I have to say, one of the things I wasn't expecting from this was ATC. The guy that was communicating with 238 seemed to understand that the pilots were in a stressful situation and was giving them a lot of freedom of choice for what to do next to help ease their nerves a bit. The pilots did great, but also respect to that ATC, he did an excellent job.
Thank you. You analyzed all the given information, and it appears that you rightly concluded that just because one engine fails, it doesn't mean something bad will happen. Kudos! (and please take this as a compliment. lol)
All transport category aircraft are certified to continue flight with an engine failure at the most critical time (V1) and clear all obstacles along the departure path up to 1500’ above field elevation. Although an engine failure is a serious problem, all transport pilots are trained to fly the aircraft with an engine failure at or after V1. All aircraft with this engine type were grounded and required to have the fan blades inspected. A design flaw with the engine cowls has kept the aircraft grounded until the cowl is improved so it will contain the failure.
I'm totally agree with Joe *We are far away from single pilot cockpits* The way the pilots dealt with this situation was *REMARKBLE* Thank you Joe for your professional clear explanation !!!
We should never have single pilot cockpits. I'd be happier with the pilots being in a simulator flying from a distance than with there being only one!!!!
What is the risk of of a pilot becoming disabled by disease or death while flying? I'm sure it has been calculated to the umteenth decimal by insurance companies. What is the risk of the same happening to two pilots on the same flight, absent other factors such as fire, piracy, etc.? So many aircraft systems have redundancy for safety, it would be stupid to have a cockpit with only one pilot. The insurance premium for a single pilot cockpit should exceed a pilot's salary.
Honestly we design for separations more rigorously. Engines will lose blades. We plan for it. Meltdowns are a “worst case scenario” they hope never to see.
@@jpoeng I recall helping my brother fit a "scatter shield" around the flywheel of his racing car engine. It was made of 8mm bullet-resistant aluminium. If the flywheel shattered at high revs, it would shred the driver. Shield was required by the rules, as this was also a known, although somewhat unlikely event.
@@77gravity Yeah, we do some similar things. Turbine discs have the most mass, and containment of a disc rupture would be very tough. But, we designed the rotors to ‘clash’ - interfere with each other & slow down an over speeding rotor. The fan has its Kevlar containment belt. The compressor rotor is a drum, rather than a disc, so little blades get liberated, but not big pieces.
@@UHK-Reaper 😁 Aww, you say the sweetest things! 😆 The commercial fans are a lot lower RPM, and have a lot more room between the blades, so it takes something pretty big to break a blade. The ones I was on were bird strikes. The HPC is moving a lot faster of course, so a washer in the wrong spot can cause an HCF failure very quickly sometimes. On the military side, with a low bypass turbofan, the fan is more like a LPC & can get FOD’ed out much more easily.
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The amazing thing about the whole incident is everyone was calm. From camera guy no shaking/screaming/shaking to the pilot going through the lists to the tower staff talking them down. Seriously nice to see and hear pros at work.
These people are so lucky they had someone that could stay calm and handle the situation. The training these pilots receive is top notch as they always have so many lives in their hands. Great job pilots!
The calmness of both the pilots and air traffic control in such a nail biting situation is particularly impressive and outstanding!! How they were able to remain so calm is simply beyond my imagination. Great work!!!
Maybe they can remain so calm because they can’t even see the engines from the cockpit. It. Mr. Bayo, Suppose you are in the cockpit, and you know one of the biggest threat to safety of flight is a catastrophic engine failure. Wouldn’t you want to see the engines visually. This could easily be done with a couple of cameras on each side of the plane, tiny little pinhole cameras in the fuselage would show the front of the engine and the back of each engine. Why in the hell the manufacturers of airliners don’t provide the pilots with video of the engines is beyond my comprehension. I swear to God this is the stupidest industry in the world. Furthermore, nowadays, even automobiles are becoming fully automated, a much more difficult scenario than fully automated airplanes. But the airline pilots union has a stranglehold around the neck of the airlines, and they prevent for automation and therefore reduce the safety of flight. More than 60 years ago, The airplanes that I worked on in the Air Force were fully automated fighter aircraft, they did not need a pilot at all and they had a much more difficult mission then flying from one city to the next. But the flight industry is full of proud idiot pilots, from the military to civilian aviation, and they all want to be in control when in fact the pilot is always the weakest link in the system. Lest Anyone think I am envious, I myself am a pilot, and I am also an engineer that has designed and built components for aircraft, Rockets, you name it. It is long overdue that we get the monkey out of the cockpit and let the computers do what they do best, automation, with quick reaction and basically no errors. It is long overdue that we get the monkey out of the cockpit and let the computers do what they do best, automation, with quick reaction and basically no errors. If you watch the myriad of videos showing analysis of airplane crashes, you will find that 90% are due to pilot error. Those are errors that would not have happened with automation. That means when we get automation we will have a 10 fold reduction in accidents and deaths.
@@steveperreira5850 you dont have to see everything to fly the plane, instruments are made to be used instead of vision, that gives very little in most of the time flying. There is no case to have live video of the engines, other than assuming you need to see what is going on, what is false while piloting comercial aircrafts, and being a pilot yourself, you should know that. With everything else, I have no idea on why automation is not used more, but in the situation of the video, there are probably independent systems with independent sensors, so having redundancy is a lot harder, and the thing gluing those systems is the pilot doing the checklists. If the machine senses a fire in an engine, uses the first fire extinguisher, it fails, the sensors that determine existence of fire melt or get destroyed, or any other reason, the plane thinks the fire is off, and time for brandy! The amount of edge cases a *HUMAN* yould have to write logic for, is much more complex than a human doing a checklist. A solution could be to train machines, or make machines train themselves to manage the systems, but then you still have one centralized system and a virtual actor that is as vulnerable as the first fire extinguisher I'm a software engineer, not an aeronautic one, so I know software is very fragile, so fragile even a nasa vehicle was totaled by bad coded math (imperial/metric mixmash), an old chemotherapy (cannot remember the name) literally removed every hardware security measure and implemented software scurity measures and checklists and people literaly died of radiation poisoning by bad made software. And every industry is vulnerable, every company, from nasa to a small software factory, every person is imperfect. The notion that we should stop doing stuff we cannot do perfectly because a machine can is an old mindset. Moreso when the premise of a system doing something a human can do better, when the thing the human is doing is dealing with a broken system Assembly lines? Packaging? Organizing? sure, some implementations may even have 99% success with some redundancy. Never perfect. Now, flying a plane? doing surgery? writing an essay? designing for humans? *NO*, no when we, as imperfect humans code them, nor when they code themselves with deep learning. Never if the premise is that the machine will do it perfectly in comparison with a human. We are not there yet. And we cannot trust machines to do it, still. There is a reason tesla doesnt encourage getting off the wheel, or text, while in the road, even with auto-pilot on. As it takes one literally random human error to potentialy kill someone, because the machine will not adapt to a logical malfunction, not yet at least, and a person can, and will adapt to a faulty machine if it is trained to do so. I liked your rant so I ranted back
I looked at the picture of the engine cowling in the yard and all I could think of, beyond being thankful no one was hurt, was "Honey, you know that fire pit you've been after me to build? The ring just arrived air express..."
As an aircraft mechanic myself, this video is spot on in describing what happened in the cockpit, communication with ground control and possible cause of the failure.
I assumed our aviation industry, pilots, crew, traffic controllers ,etc are very competent and capable. But I never realized how great these people really are. Outstanding team work and an amazing analysis by captain Joe. I just subscribed and can’t wait to watch more. It makes me feel very proud of our airline industries in the free world. 2 pilots are a must.
Captain Joe understands that there are verbal, visual and mixed learners. Thus he encompasses all 3 styles into his presentations. As a veteran of 8.25 million miles flown I would be happy to see him as my pilot or First Officer.
I think he uses the concept "standing on the shoulders of titans" and also building the legacy of aircraft operations throughout the decades learning what works, and what doesn't work. Some of the stuff crews did 50 or more years ago had moments of "WTF were they thinking."
I felt like crying. There are so many brilliant people in the world doing absolutely mind bogglingly brilliant things every day, and all we ever hear about is idiots and politicians and murderers. Thank you Captain Joe. And thank you to all his ‘colleagues’!
S-OTV, It sure seems like that ! Like you, I'm done hearing about all the negative, ridiculous crap going on. There absolutely are many brilliant people, doing amazing, courageous, selfless things, every day. Lets hear more about the positive. Events and individuals that help move our civilization forward. Thank you for the honest and thought provoking comment. Be well.
Same happened in the Netherlands a day prior! a 747-400 (cargo /Longtail Aviation) also lost engine parts, injuring 2 on the ground (this was closer to take off, since ATC, informed the pilots that the engine was showing fire) Pratt & Whitney P&W4000 engine used in both planes. Before that, in December, a 777 (Japanese Airlines) also had an engine blowout with that same engine.
@@breezyweasel but engineers earn 30-50 t a year and some people which can only kick the ball earn >100t a week = world is crazy upside down and very corupt
Joe, I'm an Airman. Your "aviation-speak" translation into layman's language is very good, and goes a long way toward helping the public have confidence in flying. Nicely done!
Marines often use Chuck Yeager's quote because they frequently have reason to, whether by helicopter, C130, or C5, they are taken to places that aircraft shouldn't land, even the helicopters (such as mountain sides and naval vessels).
Watching a lot of these videos how pilots handle emergencies, a line from NCIS LA comes up. When a newbie fieldagent had her first mission, after the mission (which went succesfully after a few hitches) her colleagues debrief her in a social manner. Then she says on the question how she knew what to do, she simply says: Trust your training. That is exactly what @captainJoe, @74gear and @mentourpilot always say. Your training is your basis.
Well trained pilots doing exactly what they are trained to do and returning to the airport and landing is the normal outcome from an event like this. We do this in the sim over and over and over. Does scare the crap out of the passengers and makes the news media go nuts calling pilots heroes for doing what they get paid for.
@@donluego9448 A pilot or anyone else who is doing what they are trained to do as a job is not a hero for doing that job. It downplays real a hero . A hero is someone who goes above the call of duty or the job and risks their own life to save someone. Pilots flying an airplane with an emergency are just doing what they are trained to do.
A decade ago I read the The Checklist Manifesto and author Atul Gawande discussed at great length pilots checklists - I learned so much and have implemented a lot of that into my personal and professional life. Preparing for all outcomes, having procedures in place, whether in the air, in the surgical theatre, managing events, etc, will save lives. So much credit to these pilots and crew who were so prepared. Just amazing. Thank you for walking us through step by step of how it went!
I am learning to fly. The first thing my instructor told me about was checklists! He flew commercial jets round the world for 30 years but he does or watches me doing all the items on each lis every time we fly. By my third lesson I was expected to know the airborne checklists from memory. I realised how important and I bought 'The Checklist Manifesto' as a consequence - excellent book! Safety is lost if we get complacent or distracted.
@Jessica Wagers - I had a completely different takeaway. A seriously unfortunate thing happened, and the people and systems worked great to keep everyone safe. It increases my confidence that the people (crews, controllers) are prepared, and the aircraft are robust.
@Jessica Wagers I can understand the fear, but I'd suggest that you shouldn't let it keep you from flying. Planes are machines, and like any machine, they can sometimes have a malfunction. Take your car, for example. If the tire blows out while you're driving, that can be scary in the moment, but you get the tire replaced, and you continue driving. In this situation, the plane had a malfunction, but everyone involved brought the plane to a safe landing, and all is well.
The chances of them ever experiencing a flight incident are pretty much zero after experiencing one. They're playing with house money for the rest of their lives!
@Jessica Wagers flying is the safest way to make miles (apart from trains). Per hour is as safe as driving. Biking is (per hour) double as dangerous. Data from The Netherlands (Holland) about two decades ago. I biking got worse.
non normal is different from emergency. Because the aircraft can fly with just 1 engine, its not an emergency. It is urgent, hence why the first 5 steps are memory steps, so that you can stop it becoming an emergency. It is non normal, because while you don't operate the aircraft with 1 engine, you still have options. In this case they had just taken off so they were very close to the airport. If they were mid flight, they would use this opportunity to assess their options, ie, divert to another airport, attempt a restart (unlikely in a fire), or continue to the destination. An emergency check list would be along the lines of full power loss on both engines.... because you are out of other options and you are landing immediately.
@@FlyingHangman Having an engine failed on a two engine aircraft is an emergency. We would not consider landing at the destination unless it was the “nearest suitable” airport. As the first commenter stated, Boeing has Normal, and Non-Normal checklists. Every conceivable emergency is covered by a Non-Normal checklist. Any Non-Normal situation can be considered an emergency. Anything that increases workload, or diminishes aircraft capability can be an emergency.
As many people are saying how “lucky” this was, the engines are literally designed to handle this sort of failure, and the remaining engine is designed to provide sufficient power to climb out (if needed) and circle around for landing on one engine.
this is not normal single engine situation which every plane pass the ETOPS test can handle,the parts of engine may hit the wing and fuel tank.remember the QF72,engine parts destroy fly controll system on wing and fuel tank
So glad to hear everyone made it back onto the ground safe and sound. Great work by the pilots, crew and everyone involved! I would be absolutely terrified as a passenger to say the least.
This actually shows how safe flying is now. Even in a major engine failure, the checklist worked, the engine still held on and did not destroy the wing, pilots kept in control of the situation and could easily fly back and land safely. That is very reassuring even if it is a scary event.
@@peterpim6260 You'd be wrong. From what I read, most of them got on the next flight available. They decided they "won" that lottery already so the chances of the same thing happening were very slim. And, umm..., Hawaii!
no. bad decisions were made. 1. by turning left they went over a densely populated area to get back to the airport. a crash would've killed people on the ground. 2. their circle back to the airport was really long. why didn't they go straight back and land against take off direction, with the airport shutting down all outgoing traffic. i'd have been mad if i was on that plane or on the ground under it. they didn't make the best possible decisions.
@@fredsmith6324 From the analysis, it sounds like they followed all proper procedures and training. 1. The left turn was due to the right engine being out. The pilots, at this point, were not away of the exact condition of the engine apart from it being on fire and disabled. Turning in the direction of the failed or damaged engine is a greater risk due to the increased drag and unknown characteristics. The pilots knew that a left turn could be completed safely with the systems they had operational. A right turn might have caused additional failures. Turning on the active engine would seem like the safer option and there was no hesitation in doing so. 2. As the video shows, the pilots had to run through their checklists. Aviate comes first - they need to know which systems are operational and take into account fuel, weight, etc. for an emergency landing. Once they stabilised the plane, they can the navigate. The landing was performed calmly and smoothly, and the passengers were clearly elated by the performance of the pilots. In the end, they got the plane on the ground and no souls were lost. They did far better than what most of us would do.
Beyond clearing traffic, what else would there be?? Arrivals could be told to go around, and departures sent to another runway. Seeing as they took off from 25 and landed 26, they landed with traffic, so other planes were landing on 26 could’ve gone around to the N-S runways that were being used for landing. At Denver, the only runways that are sometimes used for both are 17R and 34R. 7/25 and 8/26 work in tandem, if 7 is landing, 8 is for takeoffs, and reverse for opposite wind, 25 for takeoff, 26 for landing. I’m assuming they do this, so on landing you end up closer to the terminal, and don’t have to taxi very far for takeoff. It’s one of the reasons I like that airport so much, and it’s only ever taken me 30 minutes from walking in the front door until I’m at my gate.
They will do this for any emergency aircraft. Technically the pilot doesn’t even need a clearance and can land on any runway once he declares emergency. That being said, it’s best to work with ATC to do things in an organized manner. I fly Cessnas and have declared emergency once and got the same treatment from ATC.
They will have procedures in place anyway to ensure the aerodrome is as clear as possible for any aircraft declaring an emergency. But it must have been made easier by Covid and the fact there are less flights as a result.
My brother is a United Airlines Captain and this video shows why he is deservedly proud of his airline. Captain Joe did a fine job highlighting the professionalism of this cockpit and cabin crew, and the air traffic control team supporting them during this inflight emergency.
@@derekhall2079 You can do all the maintenance checks and preventative maintenance checks you want, that doesn't mean a problem won't arise. Your comment is stupid and ignorant.
Thats the reason i have the highest amount of respects for the airline pilots all around the world ❤️ thank u for keeping us safe while being a true professional!
I just want to say Captain Joe, I have been watching you since the start and you raised me as an aviation enthusiast and now I am beginning flight lessons. Thank you so much :)
Why don't you also thank all the computers that have handled your comment for their ability in 'dealing with this' ? To them, It's no different, they've just changed checklists mid flight. No big deal. #TRAINING
Ditto to the cabin crew. I have personally experienced quick, appropriate, and effective responses from United flight attendants when I fell ill on a very turbulent ATL-IAH flight (not airsickness but acute pre-travel fatigue & dehydration). I hate sardine can travel but love to fly--next time I'll do my part as a passenger and be in good shape to board.
I witnessed the plane shortly after it initiated the left turn. It was coming towards me from the north in a gentle bank and descending through a cloud layer. The plane was much lower than would be normal in that location. At first I thought I was just seeing a condensation trail but quickly realized it was smoke. As it passed overhead I could see a bright orange flame coming from what appeared to be the lower right side of the cowling approximately 5 to 10 feet from the rear of the engine. The cowling was still intact as far as I could see at that point. The plane continued its turn until it was heading back east toward the airport. I continued to visually follow it and approximately 30 to 60 seconds later there was a large puff of smoke at which point it appeared the engine had exploded. I continued to visually follow it until I could no longer see it.
_there was a large puff of smoke at which point it appeared the engine had exploded_ That late in the sequence, what you saw was most likely the FIRE EXTINGUISHER system being deployed... but we'll find out for sure in about 18 months, when the NTSB gets done plotting the debris "field" and issues their final report.
@@MajorCaliber You're saying after they received the fire alarm, declared an emergency, turned to head back to the airport and probably 2-4 minutes had passed, then they would deploy the extinguisher? That doesn't seem a reasonable explanation. The explosion was the same as seen in the dash cam, I was just closer to it. The cowling was intact when the plane flew over me.
Intuation ,common sense, and a good feel of what is happening around you is ever, a common person's guide to potential alarm !!! After take off and clearance to walk around on board inside my national carrier in my youth ,enrought to europe from east africa, I looked out long an hard through a porthole , and noticed a very long left turn , and dip to the left over what looked like a country along the upper nile !!! The nausea, and dizziness,was characteristic, of sudden descent, and yawing ,from previous experience too !!! Looking at the progress monitor on the next seat ,this looked like a very unusual directional turn ,assuming that the tragectory co ordinates, were meant to be maintained on a certain straight flight path ahead !! I went to the the head pursuer and inquired, why we seamed to be heading back , and got a hushed reply that I was to head back to my seat, and not let anyone know what was now privately confirmed !!! After a somewhat irritated assurance, that everything was ok , I did as I was told ........... Only to hear in onother 30 minutes that we would be landing at our previous departure !!! Nobody else had noticed anything to the end ,and there was astonishment to say the least !!! After disembarking, while at the departure gate to reboard again for the same journey, I got a personal little conversation from the cockpit crew, this is how it went !!! ' are you studying aviation abroad .....? We are told you are one to watch out for though ! Can now let you know that we had to return , because the autopiloting failed ! Usually we fly planes, where passengers snore from one point to onother , but when we have a keen eye amongst them we take notice !!!!!! Now board and let the cabin crew, give you some further instructions , about an hour after take off '!!!! Well folks nothing prepared me for the next thing ! In those non Kevlar cockpit door days , my 22 year old self, was ushered onto the jam seat , behind the captain for the rest of an eight hour flight,and it was delightful to arrive at heathrow at night !! I learned about separation standard, outer markers , spiraling in and everything in-between!!! For a student mastering in business studies in London, I felt a calling, for aviation in scotland !!! Well, about thirty years on , my son did go to Perth , for his aviation training , and I own a travel agency, ! Who would have thought that the aeroplane ✈️🛫, would be at the center of our lives as fate has had it, today !!!!!
Usually the case, a broken fan blade. With all that shaking, I wouldn't trust that pylon. They're lucky the fan blade didn't shoot off into the side of the aircraft and kill passengers. Reminds me of the flight 232 disaster. Great video!
it's not really luck when only 15-30 out of 360 degrees has a possibility of killing a passenger and even then the wing could've stopped it. it would require very precise geometry of the impact to hurt anyone. So statistically speaking, it's very unlikely.
@@PeachyTech Yes, luckily the odds are low, but it can and has happened. There was an incident years ago with Delta, the fragments made a hole in the aircraft and killed 2 people.
Thank you for the kind words for our great investigators at the NTSB. They are truly wonderful people and deserve a lot more recognition than what they do get
ok i know it's a joke, but i really hope no one is thinking you can become a pilot by watching youtube videos. there is much more to know and learn. of course captain joe shows you the cool stuff but there is also a tonne of theory that is extremely boring.
Wow .... respect to the pilots, crew ATC & passengers in this astonishingly eventful & frightening flight ...... & thank you Cpt Joe for taking the time to walk / talk us through the procedures that helped save the lives of so many people ✈️💯
I am a new student pilot (at 55 yrs old) and really appreciate what all of the men and women did throughout the entire group of people involved. Thank you for the explanation and analysis.
My Father was both a Pilot and Retired Air Force Officer, I remember him saying that Flying was 99% boredom punctuated by 1% Stark Terror. Great overview of the situation involving this in-flight emergency.
Sounds like everyone worked brilliant on that day and even the passenger were fantastic. I love it when things come together. We really need each other.
When such an event happens do the pilots and crew get a compulsory holiday period to cool off and attend an internal mental health advisor / doctor etc?
@@dr.eckschwein1062 Yes, receive time off. I was involved in an engine failure incident right after takeoff. Once we were back on the ground, and in the flight planning office, the on call duty pilot called and said to take time off. I was told to call back when I was ready, and that it was a standard procedure, not punitive in any way. There is a non zero amount of PTSD associated with such events.
as long as the engine does explode and damage cabin / wing the fuel is fine. wing damage both internal /external are scary af tho (honestly scarier than engine failure.
A very good video. The crew of United were exceptional. The danger arose and it was dissipated by the book. ATC were fantastic in their ability to minimise transmissions letting the pilots sort the problem. Congratulations to all for the professionalism and safe outcome.
Captain Joe, like most people I had a terrible fear of flying. Watching videos of disasters and saying "I'll never fly again" to myself. You relieved a huge fear of flying in me. Explaining in common sense wording all the redundant systems that planes carry, all the training, and so many other things I never knew. Just flew from JFK to San Juan PR. It was a breeze. You videos should be available in all airports everywhere. Thanks Again.
“Single pilot cockpit on passenger and cargo planes”! Has that even been proposed? If so, I’m shocked, because it goes against the redundent systems philosophy in aviation. I’m no pilot, but have hundreds of thousands of miles as a business passenger. I am a critical care nurse and have volunteered and participated in several over water medical emergencies aboard flights. During these events I was required to communicate complex information in person to the Captain whilst I was attending to my patient (once I actually had three simultaneous, separate patients on a single overwater flight) so he could make critical decisions with regards to his flight plan; eg. “ Do we need to set it down in Greenland, shoot for Heathrow or continue on to Frankfurt?” How could this happen successfully with a single pilot cockpit? The Captain was required to leave the cockpit under another pilots control whilst I reported my findings to the Captain and assisted him with running potential scenarios by providing him with information to permit him to make critical benefit/risk assessments. I simply can’t imagine any scenario that would cause me to entertain the idea of a ”single pilot cockpit” on ANY flight where the wheels are off the tarmac. Please tell me this is not even a consideration in the aviation world?
it is. and due to increased capability of pilot information systems and automation. plenty of articles out there on it to. however as you say the argument always coems back to pilot and cabin managment in serious none automatable scenarios.
I find that pilots under the stress of an emergency almost never use the standard Mayday Mayday Mayday + callsign + nature of emergency + intention. They always say something like "Mayday Mayday aircraft", or "declarin' an emergency". idk I know their all valid, but I just find it strange.
@@TheMatsushitaMan There are two that I know of, the debris falling from the sky taken by a family on the ground, and the one being filmed by whoever was at the window seat onboard.
Way back in the 90s I had a first officer who had been stationed in Germany in the air force (he was an F-15 driver) and he answered "Wunderbar" to just about everything.
I live in Broomfield. I was sitting in my apartment watching youtube when this happened. When I heard the big boom I thought for sure it was a fighter jet that had broken the sound barrier or something (there are always fighter jets coming in and out of the Broomfield airport) I looked out my window and saw this passenger plane way up in the sky and was like huh that was weird....only later did I find out that airplane parts were falling out of the sky near me. Pretty awesome that these planes can have an engine explode and still be able to fly
Fighter jets aren't allowed to break the sound barrier around people idek if they can do it on us soil because it causes health problems like headaches and miscarriages They usually do it in the ocean because of this
@@bobthebuilder1360 That all depends on the altitude those sonic booms happen, the frequency of them and time they happen. High alt sonic booms should not have any adverse effects on humans. While low frequent low alt sonic booms can induce stress, miscarriages and cardiac problems.
@@CathyInBlue redundancy. Aircraft carry more than one of each type of onboard systems. The fly-by-wire systems on some aircraft have, I believe, three flight control computers. One fails, the other two take over. If you’ve been on an aircraft and heard the “barking dog” sound, that’s part of the redundancy of the three hydraulic systems. Multiple pitot/static systems for speed and altitude readings. Sadly, there have been incidents where the redundancy didn’t work, the 737 Max crashes, which were a problem with the software and some lack of training of the pilots. This aircraft could have easily flown with one engine inoperative albeit with reduced performance. They’re extensively tested before receiving final certification. Gives the pilots the time needed to work the problem and get to a safe landing.
It is nice to think that, but they are trained for their entire career to deal with that, i bet at least 90% would stay relativly calm in that situation and it would be unfair to give them a raise due to a random event😅 Imagine the pilots bribing the ground crew to fuck up the airplane beforehand to get a raise😂
@@lucaberger8344 Even so, there’s a difference between training for it in the simulator, where you can try the exercise over and over and over again, and facing the real-world situation, where decisions you make can make the difference between a safe landing and ending up smashing into a Denver suburb and exploding into a gigantic fireball. While uncontained engine failures aren't catastrophic, they are still a situation, and they need to be dealt with.
If I owned that house, I would've walked outside, seen the shroud, and instantly would've thought "damn kids, and their pranks are getting out of control!"
I would have walked out, saw the cowel and thought " oooooh what can I make with that aviation grade alloy" and by tea time I'd have a room size grow light shade 🤣💪 🤣💚
@@bjaarki honestly I am not sure why but I have heard it everywhere that the A380 is the only super heavy. Now, it may be because the Antiniov 225 is one of it's kind. But, it definitely should be if it isn't already.
A 747 also lost parts of it's engine flying over the south of the Netherlands today. Happened just after take off as well. A woman on the ground got hurt.
Pilots said that they got a bit rusty during pandemic. I think regular maintenance didn't happen in the planes as well as pilots didn't get some reintroduction in the meantime. Component failure is quite rare in aviation and generally happens due to mismanagement. At least we have pilots who have cool nerves.
Takes me back to the Twilight Zone episode where Bob Wilson just recovered from a nervous breakdown on the plane seeing the gremlin attacking the jet engine.
The fire extinguisher doesn’t go into the “turbine “ it goes into the engine nacelle, since that had been blown away the extinguisher won’t have any effect. That is why the fire didn’t go out. Otherwise good video.
Mr Spooner, you are quite right about where the firex bottles are located/discharged - generally in the Core cowl, since it's a designated fire fire zone (with potential for presence of fuel vapors and with HPT case temperature generally exceeding autoignition temperature of the fuel air mixture; unlike the situation in either the fan or trans cowl, where fuel vapors aren't present, and skin temperature of the engine case thereunder is significantly lower.
Most jet engines inject halon or similar simultaneously throughout the engine (most of which is turbine) from the pylon, not from the cowl as that would be expected to get smashed up in a failure. Technically it's all in the nacelle and the nacelle is needed to contain it for it to be maximally effective. But he's not wrong in what he said.
Thank you for the SANE and RATIONAL report on this incident over Denver in stark contrast to the near death and catastrophic reports of the main stream media. Yes this was a serious situation but the well trained pilots handled it very well. The passengers were never in any serious danger and the plane landed safely.
Not really true, that engine could have sent parts into the cabin and killed passengers which happened a couple years ago. Not to mention an engine exploding could also damage the wing and affect lift or start a larger fire. The reason this was no big deal is thank God the worst case scenario didn't happen.
@@logdon17 I am not talking about what could have happened. I am talking about what actually happened but the news media is blowing it into this huge story about how close to death they came and how the evil Boeing and United companies deliberately caused this to happen because they are evil corporations.
@@MrREH1962 I heard more about Ted Cruz going to Mexico than I did about this story which also could have killed people on the ground from the falling debris. If anything, this story has zero political angle which is why it was buried.
“Never in any serious danger” “Mainstream media” Its idiots like you that were responsible for the prior 4 years of anti-intellectualism making decisions for others. An engine failure is EXTREMELY dangerous and if it werent...they would have kept flying to Hawaii dont you think?...oh thats right...you dont! Do everyone a favor and dont opine on things that affect others...
“Good checklists, on the other hand, are precise. They are efficient, to the point and easy to use even in the most difficult situations. They do not try to spell out everything - a checklist cannot fly a plane. Instead they provide reminders of only the most critical and important steps - the ones that even the highly skilled professionals could miss. Good checklists are, above all, practical.”
I can almost hear the long silence followed with the "what did you say" question, when you call your insurance company to tell a part of an airplane fell on your house/car.
Brilliant walk through and analysis of what happened - and kudos to everyone involved for handling this so damn well. But, damn, that is an ancient plane...
Great explanation, factual and on key. I flew the 777 for 21 years at American as a Line CKA, over 17,000 hrs in type 200-300 great plane. Doodoo happens. Thats why we brief on every Takeoff, plan for an engine failure so there are no surprises. Every landing brief a Go Around that way again, No surprises. Look forward to following you.
The real MVP is old mate who filmed from inside the plane in landscape mode.
Truth
Yeah truth, normies just gonna panic or film in normal mode and yell “I got that on cam!” And no one can see a thing after that
Do we just not film in landscape due to phones ? Landscape
Is betterz
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How old is he?
Was just informed of this incident by the pilots father. He is a retired pilot. And is so very proud of his sons professional action. Bravo!!
I have to say, one of the things I wasn't expecting from this was ATC. The guy that was communicating with 238 seemed to understand that the pilots were in a stressful situation and was giving them a lot of freedom of choice for what to do next to help ease their nerves a bit. The pilots did great, but also respect to that ATC, he did an excellent job.
Great comment. I was also impressed with the ATC.
Well, pilot called mayday, so that's to be expected...
When a pilot calls mayday, ATC should free up as many options as possible. Pilots calling mayday need to be able to do whatever they need to do.
It is a common practice to give the most possibble freedom to the pilot of a mayday aircraft.
I've been watching these for a few years. ATC had gotten soooooooo much better over the last 2 years.
Made me even more confident as a flying passenger.
Thank you. You analyzed all the given information, and it appears that you rightly concluded that just because one engine fails, it doesn't mean something bad will happen. Kudos! (and please take this as a compliment. lol)
All transport category aircraft are certified to continue flight with an engine failure at the most critical time (V1) and clear all obstacles along the departure path up to 1500’ above field elevation. Although an engine failure is a serious problem, all transport pilots are trained to fly the aircraft with an engine failure at or after V1.
All aircraft with this engine type were grounded and required to have the fan blades inspected. A design flaw with the engine cowls has kept the aircraft grounded until the cowl is improved so it will contain the failure.
Fantastic analysis and explanation as always!!👏🏻👏🏻
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Victor gran trabajo
What's our vector, Victor?
oh hey vasa.
Hey VASA love the content I spend way to long watching your videos 😂
The professionalism displayed here by everyone involved was amazing.
I'm totally agree with Joe *We are far away from single pilot cockpits*
The way the pilots dealt with this situation was *REMARKBLE*
Thank you Joe for your professional clear explanation !!!
We should never have single pilot cockpits. I'd be happier with the pilots being in a simulator flying from a distance than with there being only one!!!!
What is the risk of of a pilot becoming disabled by disease or death while flying? I'm sure it has been calculated to the umteenth decimal by insurance companies. What is the risk of the same happening to two pilots on the same flight, absent other factors such as fire, piracy, etc.? So many aircraft systems have redundancy for safety, it would be stupid to have a cockpit with only one pilot. The insurance premium for a single pilot cockpit should exceed a pilot's salary.
bring back the in flight engineer!
@@maxpenn6374 near 0. But the possibility still exists
I’ve been flying for 8 years and I’ve experienced pilot incap twice.
I once read a comment from an engineeer: "We study blade separations the way that nuclear scientists study meltdowns."
Honestly we design for separations more rigorously. Engines will lose blades. We plan for it. Meltdowns are a “worst case scenario” they hope never to see.
@@jpoeng I recall helping my brother fit a "scatter shield" around the flywheel of his racing car engine. It was made of 8mm bullet-resistant aluminium. If the flywheel shattered at high revs, it would shred the driver. Shield was required by the rules, as this was also a known, although somewhat unlikely event.
@@77gravity Yeah, we do some similar things. Turbine discs have the most mass, and containment of a disc rupture would be very tough. But, we designed the rotors to ‘clash’ - interfere with each other & slow down an over speeding rotor. The fan has its Kevlar containment belt. The compressor rotor is a drum, rather than a disc, so little blades get liberated, but not big pieces.
@@UHK-Reaper 😁 Aww, you say the sweetest things! 😆
The commercial fans are a lot lower RPM, and have a lot more room between the blades, so it takes something pretty big to break a blade. The ones I was on were bird strikes. The HPC is moving a lot faster of course, so a washer in the wrong spot can cause an HCF failure very quickly sometimes. On the military side, with a low bypass turbofan, the fan is more like a LPC & can get FOD’ed out much more easily.
In nuclear, missile loads are taken very seriously yes
"Good training and constant practice is key here", back to my MS flight sim..
some ideas for a better planet
Matthew 5: 27-28
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
Luke 17:1
And he said to his disciples, “Temptations to sin are sure to come, but woe to the one through whom they come!
better stop producing / uploading / watching "music videos".. (or similar videos, pics, profile pictures, thumbnails, title names, headlines, usernames + harmful comments, bad words, swearing, lies, disrespect, harmful lyrics etc! on social media + everywhere else too.
"Temptations to sin" / seduction etc. must stop)
start deleting? censoring etc?
destroy your smartphones, cams, data storage devices etc? would be better.
remove temptations / seduction + other evil things from TV, magazines, radio stations, broadcasting etc? would be better.
many young people are watching those videos (or reading / typing harmful comments, or doing other bad things!) etc. all over the world. and its NOT ok!
parents? (or people in authority): intervene?! seriously
wait.. there is more:
harmful drawings / comics / animations etc, clothing / styles / hairstyles / behaviour, facial expressions, gestures, dancemoves, acting, exercises, sports etc.
harmful things in video games, news, reports, interviews, vlogs / blogs, tutorials, movies, series, trailers, entertainment shows, video productions! (+ backgrounds + surroundings), books, art, artworks, calendars, posters, business flyers, catalogues, leaflets, packagings, stickers etc. (words, speeches (+ voice types, vocal color etc), music, sounds, visuals, references! etc)
harmful things in stores and online shops, advertisements + advertising, commercials..
+ better stop online dating and other harmful things!
maybe..
support ocean or river! clean up organizations? (i think it is of high importance) (in india, pakistan, africa etc)
+ support animal welfare (animal shelters (money for food or new fluffy dog beds? blankets?, small fluffy carpets? (+ washing machines?), pet vitamin supplements, + pet supplies (dog toothbrushes?), pet toys, dog hairbrush? (parasites!) bath towels, medical checks, dental care? / nail, paw care? etc. pet heating pads? heated dog houses? (for winter or in cold areas), pet cooling mats / pads (on hot days, summer), diesel powered portable generators? (outdoor electric power generation) (to run vacuum cleaners, washing machines etc), solar lamps?, transport vehicles, maintenance work + other improvements, additional staff + volunteers, more safety, beautifications? etc. topiary??
+ animal rescue ? (dog rescue projects in india?), animal hospitals?? (in poor countries or districts) or homeless people in your area? (btw governments should help these people! seriously. fast / adequate / individual support?!)
support some of them?
+ always be careful: corona etc!
or become a firefighter, volunteer firefighter (+ driver? (pump operator), paramedic or ER doctor? ER nurse? ambulatory care? or shuttle service? (for people with disabilities)
+ be cautious: corona, hepatitis, tuberculosis etc!
become an instructor? (fire and rescue?, emergency medical services?, advanced driving techniques?, advanced first aid?, psychological first aid?, wound care management!? + preventions (decubitus!, contractures!, thrush!, periodontitis!, loneliness?? etc) (nursing homes / home care / hospitals etc + training seminars for employees) + hygienics?, high angle rescue techniques?, first aid for pets?, basic pet care?, junior firefighter programs?)
start reading medical books? (anatomy? / physiology? / ECG interpretation? / EMS (paramedic books?) or nursing books? or blood banking and transfusion medicine? or dental engineering? medical or rescue engineering? medical dictionary? (illustrated)
become a dog trainer? (rescue dogs, avalanche rescue dogs, therapy dogs) education? + watch out! dogs, cats etc. can transmit / spread corona!
become an animal rescuer or animal doctor? + watch out! CORONA! (protection, safety measures etc)
caution! they say: Coronaviruses are zoonotic, meaning they are transmitted between animals and people!
maybe.. plant a tree? many trees? a walnut tree?? in a park, garden or backyard?
a walnut tree = food source (for birds etc) + oxygen generator.
+ provide water for animals in summer? fresh water source? or bird bath?
or food? (daily? or several times a week?)
use checklists to improve efficiency?
snowy days? become a snowplow driver? (volunteer?)
or towing service worker?
or pharmaceutical supplier?
+ be cautious: corona!
new technologies + other cool things:
Far-UVC light (222nm) efficiently and safely inactivates airborne human coronaviruses?? (+ flu virus and many other?)
do research? progress? + installations? (in offices, busses, trains, cars, restrooms, elevators, classrooms, corridors, stairwells, hospitals etc?) .. could save lives.
+ improve immune systems? (food nutrients?)
+ portable plexiglass virus shields? (for counters, offices, workplaces, waiting rooms, buses, trains, passenger cabins etc) + air purifiers? (with HEPA filter) or cased UV air purifiers?
+ limit the number of customers in stores, shopping malls, buses etc?, keep distance + distance floor markings?, + keep windows / vehicle windows wide! open for ventilation?
+ stay at home?
amazing tools for rescue workers: portable hydraulic StrongArm (r) for firefighters etc.
( jawsoflife com ), hands free thermal vision (in mask imaging system), in mask heat vision (temperature display etc) or c-thru technology.
+ there are more amazing tools!
high rise rescue solution? SPARS parachute rescue system? ( cosmic-rs com )
fireproof clothing? + fire escape hoods?! (fire escape hoods and fire escape masks are designed to help you to escape from a burning building. each of these fire escape masks and hoods allows you 15 ? minutes to flee through the toxic gases / smoke)
smoke detectors with LCD display?, CO detectors?, fire blankets?, fire extinguisher? (+ fireproof clothing, cap, gloves, safety glasses etc?) (+ fire extinguisher selection chart?)
fire suppression systems? smoke extraction? fire protective coatings? (or anti corrosion?), seat belt cutter? useful gift idea? for family or friends etc. (or useful teaching books etc)
support fire and rescue departments / services in poor countries or districts? (new helmet lamps, safety clothing + shoes, new equipment, fire escape hoods,
thermal monitoring? (thermal vision will help you to track down a fire's source and smouldering fires in dark. glowing embers as well as fire hot-spots can be detected and fighted very fast and efficiently! + mobile infrared cameras could detect hidden hotspots or locate people in smoke-filled buildings),
first responder kits etc / communication devices (wearing! portable radios), new vehicles? a turntable ladder?? training verhicles? new motorcycles? (+ customizable / agility / more efficiency, + difficult terrain / crowded areas etc),
new firefighter / rescue helicopters? (certain areas)
new reanimation boards (for nursing homes / hospitals etc), new lifters? (patient transfer solutions), protection equipment / protective gear (corona), medical oxygen??, ventilators?, AEDs + first responder kits, pulse oximeters, diagnostic penlights, glucometers? (+ strips), + various batteries (or battery charger?), blood pressure cuffs, stethoscopes, weight scales, label machines? (for clothing or other personal things), rescue blankets?, stifneck collars?, thermometers, neck pillows, heating pads / cooling packs (or aspirators + tubes, IV poles, (+ IV (intravenous) nutrition), breath exercisers, electric shavers!, nail clippers!, glasses cleaning cloths, non-slip socks! and many other good things + health care products (high quality products?) etc, compression bandages, medical dressing (+ anti pressure sores (decubitus!) elbow / heel protectors / pads / comfort cushions etc), CPR training simulators?, disposable ambu bags?, new rollators + replacement parts (+ hip protectors etc), wheelchairs + replacement parts (footrests, leg rest, headrest + cushion, armrest pads + comfort pillows?, cushion pads etc. to prevent pressure sores!), gel pads for shoes + back heel pads etc (+ improved skin inspections?! + treatment + reports + regular checks (+ photo documentation? with digital camera (disease / wound / injury processes! etc), anti decubitus air mattress for additional prevention?, + prevent hand contractures? (hand / wrist / finger splints?, hand therapy ball exercises?), auxiliary eating spoon and fork? (stroke hemiplegia rehabilitation training) comfort grips cutlery? (great for parkinson / disabled, suffering with tremors and trembling hands etc), medical alert system solutions?, own phones for all employees? (more efficiency / more safety), electric armchairs (more comfort), ergotherapy? (useful + less loneliness! + caution: corona!), water dispensers (less dehydration) (+ caution: edema / pulmonary edema / other diseases etc.), outdoor corner sofa + table? (garden, terrace / + all weather proof) + electric awning?, lighting solutions? + cool floor / garden lamps? (solar?, waterproof), teamwork + helping each other? (+ watchfulness, attentiveness, helpfulness, care, + honesty, accuracy, + giving helpful tips / hints, + politeness, being thankful, being focused), + preventing back injuries? (employees! / patients) (lift and carry properly. (+ teamwork? / use tools and aids?) + gymnastic exercises for a strong back?, (+ protect (treat carefully) your joints, elbows, kneecaps etc! + your nerves!), + energy and resource saving concepts?, tasty / healthy food? (+ additional: instant soups?, ready meals?, canned foods? for hungry employees / night shift etc), (+ vegan cooking books? give it a try? at home?)
+ other improvements, beautifications, more safety, comfort etc + spreading good mood? (less sadness) (+ please be careful: corona!)
@@technoraver99 and your point caller is?
@@philkibble3912 it's just spam report that crap.
@Tree lmao 'my good sir'
Wow, this accident is about a day old, yet you managed to describe it so well.
bro th-cam.com/video/sczuvwAHIms/w-d-xo.html
He's a pilot describing what happens when someone pilots. How is that unusual?
Why does that surprise you?
@@garymitchell5899 Tell me about it.....
White Derek nice troll
The amazing thing about the whole incident is everyone was calm. From camera guy no shaking/screaming/shaking to the pilot going through the lists to the tower staff talking them down. Seriously nice to see and hear pros at work.
super steady ois bro.. :D
These people are so lucky they had someone that could stay calm and handle the situation. The training these pilots receive is top notch as they always have so many lives in their hands. Great job pilots!
The calmness of both the pilots and air traffic control in such a nail biting situation is particularly impressive and outstanding!! How they were able to remain so calm is simply beyond my imagination. Great work!!!
Maybe they can remain so calm because they can’t even see the engines from the cockpit. It. Mr. Bayo, Suppose you are in the cockpit, and you know one of the biggest threat to safety of flight is a catastrophic engine failure. Wouldn’t you want to see the engines visually. This could easily be done with a couple of cameras on each side of the plane, tiny little pinhole cameras in the fuselage would show the front of the engine and the back of each engine. Why in the hell the manufacturers of airliners don’t provide the pilots with video of the engines is beyond my comprehension. I swear to God this is the stupidest industry in the world.
Furthermore, nowadays, even automobiles are becoming fully automated, a much more difficult scenario than fully automated airplanes. But the airline pilots union has a stranglehold around the neck of the airlines, and they prevent for automation and therefore reduce the safety of flight.
More than 60 years ago, The airplanes that I worked on in the Air Force were fully automated fighter aircraft, they did not need a pilot at all and they had a much more difficult mission then flying from one city to the next. But the flight industry is full of proud idiot pilots, from the military to civilian aviation, and they all want to be in control when in fact the pilot is always the weakest link in the system.
Lest Anyone think I am envious, I myself am a pilot, and I am also an engineer that has designed and built components for aircraft, Rockets, you name it.
It is long overdue that we get the monkey out of the cockpit and let the computers do what they do best, automation, with quick reaction and basically no errors. It is long overdue that we get the monkey out of the cockpit and let the computers do what they do best, automation, with quick reaction and basically no errors.
If you watch the myriad of videos showing analysis of airplane crashes, you will find that 90% are due to pilot error. Those are errors that would not have happened with automation. That means when we get automation we will have a 10 fold reduction in accidents and deaths.
@@steveperreira5850 you dont have to see everything to fly the plane, instruments are made to be used instead of vision, that gives very little in most of the time flying. There is no case to have live video of the engines, other than assuming you need to see what is going on, what is false while piloting comercial aircrafts, and being a pilot yourself, you should know that.
With everything else, I have no idea on why automation is not used more, but in the situation of the video, there are probably independent systems with independent sensors, so having redundancy is a lot harder, and the thing gluing those systems is the pilot doing the checklists.
If the machine senses a fire in an engine, uses the first fire extinguisher, it fails, the sensors that determine existence of fire melt or get destroyed, or any other reason, the plane thinks the fire is off, and time for brandy!
The amount of edge cases a *HUMAN* yould have to write logic for, is much more complex than a human doing a checklist.
A solution could be to train machines, or make machines train themselves to manage the systems, but then you still have one centralized system and a virtual actor that is as vulnerable as the first fire extinguisher
I'm a software engineer, not an aeronautic one, so I know software is very fragile, so fragile even a nasa vehicle was totaled by bad coded math (imperial/metric mixmash), an old chemotherapy (cannot remember the name) literally removed every hardware security measure and implemented software scurity measures and checklists and people literaly died of radiation poisoning by bad made software. And every industry is vulnerable, every company, from nasa to a small software factory, every person is imperfect.
The notion that we should stop doing stuff we cannot do perfectly because a machine can is an old mindset. Moreso when the premise of a system doing something a human can do better, when the thing the human is doing is dealing with a broken system
Assembly lines? Packaging? Organizing? sure, some implementations may even have 99% success with some redundancy. Never perfect.
Now, flying a plane? doing surgery? writing an essay? designing for humans? *NO*, no when we, as imperfect humans code them, nor when they code themselves with deep learning. Never if the premise is that the machine will do it perfectly in comparison with a human. We are not there yet. And we cannot trust machines to do it, still.
There is a reason tesla doesnt encourage getting off the wheel, or text, while in the road, even with auto-pilot on. As it takes one literally random human error to potentialy kill someone, because the machine will not adapt to a logical malfunction, not yet at least, and a person can, and will adapt to a faulty machine if it is trained to do so.
I liked your rant so I ranted back
*Debri lands on front yard*
People living in the house: I didn't know we had a package from UPS.
Arrived in the same condition as UPS delivers too lol
Amazon: How was your delivery? Thumbs Up/Thumbs Down
Now that's customer service: Unexpected upgrade from Ground Delivery to expedited Air.
When Karen demands that package NOW:
You just now made that up..... didn't you?
I looked at the picture of the engine cowling in the yard and all I could think of, beyond being thankful no one was hurt, was "Honey, you know that fire pit you've been after me to build? The ring just arrived air express..."
BAHAHAHAAH!!
My thought was what’s the price of scrap aluminum
I'm still laughing................
My thought was giant toilet seat
Unfortunately the NTSB will be along shortly to take it away....
Fascinating breakdown! Huge kudos to the pilots and ATC
Absolutely ⭐️🙏❤️
Owner of the house : "honey did u order a plane turbine"
😂😂😂😂😂
no it was only a ring, she ordered for the garden roses
Our married ring 🤣🤣
Someone's relationship must be truly strong if they need a ring from a plane's engine!
Amazon drone drlivery?
What an ATC controller, "Your wish is my command".
He’s a faking legend!
Faking legend imm say it again!
It's a case of being light-hearted over things they're losing control of.
coz the ATC controller is a Denver ATC controller :P
As an aircraft mechanic myself, this video is spot on in describing what happened in the cockpit, communication with ground control and possible cause of the failure.
I assumed our aviation industry, pilots, crew, traffic controllers ,etc are very competent and capable. But I never realized how great these people really are. Outstanding team work and an amazing analysis by captain Joe. I just subscribed and can’t wait to watch more. It makes me feel very proud of our airline industries in the free world. 2 pilots are a must.
I love the way Captain Joe explains step-by-step, in detail, about this incident. Excellent video!
Captain Joe understands that there are verbal, visual and mixed learners. Thus he encompasses all 3 styles into his presentations. As a veteran of 8.25 million miles flown I would be happy to see him as my pilot or First Officer.
I think he uses the concept "standing on the shoulders of titans" and also building the legacy of aircraft operations throughout the decades learning what works, and what doesn't work. Some of the stuff crews did 50 or more years ago had moments of "WTF were they thinking."
Indeed!
I really don't care for such educational videos😂 give me anxiety
I'm just impressed with the professionalism shown by all parties.
Me: It's kinda late, I'd better go to sleep to be well rested on my exam
Captain Joe: *uploads a video*
Me: I don't need sleep, I need answers
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👌👌👌👌😂😂😂😂 true that Richard
stop spying me lmao same thing happened
Hahahaha same
LOL
Good luck on your exam!!
This is one of the only instances where I wouldn’t get mad at someone for clapping when we land
Underrated comment XD
@@guitarfreak342 Right? 'Cause you should be awake for the landing anyway. So why would you care if people clap or not?
Now we clap when they remove the CRAZY people from the flight :)
I felt like crying. There are so many brilliant people in the world doing absolutely mind bogglingly brilliant things every day, and all we ever hear about is idiots and politicians and murderers. Thank you Captain Joe. And thank you to all his ‘colleagues’!
With enough practice, anybody can do anything.
@@marcuskephart2015 not true
S-OTV, It sure seems like that ! Like you, I'm done hearing about all the negative, ridiculous crap going on. There absolutely are many brilliant people, doing amazing, courageous, selfless things, every day. Lets hear more about the positive. Events and individuals that help move our civilization forward. Thank you for the honest and thought provoking comment. Be well.
Tears do come to my eyes when I hear of such heroism.
@@marcuskephart2015 indeed! All experts work hard to become experts
1:30 I’m pretty sure 328 heavy pilot said “mahalo” which is Hawaiian for “thank you” seeing has how Honolulu is their destination.
Yeah
You beat me to it.
"Glad I didn't make it over water!"
You are correct. Don't blame anybody for having Hawaii on their mind. I know I would. Mahalo.
Same happened in the Netherlands a day prior!
a 747-400 (cargo /Longtail Aviation) also lost engine parts, injuring 2 on the ground (this was closer to take off, since ATC, informed the pilots that the engine was showing fire)
Pratt & Whitney P&W4000 engine used in both planes.
Before that, in December, a 777 (Japanese Airlines) also had an engine blowout with that same engine.
I love it when nobody gets hurt. The pilots and air traffic control deserve a very shiny medal.
But not the maintenance crew.
@@johnnewell5294 Did Joe say what the maintenance crew did or failed to do that caused the eng. failure?
Pure luck that no one died from the parts falling. Not even damage that I see.
As well as the engineers who designed the plane to be fault tolerant.
@@breezyweasel but engineers earn 30-50 t a year and some people which can only kick the ball earn >100t a week = world is crazy upside down and very corupt
Joe, I'm an Airman. Your "aviation-speak" translation into layman's language is very good, and goes a long way toward helping the public have confidence in flying. Nicely done!
"If you can walk away from a landing, it's a good landing. If you use the airplane the next day, it's an outstanding landing." Chuck Yeager
Reminds me of something a certain animated pelican would say after a crash followed by a routine glaring from his rich duck boss.
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And if you survived a plane crash, it’s another happy landing.
Marines often use Chuck Yeager's quote because they frequently have reason to, whether by helicopter, C130, or C5, they are taken to places that aircraft shouldn't land, even the helicopters (such as mountain sides and naval vessels).
The kind of mindset which causes planes to crash.
From a sim instructor: great video, great analysis, great positivity, great emphasis on training and teamwork.
A big salute to the incredible pilots that landed this plane safely. 🧑✈️👨🏻✈️🙏
Watching a lot of these videos how pilots handle emergencies, a line from NCIS LA comes up.
When a newbie fieldagent had her first mission, after the mission (which went succesfully after a few hitches) her colleagues debrief her in a social manner.
Then she says on the question how she knew what to do, she simply says: Trust your training.
That is exactly what @captainJoe, @74gear and @mentourpilot always say. Your training is your basis.
Well trained pilots doing exactly what they are trained to do and returning to the airport and landing is the normal outcome from an event like this. We do this in the sim over and over and over. Does scare the crap out of the passengers and makes the news media go nuts calling pilots heroes for doing what they get paid for.
B Kailua, What is a hero pilot? One that improvises.
@@donluego9448 A pilot or anyone else who is doing what they are trained to do as a job is not a hero for doing that job. It downplays real a hero . A hero is someone who goes above the call of duty or the job and risks their own life to save someone. Pilots flying an airplane with an emergency are just doing what they are trained to do.
FO: "Uh, captain, physics has gone funky."
CPT: *sigh* "Ok, give me the 'Jesus has returned and he's angry' checklist."
A decade ago I read the The Checklist Manifesto and author Atul Gawande discussed at great length pilots checklists - I learned so much and have implemented a lot of that into my personal and professional life. Preparing for all outcomes, having procedures in place, whether in the air, in the surgical theatre, managing events, etc, will save lives. So much credit to these pilots and crew who were so prepared. Just amazing. Thank you for walking us through step by step of how it went!
People don't plan to fail. They fail to plan - Vince Lombardi
Luck favors the prepared
I am learning to fly. The first thing my instructor told me about was checklists! He flew commercial jets round the world for 30 years but he does or watches me doing all the items on each lis every time we fly. By my third lesson I was expected to know the airborne checklists from memory. I realised how important and I bought 'The Checklist Manifesto' as a consequence - excellent book! Safety is lost if we get complacent or distracted.
"allowing passengers to hop onto the next flight"
I think they might want a break from flying after that...
Or at least a few minutes to change their underwear before the next flight!!
@Jessica Wagers - I had a completely different takeaway. A seriously unfortunate thing happened, and the people and systems worked great to keep everyone safe. It increases my confidence that the people (crews, controllers) are prepared, and the aircraft are robust.
@Jessica Wagers I can understand the fear, but I'd suggest that you shouldn't let it keep you from flying. Planes are machines, and like any machine, they can sometimes have a malfunction. Take your car, for example. If the tire blows out while you're driving, that can be scary in the moment, but you get the tire replaced, and you continue driving. In this situation, the plane had a malfunction, but everyone involved brought the plane to a safe landing, and all is well.
The chances of them ever experiencing a flight incident are pretty much zero after experiencing one. They're playing with house money for the rest of their lives!
@Jessica Wagers flying is the safest way to make miles (apart from trains).
Per hour is as safe as driving.
Biking is (per hour) double as dangerous.
Data from The Netherlands (Holland) about two decades ago.
I biking got worse.
If I was the guy at that house, I would be like "errr... honey, can we keep it?"
Ya I'd tell the faa to get out, private property, if it falls on my property it's mine now!
Honey that would look cool in my man cave. I'm sure I can fit it in the basement.
Someone probably took it to a lab saying is had fallen of an ufo
Me too
Would make a perfect jacuzzi edge and shape 😊
"Non-Normal Checklist" lol. Euphemistic name for Emergency Checklist.
Boeing has two types of Checklists - Normal and Non-Normal. No longer “Emergency” Checklist!
@@russlamb1147 sounds a little bit less scary 😂😂
non normal is different from emergency. Because the aircraft can fly with just 1 engine, its not an emergency. It is urgent, hence why the first 5 steps are memory steps, so that you can stop it becoming an emergency. It is non normal, because while you don't operate the aircraft with 1 engine, you still have options. In this case they had just taken off so they were very close to the airport. If they were mid flight, they would use this opportunity to assess their options, ie, divert to another airport, attempt a restart (unlikely in a fire), or continue to the destination.
An emergency check list would be along the lines of full power loss on both engines.... because you are out of other options and you are landing immediately.
@@FlyingHangman Having an engine failed on a two engine aircraft is an emergency. We would not consider landing at the destination unless it was the “nearest suitable” airport. As the first commenter stated, Boeing has Normal, and Non-Normal checklists. Every conceivable emergency is covered by a Non-Normal checklist. Any Non-Normal situation can be considered an emergency. Anything that increases workload, or diminishes aircraft capability can be an emergency.
The overweight checklist must've been performed because of the weight of the pilot's balls of steel.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
All pilots have balls of steel.
My brother Gumball, probably the understatement of the year sir!! (LOL) Well said brother, well said indeed!
This joke is getting old now
I work for the fire department that responded and will definitely be forwarding this to our training division!
As many people are saying how “lucky” this was, the engines are literally designed to handle this sort of failure, and the remaining engine is designed to provide sufficient power to climb out (if needed) and circle around for landing on one engine.
@Jan Lenz 😆 Fair enough, but I think I’d consider him rather unlucky... I mean, statistically speaking, he should play the lottery.
Agreed, that's the certification requirement
this is not normal single engine situation which every plane pass the ETOPS test can handle,the parts of engine may hit the wing and fuel tank.remember the QF72,engine parts destroy fly controll system on wing and fuel tank
@Just Sam bruh a piece of the engine cover fell down, not a big part of the motor
Yea this was a catastrophic failure. The engine wasn’t supposed to break apart like it did.
So glad to hear everyone made it back onto the ground safe and sound. Great work by the pilots, crew and everyone involved! I would be absolutely terrified as a passenger to say the least.
This actually shows how safe flying is now. Even in a major engine failure, the checklist worked, the engine still held on and did not destroy the wing, pilots kept in control of the situation and could easily fly back and land safely. That is very reassuring even if it is a scary event.
Optimism running wild. Figure the passengers are cured from flying for the rest of their lifes.
I didn't think of it that way, but yeah, you're right
@@peterpim6260 Are they? It's a scary event but I don't think they'll be afraid of flying all their life.
@@peterpim6260 You'd be wrong. From what I read, most of them got on the next flight available. They decided they "won" that lottery already so the chances of the same thing happening were very slim. And, umm..., Hawaii!
@@peterpim6260 they flew on the next flight or so...
Great commentary and analysis. It really did feel like it was professionally and calmly executed.
seeing your name here feels like a crossover episode
@@JuliKanos 1q
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no. bad decisions were made. 1. by turning left they went over a densely populated area to get back to the airport. a crash would've killed people on the ground. 2. their circle back to the airport was really long. why didn't they go straight back and land against take off direction, with the airport shutting down all outgoing traffic. i'd have been mad if i was on that plane or on the ground under it. they didn't make the best possible decisions.
@@fredsmith6324 From the analysis, it sounds like they followed all proper procedures and training.
1. The left turn was due to the right engine being out. The pilots, at this point, were not away of the exact condition of the engine apart from it being on fire and disabled. Turning in the direction of the failed or damaged engine is a greater risk due to the increased drag and unknown characteristics. The pilots knew that a left turn could be completed safely with the systems they had operational. A right turn might have caused additional failures. Turning on the active engine would seem like the safer option and there was no hesitation in doing so.
2. As the video shows, the pilots had to run through their checklists. Aviate comes first - they need to know which systems are operational and take into account fuel, weight, etc. for an emergency landing. Once they stabilised the plane, they can the navigate. The landing was performed calmly and smoothly, and the passengers were clearly elated by the performance of the pilots.
In the end, they got the plane on the ground and no souls were lost. They did far better than what most of us would do.
It's incredible to think of clearing "any runway" at Denver on short notice. The procedures required are impressive to facilitate that.
Beyond clearing traffic, what else would there be?? Arrivals could be told to go around, and departures sent to another runway. Seeing as they took off from 25 and landed 26, they landed with traffic, so other planes were landing on 26 could’ve gone around to the N-S runways that were being used for landing. At Denver, the only runways that are sometimes used for both are 17R and 34R. 7/25 and 8/26 work in tandem, if 7 is landing, 8 is for takeoffs, and reverse for opposite wind, 25 for takeoff, 26 for landing. I’m assuming they do this, so on landing you end up closer to the terminal, and don’t have to taxi very far for takeoff. It’s one of the reasons I like that airport so much, and it’s only ever taken me 30 minutes from walking in the front door until I’m at my gate.
They will do this for any emergency aircraft. Technically the pilot doesn’t even need a clearance and can land on any runway once he declares emergency. That being said, it’s best to work with ATC to do things in an organized manner. I fly Cessnas and have declared emergency once and got the same treatment from ATC.
Helps when you have a bunch of runways to offer like DEN has.
They will have procedures in place anyway to ensure the aerodrome is as clear as possible for any aircraft declaring an emergency. But it must have been made easier by Covid and the fact there are less flights as a result.
It is a Covid time. Not too many flights going daily anyway...
I would of kept the shroud if it landed in my yard haha
"No sir I haven't seen a shroud in these parts for years"
My brother is a United Airlines Captain and this video shows why he is deservedly proud of his airline. Captain Joe did a fine job highlighting the professionalism of this cockpit and cabin crew, and the air traffic control team supporting them during this inflight emergency.
However, it doesn't say much for the maintenance crew.
@@derekhall2079 You can do all the maintenance checks and preventative maintenance checks you want, that doesn't mean a problem won't arise. Your comment is stupid and ignorant.
Thats the reason i have the highest amount of respects for the airline pilots all around the world ❤️ thank u for keeping us safe while being a true professional!
"Good training and constant practice is key here"
Before I entered the aviation industry, I was an apprehensive flyer. Nowadays, I feel safer in an aircraft than I do on the ground.
yes, me too! worked aviation- absolutely ( and submarines- when I worked we all took it so seriously)
I just want to say Captain Joe, I have been watching you since the start and you raised me as an aviation enthusiast and now I am beginning flight lessons. Thank you so much :)
Good luck bro😀
But who would want to fly with a lemon ???????
Same here!
@@anirudh2000 This is my First trial flight If you want to see on my channel:
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Debris lands in yard.
Husband: "Babe, what the heck did you buy now?!"
A giant ring. Do you like it?
Wife: "Lowes had a special on airplane cowlings. Just in case you need one later".
a toilet seat
@@3rdandlong Husband: But that oversize wedding ring won't fit on my Lear Jet.
@@nonelost1 Also husband: let me try putting my pp through it
Poke fun of United all you want, but at least they have great pilots who can deal with this.
Why don't you also thank all the computers that have handled your comment for their ability in 'dealing with this' ? To them, It's no different, they've just changed checklists mid flight. No big deal.
#TRAINING
@@millomweb Really?
@@patrickkotyuk205 Yeah, really. Trained people did what they trained for. What else did you expect?
Ditto to the cabin crew. I have personally experienced quick, appropriate, and effective responses from United flight attendants when I fell ill on a very turbulent ATL-IAH flight (not airsickness but acute pre-travel fatigue & dehydration). I hate sardine can travel but love to fly--next time I'll do my part as a passenger and be in good shape to board.
The Boing pilots : pilots with parachutes.
Very well done video! Thanks! ✈
I witnessed the plane shortly after it initiated the left turn. It was coming towards me from the north in a gentle bank and descending through a cloud layer. The plane was much lower than would be normal in that location. At first I thought I was just seeing a condensation trail but quickly realized it was smoke. As it passed overhead I could see a bright orange flame coming from what appeared to be the lower right side of the cowling approximately 5 to 10 feet from the rear of the engine. The cowling was still intact as far as I could see at that point. The plane continued its turn until it was heading back east toward the airport. I continued to visually follow it and approximately 30 to 60 seconds later there was a large puff of smoke at which point it appeared the engine had exploded. I continued to visually follow it until I could no longer see it.
_there was a large puff of smoke at which point it appeared the engine had exploded_ That late in the sequence, what you saw was most likely the FIRE EXTINGUISHER system being deployed... but we'll find out for sure in about 18 months, when the NTSB gets done plotting the debris "field" and issues their final report.
@@MajorCaliber You're saying after they received the fire alarm, declared an emergency, turned to head back to the airport and probably 2-4 minutes had passed, then they would deploy the extinguisher? That doesn't seem a reasonable explanation. The explosion was the same as seen in the dash cam, I was just closer to it. The cowling was intact when the plane flew over me.
@@booger65man You may want to let the NTSB know what you saw. Could be useful to the investigation.
Intuation ,common sense, and a good feel of what is happening around you is ever, a common person's guide to potential alarm !!!
After take off and clearance to walk around on board inside my national carrier in my youth ,enrought to europe from east africa, I looked out long an hard through a porthole , and noticed a very long left turn , and dip to the left over what looked like a country along the upper nile !!! The nausea, and dizziness,was characteristic, of sudden descent, and yawing ,from previous experience too !!!
Looking at the progress monitor on the next seat ,this looked like a very unusual directional turn ,assuming that the tragectory co ordinates, were meant to be maintained on a certain straight flight path ahead !!
I went to the the head pursuer and inquired, why we seamed to be heading back , and got a hushed reply that I was to head back to my seat, and not let anyone know what was now privately confirmed !!!
After a somewhat irritated assurance, that everything was ok , I did as I was told ...........
Only to hear in onother 30 minutes that we would be landing at our previous departure !!!
Nobody else had noticed anything to the end ,and there was astonishment to say the least !!!
After disembarking, while at the departure gate to reboard again for the same journey, I got a personal little conversation from the cockpit crew, this is how it went !!!
' are you studying aviation abroad .....?
We are told you are one to watch out for though ! Can now let you know that we had to return , because the autopiloting failed ! Usually we fly planes, where passengers snore from one point to onother , but when we have a keen eye amongst them we take notice !!!!!! Now board and let the cabin crew, give you some further instructions , about an hour after take off '!!!!
Well folks nothing prepared me for the next thing !
In those non Kevlar cockpit door days , my 22 year old self, was ushered onto the jam seat , behind the captain for the rest of an eight hour flight,and it was delightful to arrive at heathrow at night !!
I learned about separation standard, outer markers , spiraling in and everything in-between!!!
For a student mastering in business studies in London, I felt a calling, for aviation in scotland !!!
Well, about thirty years on , my son did go to Perth , for his aviation training , and I own a travel agency, !
Who would have thought that the aeroplane ✈️🛫, would be at the center of our lives as fate has had it, today !!!!!
@@gathsfamily2866 Wow what a story! That’s awesome you got to sit in the cockpit for an 8 hour flight wow!
Usually the case, a broken fan blade. With all that shaking, I wouldn't trust that pylon. They're lucky the fan blade didn't shoot off into the side of the aircraft and kill passengers. Reminds me of the flight 232 disaster. Great video!
They're probably going to replace the pylon as well and perform a thorough inspection of that wing
it's not really luck when only 15-30 out of 360 degrees has a possibility of killing a passenger and even then the wing could've stopped it. it would require very precise geometry of the impact to hurt anyone. So statistically speaking, it's very unlikely.
@@PeachyTech Yes, luckily the odds are low, but it can and has happened. There was an incident years ago with Delta, the fragments made a hole in the aircraft and killed 2 people.
Yeah good thing they're designed to contain the explosion but yeah they got lucky on this one you're right.
Yeah luckily not another southwest
It’s awesome to hear and see professionals do what they do. Even the out of ordinary. Great video Capt Joe
Thank you for the kind words for our great investigators at the NTSB. They are truly wonderful people and deserve a lot more recognition than what they do get
"Honey, amazon shipped us the wrong 777 engine shroud again."
🤪😁 typical UNITED AIR, piss-poor everything. #walked away from UNITED AIR 2001.😡
🤣🤣🤣
@@soldierboyUSA26 actually, the United flight crew was throughly professional and handled the incident in absolutely textbook fashion.
These delivery drones really work though 'ay....
I guess you will have to return it NOW! That is HUGE!
: are you a pilot?
: yes i am
: from where did you get your license?
: Captain Joe
ok i know it's a joke, but i really hope no one is thinking you can become a pilot by watching youtube videos. there is much more to know and learn. of course captain joe shows you the cool stuff but there is also a tonne of theory that is extremely boring.
@@fgrion Theory is not boring. It's Math, Physics, and Engineering!
@@fgrion thanks for sharing your knowledge 😂
@@saulekaravirs6585 maths physics engineering are not boring as long as you visualize them alongside with theory
@@saulekaravirs6585 Maths and Physics...yes, I can see those as boring, but, ENGINEERING???? BORING you say????? NOT!!!!
Wow .... respect to the pilots, crew ATC & passengers in this astonishingly eventful & frightening flight ...... & thank you Cpt Joe for taking the time to walk / talk us through the procedures that helped save the lives of so many people ✈️💯
I am a new student pilot (at 55 yrs old) and really appreciate what all of the men and women did throughout the entire group of people involved. Thank you for the explanation and analysis.
Awesome!
For its timeliness and the clarity of the explanation, this should be an award winning video!
My Father was both a Pilot and Retired Air Force Officer, I remember him saying that Flying was 99% boredom punctuated by 1% Stark Terror.
Great overview of the situation involving this in-flight emergency.
Very similar in that sense to anesthesiology, except you're not just responsible for one life, you're responsible for a bunch.
I think that maxim refers to combat missions, however.
Sounds like everyone worked brilliant on that day and even the passenger were fantastic. I love it when things come together. We really need each other.
When such an event happens do the pilots and crew get a compulsory holiday period to cool off and attend an internal mental health advisor / doctor etc?
Good question 😃
actually yea i would like to know
Yes.
@@musschootski Wait, yes as in it's a good question or yes as in they get the holiday period?
@@dr.eckschwein1062 Yes, receive time off. I was involved in an engine failure incident right after takeoff. Once we were back on the ground, and in the flight planning office, the on call duty pilot called and said to take time off. I was told to call back when I was ready, and that it was a standard procedure, not punitive in any way. There is a non zero amount of PTSD associated with such events.
Oh. Lord. All I could think was: "That wing is FULL of fuel."
It’s fine, it’s not gonna catch on fire
as long as the engine does explode and damage cabin / wing the fuel is fine.
wing damage both internal /external are scary af tho (honestly scarier than engine failure.
Did the aircraft land heavy? Did they dump fuel somehow
All I could think was: F....k another Boeing made plane
@@carlesc5497
True, but it was the engine in this case and Boeing doesn’t make those. What the NTSB finds out after investigating is key.
"Wunderbar" made my day. Greetings from Germany!
Wo bist du?
@@starguy2718 Ja
That was an amazing explanation of a scary incident! Cut corners on the olives not in the cockpit or cabin crew!!!! I can live without an olive.
A very good video.
The crew of United were exceptional. The danger arose and it was dissipated by the book. ATC were fantastic in their ability to minimise transmissions letting the pilots sort the problem. Congratulations to all for the professionalism and safe outcome.
Captain Joe, like most people I had a terrible fear of flying. Watching videos of disasters and saying "I'll never fly again" to myself. You relieved a huge fear of flying in me. Explaining in common sense wording all the redundant systems that planes carry, all the training, and so many other things I never knew. Just flew from JFK to San Juan PR. It was a breeze. You videos should be available in all airports everywhere. Thanks Again.
Was writing the same kind of comment!
I've been on some rough flights, plus some normal flights, but the crew here definitely deserved a round of applause and a cheer.
What is a rough flight bad turbulence?
Yep, can be a mix of like being on an extreme roller coaster, that's also got a bad case of the shakes.
Captain Joe's turnaround time on this video was almost as fast as this flight turning around to come back to Denver airport. Gut gemacht!
“Single pilot cockpit on passenger and cargo planes”! Has that even been proposed? If so, I’m shocked, because it goes against the redundent systems philosophy in aviation. I’m no pilot, but have hundreds of thousands of miles as a business passenger. I am a critical care nurse and have volunteered and participated in several over water medical emergencies aboard flights. During these events I was required to communicate complex information in person to the Captain whilst I was attending to my patient (once I actually had three simultaneous, separate patients on a single overwater flight) so he could make critical decisions with regards to his flight plan; eg. “ Do we need to set it down in Greenland, shoot for Heathrow or continue on to Frankfurt?” How could this happen successfully with a single pilot cockpit? The Captain was required to leave the cockpit under another pilots control whilst I reported my findings to the Captain and assisted him with running potential scenarios by providing him with information to permit him to make critical benefit/risk assessments.
I simply can’t imagine any scenario that would cause me to entertain the idea of a ”single pilot cockpit” on ANY flight where the wheels are off the tarmac. Please tell me this is not even a consideration in the aviation world?
it is. and due to increased capability of pilot information systems and automation. plenty of articles out there on it to. however as you say the argument always coems back to pilot and cabin managment in serious none automatable scenarios.
"MAYDAY MAYDAY aircraft" - Sent a chill to me spine.
Yes bad ATC discipline can be upsetting.
I find that pilots under the stress of an emergency almost never use the standard Mayday Mayday Mayday + callsign + nature of emergency + intention. They always say something like "Mayday Mayday aircraft", or "declarin' an emergency".
idk I know their all valid, but I just find it strange.
How you know someone is old enough to remember 9/11
@@NarattoRadians agreed
Absolutely
its honestly insane how absolutely everyone in the aviation community literally got the original video recommended, it's all over the place
Even non aviation people like me got this recommended
@@eobardrush2112 algorithm says HELLO.
Which original video
@@TheMatsushitaMan There are two that I know of, the debris falling from the sky taken by a family on the ground, and the one being filmed by whoever was at the window seat onboard.
“Wunderbar” is going to be the new running gag! :D
Way back in the 90s I had a first officer who had been stationed in Germany in the air force (he was an F-15 driver) and he answered "Wunderbar" to just about everything.
@@SteveD328 So... he was not good enough to be an F - 15 pilot? He was just allowed to drive? 🤔
Wunderbar? I thought I heard GUNDABAD! hahah #LOTR
I live in Broomfield. I was sitting in my apartment watching youtube when this happened. When I heard the big boom I thought for sure it was a fighter jet that had broken the sound barrier or something (there are always fighter jets coming in and out of the Broomfield airport) I looked out my window and saw this passenger plane way up in the sky and was like huh that was weird....only later did I find out that airplane parts were falling out of the sky near me. Pretty awesome that these planes can have an engine explode and still be able to fly
Fighter jets aren't allowed to break the sound barrier around people idek if they can do it on us soil because it causes health problems like headaches and miscarriages They usually do it in the ocean because of this
@@bobthebuilder1360 That all depends on the altitude those sonic booms happen, the frequency of them and time they happen. High alt sonic booms should not have any adverse effects on humans. While low frequent low alt sonic booms can induce stress, miscarriages and cardiac problems.
If the aircraft cannot survive the loss of one engine, then why bother with two?
Bro I live on east 11th place hella close to commons park lmfao
@@CathyInBlue redundancy. Aircraft carry more than one of each type of onboard systems. The fly-by-wire systems on some aircraft have, I believe, three flight control computers. One fails, the other two take over. If you’ve been on an aircraft and heard the “barking dog” sound, that’s part of the redundancy of the three hydraulic systems. Multiple pitot/static systems for speed and altitude readings. Sadly, there have been incidents where the redundancy didn’t work, the 737 Max crashes, which were a problem with the software and some lack of training of the pilots.
This aircraft could have easily flown with one engine inoperative albeit with reduced performance. They’re extensively tested before receiving final certification. Gives the pilots the time needed to work the problem and get to a safe landing.
As a GA pilot, this was very interesting for me, and really clearly explained. Many thanks!
Love the way everyone kicks into gear to get them down safe..
Those pilots deserve a raise for how well they handled that situation.
It is nice to think that, but they are trained for their entire career to deal with that, i bet at least 90% would stay relativly calm in that situation and it would be unfair to give them a raise due to a random event😅 Imagine the pilots bribing the ground crew to fuck up the airplane beforehand to get a raise😂
@@lucaberger8344 Even so, there’s a difference between training for it in the simulator, where you can try the exercise over and over and over again, and facing the real-world situation, where decisions you make can make the difference between a safe landing and ending up smashing into a Denver suburb and exploding into a gigantic fireball.
While uncontained engine failures aren't catastrophic, they are still a situation, and they need to be dealt with.
@@lucaberger8344 K
Sadly if anything they're probably going to just get a lot of paperwork and interviews instead.
mostly the one who went outside with no parachute to hold the engine.
If I owned that house, I would've walked outside, seen the shroud, and instantly would've thought "damn kids, and their pranks are getting out of control!"
😂😂😂
I want to know what kinda of pranksters live in your neighborhood...lol
@@NinjaofApathy th-cam.com/video/o_F_e4Bznzk/w-d-xo.html
@@Hungry_Tree_Ghost lol damn it sounds like your pranksters upgraded quite a bit from a bag of poop lol
I would have walked out, saw the cowel and thought " oooooh what can I make with that aviation grade alloy" and by tea time I'd have a room size grow light shade 🤣💪 🤣💚
“Heavy” is the designation given for any flight on an aircraft rated at at least 300,000 lbs max takeoff weight (MTOW)
It sounds like my EX wife is on board.
@@creepwood77 actually the A380 is the only aircraft considered “Super”
@@SnacksDeCarGuy The AN-225 isn't considered "super" lol???????????????
@@bjaarki honestly I am not sure why but I have heard it everywhere that the A380 is the only super heavy. Now, it may be because the Antiniov 225 is one of it's kind. But, it definitely should be if it isn't already.
United maintenance crew "Has anyone seen where I left my hammer".
@J Navarro It may have merely picked up a stone or debris from the runway.
Ohhh💩 they forgot the "retaining" screws🤯🤪
*hears engine exploding in the distance*
@@tri3852 "um...oops?"
The "wunderbar" got me
Capt Joe this is great analysis and commentary. The voice of a PRO.... from retired UAL Captain
The video taken by a passenger of the burning engine just proves that one can shoot a video and pee their pants at the same time.
While possibly spiraling to their doom at any second
maybe only emptyed another side ?
hahahahaa!!!
Thats why people use their phones in the restroom.. it is alllll just practice for future emergencies.😆
A 747 also lost parts of it's engine flying over the south of the Netherlands today. Happened just after take off as well. A woman on the ground got hurt.
A Mexican Air Force Learjet went down today too... been a crazy week for aviation
Pilots said that they got a bit rusty during pandemic. I think regular maintenance didn't happen in the planes as well as pilots didn't get some reintroduction in the meantime. Component failure is quite rare in aviation and generally happens due to mismanagement. At least we have pilots who have cool nerves.
USAF lost a T-38 in Alabama out of Columbus couple of days ago
Don't forget the kid that burned his hand when picking up a piece of debris that was still hot after falling down.
A kingAir 350 Beechcraft also crashed yesterday in northern Nigeria
Takes me back to the Twilight Zone episode where Bob Wilson just recovered from a nervous breakdown on the plane seeing the gremlin attacking the jet engine.
There's something on the wing ! Good way to get kicked off a flight lol
The fire extinguisher doesn’t go into the “turbine “ it goes into the engine nacelle, since that had been blown away the extinguisher won’t have any effect. That is why the fire didn’t go out. Otherwise good video.
I think he knew that since he is a commercial pilot
Mr Spooner, you are quite right about where the firex bottles are located/discharged - generally in the Core cowl, since it's a designated fire fire zone (with potential for presence of fuel vapors and with HPT case temperature generally exceeding autoignition temperature of the fuel air mixture; unlike the situation in either the fan or trans cowl, where fuel vapors aren't present, and skin temperature of the engine case thereunder is significantly lower.
Most jet engines inject halon or similar simultaneously throughout the engine (most of which is turbine) from the pylon, not from the cowl as that would be expected to get smashed up in a failure. Technically it's all in the nacelle and the nacelle is needed to contain it for it to be maximally effective. But he's not wrong in what he said.
Just what we need, a Microsoft Flight Sim buff giving his 2 cents worth, and trying to sound like he knows what he's talking about.
Two shot to the wind
ATC, "United 328 say your intentions." Captain, "I'm getting a different mechanic!"
haha!
Cheap cheap cheap. Real. So much is contracted out
Thank you for the SANE and RATIONAL report on this incident over Denver in stark contrast to the near death and catastrophic reports of the main stream media. Yes this was a serious situation but the well trained pilots handled it very well. The passengers were never in any serious danger and the plane landed safely.
Not really true, that engine could have sent parts into the cabin and killed passengers which happened a couple years ago. Not to mention an engine exploding could also damage the wing and affect lift or start a larger fire. The reason this was no big deal is thank God the worst case scenario didn't happen.
@@logdon17 I am not talking about what could have happened. I am talking about what actually happened but the news media is blowing it into this huge story about how close to death they came and how the evil Boeing and United companies deliberately caused this to happen because they are evil corporations.
@@MrREH1962 I heard more about Ted Cruz going to Mexico than I did about this story which also could have killed people on the ground from the falling debris. If anything, this story has zero political angle which is why it was buried.
“Never in any serious danger”
“Mainstream media”
Its idiots like you that were responsible for the prior 4 years of anti-intellectualism making decisions for others.
An engine failure is EXTREMELY dangerous and if it werent...they would have kept flying to Hawaii dont you think?...oh thats right...you dont!
Do everyone a favor and dont opine on things that affect others...
@@logdon17 So, you’re another idiot that politicizes every event?
Hopefully you didnt procreate.
That’s what I call a successful mission! Gonna be in the cockpit when I grow up...
I like how ATC was more stressed than the captain.
"We need 2 pilots for these types of situations"
Fkight simmers: "hold my drink"
lol sometimes a co-pilot would be nice
Use the autopilot most of the time, hdg and rate of climb is very helpful and keeps your brain involved.
please don't drink and fly
@@recoveringsoul755 Flying clubs were a risky environment.
th-cam.com/video/sczuvwAHIms/w-d-xo.html
Flying a plane, driving a train, a bus, .... it's the teamwork that finally brings situations to end well.
“Good checklists, on the other hand, are precise. They are efficient, to the point and easy to use even in the most difficult situations. They do not try to spell out everything - a checklist cannot fly a plane. Instead they provide reminders of only the most critical and important steps - the ones that even the highly skilled professionals could miss. Good checklists are, above all, practical.”
Great job of explaining!! I live in Denver & a good friend of mine was within a few blocks from where the engine debris landed! 😳
I can almost hear the long silence followed with the "what did you say" question, when you call your insurance company to tell a part of an airplane fell on your house/car.
Liberty Mutual - Been there, done that!
Lol
"Here at Farmers, we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two" "we are Farmers bumpadumpa bum bum bum"
then the Farmer's guy comes on, "Yep, we've covered it"
We need jake from statefarm
Brilliant walk through and analysis of what happened - and kudos to everyone involved for handling this so damn well. But, damn, that is an ancient plane...
My father, retired L1011 captain, used to say he's just a glorified bus driver...
Until something breaks.
Then he's God.
I have a friend who flew right seat for American. He says that as a pilot, you often earn your entire career earnings in just one flight.
Great explanation, factual and on key. I flew the 777 for 21 years at American as a Line CKA, over 17,000 hrs in type 200-300 great plane. Doodoo happens. Thats why we brief on every Takeoff, plan for an engine failure so there are no surprises. Every landing brief a Go Around that way again, No surprises. Look forward to following you.