That's a great question, I'd go for the lens if it was a good L lens, and just use printing services. I recently got a photobook printed with shots from my holiday this year, best thing I've bought in ages. Prints do look amazing. So now I've talked myself into the printer over the lens. 😁
I've been printing for about a year, on your recommendation. It gave me a huge confidence boost, and helped me become a better photographer. Just last weekend I had my first photography sales, so I am happy about the changes printing brought for me.
I have printed my images for many years but only on a relative cheap A4 printer. About a year ago I bought the Pro-300 and its like a breath of fresh air, the prints are superb.
I currently print on the Pro 200 and am very pleased with it. However, I want to print 17", so the Pro 1000 is on my wish list. The $1300 SRP is daunting until you look at cost of ink for both. A replacement set for the 200 costs $105 for the eight 16ml carts. A set for the 1000 costs about $700 for 12 80ml carts. Subtracting the cost the ink from each, the net cost of the Pro200 is about $545 while the Pro1000 is $600. Plus you may have to replace the ink in the Pro 200 five to six times to match expected life from the original set that came with the 1000. I am on my 6th box of Canon ink. So I, in effect, spent as much running a Pro200 as the original cost of a Pro1000. Those savings might be mitigated somewhat by printing larger but my costs going to a lab from my A2 prints more than offset that marginal disadvantage.
Including pricing was extremely helpful! I had watched videos about these printers which didn't bother, and I assumed prices in the several thousands! I never would have expected this! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks Adam, I bought the PRO 300 because it suited my budget & available desk space. I’m as you said, blown away with it & admit to being guilty of not bringing my work to life by printing it out to ‘physically’ look at & feel it. Now after 8+ years as an amateur photographer, I’m kicking myself that I haven’t printed my work until very very recently. As soon as I got the first one off the printer, I was beaming like a Cheshire cat, & now I’m already getting enquiries & have made a couple of sales. Printing really does make a difference & brings your workflow to life & completes the journey. As you said here, I think it also changes your mindset when you are out in the field composing your images. Thanks for sharing, I’m a big fan of your work & your channel & subscribed ages ago. Keep on keeping on! Best, Nick
This is the first of your videos I fully understand I used to own a printing business. We predominantly printed large-format digital wallpaper, however, we started providing a lot of prints for painters who would have their paintings photographed and we would print them on Hahnemühle paper. Absolutely fantastic video for people who are new to printing their own work. 🖼
I've been saving up for the 300, but my husband watched your video recently and told me to order the 1000 instead as an anniversary present. Thanks for the great comparison between these printers. I enjoy your videos even though I'm primarily a Milky Way photographer.
I appreciate your thoughts and how you approach each printer, not like a pixel peeper but giving your thoughts for different levels of people getting into it and the minor trade offs if you call it that for each printer. Thanks, learned lots from this video.
Prior to the Canon Pro 200 i owned the Pixma Pro 9000 MKII, i used for many years and made countless prints that still look beautiful, for the most part i find the 11 x 17 inch prints stikes a good balance of size and cost to frame with out taking a lot of wall space. The few times that I want a print larger than 13 x 19 inches i have the print made by the company that makes my frames. I started printing my photos 15 years ago when I started digital photography, it was the best decision I have ever made. Sharing my work with family ,friends and co workers opened the door to event photography. I started photographing the Memorial day events where I worked and that led to photographing weddings and many other events , some thing I never dreamed I thought I would do when I started digital photography 15 years ago.
I have a Canon Pro-200. As a hobbiest, as well as selling a few prints this printer is fantastic for what I need. The prints are excellent and I love being able to print at home and control the results I get. Overall the ink costs are reasonable. I love being able to print 13x19” as well and large panoramas. If you’re in the market and don’t want to break the bank this is a great printer.
@@Mrbeads I think it would be about $4 to $5 for a 13x19 print. A full package of all the ink cartridges costs about $120 and I can get about 20 or so prints out of that. Of course some inks are used faster than others so this is a very rough estimate.
Great video. I went with the Pro-300 last year and love it. One really nice feature with the Canon Professional Print & Layout software is printing a test pattern print, so you can see which brightness and contrast settings give you the best print.
I enjoyed the video Adam. I went for the Pro 300 a couple of months ago and very pleased with the quality of the prints it produces. I print mainly in Black and White.For which the Pro 300 is first class. I bought a load of paper test packs to find a paper that I like. The paper choice definitely has an impact on the finished print which is not to be underestimated. I personally went for fotospeed papers With NST bright white being one of my favourites.
You’re right, paper makes a big difference and everyone seems to develop their personal favourites. I use a mixture of Canson and Canon papers at the moment.
How timely! I'm just about to order a Pro-1000. I am putting together an exhibition of 80 A2 prints and realized that there'd never be a better time to get off the mail-order-print train than now. It should pay for itself with this project alone and hopefully for years to come. I am a bit worried that the Pro-1100 will come out in a month, but I just have to remind myself that, like an older camera, a new release doesn't mean that the older model isn't still great at its job.
I'd already decided that the Pro-300 was probably the one for me and this review has helped to confirm that. Less saturated on glossy paper and truer colours for b+w is what I like. Thanks. The difference in initial purchase price will soon seem negligible compared to paper and ink costs.
I have the Pro 300 for just over 2 years. You can’t go wrong, brilliant printer! I don’t use it that regularly, but if I don’t print for 2-4 weeks I just run a print pattern cycle and it’s still working like new!
Hello, Mr. Mike. I just got PRO-300 and very happy with the quality of prints. However, even when the printer is not printing, if I give it a little bit of nudge, as it shakes ever so slightly, it makes a "ta-ta-ta-ta-..." noise on the right side of the printer. Is this normal? Please let me know. Thank you.
@13:00 I've been working on the layout of three books for the past few years and just got physical samples printed and it was such a great feeling to hold them in my hands 😍 EDIT: after watching the whole video, I think I'd go for the Pro 200.
Hi John, potentially silly question but how do you find the 200 for printing documents (mainly black ink only)? I have a small Canon Pixma printer which seems to be very economical when doing such printing. I'd love to have something that I could print A3 photos from though.
@@garethmcfarland7244 it's fine for document printing as well as photos. But you might also want to try the PIXMA iX6820. It also prints up to A3+, takes five cartridges, and costs $179. I had that printer before the Pro 200. If you're mainly going to print documents with just the occasional photo, the iX6820 might be the way to go.
I got the pro200 about 12 months ago and ive only just started to figure out how to edit my photos appropriately for printing. definitely a learning curve
Yes, experiment with the different settings in Canon Pro Print and Layout, especially for Black & White. Also for B&W some papers perform much better on the Pro-200. I have found the Canon Pro Semi-Gloss SG-201 to be a great all-rounder for general use. B&W matte papers can vary greatly
I bought the Pro 200 today despite the fact that the Pro 300 is *heavily* discounted in my country now (less than GBP100 between the two). I decided to spend the difference on some Ilford paper instead. The first print to come out of it on A3+ was fantastic, and I can't wait to do more.
I have the Pro 200 as it was in my price range and I am not disappointed. It produces some stunning images on Gloss paper ( Permajet Gloss ).. I would highly recommend it If on a budget..
Great video Adam , all these printers all fantastic…… I’m still printing very happily with my Pro 100s for 5yrs and has never failed to reproduce beautiful prints, Keep up the great work.
I also use the Pro 100s but had lots of issues with it printing with a magenta cast when using Lightroom Classic paper profiles. It was ok when using managed by printer. I asked Canon what was going on and they said it’s a software clash and suggested I used the Canon print app. I downloaded the app and Have had no problems since using this.
Thanks for this video. This one made me pull the trigger to “go pro”. I have been on the fence a long time as I’m a hobbiest, however knowing myself, I will spend the hours to master the craft. My ROI is not financial but in order to improve my skills! The reason to go for the Pro 200 is because it seems to have the lowest running cost, and because of space constraints
Hi Adam. Cracking video ! I'm still using my Canon Pro-10s after six years and it's still going strong. I always use Canon Lucia inks and the print quality is unbeatable, especially on Fotospeed papers. I sell a few prints per month, mainly A4 with some A3 as well and I can honestly say the cost of ink is reasonable, especially if I shop around. After watching your video I'd love to invest in the Pro-1000 and offer my clients A2 size prints but it feels a lot of money in the present financial climate. Maybe next year ! Thank you so much for sharing this really helpful comparison.
I enjoy printing my own photos because I can maintain control the way my photos look. I use an epson 15000 model printer. Interestingly enough I get my best results on HP premium plus 80lb paper.
Definitely planning to print my work at home….I hope to pull the trigger this year, probably after my Alaskan Cruise with my wife 8/10 thru 8/20-2023 ….can’t wait to snap some great photos on this upcoming trip….
Adam, I would be thoroughly interested in a video covering mounting options. One thing that has kept me from going to a professional printer is I know I would be printing a lot, but couldn't afford to have those prints framed. It looks like the prints you have on your wall may be more economically mounted on craft board. I'm clueless on what mounting options exist.
I found many places sell precut mats for A3+, and mounting with linen hinge tape is fast and easy. Frames in those sizes are more challenging, but Nielsen-Bainbridge metal frames look nice and can be purchased online affordably.
Much more economically....BluTac!! Not recommended actually, many fell down. The big print behind me is mounted on a board and I think looks really contemporary for huge prints. I still think frames are great too although it does get more expensive. Got a video coming up about metal prints too.
You helped me make a decision. I've watched several reviews of this printer and wasn't sure if I should get the 200, 300, or 1000. As a beginner, I've made my decision. Thank you for this review.
Great video. Thank you for making it. I just got back into photography about 2 1/2 years ago and would go to my local camera store that has a printing lab to get any prints that I wanted done. I figured that I had spent a fair amount there and after a period of research and asking the people in the store, I had them order me a pro 1000. Yes it was expensive (and heavy) but it allows me to make my own prints to give to family and friends. It is probably the only printer that I will ever purchase and I am more than okay with that.
gracias por tu video, estoy tratando de elegir entre la pro200 y la pro300 , mi preocupación es si las tintas dye de la pro200 duran lo suficiente como para colgar mis impresos en la pared; sea tras un cristal o un laminado, agradecería su respuesta , Saludos
Interesting video Adam. I bought the Canon Pro 100s one year or so ago from your advice on one of your videos. It is a great printer for my needs and I would not change it. The C anon Studio Pro software is also great for setting up your print. Thanks Adam.
Great video, Adam. I finally pulled the trigger a few months back and dove in head first with the Pro-1000. I have my first gallery show going right now and to prepare for that I figured I'd spend more having everything done than buying the printer and supplies (even with the expense of a few hard earned lessons 😁😁😁) Like yourself, the experience has made me wish I'd done it sooner!
How are you finding it?? I have just ordered one today to use in my pet photography business! Should arrive in 2 weeks! Keen to know any thoughts or thing you wish you had known or learned when you got it!/
Really useful, as ever, Adam. Thanks for investing the time and money in doing this. I've been a very happy Pro-1000 user for a few years now, and don't regret it for the same core reason as youraself - wanting to print to A2.
Quick question about the pro1000 how do you go about printing 16x20? I been having to buy 17x22 inch paper then chopping it down.. is that the only way?
I am Canon R6 user. I had to stop using canon printers ... so many problems while using via wifi on MAC/PC. I gave a try Epson EcoTank. A3 and A3plus Ecotank printers are cheaper compared to canon, ink lasts forever, replacing it is easy and much cheaper. I am surprised, that anyone is using those replacable plastic casettes with chips - expensive with not enough ink. And with low price of A3 glossy photo paper you can print a lot and it is no brainer to use systems like EcoTank. Epson drivers have no problems so far for 2 years. Thanks for review, but with my experience, if you tried ecotank, you would never ever use canon again price / quality wise.
I’d always try and have a wired connection, although the prints in this video were made wirelessly. I’ve also previously printed directly from my iPad which is nice too.
Excellent video, well done. I'm not a landscape shooter and anymore now, I find myself photographing more with a 35mm film camera and printing favorites (if I have one that grabs me) on my Canon iX6820. I do stick with the 3:2 aspect ratio due to the 35mm film and I apply it in my digital cameras as well. Making 8X12 on 11X14 paper.
I've used a Pro 100 which does a fantastic job considering the perchase price. I need a Pro 1000. As to paper, I spent a lot of $ testing papeers, and I have settled on papers from Canson and Hahnemuhle. But that's me.
Thanks for this brilliant and informative video Adam. Earlier in the year I was trying to decide between the 300 and an Epson printer (I can't recall the model) but as with most things I was struggling to justify the cost and it got put on the back burner. Having seen your take on the 200 I now think this is the printer for me!
Its very interesting comparison, thanks for making this vid! Keith in one of his review compared gamut of 200 vs 300 and his measurements shows that due to the nature of the ink the 200 has wider gamut in warm tones, while 300 has wider gamut in cold tones. I was trying to figure out how this will affect an actual real world photo, and what you show exactly illustrates that - warmer colors are brighter and stand out, but there are less details in shadows on the 200. So cool!:)
Interesting video Adam. Canon had a cashback offer late last year so I went for the Pro300 as I felt it had the latest quality inks and I didn't have the room for the Pro1000. I quickly found it far better to print using the Canon Software than ON1 which I use for my normal editing. I also agree that A3+ has a significantly greater impact than A3. There is (well was in my case) a significant outlay initially in terms of inks and papers as even getting samples isn't the same as a larger print. I'm still learning what I like best for which images but really have enjoyed the 'journey' and really do agree that seeing your very own photo printed, framed and hung is soooo rewarding. I could probably use a lab and get prints 'cheaper' but the instant reward and being able to get quick feedback on your pocessing makes the extra cost worthwhile. Not tried pano printing yet!
@SteveP_2462, I have done some A3+ stuff too, the problem I find is frames. Without either become a master woodworker, like Adam seems to be doing, there isn't much choice around for framing A3+, except using an A2 frame and then you have a fairly significant border. Have you found any reasonably priced frames for A3+? cheers man.
Thank you. Just discovered you channel. Good stuff you teach. Also I'm getting the 200. Just getting started in printing and it's perfect. I wanted to ask you before I buy. I googled it a lot and searched for a long time to find the paper needed for Panoramic photos. The 13x39. That info is nowhere and nobody sells it. I'm sure there is a way to buy. Can you tell me?
I'm Upgrading from my Cannon ip8720 got it on sale for 435$US after tax. The color brightness was an issue for me on the 8720 I had to raise the exposure to get vivid images on matte paper and I heard when using the Pro 200 what you on screen is what is what basically prints out. I print posters for a hobby I do maybe 70-150 prints a year.
Good video! You noticed that with the *Pro-200 "the color and the contrast appear punchier."* To me, this is a huge benefit, and should consistently happen because the dye inks allow the reflectivity of the paper to to reflect the image into the room. Pigment inks block the paper's reflectivity, killing light transmission of the paper. So more reflective papers can help dye ink prints pop. Metal prints are dye based. Pigment ink prints only seem to look okay if brightly lit, and many aren't displayed that way, so can look dull. Keith Cooper has many videos on his channel showing the difference between these Canon printers, and reviews and has tips on the Epson printers too. He's impressed with dye prints. Sadly, neither Canon nor Epson make a dye ink printer bigger than 13". Keith has used different type of papers to see how they pop images with dye ink printers. Luster paper does well, but there are many options, including metallic paper, which can really be stunning, but may only work with some images, because it's not pure white. Epson's dye based EcoTank printers have lest costly ink, but are more expensive, and have less color gamut, and are said to not produce fine art prints as well as the Pro-200, which with the Pro-200 has state-of-the-art inks, and more of them. One reviewer of the Pro-200 said the cartridges may seem small, but that allows all eight of them to ride on the print head, simplifying the design and reducing problems. I hope Canon produces a larger dye ink printer, but in the meantime, the Pro-200 is inexpensive and very exciting! For the record, I have a 24-inch pigment 10-ink printer that I got tired of using, because prints don't pop like metal prints do, so I've been looking for an alternative, because I don't like the low gamut metal prints. So I'll be getting a Pro-200 soon, and just won't be able to make big prints for awhile; though, up to 1 meter wide pano prints are actually pretty large.
Yep, the dye inks are the best for bright colors. For me it is either the Canon Pro-200 or the Epson P900. If Canon updated the Pro-1000 (like Pro-1100) that would be under consideration. The Pro-1000 is just too old. The Pro-300 is just too expensive for inks and is limited in size, for it's price it is just not worth it and you are better off spending a bit more and getting the Epson P900. For more limited use, the Pro-200 can't be beat and would be the printer I recommend for most pro-consumers.
Adam, this topic is very interesting and a good comparison you made. I am also of the same opinion as you, the feeling of printing our own photographs is excellent and gives a true sense of mission accomplished, in this case, a photo accomplished. however, the problem is the cost and profitability taken in this process, because, in my case, I don't even know how to sell photos. I also believe that less and less people are interested in buying photos. The question of printing, of having a printer and following the whole process, depends on the profitability obtained with the purchase of a printer, which will always be expensive. If the volume of "sales" does not justify the purchase, I believe that we can always order the printing in a specialized house. In this case, we are subject to the final result and do not follow the process. This question is a dilemma!
A very informative comparison. I'm needing a new printer; my IPF6400 died. I found I printed very few 24" wide prints so I'm shopping for something smaller (17" wide) and cheaper. It looks like the printing software is better than what I used. I hope Canon supports MacOS better than in the past.
Well done video! I just started thinking about getting my own photo printer and I found this video extremely informative! I give it five thumbs up if there was an option and you definitely earned my subscribing!
I think I'm sold on a Pro 200 for my use case. How often do I need to be making prints in order to avoid nozzle clogging? Also, what is that paper cutter you use in the video?
It’s a Dahl. not sure of the model number although I think it’s discontinued last time I checked. there is a new version though. On the inks…….I don’t know exactly but just turning on at least once a month should avoid all problems.
I've been talking myself out of a Pro 1000 for two years or more now... Jeez can they discount them a little... not like its new tech anymore. Love your black and white !!
Another good video Adam. I purchased the 300 a few months back based on an earlier review by you and I'm very happy with it. It fit the right balance of size, cost, and quality, and if I really wanted a print larger than A3+, I 'll use a photo lab (since I've owned the printer, I haven't used one). Canon's Professional Print and Landscape is my preferred software and runs as a plugin in Photoshop too. It goes without saying that these printers are designed for printing photographs. If you need to do general printing as well, I suggest a low cost laser printer for that work. Lastly a question - what is the brand/model of the paper cutter you use and does it meet your needs?
Great video again Adam.I have been thinking about the P1000 for about a year now. Seen a number of discounts too. What plays it for me over the P300 is that you get about £400 of ink included in the P1000. My only concern is, its an old printer now and people have been talking about its replacement for some time. Not sure how it would be bettered though.
I guess it could be slightly lighter and smaller whilst still maintaining the A2 print size and quality. I struggle to see how it’s gonna make better prints though. maybe Canon will prove us wrong.
@@Firstmanphotography Just looked at canon online shop, they have their £150 Summer cashback on again for the P1000. If only my studio was built, that's the real reason I have been holding off. Thinking on what you say about it being lighter and a little smaller, if that reduces the actual build quality, I would live with it. Did you see Nigel Danson when he was talking about the next printer up from the 1000, maybe a 2000 or a 3000, they apparently don't deliver it, they come and install it. Now, that is scary for a printer. cheers man.
Not sure if my photo's are good enough? A canon printer may be in my future come winter! I can't keep up with my video's right now. They are stacking up, unreleased. My release schedule has been one a week. Once I started shooting video in 4k HQ with IS (mostly use the EF 24-70 f/2.8) which does not have IS, it was like WoW! Those 45mp files in photo mode take a lot more time editing. CR3 vs CR2. I'm more of a out-back kind of video maker who does video and stills. Thanks for recommendations, thinking Pro-300 ($850)
Still printing beautiful photos on my Canon PIXMA pro 9000 MK II . Unfortunately, no updated driver for the new Mac OS but I am still able to get high quality prints exactly the way I want (and sell) them. Getting the ink for the printer is something a bit of an issue but still doable.
Funny enough I was looking at Canon printers over the weekend and was stuck between the 300 and 1000. I usually go for the biggest best but in this case I am not entirely sure I could lift the 1000 out of its box.
Would you rather........start printing at home or get a new lens?📷
That's a great question, I'd go for the lens if it was a good L lens, and just use printing services. I recently got a photobook printed with shots from my holiday this year, best thing I've bought in ages. Prints do look amazing. So now I've talked myself into the printer over the lens. 😁
or a House or a Mercedes
Ha, how about a new camera. Shooting with the R5 now. Sold the 5D IV.
I've been printing for about a year, on your recommendation. It gave me a huge confidence boost, and helped me become a better photographer. Just last weekend I had my first photography sales, so I am happy about the changes printing brought for me.
Ha. Nice work!!
The look of sheer joy as you held up that panoramic print totally made my day.
Ha. Thanks
I got the Pro 300 2 weeks ago and it has been amazing! Printing with Canon Fine Art Smooth and the photos just look like handmade painting. Love it.
excellent video! thank you so much for the comparisons
I have printed my images for many years but only on a relative cheap A4 printer. About a year ago I bought the Pro-300 and its like a breath of fresh air, the prints are superb.
I currently print on the Pro 200 and am very pleased with it.
However, I want to print 17", so the Pro 1000 is on my wish list.
The $1300 SRP is daunting until you look at cost of ink for both.
A replacement set for the 200 costs $105 for the eight 16ml carts.
A set for the 1000 costs about $700 for 12 80ml carts. Subtracting the cost the ink from each, the net cost of the Pro200 is about $545 while the Pro1000 is $600.
Plus you may have to replace the ink in the Pro 200 five to six times to match expected life from the original set that came with the 1000. I am on my 6th box of Canon ink. So I, in effect, spent as much running a Pro200 as the original cost of a Pro1000.
Those savings might be mitigated somewhat by printing larger but my costs going to a lab from my A2 prints more than offset that marginal disadvantage.
Extremely insightful thank you
Including pricing was extremely helpful! I had watched videos about these printers which didn't bother, and I assumed prices in the several thousands! I never would have expected this! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks Adam,
I bought the PRO 300 because it suited my budget & available desk space. I’m as you said, blown away with it & admit to being guilty of not bringing my work to life by printing it out to ‘physically’ look at & feel it. Now after 8+ years as an amateur photographer, I’m kicking myself that I haven’t printed my work until very very recently. As soon as I got the first one off the printer, I was beaming like a Cheshire cat, & now I’m already getting enquiries & have made a couple of sales. Printing really does make a difference & brings your workflow to life & completes the journey. As you said here, I think it also changes your mindset when you are out in the field composing your images. Thanks for sharing, I’m a big fan of your work & your channel & subscribed ages ago. Keep on keeping on!
Best,
Nick
Thanks the kind words and well said re printing.
This is the first of your videos I fully understand I used to own a printing business. We predominantly printed large-format digital wallpaper, however, we started providing a lot of prints for painters who would have their paintings photographed and we would print them on Hahnemühle paper. Absolutely fantastic video for people who are new to printing their own work. 🖼
I've been saving up for the 300, but my husband watched your video recently and told me to order the 1000 instead as an anniversary present. Thanks for the great comparison between these printers. I enjoy your videos even though I'm primarily a Milky Way photographer.
I am saving for the 300 also but now I might show my husband your comment and the video heheh
I appreciate your thoughts and how you approach each printer, not like a pixel peeper but giving your thoughts for different levels of people getting into it and the minor trade offs if you call it that for each printer. Thanks, learned lots from this video.
Prior to the Canon Pro 200 i owned the Pixma Pro 9000 MKII, i used for many years and made countless prints that still look beautiful, for the most part i find the 11 x 17 inch prints stikes a good balance of size and cost to frame with out taking a lot of wall space. The few times that I want a print larger than 13 x 19 inches i have the print made by the company that makes my frames. I started printing my photos 15 years ago when I started digital photography, it was the best decision I have ever made. Sharing my work with family ,friends and co workers opened the door to event photography. I started photographing the Memorial day events where I worked and that led to photographing weddings and many other events , some thing I never dreamed I thought I would do when I started digital photography 15 years ago.
I just got the pro 300 and the 4100s for my store yesterday....Haven't printed anything yet but cannot wait to get started. Thanks for the video.
I have a Canon Pro-200. As a hobbiest, as well as selling a few prints this printer is fantastic for what I need. The prints are excellent and I love being able to print at home and control the results I get. Overall the ink costs are reasonable. I love being able to print 13x19” as well and large panoramas. If you’re in the market and don’t want to break the bank this is a great printer.
Totally agree!
What would you say is the cost in ink per print? I know this can vary but say for printing my favourite artwork?
@@Mrbeads I think it would be about $4 to $5 for a 13x19 print. A full package of all the ink cartridges costs about $120 and I can get about 20 or so prints out of that. Of course some inks are used faster than others so this is a very rough estimate.
@@rattlhed1 Thank you very much! 👍
Your missing out! Get the 1000
Great video. I went with the Pro-300 last year and love it. One really nice feature with the Canon Professional Print & Layout software is printing a test pattern print, so you can see which brightness and contrast settings give you the best print.
I had decided on the Canon Pro 300 in advance and your review confirmed it. The Pro 300 will move in.
Nice!!
I went for the Pro 300 and have been very happy with the results and have sold some prints too. Thank you for a great video 🙏
I enjoyed the video Adam. I went for the Pro 300 a couple of months ago and very pleased with the quality of the prints it produces. I print mainly in Black and White.For which the Pro 300 is first class. I bought a load of paper test packs to find a paper that I like. The paper choice definitely has an impact on the finished print which is not to be underestimated. I personally went for fotospeed papers With NST bright white being one of my favourites.
You’re right, paper makes a big difference and everyone seems to develop their personal favourites. I use a mixture of Canson and Canon papers at the moment.
Black & white is where I’m heading, I also use fotospeed and am tempted by the 300.
Great video! I recently switched from Epson to Canon printing and absolutely love the quality my Pro-300 offers.
Great to hear!
How timely! I'm just about to order a Pro-1000. I am putting together an exhibition of 80 A2 prints and realized that there'd never be a better time to get off the mail-order-print train than now. It should pay for itself with this project alone and hopefully for years to come. I am a bit worried that the Pro-1100 will come out in a month, but I just have to remind myself that, like an older camera, a new release doesn't mean that the older model isn't still great at its job.
I've had my pro1000 for 6 years. Best investment ever. I bought 3 more! They are costly to keep up with at times but we'll worth it in quality
I'd already decided that the Pro-300 was probably the one for me and this review has helped to confirm that. Less saturated on glossy paper and truer colours for b+w is what I like. Thanks. The difference in initial purchase price will soon seem negligible compared to paper and ink costs.
I have the Pro 300 for just over 2 years. You can’t go wrong, brilliant printer! I don’t use it that regularly, but if I don’t print for 2-4 weeks I just run a print pattern cycle and it’s still working like new!
Hello, Mr. Mike. I just got PRO-300 and very happy with the quality of prints. However, even when the printer is not printing, if I give it a little bit of nudge, as it shakes ever so slightly, it makes a "ta-ta-ta-ta-..." noise on the right side of the printer. Is this normal? Please let me know. Thank you.
@13:00 I've been working on the layout of three books for the past few years and just got physical samples printed and it was such a great feeling to hold them in my hands 😍 EDIT: after watching the whole video, I think I'd go for the Pro 200.
I bought the Pro-200 some years ago, and I'm very happy with it. The Pro-300 was very tempting but a little out of my budget at the time.
It really is a great printer.
Hi John, potentially silly question but how do you find the 200 for printing documents (mainly black ink only)? I have a small Canon Pixma printer which seems to be very economical when doing such printing. I'd love to have something that I could print A3 photos from though.
@@garethmcfarland7244 it's fine for document printing as well as photos. But you might also want to try the PIXMA iX6820. It also prints up to A3+, takes five cartridges, and costs $179. I had that printer before the Pro 200. If you're mainly going to print documents with just the occasional photo, the iX6820 might be the way to go.
I got the pro200 about 12 months ago and ive only just started to figure out how to edit my photos appropriately for printing. definitely a learning curve
No doubt. Fun though.
Yes, experiment with the different settings in Canon Pro Print and Layout, especially for Black & White. Also for B&W some papers perform much better on the Pro-200. I have found the Canon Pro Semi-Gloss SG-201 to be a great all-rounder for general use. B&W matte papers can vary greatly
I bought the Pro 200 today despite the fact that the Pro 300 is *heavily* discounted in my country now (less than GBP100 between the two). I decided to spend the difference on some Ilford paper instead. The first print to come out of it on A3+ was fantastic, and I can't wait to do more.
I have the Pro 200 as it was in my price range and I am not disappointed. It produces some stunning images on Gloss paper ( Permajet Gloss ).. I would highly recommend it
If on a budget..
It’s a really fantastic printer, there is no doubt about that.
A video comparing photo monitor would be a great accompaniment to this.
Went with the Canon pro 200 to start offering some light photo print options for my clients! Thanks for this comparison!
Great video Adam , all these printers all fantastic…… I’m still printing very happily with my Pro 100s for 5yrs and has never failed to reproduce beautiful prints, Keep up the great work.
That's awesome hear. Sure it will be the same for all these too. Happy printing.
I also use the Pro 100s but had lots of issues with it printing with a magenta cast when using Lightroom Classic paper profiles. It was ok when using managed by printer. I asked Canon what was going on and they said it’s a software clash and suggested I used the Canon print app. I downloaded the app and Have had no problems since using this.
@@johnharvey1786 great info, thanks I have been having issues with my Pro 100 recently.. hopefully this shoild fix it
Thanks Adam I have finally made my choice for a printer. The Pro 300 fits my budget and footprint.
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Thanks for this video. This one made me pull the trigger to “go pro”. I have been on the fence a long time as I’m a hobbiest, however knowing myself, I will spend the hours to master the craft. My ROI is not financial but in order to improve my skills! The reason to go for the Pro 200 is because it seems to have the lowest running cost, and because of space constraints
Great review pointers been thinking about printing prints at home for a while pro-200 might be the ticket.
Pro 1000 is incredible
Many many thank yous for making this comparison. That point about the 200 being a solid choice for a first time pro photo printer has me sold on it.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Adam. Cracking video ! I'm still using my Canon Pro-10s after six years and it's still going strong. I always use Canon Lucia inks and the print quality is unbeatable, especially on Fotospeed papers. I sell a few prints per month, mainly A4 with some A3 as well and I can honestly say the cost of ink is reasonable, especially if I shop around. After watching your video I'd love to invest in the Pro-1000 and offer my clients A2 size prints but it feels a lot of money in the present financial climate. Maybe next year ! Thank you so much for sharing this really helpful comparison.
If you were to compare with the PRO 100, it would be interesting as I think many people have the older model Pro 100 and are thinking about changing
I enjoy printing my own photos because I can maintain control the way my photos look. I use an epson 15000 model printer. Interestingly enough I get my best results on HP premium plus 80lb paper.
Nice video thanks! Curious to know what 3 papers were used for these test prints and comparison?
Definitely planning to print my work at home….I hope to pull the trigger this year, probably after my Alaskan Cruise with my wife 8/10 thru 8/20-2023 ….can’t wait to snap some great photos on this upcoming trip….
Have fun!
Really enjoyed this video, I'm still using the Canon Pro10s had it around 4 years now, would love to jump upto the Pro 1000 at some stage 👍🏻
I'm more than happy with my Pro-1000, and if you shop around you can very often pick one up for less than £1000.
Adam, I would be thoroughly interested in a video covering mounting options. One thing that has kept me from going to a professional printer is I know I would be printing a lot, but couldn't afford to have those prints framed. It looks like the prints you have on your wall may be more economically mounted on craft board. I'm clueless on what mounting options exist.
I found many places sell precut mats for A3+, and mounting with linen hinge tape is fast and easy. Frames in those sizes are more challenging, but Nielsen-Bainbridge metal frames look nice and can be purchased online affordably.
Much more economically....BluTac!! Not recommended actually, many fell down. The big print behind me is mounted on a board and I think looks really contemporary for huge prints. I still think frames are great too although it does get more expensive. Got a video coming up about metal prints too.
You helped me make a decision. I've watched several reviews of this printer and wasn't sure if I should get the 200, 300, or 1000. As a beginner, I've made my decision. Thank you for this review.
Which is ?
Great video. Thank you for making it. I just got back into photography about 2 1/2 years ago and would go to my local camera store that has a printing lab to get any prints that I wanted done. I figured that I had spent a fair amount there and after a period of research and asking the people in the store, I had them order me a pro 1000. Yes it was expensive (and heavy) but it allows me to make my own prints to give to family and friends. It is probably the only printer that I will ever purchase and I am more than okay with that.
Something extremely special is going to have to come along for me to replace my pro-1000.
gracias por tu video, estoy tratando de elegir entre la pro200 y la pro300 , mi preocupación es si las tintas dye de la pro200 duran lo suficiente como para colgar mis impresos en la pared; sea tras un cristal o un laminado, agradecería su respuesta , Saludos
Interesting video Adam. I bought the Canon Pro 100s one year or so ago from your advice on one of your videos. It is a great printer for my needs and I would not change it. The C anon Studio Pro software is also great for setting up your print. Thanks Adam.
Great video, Adam. I finally pulled the trigger a few months back and dove in head first with the Pro-1000. I have my first gallery show going right now and to prepare for that I figured I'd spend more having everything done than buying the printer and supplies (even with the expense of a few hard earned lessons 😁😁😁) Like yourself, the experience has made me wish I'd done it sooner!
Awesome to hear.
How are you finding it?? I have just ordered one today to use in my pet photography business! Should arrive in 2 weeks! Keen to know any thoughts or thing you wish you had known or learned when you got it!/
You're a great guy and I'd gladly grab a pint with ya! Thanks for the great review.
I love your reviews, they are awesome. I am very curious about lighting systems for outdoor photo/videography as well as indoor photo/videography.
Glad you like them!
Still rocking my pro 100.
This is great, thank you needed to hear info on costs etc before i buy!
Really useful, as ever, Adam. Thanks for investing the time and money in doing this. I've been a very happy Pro-1000 user for a few years now, and don't regret it for the same core reason as youraself - wanting to print to A2.
It really is a beautiful size print.
Quick question about the pro1000 how do you go about printing 16x20? I been having to buy 17x22 inch paper then chopping it down.. is that the only way?
At 9:01 you can clearly see that the pro 200 is actually the very best. It is the only one that shows the cloud in the upper left corner 😉
Many and many thanks to post this video! It helps me a lot deciding what model to choose.
Glad I could help!
Great video! Love the shot at 7:00, would you mind sharing what shutter speed you were using for that shot?
Hi Adam! I greatly appreciate this video as I am hoping to start selling my prints. Fantastic content. Thanks so much.
Hi Beth. That's fantastic to hear. Hope sales go well.
hi Adam,
I'm very interested in buying the 1000.
my only concern is its age...it came out 7 years ago.
do you think a new version is coming soon ?
I am Canon R6 user. I had to stop using canon printers ... so many problems while using via wifi on MAC/PC. I gave a try Epson EcoTank. A3 and A3plus Ecotank printers are cheaper compared to canon, ink lasts forever, replacing it is easy and much cheaper. I am surprised, that anyone is using those replacable plastic casettes with chips - expensive with not enough ink. And with low price of A3 glossy photo paper you can print a lot and it is no brainer to use systems like EcoTank. Epson drivers have no problems so far for 2 years. Thanks for review, but with my experience, if you tried ecotank, you would never ever use canon again price / quality wise.
I’d always try and have a wired connection, although the prints in this video were made wirelessly. I’ve also previously printed directly from my iPad which is nice too.
Excellent video, well done. I'm not a landscape shooter and anymore now, I find myself photographing more with a 35mm film camera and printing favorites (if I have one that grabs me) on my Canon iX6820. I do stick with the 3:2 aspect ratio due to the 35mm film and I apply it in my digital cameras as well. Making 8X12 on 11X14 paper.
Thanks Chuck. Appreciate you watching and commenting.
Awesome video and extremely helpful
I've used a Pro 100 which does a fantastic job considering the perchase price. I need a Pro 1000. As to paper, I spent a lot of $ testing papeers, and I have settled on papers from Canson and Hahnemuhle. But that's me.
Thats a great place to settle
Thanks for this brilliant and informative video Adam. Earlier in the year I was trying to decide between the 300 and an Epson printer (I can't recall the model) but as with most things I was struggling to justify the cost and it got put on the back burner. Having seen your take on the 200 I now think this is the printer for me!
Glad it was helpful!
I got my pro 1000 second hand on fb marketplace for £350, it was an absolute steal! ❤
Its very interesting comparison, thanks for making this vid! Keith in one of his review compared gamut of 200 vs 300 and his measurements shows that due to the nature of the ink the 200 has wider gamut in warm tones, while 300 has wider gamut in cold tones. I was trying to figure out how this will affect an actual real world photo, and what you show exactly illustrates that - warmer colors are brighter and stand out, but there are less details in shadows on the 200. So cool!:)
Always enjoy his videos - entertaining and educational. Thanks for what you do.
Thanks so much. Appreciate it.
excelente vídeo, felicitaciones !!! .. me ayudo muchísimo en mi proceso de elección (muy hermosa luz en tu estudio......) ....
Thank you for this comparison. Exactly what I needed and delivered in your usual down to earth style. Please don't ever give up doing this.
I've been waiting for a comparison between these! Thanks!
Glad to help. I am here to serve.
Super well done, First Man ! 😊
Interesting video Adam. Canon had a cashback offer late last year so I went for the Pro300 as I felt it had the latest quality inks and I didn't have the room for the Pro1000. I quickly found it far better to print using the Canon Software than ON1 which I use for my normal editing. I also agree that A3+ has a significantly greater impact than A3. There is (well was in my case) a significant outlay initially in terms of inks and papers as even getting samples isn't the same as a larger print. I'm still learning what I like best for which images but really have enjoyed the 'journey' and really do agree that seeing your very own photo printed, framed and hung is soooo rewarding. I could probably use a lab and get prints 'cheaper' but the instant reward and being able to get quick feedback on your pocessing makes the extra cost worthwhile. Not tried pano printing yet!
@SteveP_2462, I have done some A3+ stuff too, the problem I find is frames. Without either become a master woodworker, like Adam seems to be doing, there isn't much choice around for framing A3+, except using an A2 frame and then you have a fairly significant border. Have you found any reasonably priced frames for A3+? cheers man.
Excellent video! 👍🏻 now I have to figure out What to buy 😂
Really interesting video & very helpful to those of us thinking of buying our first printer. Keep up the good work.
Amazing review!!!
@FirstManPhotography
Why is the cloud gone at top left corner? Pro 200 made it and the other not???
Its at 9:15
It's not a cloud. It's reflection from the video light. One of the challenges of showing prints on a video.
Thank you. Just discovered you channel. Good stuff you teach. Also I'm getting the 200. Just getting started in printing and it's perfect. I wanted to ask you before I buy. I googled it a lot and searched for a long time to find the paper needed for Panoramic photos. The 13x39. That info is nowhere and nobody sells it. I'm sure there is a way to buy. Can you tell me?
I'm Upgrading from my Cannon ip8720 got it on sale for 435$US after tax. The color brightness was an issue for me on the 8720 I had to raise the exposure to get vivid images on matte paper and I heard when using the Pro 200 what you on screen is what is what basically prints out. I print posters for a hobby I do maybe 70-150 prints a year.
Good video! You noticed that with the *Pro-200 "the color and the contrast appear punchier."* To me, this is a huge benefit, and should consistently happen because the dye inks allow the reflectivity of the paper to to reflect the image into the room. Pigment inks block the paper's reflectivity, killing light transmission of the paper. So more reflective papers can help dye ink prints pop. Metal prints are dye based.
Pigment ink prints only seem to look okay if brightly lit, and many aren't displayed that way, so can look dull.
Keith Cooper has many videos on his channel showing the difference between these Canon printers, and reviews and has tips on the Epson printers too. He's impressed with dye prints. Sadly, neither Canon nor Epson make a dye ink printer bigger than 13".
Keith has used different type of papers to see how they pop images with dye ink printers. Luster paper does well, but there are many options, including metallic paper, which can really be stunning, but may only work with some images, because it's not pure white.
Epson's dye based EcoTank printers have lest costly ink, but are more expensive, and have less color gamut, and are said to not produce fine art prints as well as the Pro-200, which with the Pro-200 has state-of-the-art inks, and more of them.
One reviewer of the Pro-200 said the cartridges may seem small, but that allows all eight of them to ride on the print head, simplifying the design and reducing problems.
I hope Canon produces a larger dye ink printer, but in the meantime, the Pro-200 is inexpensive and very exciting!
For the record, I have a 24-inch pigment 10-ink printer that I got tired of using, because prints don't pop like metal prints do, so I've been looking for an alternative, because I don't like the low gamut metal prints. So I'll be getting a Pro-200 soon, and just won't be able to make big prints for awhile; though, up to 1 meter wide pano prints are actually pretty large.
Very interesting. Thanks.
Yep, the dye inks are the best for bright colors. For me it is either the Canon Pro-200 or the Epson P900. If Canon updated the Pro-1000 (like Pro-1100) that would be under consideration. The Pro-1000 is just too old. The Pro-300 is just too expensive for inks and is limited in size, for it's price it is just not worth it and you are better off spending a bit more and getting the Epson P900. For more limited use, the Pro-200 can't be beat and would be the printer I recommend for most pro-consumers.
@@nafnaf0 Of those you mention, I think only the Pro-200 has dye inks.
Adam, this topic is very interesting and a good comparison you made. I am also of the same opinion as you, the feeling of printing our own photographs is excellent and gives a true sense of mission accomplished, in this case, a photo accomplished. however, the problem is the cost and profitability taken in this process, because, in my case, I don't even know how to sell photos. I also believe that less and less people are interested in buying photos. The question of printing, of having a printer and following the whole process, depends on the profitability obtained with the purchase of a printer, which will always be expensive. If the volume of "sales" does not justify the purchase, I believe that we can always order the printing in a specialized house. In this case, we are subject to the final result and do not follow the process. This question is a dilemma!
A very informative comparison. I'm needing a new printer; my IPF6400 died. I found I printed very few 24" wide prints so I'm shopping for something smaller (17" wide) and cheaper. It looks like the printing software is better than what I used. I hope Canon supports MacOS better than in the past.
Well done video! I just started thinking about getting my own photo printer and I found this video extremely informative! I give it five thumbs up if there was an option and you definitely earned my subscribing!
Extremely helpful video -- thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Really, a very inspiring video. Thank you!
My pleasure!
I think I'm sold on a Pro 200 for my use case. How often do I need to be making prints in order to avoid nozzle clogging? Also, what is that paper cutter you use in the video?
It’s a Dahl. not sure of the model number although I think it’s discontinued last time I checked. there is a new version though.
On the inks…….I don’t know exactly but just turning on at least once a month should avoid all problems.
Great comparison of three good Canon printers. One question I have for you is if you varnish your photographs printed on the PRO 1000 when you mount?
Great video, information, and test. Thank you!
I've been talking myself out of a Pro 1000 for two years or more now... Jeez can they discount them a little... not like its new tech anymore. Love your black and white !!
Thanks Robert. I'll have a word for ya...😉
Great job Mate, love your video's
Thanks 👍
Great video, very helpful. Thanks
Another good video Adam. I purchased the 300 a few months back based on an earlier review by you and I'm very happy with it. It fit the right balance of size, cost, and quality, and if I really wanted a print larger than A3+, I 'll use a photo lab (since I've owned the printer, I haven't used one). Canon's Professional Print and Landscape is my preferred software and runs as a plugin in Photoshop too. It goes without saying that these printers are designed for printing photographs. If you need to do general printing as well, I suggest a low cost laser printer for that work. Lastly a question - what is the brand/model of the paper cutter you use and does it meet your needs?
I use a Dahl cutter
I have a Canon Pro 300 printer. I would love if you do a TH-cam video on how the print panorama.
Great vid. Thanks. Super helpful.
I am really interested in your trimmer. Can you tell us what brand that is?
Thanks!
It's the Dahle 960mm
Awesomeness! Thanks@@Firstmanphotography
I'm using ~ Smugmug ... At the moment. For prints etc etc ... But yes, would be nice to do the printing myself and sell direct.
Great video again Adam.I have been thinking about the P1000 for about a year now. Seen a number of discounts too. What plays it for me over the P300 is that you get about £400 of ink included in the P1000. My only concern is, its an old printer now and people have been talking about its replacement for some time. Not sure how it would be bettered though.
I guess it could be slightly lighter and smaller whilst still maintaining the A2 print size and quality. I struggle to see how it’s gonna make better prints though. maybe Canon will prove us wrong.
@@Firstmanphotography Just looked at canon online shop, they have their £150 Summer cashback on again for the P1000. If only my studio was built, that's the real reason I have been holding off. Thinking on what you say about it being lighter and a little smaller, if that reduces the actual build quality, I would live with it. Did you see Nigel Danson when he was talking about the next printer up from the 1000, maybe a 2000 or a 3000, they apparently don't deliver it, they come and install it. Now, that is scary for a printer. cheers man.
I know the 1000 pro has a vacuum system for the paper. Has it the 300 pro too?
very cool, thank you for the video :) useful!
Not sure if my photo's are good enough? A canon printer may be in my future come winter! I can't keep up with my video's right now. They are stacking up, unreleased. My release schedule has been one a week. Once I started shooting video in 4k HQ with IS (mostly use the EF 24-70 f/2.8) which does not have IS, it was like WoW! Those 45mp files in photo mode take a lot more time editing. CR3 vs CR2. I'm more of a out-back kind of video maker who does video and stills. Thanks for recommendations, thinking Pro-300 ($850)
Ha. I wish I had that problem. I can never seem to get ahead with my videos.
Interesting. I stopped printing photos years ago, so haven't kept up with the latest printer tech. Outside of Canon, what are the competitors like?
No idea. I'd imagine they're not terrible. But these are great!! 😉
Still printing beautiful photos on my Canon PIXMA pro 9000 MK II . Unfortunately, no updated driver for the new Mac OS but I am still able to get high quality prints exactly the way I want (and sell) them. Getting the ink for the printer is something a bit of an issue but still doable.
Funny enough I was looking at Canon printers over the weekend and was stuck between the 300 and 1000. I usually go for the biggest best but in this case I am not entirely sure I could lift the 1000 out of its box.
It’s definitely a two person job if you were being sensible.
Great video thank you so much for making this!!