The Hollander always held a special place for me because it was the only Ral Partha metal mini that I had. I saw it in a comic book store on a rare trip into the city when I was 12. When I got to the cash I didn't quite have enough money to buy it, but the owner of the store was impressed that a kid my age played BattleTech so he gave it to me for free. It's those little things that stay with you for life.
@@killsode4760 or 5 kobolds in a trenchcoat. And its 3067 so it has 5 kobolds with +1 daggers clamped onto the outside of the trenchcoat riding along with it as well.
@@ryandow6953 The Hunchback's cannon is protected by 20 armor pips, face only has 12 total so i'm gonna assume that's your target. they're built for different fights. relatively open terrain is gonna give it to the Hollander. But if the Hunchie catches the Hollander in a city, it's a bad time. Because the Hollander needs to nail the cockpit, but the Hunchie will blow out any part it hits with the Big Iron.
The Gun so Fun it grew legs to dance with. The Hollander is niche, but in that niche it reigns supreme for it's era. Supporting a medium lance or in the right light lance, it's a fearsome support 'mech, holding back behind its allies and taking potshots from afar. Even supporting a heavy lance it's a 'mech to respect. But that's the thing, it's a *support* platform. You run it unto a fight, and the Hollander's going to die. But, skulking around, lining up shots on priority targets and choosing it's fights, the Hollander can be a terror.
My absolute favourite 'Mech of all time. Practicality and effectiveness be damned, it's a fantastically cool design completely focused on just one specific mission... Killing Clanners!
Snipings a good job mate. Challenging work, outdoors, you'll never go hungry. As long as there's two people left on the planet, somebody's gonna want someone dead. - Hollander pilot
Soon as I read that first sentence, instantly switched to accent Australian in my head. Why does this seem like something an always cheerful Aussie Hollander pilot would say?
I remember the first time encountered the Hollander, it was one of the early missions in mechcommander. When that thing opened up and one shot'd Hunter in his Firestarter had my 9 year old self completely shocked. Granted that was technically a Hollander II, but close enough
Lynx and Hunter were my guys! Oh man, brings back memories. That mission sucked, you had to escort the APC. Played a d/l’d version at one point and it’s possible to go the opposite way I believe and go northeast and arty/face the Hollander first, but then you run the risk of the commandos hurting you later
I have a Merc unit that is entirely composed of Hollander and Hollander II variants. I call them The Bloody Dutch. They're actually pretty terrifying as long as the ammo and armor lasts. 😂
For some reason, I think of the kid who stuck his finger in the sea wall to prevent his community flooding. Yes, I know what the word is, I don't want to get booted because I used it in a non slang manner.
Before the saturation of the internet the only way we learned if new mechs was when the newest TRO would come out...which happened sometimes happened before the ral partha mini was introduced . When we saw the hollander in the early 90s we couldnt believe it! Light mech pilots rejoiced!!!
Ah the Hollander. The glassiest of Glass Cannons I have ever seen to ever grace the tabletop. Gotta love the big risk you take from fielding even one of these on the tabletop.
@@MrDmitriRavenoff It’s a revolutionary war era musket man firing a 200lb Minie Bullet at multiple times the speed of sound. It’s armor is range and cover.
The Hollander is a one-trick pony, but it really knows its trick! This design makes sense, in its role as a stopgap response to the Clanners. Slap the Omni Mech at range with accurate, powerful fire that will smash through the thickest armor, and one-shot light-armored targets. Have a couple of comrades to block attempts to rush the Hollander. Repeat and rinse until the Clanners retreat or are destroyed. I must agree the Pack Hunter is a sort of evolution from the Hollander.
@@Mrwednesday84 Pretty sure Operation SCOUR liberated Earth during Jihad, and that was coalition army... And WOB is closer to clans than inner sphere anyway, both remanants of old SL, both lead by bumblefucks that changed normal people into psychos...
Can we just agree to disagree that all of this nonsense could’ve been prevented had Aleksandr Kerensky stuck around a bit longer/ had his damn son not been an egotistical nut basing their new groups off of failed pre-space flight Terran forms of rule that were oppressive and divisive?
I just recently got into mech building in megameklab, and your videos have influenced many of my designs. Hearing you in my head describe the trade offs of my mechs gives me a second perspective and I think makes them better. one in particular I have poured time into not just the design, but the fluff and lore. I went and found a planet and factory that could make it, and used existing equipment and parts available to that factory. I also wrote out capabilities and deployment histories for it and its variants; explaining the reason for its creation and its (potential) history in combat. It has flaws, it has strengths, but most of all it has character.
I feel like the Hollander would have been an amazing opportunity to make a good 40 tonne 'mech! Use the extra tonnage into armour, a medium laser and a tonne of ammo or something. Great video nonetheless Big Red. :)
I love this design for two reasons: 1) Clarity of Purpose. Take big gun to the front, and shoot things with it until you’re out of ammo. That’s it. 2) It looks cool. Almost animal. Only downsides I can see: no backup weapon, and no jump jets. Even a couple small lasers for anti-infantry would be good. The Hollander II should’ve perfected this design. An extra ten tons means more armor, a couple jump jets, a couple small lasers and bump the engine up a notch or two.
I think I'm gonna need to get some of these - two of my favorite light designs are the panther and Valkyrie, and the Hollander is basically those, but with more gun. I... Think I might need to model this up and have a few. Hopefully we'll get CGL plastic soon
Ah yes a weapon with legs. I love these kind of mechs, various Hollanders, Pack Hunters, and Legionnaires all see a lot of time on our table. Looking forward to the Hollander III video.
I have loved the Hollander since I first saw it in the TRO! I have not stopped loving it since buying the TRO and reading up on it. Great light mech paired with Commandos in a light hunter/killer lance. Plus I am an olde school Steiner guy. 20th Arcturan Guards the White Bears of Uther!
I'll never forget my first playtho of mechcommander and in one of if not the first mission you come across one of these little fuckers. I don't know why but damn near 1 shot my commando with after multiple more plays I can only say was a lucky shot but I always respected that big gun since
One my favorites. This thing is terrific, light mech that punches way above its weight class. Love weapon platform mechs, especially the little guys. Like the Kit Fox with a gauss or an Urbanmech with an AC/20, it is simply good times.
As someone who despises ammunition based weaponry with some minor exceptions (ac-2, lrms, and ac-20) I find myself actually liking this mech…yes it uses ammunition, yes it has a bomb strapped to the mech in the form of the Gauss rifle. Regardless of all that, much like the AC-20 the fight ending potential of the Gauss rifle via headshot makes this mech always a worthwhile choice. Honestly the only upgrade I would consider on the mech is the addition of an xl engine (normally a very bad idea) and reinvesting the saved weight into a bigger engine in order to give it more speed.
Needs an ECM, which is going to cost tonnage. Suggest installing a Light Gyro, and possibly downgrading to a Light Cockpit. Although the Stealth system may well trap enough heat that you might be forced to install DHS.
This would be very good for hull down ambushes too. That gun can pop over a hill, lock and fire, then drop down the reverse slope and change position. aka tank tactics.
Imagine being a Mechwarrior on a mission and one of your homies just gets headclipped and looking at the source of the shot you just see this menace flipping you and your lance off to then scurry back into cover as it's allies engaged your lance.
I'm surprised no one has put a RAC5 in one of them. Its one of my favourite (modded) MW5 lights. RAC5, 210XL Engine, 2 small lasers and 4 tons of ammo, drop ferro for standard, almost max armor, add an extra sink for the RAC5. Highly mobile BRRT.
Ah the Hollander when you need a big honking Gauss but forget that it needs ammo, and to this day I wonder why this never got the triple leg treatment because might have helped with stability.
@@kythebengzon8023 A heavier chassis that is fully focused on the Improved Heavy Gauss Rifle or IHGR would be a good "Hollander but big" mech, IMO. I don't have a sheet for such a thing, but it wouldn't be all that hard to come up with, I think.
@@noppornwongrassamee8941 But part of the problem of too much mass is that the legs might not be capable to support it. Which would be moderated if the excess mass is actually caused by an additional leg that improves the mech's capability to bear its own weight. It's not additional mass caused by torso armor we'd be talking about here. And since legs move one by one, the engine/reactor being too small-bore would also be no problem - even more so when you can actually support _more_ mass and thus, a heavier reactor with an additional leg.
My favorite Hollander refits are the ones that stuff it full of Clan weapons and electronics on an IS frame. A Clan ER PPC, a pair of Clan SSRM2s and a ton of ammo, IS TAG, Clan ECM/Probe, and a Clan Targeting Computer with IS Endo, maxed out Ferro, and Double Heat Sinks is a ferocious hunter-killer for under 3.5m C-bills. You could drop the electronics for a bigger engine or jump jets if you're into that, but I prefer them.
Bless Coventry Metal Works and whatever shipment of good stuff helped them conceptualize a light 'mech with only one weapon, but making it the absolute best weapon ever designed. Not sure if they slipped off the tight rope to the side of madness or genius, but either way, what a machine. Also, my first experience with the Hollander II was in Mechwarrior Living Legends. And I loved that thing.
Maintenance Tech: "For the last time we cannot reinstall your Hollander's Gauss Rifle from a shoulder mounting to hip mount. If you feel that inadequate buy a big truck or something like everyone else!"
Forgot this thing even existed, but I do remember someone saying that my 4 legged 100 ton Artillery/Aim support mech resembled it. I can see why and honestly I can tell where and why this thing would shine the brightest. Definitely something you want to use to protect your Artillery and hold the line at bay/coral the enemy as you pound then with the heavy stuff.
eventually I plan on rebuilding all of the TRO's Innershpehe mechs into full clan tech rebuilds. The Hollander will be on that list, and I'm already thinking of how I'd configure it. endo-steel, fero-fiberous, Clan XL, jump jets, Clanner Gauss Rifle, 2t ammo, and if there is any tonnage remaining, a few erml's and DHS for 'backup' I wonder if there'll be enough tonnage for a Targeting Computer?
I was bored and made a 60-ton Hollander IV variant. Same signal Gauss Rifle, and 2 tons of ammo, the improvements are an IS 325 Light Engine, 4 improved Jump Jets, compact Gyro, and armor marked up to 10 tons. For the cost of 11,320, 960 c-bills. This was funny because a friend of mine runs a VTTG and the players have 80-ton Clan mechs. They were stomping his missions. So he threw my Hollander IV at them and clipped two of the players 80-ton mechs out of their cockpits and they were forced to retreat from the mission for the first time. Thanks to the two clan mechs, They were stripped for another upgraded variant of the Hollander IV Variant. With a Clan XL 325 Engine, Clan endo steel, and Ferro-Fibrous, (Which knocked the tonnage usage down to 52 out of 60 tons and Crit slots to 63 out of 78.) With new C-DHS, C-Gauss rifle, 3 C-MED Pulse Lasers, and ECM. The mech's heat/cooling: 16/20 Thanks to these recovered Clan mechs, it was enough to retrofit 4 Hollander IV's mechs! lol, and yes they went up against the players and won 4 times in a row before the players just gave up on the mission to capture/destroy a HPG outpost. Out of the 4 retrofits on one was destroyed and another mech was half destroyed.
For me I think the Hollander is the reason why I have always had a love a single weapon platform mechs. Though for me at least I always want to strip one down so I can shove a Long Tom on the mech and keep it even further away from the enemy.
I remember picking up TRO 3055 back in the 90's and when I first gazed upon the Hollander and its Gauss rifle, my first thought was " Because we fucking can! ". Also a much better design than the Thunder.😜
Interesting stuff. I only knew of the Hollander as Sarna mentions the Blitzkrieg (a favourite of mine) as a replacement for the Hollander. I like the asymmetrical look of the Hollander👍
Faced a periphery force in BTA3062 featuring a Hollander variant with a Sniper Cannon. It rocked my Locust’s rear armor on a miss and caused me some inconvenience. And then it accidentally shot it’s own ally, a Panther… right in the back. The Panther survived but a little more punishment from me coerced the pilot into ejecting.
First time going over the TRO, the Hollander and the Venom became favorites that I would pair together. Even painted a company of mechs with those two in green and gold. At the time I didn't know anything about the factions and countered protests from my more learned battletech player by claiming it was a mercenary unit.
I recently had one of these in BTA 3062. It kicked a serious amount of ass for a long time until I got a royal champion with a gauss rifle. Only popped a few cockpits with it over 40 or so missions, but that thing had a hatred for right arms. You could be on the left side of a cicada and still remove the right arm. The Hollander: Because the urban mech is too slow, and the hunchback can't find AC20 ammo.
Hollander a good though niche weapons platform, I love deploy it in urban combat pair with some cheap bodyguard non mech ideally or in a position with other long range assets dug in, outside of that fire and maneuver. One time during a slog of a campaign loss the gauss rifle and replaced it with a AC 10, and then AC 5 when ammo ran dry for the 10. Performed very well, typically I would think about messing with the mech but this is one of the few mechs I wouldn't mess with if not forced to. Fighting it went against a Hollander Ace that was very unpleasant day saving grace it ran out of ammo and withdrew. The mech is an example of Lyran's making some of the best mechs outside of the heavier tonnage everyone sees them for.
I remember my first time whit the hollander. Going from: the hell is this thing to holly hit it just one shot an atlas. Ever since then it will have my respect. The hollander is one of the few mech that have the "honor" of being kill on sight no mather what
Innovation: AKA: Slap a gauss rifle on it. Just gauss rifle, just gauss rifle. Also make sure the Ammo can be quickly and easily ejected to make sure the machine doesn't suffer an internal ammo explosion.
Currently playing a Battletech tabletop rpg. My merc company will probably be needing to buy a couple. Currently caught in the invasion corridor and all our guass rifles are on assault mechs. Through some AMAZING luck, we have a King Crab with double guass instead of the normal ac20. We were paid for one mission with a Royal SLDF Nightstar, a true relic with 2 guass rifles. And finally, we were scouted by some shady folks (probably Comstar) and had to duel the Dragoons. We beat them and forced a surrender. (Only 2 Dragoon pilots suvived engaging us) We got a Mad 5b out of it.
I remember when TR3055 was released and loved this mech. I would put a pair in a Support Lance with a couple Grim Reapers. Lots of Long-Range Destruction! Especially if they are piloted by Mechwarriors with high gunnery.
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High velocity slug into the cockpit is really the great equalizer 😎
Also the most valuable salvage. Violent Redistribution of wealth.
TTTriple Gauss Rifle
Nothing like using a 35 ton mech to shoot the pilot out of a 75 ton one
the great equalizer, the guass rifle
Splat! The poor mechtech will need a bucket, a mop and a lot of ammonia
The Hollander always held a special place for me because it was the only Ral Partha metal mini that I had. I saw it in a comic book store on a rare trip into the city when I was 12. When I got to the cash I didn't quite have enough money to buy it, but the owner of the store was impressed that a kid my age played BattleTech so he gave it to me for free. It's those little things that stay with you for life.
Awesome story. Thanks for sharing it bro
That's a super cool story. :)
Love it. These are the things that make our community. Thank you for sharing this.
100% man. Miss those days
:)
I explained this mech to a non-Battletech friend as "Imagine a Kobold running at you carrying a +3 Vorpal Unholy Avenger."
And is not just one kobold. It's five.
@@killsode4760 or 5 kobolds in a trenchcoat. And its 3067 so it has 5 kobolds with +1 daggers clamped onto the outside of the trenchcoat riding along with it as well.
@@jiiaga5017 5 kobolds in a trench coat was actually a character concept I was toying with
There are many mechs considered Canon in BattleTech. The Hollander is the only one I consider Cannon.
This is a brilliant comment.
Excellent dad joke. And thank God you know the difference between the words.
Hunchback:. I am the ultimate example of a mech built around its large ballistic cannon built into a torso.
Hollander: Hold my beer
Hollander pilot snipes said ac20 from some trees 1.5 km away...... "what cannon?"
@@ryandow6953 The Hunchback's cannon is protected by 20 armor pips, face only has 12 total so i'm gonna assume that's your target. they're built for different fights. relatively open terrain is gonna give it to the Hollander. But if the Hunchie catches the Hollander in a city, it's a bad time. Because the Hollander needs to nail the cockpit, but the Hunchie will blow out any part it hits with the Big Iron.
"He just does what I do."
"But better." 🤣
The Gun so Fun it grew legs to dance with.
The Hollander is niche, but in that niche it reigns supreme for it's era. Supporting a medium lance or in the right light lance, it's a fearsome support 'mech, holding back behind its allies and taking potshots from afar. Even supporting a heavy lance it's a 'mech to respect.
But that's the thing, it's a *support* platform. You run it unto a fight, and the Hollander's going to die. But, skulking around, lining up shots on priority targets and choosing it's fights, the Hollander can be a terror.
What a Clanner mechwarrior sees when a Hollander is in the field: A cockpit and a Gauss Rifle poking over the ridgeline.
My absolute favourite 'Mech of all time. Practicality and effectiveness be damned, it's a fantastically cool design completely focused on just one specific mission... Killing Clanners!
> Procurement Officer, "What weapon systems do you have?"
> Hollander, "The only one I need."
Snipings a good job mate. Challenging work, outdoors, you'll never go hungry. As long as there's two people left on the planet, somebody's gonna want someone dead.
- Hollander pilot
Soon as I read that first sentence, instantly switched to accent Australian in my head. Why does this seem like something an always cheerful Aussie Hollander pilot would say?
I remember the first time encountered the Hollander, it was one of the early missions in mechcommander. When that thing opened up and one shot'd Hunter in his Firestarter had my 9 year old self completely shocked. Granted that was technically a Hollander II, but close enough
That's how I encountered this mech too! With terror, respect, and frustration.
Man I really miss MechCommander
Mechcammander was awesome
Lynx and Hunter were my guys! Oh man, brings back memories.
That mission sucked, you had to escort the APC. Played a d/l’d version at one point and it’s possible to go the opposite way I believe and go northeast and arty/face the Hollander first, but then you run the risk of the commandos hurting you later
I have a Merc unit that is entirely composed of Hollander and Hollander II variants. I call them The Bloody Dutch. They're actually pretty terrifying as long as the ammo and armor lasts. 😂
For some reason, I think of the kid who stuck his finger in the sea wall to prevent his community flooding. Yes, I know what the word is, I don't want to get booted because I used it in a non slang manner.
Before the saturation of the internet the only way we learned if new mechs was when the newest TRO would come out...which happened sometimes happened before the ral partha mini was introduced . When we saw the hollander in the early 90s we couldnt believe it! Light mech pilots rejoiced!!!
I have never heard of this chassis before today, and I am shocked. This sounds like the 'mech of my dreams.
Ah the Hollander. The glassiest of Glass Cannons I have ever seen to ever grace the tabletop. Gotta love the big risk you take from fielding even one of these on the tabletop.
As a DCMS player, you solve the single Hollander problem by fielding 12 of them.
Nah, the Hussar is more glass cannon.
@Bthsr71 God that thing is so odd. 30 tons and 5% armor coverage. 😊
@@MrDmitriRavenoff
It’s a revolutionary war era musket man firing a 200lb Minie Bullet at multiple times the speed of sound. It’s armor is range and cover.
It has been called "What the urbanmech wanted to be"
Urbie is what the urbie wanted to be
I mean you should be able to slot an AC/20 into it...
Shadow Hawk's younger, more successful, brother.
Urbie is for close range, and you could still probably cram a Gauss Rifle in an Urbie.
@@caverramos7581 Not wrong. When it comes times for mercs with serious means to kit an urbie to go 146 km/h, that 360 comes in real handy.
For everyone craving a modern plastic miniature, Strato Minis has a nice multi-part Hollander proxy.
The Hollander is a one-trick pony, but it really knows its trick! This design makes sense, in its role as a stopgap response to the Clanners. Slap the Omni Mech at range with accurate, powerful fire that will smash through the thickest armor, and one-shot light-armored targets. Have a couple of comrades to block attempts to rush the Hollander. Repeat and rinse until the Clanners retreat or are destroyed. I must agree the Pack Hunter is a sort of evolution from the Hollander.
I hate the Inner Sphere, when given the chance I will ALWAYS play as the Clans. I love killing as many freebirth scum as I can by going for headshots.
@@Mrwednesday84 Awwww... thats cute you pick the loosers side :) Tukayyid Never forget...
@@AB-ln2py must love being @$$ pounded by the victors during the Jihad. Clan Wolf captured Terra and won.
@@Mrwednesday84 Pretty sure Operation SCOUR liberated Earth during Jihad, and that was coalition army...
And WOB is closer to clans than inner sphere anyway, both remanants of old SL, both lead by bumblefucks that changed normal people into psychos...
Can we just agree to disagree that all of this nonsense could’ve been prevented had Aleksandr Kerensky stuck around a bit longer/ had his damn son not been an egotistical nut basing their new groups off of failed pre-space flight Terran forms of rule that were oppressive and divisive?
That Hollander Artwork rocks!
Ever since i found the mech years ago i was a fan. I have always been a fan of a small mech that wraps aroind a huge freaking cannon.
I agree, glorified walking weapon systems are fantastic. More gun, less mech!
Hehehehe, kind of, *BOOM* "Surprise surprise surprise!"
I like these types of mechs. Long ago I was a fan of the Hunchback with its AC -20s.
I just recently got into mech building in megameklab, and your videos have influenced many of my designs. Hearing you in my head describe the trade offs of my mechs gives me a second perspective and I think makes them better. one in particular I have poured time into not just the design, but the fluff and lore. I went and found a planet and factory that could make it, and used existing equipment and parts available to that factory. I also wrote out capabilities and deployment histories for it and its variants; explaining the reason for its creation and its (potential) history in combat. It has flaws, it has strengths, but most of all it has character.
I used to do the same thing! You are a bit mote into the lore than I am though. I never looked up planets. ;)
I feel like the Hollander would have been an amazing opportunity to make a good 40 tonne 'mech! Use the extra tonnage into armour, a medium laser and a tonne of ammo or something.
Great video nonetheless Big Red. :)
I remember it in Mech Commander at the 2nd level ad ending mech. And was a worthy deadly adversary to deal with. Great video game memories
The Hollander should have been a quad mech. The stability and movement traits of a quad would have made this mech a monster to face
Lacks critical spaces.
@@BigRed40TECH good point. I didn’t think of that.
Still remember that moment in the original mech commander when I salvaged a pristine one of these. Its always held a place in my heart since.
I love this design for two reasons:
1) Clarity of Purpose. Take big gun to the front, and shoot things with it until you’re out of ammo. That’s it.
2) It looks cool. Almost animal.
Only downsides I can see: no backup weapon, and no jump jets. Even a couple small lasers for anti-infantry would be good.
The Hollander II should’ve perfected this design. An extra ten tons means more armor, a couple jump jets, a couple small lasers and bump the engine up a notch or two.
Loved this one. I was not super aware of the Hollander. Seems like a great equalizer.
All are made equal under the shade of a Gauss slug lol
@@BigRed40TECH amen to that.
I think I'm gonna need to get some of these - two of my favorite light designs are the panther and Valkyrie, and the Hollander is basically those, but with more gun. I... Think I might need to model this up and have a few. Hopefully we'll get CGL plastic soon
Unfortunately probably going to be years at the very least, what with it not being in the Mercenaries Kickstarter…
It's fine, we might be able to find a 3D model to print
@@MechInterest Strato Minis also has a great Hollander proxy.
Ah yes a weapon with legs. I love these kind of mechs, various Hollanders, Pack Hunters, and Legionnaires all see a lot of time on our table. Looking forward to the Hollander III video.
I have loved the Hollander since I first saw it in the TRO! I have not stopped loving it since buying the TRO and reading up on it. Great light mech paired with Commandos in a light hunter/killer lance. Plus I am an olde school Steiner guy. 20th Arcturan Guards the White Bears of Uther!
That art design is amazing!
Alan Blackweel's a great artist.
I'll never forget my first playtho of mechcommander and in one of if not the first mission you come across one of these little fuckers. I don't know why but damn near 1 shot my commando with after multiple more plays I can only say was a lucky shot but I always respected that big gun since
Loved the Hollander in Battletech (2018), unless I was facing it, then it became priority Target Number One. Awesome Video as always.
One of my favorite mechs, especially as a computer gamer, since Mechcommander. Salvaged on my first playthrough and Fell in love
One my favorites. This thing is terrific, light mech that punches way above its weight class. Love weapon platform mechs, especially the little guys. Like the Kit Fox with a gauss or an Urbanmech with an AC/20, it is simply good times.
The Hollander: The Ion Cannon Frigate in Homeworld brought to Battletech! :P
I've used the Hollander II in the first Mechcommander. Lotta boom for the size so it's a good, back line sniper.
Love the Hollander II
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BIG GUN ON LEGS YEAAAAAAAAAH!!!!! Honestly one of my favorites.
As someone who despises ammunition based weaponry with some minor exceptions (ac-2, lrms, and ac-20) I find myself actually liking this mech…yes it uses ammunition, yes it has a bomb strapped to the mech in the form of the Gauss rifle.
Regardless of all that, much like the AC-20 the fight ending potential of the Gauss rifle via headshot makes this mech always a worthwhile choice.
Honestly the only upgrade I would consider on the mech is the addition of an xl engine (normally a very bad idea) and reinvesting the saved weight into a bigger engine in order to give it more speed.
Now imagine a stealth armored Hollander, the terror of a gauss shot zipping out of the trees as it head clips your friend a hundred meters away
Needs an ECM, which is going to cost tonnage.
Suggest installing a Light Gyro, and possibly downgrading to a Light Cockpit. Although the Stealth system may well trap enough heat that you might be forced to install DHS.
I made one of these using a Cougar in MWO, it had basically no armor but it had Clan ECM and Clan Gauss. 10/10, love playing it.
Clan Gauss already shaves 3 tons.... would that and an XL do the trick?
@@bthsr7113 My thoughts - what's really holding this thing back (if it can be said to be held back at all) is the lack of advanced Clan tech.
*angry screams of dishonor*
At least when it runs out of bullets, it can still punch. Just wait for it to run across the map.
This would be very good for hull down ambushes too. That gun can pop over a hill, lock and fire, then drop down the reverse slope and change position. aka tank tactics.
If you have the time and extra man power to prepare the battlefield this could get even more terrifying.
I just found a Hollander in the Battletech PC game. Using the BTA 3062 Modset. It has an MRM-40 and 2 ER large Lasers. Vaporizes light mechs.
Well then,someone woke up and chose violence. I almost feed bad for what ever is downrange.
Imagine being a Mechwarrior on a mission and one of your homies just gets headclipped and looking at the source of the shot you just see this menace flipping you and your lance off to then scurry back into cover as it's allies engaged your lance.
and now imagine this little turd legging it in the style of BPL's "Charger Victory Lap"
Cheap, cheerful, and inexpensive, truly the Hollander is a great direct fire support mech
I call this mech - A Free Gauss Delivery service.
I'm surprised no one has put a RAC5 in one of them. Its one of my favourite (modded) MW5 lights. RAC5, 210XL Engine, 2 small lasers and 4 tons of ammo, drop ferro for standard, almost max armor, add an extra sink for the RAC5. Highly mobile BRRT.
that thing single handedly autocannonend my latest BTA run with a couple of mad as hell criticals. im still in newfound awe to the hollander
Love this mech! Makes so much sense especially against the clans. I really love the original artwork also.
Ah the Hollander when you need a big honking Gauss but forget that it needs ammo, and to this day I wonder why this never got the triple leg treatment because might have helped with stability.
Because more legs requires allocating more mass which the Hollander can't spare?
@@noppornwongrassamee8941 ah great now I can't thinking about a super heavy Hollander.
@@kythebengzon8023 A heavier chassis that is fully focused on the Improved Heavy Gauss Rifle or IHGR would be a good "Hollander but big" mech, IMO. I don't have a sheet for such a thing, but it wouldn't be all that hard to come up with, I think.
@@noppornwongrassamee8941 But part of the problem of too much mass is that the legs might not be capable to support it. Which would be moderated if the excess mass is actually caused by an additional leg that improves the mech's capability to bear its own weight. It's not additional mass caused by torso armor we'd be talking about here. And since legs move one by one, the engine/reactor being too small-bore would also be no problem - even more so when you can actually support _more_ mass and thus, a heavier reactor with an additional leg.
@Nopporn Wongrassamee plus there just wasn't rules for that when thus was made canon.
Great Video, BIg Red. I'm now the proud owner of two Hollanders. =)
My favorite Hollander refits are the ones that stuff it full of Clan weapons and electronics on an IS frame. A Clan ER PPC, a pair of Clan SSRM2s and a ton of ammo, IS TAG, Clan ECM/Probe, and a Clan Targeting Computer with IS Endo, maxed out Ferro, and Double Heat Sinks is a ferocious hunter-killer for under 3.5m C-bills. You could drop the electronics for a bigger engine or jump jets if you're into that, but I prefer them.
Love this mech. Favorite mech since I first discovered it in Mechcommander 2
Bless Coventry Metal Works and whatever shipment of good stuff helped them conceptualize a light 'mech with only one weapon, but making it the absolute best weapon ever designed. Not sure if they slipped off the tight rope to the side of madness or genius, but either way, what a machine.
Also, my first experience with the Hollander II was in Mechwarrior Living Legends. And I loved that thing.
I have a 3d printed Hollander that I painted like Seras Victoria from Hellsing Ultimate.
"B------ love cannons"
Brings new meaning (and unease) to "sniper squad".
Maintenance Tech: "For the last time we cannot reinstall your Hollander's Gauss Rifle from a shoulder mounting to hip mount. If you feel that inadequate buy a big truck or something like everyone else!"
Forgot this thing even existed, but I do remember someone saying that my 4 legged 100 ton Artillery/Aim support mech resembled it. I can see why and honestly I can tell where and why this thing would shine the brightest. Definitely something you want to use to protect your Artillery and hold the line at bay/coral the enemy as you pound then with the heavy stuff.
eventually I plan on rebuilding all of the TRO's Innershpehe mechs into full clan tech rebuilds.
The Hollander will be on that list, and I'm already thinking of how I'd configure it.
endo-steel, fero-fiberous, Clan XL, jump jets, Clanner Gauss Rifle, 2t ammo, and if there is any tonnage remaining, a few erml's and DHS for 'backup'
I wonder if there'll be enough tonnage for a Targeting Computer?
Part of the reason the Hollander is the way it is, is because its cheap XD
@BigRed40k part of the reason I'm single, is I am cheap...
This one sounds like a lot of fun to play on the tabletop.
What is my purpose?
To hurl chunks of metal
Oh my god
I feel like the Recoil of the gauss rifle would send the mech toppling over when in the pose from the artwork lol
I was bored and made a 60-ton Hollander IV variant. Same signal Gauss Rifle, and 2 tons of ammo, the improvements are an IS 325 Light Engine, 4 improved Jump Jets, compact Gyro, and armor marked up to 10 tons. For the cost of 11,320, 960 c-bills. This was funny because a friend of mine runs a VTTG and the players have 80-ton Clan mechs. They were stomping his missions. So he threw my Hollander IV at them and clipped two of the players 80-ton mechs out of their cockpits and they were forced to retreat from the mission for the first time. Thanks to the two clan mechs, They were stripped for another upgraded variant of the Hollander IV Variant. With a Clan XL 325 Engine, Clan endo steel, and Ferro-Fibrous, (Which knocked the tonnage usage down to 52 out of 60 tons and Crit slots to 63 out of 78.) With new C-DHS, C-Gauss rifle, 3 C-MED Pulse Lasers, and ECM. The mech's heat/cooling: 16/20 Thanks to these recovered Clan mechs, it was enough to retrofit 4 Hollander IV's mechs! lol, and yes they went up against the players and won 4 times in a row before the players just gave up on the mission to capture/destroy a HPG outpost. Out of the 4 retrofits on one was destroyed and another mech was half destroyed.
Awesome job. Tho I've never had great success playing the Hollander in games I've had much fun making opponents sweat it's head clipping ability
I really enjoy using my Hollander2 in MW5. Still in the beginning of the campaign on the DC/Rasalhague border.
Great video! I don't know why, but I've always had a sweet spot for the Hollander. 👍
Proof that the Lyrans are not alway incompetent and infact have some amazing light assets.
They built the Commando back in the early days.
@@bthsr7113 And the wonderful Wolfhound. A light mech par excellence.
I made one of these but with Clan tech using the Cougar in MWO, only addition it got was ECM.
Great Video, thanks! Sure would love a CGL miniature for this mech.
I think we'll see one within a couple years.
For me I think the Hollander is the reason why I have always had a love a single weapon platform mechs. Though for me at least I always want to strip one down so I can shove a Long Tom on the mech and keep it even further away from the enemy.
Yeah! Finally my favorite light mech!
Gotta respect the Gauss Rifle, even if it's the only thing the mech carries.
I remember picking up TRO 3055 back in the 90's and when I first gazed upon the Hollander and its Gauss rifle, my first thought was " Because we fucking can! ". Also a much better design than the Thunder.😜
Interesting stuff. I only knew of the Hollander as Sarna mentions the Blitzkrieg (a favourite of mine) as a replacement for the Hollander. I like the asymmetrical look of the Hollander👍
Faced a periphery force in BTA3062 featuring a Hollander variant with a Sniper Cannon. It rocked my Locust’s rear armor on a miss and caused me some inconvenience. And then it accidentally shot it’s own ally, a Panther… right in the back. The Panther survived but a little more punishment from me coerced the pilot into ejecting.
First time going over the TRO, the Hollander and the Venom became favorites that I would pair together. Even painted a company of mechs with those two in green and gold. At the time I didn't know anything about the factions and countered protests from my more learned battletech player by claiming it was a mercenary unit.
Nice light mech.
I recently had one of these in BTA 3062. It kicked a serious amount of ass for a long time until I got a royal champion with a gauss rifle.
Only popped a few cockpits with it over 40 or so missions, but that thing had a hatred for right arms. You could be on the left side of a cicada and still remove the right arm.
The Hollander: Because the urban mech is too slow, and the hunchback can't find AC20 ammo.
I've been replaying Mech Commander 2, and gotta say your video making me give it more respect than I had been in ignoring it.
I'm liking the artwork of the Hollander used in this video
Always liked the Hollander in TT...
Replaced the Gauss with Light Gauss, ammo up, armor up, and get to work. 😎👍
I just remember it as being THAT Mech from the first mission of Mech Commander so many restarts 😂
Hollander a good though niche weapons platform, I love deploy it in urban combat pair with some cheap bodyguard non mech ideally or in a position with other long range assets dug in, outside of that fire and maneuver. One time during a slog of a campaign loss the gauss rifle and replaced it with a AC 10, and then AC 5 when ammo ran dry for the 10. Performed very well, typically I would think about messing with the mech but this is one of the few mechs I wouldn't mess with if not forced to. Fighting it went against a Hollander Ace that was very unpleasant day saving grace it ran out of ammo and withdrew. The mech is an example of Lyran's making some of the best mechs outside of the heavier tonnage everyone sees them for.
I remember my first time whit the hollander. Going from: the hell is this thing to holly hit it just one shot an atlas.
Ever since then it will have my respect.
The hollander is one of the few mech that have the "honor" of being kill on sight no mather what
I love this mech so much now. Thank you.
It's a cannon on two legs...I love it!
Innovation: AKA: Slap a gauss rifle on it. Just gauss rifle, just gauss rifle.
Also make sure the Ammo can be quickly and easily ejected to make sure the machine doesn't suffer an internal ammo explosion.
Loved this thing in mech commander. Was always fun yeeting kit foxes across the map lol
Blackwell is a good artist and my favorite company located on Outreach.
This is like what I would have built if Mechwarrior was Chromehounds.
Now I know what I need 3D printed for my in game shipping company. Blast those pirates before they even get to see the loot they're after!
I always re-roll my starting mechs when beginning a new BTA playthrough until i get a Hollander. Dekker gets it and i make sure he don't ever die.
Currently playing a Battletech tabletop rpg. My merc company will probably be needing to buy a couple. Currently caught in the invasion corridor and all our guass rifles are on assault mechs. Through some AMAZING luck, we have a King Crab with double guass instead of the normal ac20. We were paid for one mission with a Royal SLDF Nightstar, a true relic with 2 guass rifles. And finally, we were scouted by some shady folks (probably Comstar) and had to duel the Dragoons. We beat them and forced a surrender. (Only 2 Dragoon pilots suvived engaging us) We got a Mad 5b out of it.
Ah the Hollander. Doesn't pretend to be anything other than what it is. Good, honest mech design.
I'm surprised they didn't center the weapon on quad legs, or something similar for stability. Hell, make an eight leg spider mech.
It needs too many crit spaces to put on a quad frame. Lose FF and you could do it
@@joecosta2645 Then it becomes even more fragile.
@@bthsr7113 true, but it would be the only way to make it a quad. Reminds me of the Hussar in that regard
Gun on legs is peak mech design aesthetic.
Battlemech embodiment of monitor ship principles.
I remember when TR3055 was released and loved this mech. I would put a pair in a Support Lance with a couple Grim Reapers. Lots of Long-Range Destruction! Especially if they are piloted by Mechwarriors with high gunnery.
Brutal.
I like this mech so much I did a pirate Frankenmench knockout of it using Javelin chassis with a Shadow Hawk shoulder cannon (MW5).
FYI, the newly released Record Sheets: 3150 has the sheet for the BZK-G2 Hollander.
Yea, I saw. Hilarious isn't it? lol