So glad you mentioned the Midwest. Most reviews never consider that type of trails that we have here. Our trails are located mostly in dense woods and have punchy climbs with tight twisty switchbacks. We don't necessarily require slack geometry here.
Perfect timing on this video. Just got my DV9 yesterday, did a quick test ride, and can't wait for the weekend. Purchased it thanks to some glowing reviews online and your wife's recommendation as well. Your review is icing on the cake. A hardtail that will allow me to get back into racing yet fun with my wife and kids on flowing trails. I'm stoked. By the way, I had no idea how gorgeous Sedona looks. Need to plan a trip out there for some riding. Cheers!
I own a dv9 and I'd say your review is spot on. This is a great bike for people who want to learn the fundamentals of trail riding. It's forgiving due to the lightweight and sturdy enough so it doesnt feel like it's going to snap when the trail gets gnarly. Also 2.6 inch tires are nice for those really chunky trails.
CORRECTION: There are two errors in this video (sorry, I get my numbers mixed up from time to time, especially without the charts in front of me). It's got a 120mm fork, not a 130mm fork. And it doesn't have a very short chainstay (439mm). But it feels shorter than the numbers suggest.
I’ve been riding a medium DV9 for almost a year around northern CA.. it’s made me a climbing champ, even with flat pedals. Super fun at high speed. I’m 5’9” probably should have got a large for some extra reach.. great wheels and with 2.5/2.6 tires really help soak up the trail.
Awesome. I think that'd be the perfect norcal bike. I'd love to try it with 2.6s sometime, but my wife really likes the lighter 2.35s (which actually measure quite wide on these rims).
About the OneUp dropper. As a short rider, I'm stuck with them. They have the shortest insertion length in the biz and my Evils can only fit a 125mm otherwise. My V2 had problems sticking, but can be solved by adding air and a little light grease under the collar. They just came out with the V2.1 and say those issues have been resolved. So far, it's been butter. I'll let you know if it ends up having issues after some more time on it
Good review Steve, I agree with your overall assessment. Mine is set up with a 130 Pike and 2.6/2.5 tires which up the capability a notch in the rough stuff. Really fun bike. I recently picked up a Fuse 2020 frame and built it up pretty nice - it’s surprisingly more compliant than the DV9 even though it’s Al - great to have both in the stable.
Loved the review, Steve. Looking forward to the new format and can't wait to see you review a bigger range of HTs. I hope companies have taken notice of your channel and lend you some demos! So many awesome hardtails out there.
Thanks Brandon. I hope I can keep the demo bikes coming. I'm willing to bet 99% of the bike companies out there don't know I exist. But I'll keep reaching out regardless.
Thor! Was surprised to see your cameo appearance! We came from Michigan and stayed at your place back in May. Had a great stay. Thinking about going back to a hard tail like this bike as a future purchase.
Thanks for finally reviewing this bike! Asked for a review on it a couple of moths ago as I was thinking about buying a dv9. Got a great deal on a trek fuel ex 9.7 so went with a ful susp even though I wanted a hardtail, but still very happy about it ;)
Another great review, really like your channel, keep up the good work. I have an Enduro full-sus and am looking around for something more trail/XC to fill the gap. Something similar to the DV9 I guess? Around 11kgs. Have you reviewed anymore bikes like this? I know you look more at aggressive hardtails. Cheers
Love the bike review but really interested in those trails you had it on! Was in Sedona in December (my wife and I rode with you for a bit on Mescal and Chuckwagon) but don't remember seeing Teacup. Love the channel!
Definitely want to see a review after you put that head tube angle set in I didn't even know they made that so you can change your head tube angle with it huh I'm going to have to look into that
My Zocalo was speced w/ a 120mm Revelation, i put a 130mm Pike and it didnt change the head angle too much, a -.5 slacker (i moved my seat up on the rails so as not to lose my ST angle)... but i would have no problem smashing most Sedona blues and blacks on it (thats what a good design can do)....
As an Ibis DV9 owner, I am completely happy with my Large 11 speed build. My LBS had the DV9 and a Salsa Timberjack when I went in to purchase a bike. Rode both of them and felt the best on the DV9. I'm coming from a full ridged Surly ECR. Just my thoughts. This review is spot on, always giving us good reviews.
funny Thor is your buddy, met him coming out of the creek bed from former Western Civ up to Girdner one day last year when i was wondering what direction i should go bc i had been out there for 3hrs....good dude...they run a nice hotel near sooooo many of those trails you are on today. #sedonarules (after the festival is over 😁)
Great review. I'm in the market for a hardtail went from initially considering a Trek Stache to this IBIS DV9. I"m 5'8" with a 30" inseam. IBIS sizing has me between a Med and Large? I know this is your wife's bike, but curious if you have a recommendation for me as far as sizing. Thanks and it Keep Rollin. Hardtail Party @ Park City one day maybe??
Hi Steve, Thanks for great review! Since you have reviewed both the Ibis DV9 and the Marin Pine Mountain I would like to ask you which one would you choose as a bikepacking bike for long days in the saddle? Based on the comfort as the main parameter. Thanks!
I would choose the aluminum chameleon for bikepacking. The dv9 and pine MTN couldn't be more different. I'd never choose a carbon bike for my bikepacking bike. The frame bags and straps rub the frame too much.
Great review on the DV-9 Ibis. Steve, What is your inseam measurement? I believe we are built quite alike. Mine is 27.5", I'm just concerned on the standover height. I think I could ride a small or a medium. I ride mostly gravel trails, and do about 16 miles a day, but would like to do more. Thanks Barry
Just got my dv9 frame the other day to compliment my HD4 Enduro smasher. What fork do you recommend for my dv9? I'm 185lbs and pretty agressive. I did buy the dv9 primarily for xc/trail riding here in wa state. Thanks!
I'm REALLy interested in getting my hands on a DV9. There's, unfortunately, no way to demo a bike since I can't find one anywhere near my home. I'm currently riding a rigid fork Stache, medium, and comfortable. I've seen guys talking about needing to upsize on a DV9. Opinions?
Glad to hear it. This one has been nothing but problems. The design is awful. It requires the housing to move, rather than the inner cable. So if your frame routing doesn't allow the housing to move (like in this case), the dropper won't stay up with weight in it. It's been an example of one place that saving a buck doesn't pay off for us.
Gotcha, I am 68 years old and I would like my last bike to be a nice ride. My problem is, there is not an Ibis dealer within 850 miles of where I live. So my chances of trying one out is next to nothing. So all that I can do is take people that ride them for what they claim. What would the chance be, that I could get you to check out Ibis to see if they might have a build that would fit me.I would be indebted to you and your wife for the remainder of my life. I follow you folks on Dusty Betty all the time. Please consider helping me out, Oh I just want to ride Gravel track. Thank you Barry
Awesome video, I've probably watched 10 times debating on the DV9! I'm at 5'8" and some change and only concerned with the short reach on the medium. That being said, I plan to run a 100mm fork which lengthens that a tad and going to likely run a 40-50 stem. Do you think a guy would be fine on a medium?
@@hardtailparty if the frames rides like the dv9 I am super stoked, but if it's like the carbon chameleon not so much....fingers crossed. Love your reviews so far.
Ok, I’m a new subscriber to your channel Nd I also dabble in TH-cam. Can you help me? I’m a long time XC racer. My local shop that my team races through recommended the DV9. I was spectacle and still am. I have a worn XX1 cassette on a new chain right now so you can imagine my frustration of powering out of the corners so, I’m not full on power right now. Specked a SID Ultimate SL 44mm offset, Bontrager Kovee Pro 30 wheel set. Raced Trek, Specialized, Salsa, Niner and others. I was SS for years, even in AZ and CO rigid all the way. My favorite geometry was Niners SS with their carbon fork. How can I make this DV9 like that?
Just bought this frame. Trying to figure out if I should go 44mm offset on the fork or the suggested 51mm...anyone out there have any experience with this bike?
Sounds like the complete opposite of my hardtail (Giant Talon), the Talon loses momentum badly on tech climbs and rock gardens in general, and is absolutely lifeless when you try to pump it or push it into a berm, and spends most of its time on chunky sections bottoming out the fork (its stock fork is a craptastic Suntour), I suspect the frame is simply too stiff. When I got my Trance it was like night and day, especially given the Trance's reputation for being quite poppy and playful. I still want an aggressive hardtail down the road for a second bike.
Hey, is there any you would do a review on the trek stache 7? If not it’s cool. I’ve never seen a solid review on it. & I wanna see how far that bike can be pushed.
I'd like to review one. I don't think trek is interested in sending me one but I'll see. That bike can handle a lot of challenging terrain, but not at fast speeds. I do love the stache, I just don't feel like they can handle rough riding. I'd love a 65* hta stache.
The reach seems so short. My 5 year old bike (L) has 450 mm and seems short. This in large is 422 mm. Meanwhile the seat tube is still quite long too. Could only run a 150 mm dropper.
Great review as always. Always kinda wanted one of those. I had a chameleon and agree about all your comments regarding it. I have been on a Diamondback Sync'r Carbon for quite awhile. It could be the best bike for having most all the positive attributes of both. Carbon frame, slacker head angle and can run both 29 x 2.6 to 27.5 x 3.0. I have been loving it as my do-it-all bike. How about a test?
@@robbieflatt9736 possibly. I remember the chainstay feeling pretty long and the head angle not feeling as slack as the geo charts suggested. Maybe I'll see if I can get one in for review.
Extremely different riding feel, they're not really in the same category except that they're both hardtails. The sergeant feels more like a Jeep. The DV9 feels like a Lotus. The sergeant is extremely versatile, and fun at long days in the saddle and exploring. The DV9 is zippy and quick and wants to see just how fast you can ride every flat and uphill section there is. The DV9 is a more exciting, energetic ride. Both are great bikes, it just depends on what feel you want. The Sergeant has pretty long chainstays, which makes carrying loads great, and makes for a super planted feel. The sergeant feels more durable and solid. The ibis begs you to pedal faster and faster. It's an incredible climber. The ibis is not nearly as versatile as the sergeant, regarding what wheel/tire setups you can run, but for its intended purpose it's way better at xc flowy trails.
@@hardtailparty That's awesome! Jeep vs Lotus really puts it into perspective for me. Thank you for the time and quality put into your responses and content.
@@mellissanash7517 you're welcome to experiment. I don't have enough rim and tire combos to experiment with this fork. Fox lists 29x2.6 as max, but who knows. The one thing you don't want is the fork to bottom and have the tire contact the crown on bottom out. That will jam the front wheels and pitch you over the bars at the worst possible time.
Any idea how this would compare to the Santa Cruz highball ? I think the head tube is slightly slacker and chainstays longer. Is this a dirt worthy hardtail
The highball is way more XC. It would have been extremely scary on this trail. The head angle on the highball is much much steeper. The DV9 is a better bike for all-around trail riding.
With advances in material science they could engineer the proper flex and rebound damping into the frame. They also have to have a couple of different flexes in each size depending on rider weight. I think we may see this in the future. Thanks for the great videos!!!!
The trek Marlin is a great starter bike but it's not really my cup of tea as it doesn't suit the trials where I ride. Unfortunately it also has qr axles.
This looks like a great bike for the rolling single track we have around here Maryland. Just this afternoon I called the only dealer anywhere near me, and they are not close, and they said they don’t carry it and have no plans to. And like every other bike dealer he started telling me how I should really be looking at fs. I’m coming off a 2005 Felt RXC that I’ve ridden everywhere. I recently demoed a fs and it felt like I was driving a truck through the woods. Why is everyone pushing fs so hard.? I can’t even find hard tail bikes to demo.
Online retailers like fanatik and Jensen have them, but that doesn't help you test ride one. I wonder if you could find someone local on mtbr who would let you throw a leg over it.
Yeah. I’m keeping my eyes out for one but hard tails around here are getting to be harder and harder to find and most that I see are older bikes like mine. A used Chamelion just popped up for sale near by. I just watched your review from a few years ago. We do have local Santa Cruz dealers but none of them carry the Chameleon. How would you compare the Chameleon to the DV9.
@@chesapeakeaerialphotollc5954 i compare the dv9 to the chameleon a couple times in this video. The dv9 is so new it'll be hard to find a used one. You can try pinkbike or mtbr classifieds.
@@hardtailparty I just rewatched the video after making that comment and see that you do compare the two. The DV9 just looks like such a fun bike and probably more my style. Don't have much hope of finding a used one--especially around here. Thank for the feedback. Enjoy your videos.
New video idea? How to make your hardtail softer on the trails. I got my a** kicked today on my hardtail. Need ideas on how to make it more comfortable?
That's definitely a video I've got in the works. Quick tips: run tubeless, run wide tires, run lower tire pressure, learn to absorb impacts with your legs (getting light on the bike), slow down, and read the trail and pick perfect lines. There's a reason they say riding a Hardtail makes you a better rider. Where do you live and which hardtail do you ride?
hardtail party thank you soooo much for the ideas. I tried to do a TH-cam search and nothing came up. With all your hardtail experience I figured you are definitely the guy to ask. It’s only fitting you nail a video on it before someone els lol anyways great videos keep them coming!
sorry didn't read your full comment. I live in Yakima WA. I was riding Rocky Top, Yes very rocky lol . It dry desert land out in Eastern WA. The other side of the state is gorgeous with some of the best trails in the Pacific North west. Then I am about two hours from Hood River Oregon where they have amazing trails up in the forest. I get to ride lots of different types of trails. But at home its dry sharp rocks and powder fine dust/dirt.
@@hardtailparty hardtail party I sold all my MTB stuff about two years ago. So I went down to the local bike shop and spent a lot to regain all my gear again and so that forced me to pick up a 2020 Marlin 5. do to budget reasons. So for this year that's what I will be riding till I can pick up a Santa Cruz hardtail next year or something along those lines. Never had a hardtail beat me up as much as this one has done. So at the moment its fully stock other then peddles. lol I am willing to upgrade things on the bike and keep the stock parts then when I go to sale it next year put the bike back to stock, I'll go check out the video Thank you again!
So glad you mentioned the Midwest. Most reviews never consider that type of trails that we have here. Our trails are located mostly in dense woods and have punchy climbs with tight twisty switchbacks. We don't necessarily require slack geometry here.
I enjoy riding in the Midwest. This would be a perfect Midwest bike.
Perfect timing on this video. Just got my DV9 yesterday, did a quick test ride, and can't wait for the weekend. Purchased it thanks to some glowing reviews online and your wife's recommendation as well. Your review is icing on the cake. A hardtail that will allow me to get back into racing yet fun with my wife and kids on flowing trails. I'm stoked. By the way, I had no idea how gorgeous Sedona looks. Need to plan a trip out there for some riding. Cheers!
Congrats on a killer bike. A dv9 should fit the bill perfectly.
I own a dv9 and I'd say your review is spot on. This is a great bike for people who want to learn the fundamentals of trail riding. It's forgiving due to the lightweight and sturdy enough so it doesnt feel like it's going to snap when the trail gets gnarly. Also 2.6 inch tires are nice for those really chunky trails.
CORRECTION: There are two errors in this video (sorry, I get my numbers mixed up from time to time, especially without the charts in front of me). It's got a 120mm fork, not a 130mm fork. And it doesn't have a very short chainstay (439mm). But it feels shorter than the numbers suggest.
I’ve been riding a medium DV9 for almost a year around northern CA.. it’s made me a climbing champ, even with flat pedals. Super fun at high speed. I’m 5’9” probably should have got a large for some extra reach.. great wheels and with 2.5/2.6 tires really help soak up the trail.
Awesome. I think that'd be the perfect norcal bike. I'd love to try it with 2.6s sometime, but my wife really likes the lighter 2.35s (which actually measure quite wide on these rims).
Your reviews are extreme interesting! I really love to watch them.
I wished I could pick up this bike after watching and drive it on my own...
About the OneUp dropper. As a short rider, I'm stuck with them. They have the shortest insertion length in the biz and my Evils can only fit a 125mm otherwise. My V2 had problems sticking, but can be solved by adding air and a little light grease under the collar. They just came out with the V2.1 and say those issues have been resolved. So far, it's been butter. I'll let you know if it ends up having issues after some more time on it
Good review Steve, I agree with your overall assessment. Mine is set up with a 130 Pike and 2.6/2.5 tires which up the capability a notch in the rough stuff. Really fun bike. I recently picked up a Fuse 2020 frame and built it up pretty nice - it’s surprisingly more compliant than the DV9 even though it’s Al - great to have both in the stable.
And are you also riding on 29 inch wheels?
I'm really looking forward to your review of the 2023 DV9
Loved the review, Steve. Looking forward to the new format and can't wait to see you review a bigger range of HTs. I hope companies have taken notice of your channel and lend you some demos! So many awesome hardtails out there.
Thanks Brandon. I hope I can keep the demo bikes coming. I'm willing to bet 99% of the bike companies out there don't know I exist. But I'll keep reaching out regardless.
Thor! Was surprised to see your cameo appearance! We came from Michigan and stayed at your place back in May. Had a great stay. Thinking about going back to a hard tail like this bike as a future purchase.
Thanks for finally reviewing this bike! Asked for a review on it a couple of moths ago as I was thinking about buying a dv9. Got a great deal on a trek fuel ex 9.7 so went with a ful susp even though I wanted a hardtail, but still very happy about it ;)
Another great review, really like your channel, keep up the good work. I have an Enduro full-sus and am looking around for something more trail/XC to fill the gap. Something similar to the DV9 I guess? Around 11kgs. Have you reviewed anymore bikes like this? I know you look more at aggressive hardtails. Cheers
Love the bike review but really interested in those trails you had it on! Was in Sedona in December (my wife and I rode with you for a bit on Mescal and Chuckwagon) but don't remember seeing Teacup. Love the channel!
teacup doesn't connect to mezcal. It's a much tougher trail than chuckwagon or mezcal. You'll have to check it out next time you're in town.
Great video. After some research and thanks to your great review, I just purchased a Dv9. Thanks!
Definitely want to see a review after you put that head tube angle set in I didn't even know they made that so you can change your head tube angle with it huh I'm going to have to look into that
An angle reducing headset only works on certain headtubes. For instance, you can't put one on a chameleon since it has an integrated headset.
My Zocalo was speced w/ a 120mm Revelation, i put a 130mm Pike and it didnt change the head angle too much, a -.5 slacker (i moved my seat up on the rails so as not to lose my ST angle)... but i would have no problem smashing most Sedona blues and blacks on it (thats what a good design can do)....
Well, on this review, you answered my comments about One Up Droppers Steve. 😂🤝🏾🇺🇸💪🏾👍🏾
I saw the new 2023 version has a 66.5 headtube angle . I’m guessing it would make it a little more versatile.
Great honest review I learnt something today special it gives me interest to buy.
I'm glad you learned something. That's one of my goals as a TH-camr
As an Ibis DV9 owner, I am completely happy with my Large 11 speed build. My LBS had the DV9 and a Salsa Timberjack when I went in to purchase a bike. Rode both of them and felt the best on the DV9. I'm coming from a full ridged Surly ECR. Just my thoughts. This review is spot on, always giving us good reviews.
funny Thor is your buddy, met him coming out of the creek bed from former Western Civ up to Girdner one day last year when i was wondering what direction i should go bc i had been out there for 3hrs....good dude...they run a nice hotel near sooooo many of those trails you are on today. #sedonarules (after the festival is over 😁)
Great review. I'm in the market for a hardtail went from initially considering a Trek Stache to this IBIS DV9. I"m 5'8" with a 30" inseam. IBIS sizing has me between a Med and Large? I know this is your wife's bike, but curious if you have a recommendation for me as far as sizing. Thanks and it Keep Rollin. Hardtail Party @ Park City one day maybe??
Those bikes are pretty different. I'm 5'6" with a 28" inseam and the med feels good to me with a 40mm stem.
Hi Steve, Thanks for great review!
Since you have reviewed both the Ibis DV9 and the Marin Pine Mountain I would like to ask you which one would you choose as a bikepacking bike for long days in the saddle? Based on the comfort as the main parameter. Thanks!
I would choose the aluminum chameleon for bikepacking. The dv9 and pine MTN couldn't be more different. I'd never choose a carbon bike for my bikepacking bike. The frame bags and straps rub the frame too much.
Great review on the DV-9 Ibis. Steve, What is your inseam measurement? I believe we are built quite
alike. Mine is 27.5", I'm just concerned on the standover height. I think I could ride a small or
a medium. I ride mostly gravel trails, and do about 16 miles a day, but would like to do more.
Thanks Barry
My inseam is 27"
Strange... the Ibis website lists the DV9 head tube angle at 68.5°
Just got my dv9 frame the other day to compliment my HD4 Enduro smasher. What fork do you recommend for my dv9? I'm 185lbs and pretty agressive. I did buy the dv9 primarily for xc/trail riding here in wa state. Thanks!
Stepcast 34. Either 100mm or 120mm depending on your travel.
I'm REALLy interested in getting my hands on a DV9. There's, unfortunately, no way to demo a bike since I can't find one anywhere near my home. I'm currently riding a rigid fork Stache, medium, and comfortable. I've seen guys talking about needing to upsize on a DV9. Opinions?
I’ve loved my one up dropper so far
Glad to hear it. This one has been nothing but problems. The design is awful. It requires the housing to move, rather than the inner cable. So if your frame routing doesn't allow the housing to move (like in this case), the dropper won't stay up with weight in it. It's been an example of one place that saving a buck doesn't pay off for us.
@@hardtailparty Yeah I don't know what they were thinking when they designed it to move the housing. One-up rectified that with the V2.
Christopher McGlaughlin I have the v2, that might be why I’ve had no issues while owning it
hardtail party I guess I spoke too son, dropper failed on me yesterday. Post goes up and down wether actuated or not.
Interested to see your thoughts on a carbon epic HT. Climbing comparison
Gotcha, I am 68 years old and I would like my last bike to be a nice ride. My problem is, there
is not an Ibis dealer within 850 miles of where I live. So my chances of trying one out is next to
nothing. So all that I can do is take people that ride them for what they claim. What would the
chance be, that I could get you to check out Ibis to see if they might have a build that would
fit me.I would be indebted to you and your wife for the remainder of my life. I follow you folks
on Dusty Betty all the time. Please consider helping me out, Oh I just want to ride Gravel track.
Thank you Barry
I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. Ibis discontinued this model, sadly. You're probably going to have to find something second-hand.
@@hardtailparty FYI- Their website says this model is coming back in 2022
Awesome video, I've probably watched 10 times debating on the DV9! I'm at 5'8" and some change and only concerned with the short reach on the medium. That being said, I plan to run a 100mm fork which lengthens that a tad and going to likely run a 40-50 stem. Do you think a guy would be fine on a medium?
for xc riding, yes I think a med would fit you well. It rides longer than the reach numbers suggest.
hardtail party thanks man, that seals the deal for me. Just ordered a black/orange in medium from Jenson! Should be a little ripper!
Great review. Thank you.
Nice video and review of the bike Steve.Whats your take on the oval chainring ? i just bought one for my new Torrent , still waiting to fit.
I like em. Power is a little smoother, especially on a heavy bike.
Chameleon was a tank , sold it bought a Highball - wow it rips
Helpful video. What do you recommend a hardtail MTB carbon frame for steep climbing hills?
lovely video
Wonder how the new yeti arc would compare to the dv9. Super tempted.
Geo wise, I'll bet they're quite similar in feel. The aec looks to have a shorter chainstay. I've been trying to get one in for review, but no luck.
@@hardtailparty if the frames rides like the dv9 I am super stoked, but if it's like the carbon chameleon not so much....fingers crossed. Love your reviews so far.
Do you think it could be rideable with a regular seat post?? Or is it going to limit the capability of the bike?
Ok, I’m a new subscriber to your channel Nd I also dabble in TH-cam. Can you help me? I’m a long time XC racer. My local shop that my team races through recommended the DV9. I was spectacle and still am. I have a worn XX1 cassette on a new chain right now so you can imagine my frustration of powering out of the corners so, I’m not full on power right now. Specked a SID Ultimate SL 44mm offset, Bontrager Kovee Pro 30 wheel set. Raced Trek, Specialized, Salsa, Niner and others. I was SS for years, even in AZ and CO rigid all the way. My favorite geometry was Niners SS with their carbon fork. How can I make this DV9 like that?
Sounds like fun! Can't wait to hear about the angleset. Does an angleset also slacken the seat tube angle?
No, the angleset only affects the head angle. Video coming soon explaining all of it.
Just bought this frame. Trying to figure out if I should go 44mm offset on the fork or the suggested 51mm...anyone out there have any experience with this bike?
Sounds like the complete opposite of my hardtail (Giant Talon), the Talon loses momentum badly on tech climbs and rock gardens in general, and is absolutely lifeless when you try to pump it or push it into a berm, and spends most of its time on chunky sections bottoming out the fork (its stock fork is a craptastic Suntour), I suspect the frame is simply too stiff. When I got my Trance it was like night and day, especially given the Trance's reputation for being quite poppy and playful. I still want an aggressive hardtail down the road for a second bike.
Man, sorry to hear your talon is so rough. A great hardtail is a thing of beauty.
A Transition Throttle would be a great bike to pair with this Ibis
Is transition still making the throttle? I wish they fit 2.8s
hardtail party I think you can still pick up a frame on closeout, but yeah, discontinued
@@travisclemmer4152 dang. Always sad to hear when a hardtail gets discontinued.
Hey, is there any you would do a review on the trek stache 7? If not it’s cool. I’ve never seen a solid review on it. & I wanna see how far that bike can be pushed.
I'd like to review one. I don't think trek is interested in sending me one but I'll see. That bike can handle a lot of challenging terrain, but not at fast speeds. I do love the stache, I just don't feel like they can handle rough riding. I'd love a 65* hta stache.
The reach seems so short. My 5 year old bike (L) has 450 mm and seems short. This in large is 422 mm. Meanwhile the seat tube is still quite long too. Could only run a 150 mm dropper.
And couldn't possibly upsize to XL because the seat tube is so long. The seat tube of the Medium and the reach of the XL would work for me.
Great review as always. Always kinda wanted one of those. I had a chameleon and agree about all your comments regarding it. I have been on a Diamondback Sync'r Carbon for quite awhile. It could be the best bike for having most all the positive attributes of both. Carbon frame, slacker head angle and can run both 29 x 2.6 to 27.5 x 3.0. I have been loving it as my do-it-all bike. How about a test?
I've ridden a syncr before. It wasn't my favorite geometry, but I know a lot of people like them.
@@hardtailparty You may have been on the older geo frame. The newest Carbon Sync'r frame is different geo spec.
@@robbieflatt9736 possibly. I remember the chainstay feeling pretty long and the head angle not feeling as slack as the geo charts suggested. Maybe I'll see if I can get one in for review.
Hey HP, I'm curious how you think the sergeant and dv9 vary in riding feel? Are they pretty similar just different weights? Thanks!
Extremely different riding feel, they're not really in the same category except that they're both hardtails. The sergeant feels more like a Jeep. The DV9 feels like a Lotus. The sergeant is extremely versatile, and fun at long days in the saddle and exploring. The DV9 is zippy and quick and wants to see just how fast you can ride every flat and uphill section there is. The DV9 is a more exciting, energetic ride. Both are great bikes, it just depends on what feel you want.
The Sergeant has pretty long chainstays, which makes carrying loads great, and makes for a super planted feel. The sergeant feels more durable and solid. The ibis begs you to pedal faster and faster. It's an incredible climber. The ibis is not nearly as versatile as the sergeant, regarding what wheel/tire setups you can run, but for its intended purpose it's way better at xc flowy trails.
@@hardtailparty That's awesome! Jeep vs Lotus really puts it into perspective for me. Thank you for the time and quality put into your responses and content.
When will you get your hands on the new 2023 DV9?
I actually received it last week. Videos coming soon.
@@hardtailparty Awesome. Excited to hear your take. Looks like a solid choice for a slow guy like myself to trail ride and XC race.
Nice review. Can this fit 29x2.8, even if it's on the fork? You think you can do a review of oval vs round chainring, please?
According to fix, the fork only fits up to a 29x2.6
A lot of the 2020 RockShox forks will fit a 29x3.0
Thank you! I read that some 2.8 tires measure out to closer to 2.6 & WTB has like two 29x2.6 tires that measure out to 2.7 flat.
@@mellissanash7517 you're welcome to experiment. I don't have enough rim and tire combos to experiment with this fork. Fox lists 29x2.6 as max, but who knows. The one thing you don't want is the fork to bottom and have the tire contact the crown on bottom out. That will jam the front wheels and pitch you over the bars at the worst possible time.
What headset angle adjuster do you like?
Any idea how this would compare to the Santa Cruz highball ? I think the head tube is slightly slacker and chainstays longer. Is this a dirt worthy hardtail
The highball is way more XC. It would have been extremely scary on this trail. The head angle on the highball is much much steeper. The DV9 is a better bike for all-around trail riding.
hardtail party thank you very much for your insights.
how much did the build cost?
Not sure if your Oneup dropper is still giving you problems or not. Mine started sticking on me so I did a service on it and it stopped sticking.
Mine is a design flaw. It's not staying up because of the design.
I wonder if the rebuild kit would fix it.
@@ericthatcher sadly it won't. We've contacted one-up and it's the design.
With advances in material science they could engineer the proper flex and rebound damping into the frame. They also have to have a couple of different flexes in each size depending on rider weight. I think we may see this in the future.
Thanks for the great videos!!!!
Exactly!
what's the weight? thanks.
Do a video with the TREK MARLIN 6 please ? These videos are very informative !
The trek Marlin is a great starter bike but it's not really my cup of tea as it doesn't suit the trials where I ride. Unfortunately it also has qr axles.
I've heard reviews saying that in the lowest gear the chain runs on the frame and you cant use like a chain guide protector as there isnt enough room?
On the chainstay**
I have not had that problem
This looks like a great bike for the rolling single track we have around here Maryland. Just this afternoon I called the only dealer anywhere near me, and they are not close, and they said they don’t carry it and have no plans to. And like every other bike dealer he started telling me how I should really be looking at fs. I’m coming off a 2005 Felt RXC that I’ve ridden everywhere. I recently demoed a fs and it felt like I was driving a truck through the woods.
Why is everyone pushing fs so hard.? I can’t even find hard tail bikes to demo.
Great question. I wonder the same thing myself. A lot of shops push full suspension so hard!
Online retailers like fanatik and Jensen have them, but that doesn't help you test ride one. I wonder if you could find someone local on mtbr who would let you throw a leg over it.
Yeah. I’m keeping my eyes out for one but hard tails around here are getting to be harder and harder to find and most that I see are older bikes like mine.
A used Chamelion just popped up for sale near by. I just watched your review from a few years ago. We do have local Santa Cruz dealers but none of them carry the Chameleon. How would you compare the Chameleon to the DV9.
@@chesapeakeaerialphotollc5954 i compare the dv9 to the chameleon a couple times in this video. The dv9 is so new it'll be hard to find a used one. You can try pinkbike or mtbr classifieds.
@@hardtailparty I just rewatched the video after making that comment and see that you do compare the two. The DV9 just looks like such a fun bike and probably more my style. Don't have much hope of finding a used one--especially around here. Thank for the feedback. Enjoy your videos.
Everyone is waiting for a review of Stanton hardtails... steel and ti
I don't have one at the momebt. I'm hoping to het one in to review soon.
Have you heard of viper?
They have carbon hardtail frames for 439!
I'm ascared
Edit:price change
Is that an oval chain ring?
Yeah, he mentioned it being an Absolute Black 32t.
Sweet 🤘
can we get a norco torrent on here please 🙂
I've been hounding them for over a year and i just barely got one in for review. Stay tuned...
New video idea? How to make your hardtail softer on the trails. I got my a** kicked today on my hardtail. Need ideas on how to make it more comfortable?
That's definitely a video I've got in the works. Quick tips: run tubeless, run wide tires, run lower tire pressure, learn to absorb impacts with your legs (getting light on the bike), slow down, and read the trail and pick perfect lines. There's a reason they say riding a Hardtail makes you a better rider. Where do you live and which hardtail do you ride?
hardtail party thank you soooo much for the ideas. I tried to do a TH-cam search and nothing came up. With all your hardtail experience I figured you are definitely the guy to ask. It’s only fitting you nail a video on it before someone els lol anyways great videos keep them coming!
sorry didn't read your full comment. I live in Yakima WA. I was riding Rocky Top, Yes very rocky lol . It dry desert land out in Eastern WA. The other side of the state is gorgeous with some of the best trails in the Pacific North west. Then I am about two hours from Hood River Oregon where they have amazing trails up in the forest. I get to ride lots of different types of trails. But at home its dry sharp rocks and powder fine dust/dirt.
@@TexasLife39 cool, I've ridden in the area. Which bike are you on? What size (and width) tires? Check out my video about tire size.
@@hardtailparty hardtail party I sold all my MTB stuff about two years ago. So I went down to the local bike shop and spent a lot to regain all my gear again and so that forced me to pick up a 2020 Marlin 5. do to budget reasons. So for this year that's what I will be riding till I can pick up a Santa Cruz hardtail next year or something along those lines. Never had a hardtail beat me up as much as this one has done. So at the moment its fully stock other then peddles. lol I am willing to upgrade things on the bike and keep the stock parts then when I go to sale it next year put the bike back to stock, I'll go check out the video Thank you again!
I’m looking forward to hearing how this bike rides with the angle set and slacker hta!
Stay tuned. Coming soon...
Stiff = efficient is a load of bull .
Not when you're standing and sprinting.