravel that's surely a good thing.... But it isn't an inane question: the harp gliss creates a pentatonic scale because of the ingenious tuning of the pedals.
The moment at 1:44 in the orchestral version is so gorgeous. That tetrachord sounds like heaven (Em on top of Am, so basically Am11).
Now I realise what’s going on: that’s how you do a pentatonic glissando on a harp in practice-by turning the c and f down a halftone with the pedals, right?
Anything else that’s technically special about that glissando? (Or did you just highlight it because it sounds so wonderful?)
You are correct on both fronts. It was highlighted because it sounds so wonderful!
There are 2187 (3^⁷) different possible arangements of the pedals. Some of these will have "reversed" notes, such as E♯ and F♭ and would rarely be used (maybe when it's the only solution to quick pedal changes). Others will be "repeats", such as E♮ F♭ G♭ and E♮ F♯ G♭, and will be used as needed.
Ignoring the "reverses" and "repeats" There are (I think) 950 distinct "scale" sounds. These include all the major scales, to four-note chords, such as E⁷ with E (F♭) G♯ (A♭) B (C♭) D or F♯ᵐᵃʲ⁷: F♯ (G♭) A♯ (B♭) C♯ (D♭) E♯.
These are things theatre pit synth players need to know if they want to make harp parts sound good (and if their instrument can do user-defined scales).
very cool
I have subscribed to your channel. I am amazed by your amazing editing skills.
I can't play an instrument at all, but I'm a passing Japanese who has a hobby of writing scores. I will stop by again.
Thanks for the support!
Even though I'm not a huge fan of 20th century classical music, Ravel and Rachmaninoff are clear exceptions to this. Both have a wonderful taste for the more modern compositional methods but maintain a grounded classical tonal structure. Respect what worked from the past but embrace the new.
Absolutely lovely. With my attention span I probably wouldn't be here if it weren't for the clickbait, but I'm not mad about it 😅
My brilliant plan has worked...
You need to realise that if it is the composer doing the transcription, he knows best what was his point with the original instrument in the first place and instead of just rewriting it for orchestra, he recomposes that for orchestra in order to achieve the same goal. Add to that his incredible skill of orchestration, you get this.
Thank you so much M. Music Professor. As a non professional composer myself, what should I say ? The music of Ravel is so fascinating ! I need to look into it ! How could it work so perfectly ?
Thank you. I guess it works perfectly because of the exceptional poetic refinement and precision of its creator!
@@themusicprofessor Yes, thank you for your answer. I consider the poetic part very important when I compose myself but, of course, I can't write as Ravel did. I will pursue nevertheless.
And people have the audacity to call Kanye West a genius! Ravel has always been one of my top five favorite classical composers. 1. Stravinsky, 2. Tchaikovsky, Shostakovitch, Ralph Vaughan Williams, Ravel. But of course, I LOVE ALL STYLES OF CLASSICAL MUSIC (from Bach's Inventions to Xenakis' Jonchaies 1977). Great job!
Some masterful creations came out of WWI. Ravel composes "Le Tombeau de Couperin," and Tolkien writes "The Lord of The Rings."
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Not sure about the premise here. Ravel's piano writing is very colorful and textural. I think it's a natural fit to be orchestrated. I don't think it could be done better than Ravel did it however 👍🏻
I would argue that Ravel was the first composer to take virtuoso piano writing and realise it with equal success in a virtuosic orchestral context. His orchestrations of 'Une Barque sur l'Ocean' and 'Alborada del Gracioso' are particularly remarkable.
Nobuo Uematsu is clearly a fan of Ravel.
poor Couperin
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Ravel is one of the greatest composers of the impressionistic era. Although, he, himself isn't an impressionist, he is indeed associated with this era of classical music.
- A reference to the book, "Ravel"
One of the greatest composers of any era!
@@themusicprofessor Very true, (in my opinion,) If they don't like Ravel, they either may not be a fan and just think of a select few of classical baroque composers, or they just don't like them and are educated at the same time. Ravel is personally one, if not my favorite composer.
@@dann234 Personally, I absolutely love Ravel too! From the way I see it, I think the reason why not everyone appreciates his work is because not everyone can understand it. (And that is perfectly fine.) His music always needs a keen ear or two to be able to uncover the beauty of it that almost cannot be scratched just on the surface!
@@rachmaniwuff8198 Yeah like Rachmaninoff too
I personally think it’s nowadays okay to call Ravel an impressionist. We probably mean something different now than what Ravel had in mind. While Ravel is special, he’s clearly part of a particular era, and it’s now just a convention to call it Impressionism. That’s just how I think about it :)
Of course, if you are orchestrating your own work you are allowed to recompose it a bit if you run into difficulties
It's sort of steam punk music. This is not at all baroque music, couldn't be played with baroque instruments - but it gives the impression of some high tech baroque machinery...
glissando? (Every harpist chuckles)
Is Ravel's orchestration of Mussorgsky's "Pictures" illustrative of his abilities? _(I don't know enough to judge; only know I love it!)_
Certainly - it's a magnificent orchestration!
@@themusicprofessor 😳
An interesting experiment is to compare the different orchestrations of Picture at an Exhibition. You can hear Ravel’s greatness there. All other orchestration dull in comparison.
It's always surprising that Ravel wrote some of the most difficult piano pieces, yet was never considered a great pianist. His true calling was his own orchestral works, and his orchestral transcriptions.
He didnt want to be a pianist,,he COULD have been a great Pianist ,if he had wanted to,but choose to be a Composer better!
Hello, why would it be impossible to orchestrate please ?
The question is asked in the context of music that seems to be composed entirely in terms of virtuosic piano technique - it does not seem 'orchestral' in any conventional sense. All the keyboard virtuosity has to be reimagined in terms of other instruments, and the sustaining resonance of the pedal has to be recreated in terms of sustained harmony behind the foreground activity. The fact that Ravel makes it sound equally natural for orchestra is a real triumph of compositional imagination and skill.
@@themusicprofessor Thanks for sharing your perspective. It makes me think to "Danza Ritual del Fuego" of Manuel De Falla. It was first a symphonic piece (from "El Amor Brujo"). However, De Falla managed to transcribe this piece for piano solo. And the miracle is that it fits perfectly with the fingers, the movements of the hand. This piece is very digital, one pianist can feel it. So, this is the same logic of transposition your were talking about, but on that case, the contrary.
Have a good night / day.
Cheers
Brings tears of ecstasy to the eyes, the heart, the soul, and most of all the body, gushing forth in its erotic symbolism magnified beyond all expectations.
Amazing pieces! But the piano piece is my preference...
Do you happen to offer critique for pieces by your subscribers?
It's possible. We might make a video at some point, featuring this kind of thing, if enough people send in pieces...
Was Ravel a pioneer for using harps? My limited knowledge tells me he’s like a pioneer for many instrument usage( saxophone, snare, and probably the first one knew how to write brasses) if so we really really gave him too little credits.
Well, a lot of composers have been innovative in their writing for instruments. But yes Ravel writes fabulously well for all instruments, and his harp writing is justly celebrated. His introduction and Allegro for harp and ensemble is a wonderful early showcase for the instrument, and features an amazing solo cadenza. In the G major piano concerto, he composed another very beautiful cadenza-like solo passage for harp.
Berlioz is the first composer to have used the harp in his “Symphonie Fantastique,” but Ravel was definitely the master!
In Daphne and Chole ,he uses a wind machine!
what a wonderful piece!
Apologize if I’m incorrect, but wasn’t this movement orchestrated by Zoltan Kocsis and not Ravel?
As I recall, Kocsis orchestrated the Fugue and the Toccata. Ravel did the other four.
Ravel orchestrated four of the movements in 1919 (see the description above). He chose not to orchestrate the fugue and the toccata but these two movements have subsequently been orchestrated by other people.
PRAISE GOD!!!!!!!
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This chord is identical to the start of the finale of Ravel's opera L'enfant et les Sortilèges. Love it. th-cam.com/video/6SmVF7DExE8/w-d-xo.html
Thank you! Yes. You're absolutely right. Isn't that wonderful? It's Am9. Ravel loved minor chords with an added 9th. It's almost a personal signature. Now that you've pointed that out, I'm wondering if it actually was just that. It has a profoundly personal meaning in both pieces.
Wonder why he wrote a key signature, his music sounds modal with an open key
It's in E minor, hence the key signature. The music does indeed have plenty of modal elements: Ravel had a preference for pentatonicism and flattened 7ths.
Anyone who knows Ravel is a fan. Are there any lukewarm Ravel fans?
Hook 'em with Bolero and then show them the really good stuff!
who is the best orchestrator of all time?
Well, Ravel is one of the best. There are quite a few amazing composers for orchestra, several of them in the 20th century.
Oh if you think this is good, check out the Woodwind Quintet version of this!
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The orchestral version feels better than, for lack of a better term, sex.
I'd say I'm an absolute Ravel fan, h-o-w-e-v-e-r, I'll be 'that' guy and say I'm not a fan of the orchestrated version of LTDC. A lot of the notes get lost in the mist of longer played notes that don't fade as it would on the piano. When will there be a conductor that asks the woodwinds/strings that play the longer notes to decrescendo immediately and let the triplets stand out? Or perhaps the orchestrated version isn't meant to parody the mechanics of the piano, either way, not a fan. I'm also not a fan of Rachmanninoff's Cello and Piano Sonata since the piano often plays just too LOUD for the cello to be heard. So see, I'm not being a Ravel hater lol. Much love!
Thank you for your comment, and Ravel fans are always welcome on this channel! (...where you will find a couple of other Ravel-related videos). I seem to remember that Vaughan Williams also preferred the piano original to the orchestral version of Tombeau
Well, it's different music
Amazing.. but i think he hates the oboes!!!!! It s hard to blew and play that t that.....
Ravel's oboe writing is always hard. He seems to have enjoyed giving oboists a tough time. Daphnis & Chloe has a terrifying high G near the start.
Great piece! Have always loved it. But, honestly, we all know you cannot possibly be stating that it is impossible to orchestrate?! Really?! Kind of the dumbest question I have seen posed in a decade.
The point the video is making is that this is virtuosic piano music, and yet Ravel manages to transfer it to orchestra it in such a way that it sounds as good as the original. I'm not saying it's impossible to stick instruments in a score - anyone can do that! What's almost impossible is to transfer the medium in such a way as to create the beautifully crafted, almost miraculous miracle of sonority that that Ravel achieves.
I dont like the orchestral version. Its a imaginative orchestration, but you really hear that he orchestrated the original one. Im more a fan of making a whole new piece of art out of the orchestra. And the ending? Harp for glissando, o cmon!
Why would you even think this would be impossible to orchestrate?
Ravel just took the notes and... did them.
There's nothing amazing going on.
Sure...
@@themusicprofessor what an in depth and well thought out response.
Ravel be playing random shit and the world be like OMG ITS GENIUS
You just outed yourself
what?
Baited LOL
This is what happen when some parents let their child too young access to the internet.
@@BBB-hi4hc its just a joke brother
It seems more suited for an orchestra. A beautiful piano piece, but the single instrument overly constrains it.