Milwaukee M12 vs Ryobi HP 3" Cut Off Saw Showdown [20,000 RPM]
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- Milwaukee and Ryobi fight head to head to see who's cut-off tool will be left standing. We reviewed the Ryobi One+ HP Cut-off saw a couple of weeks ago, and one of the first questions from viewers was is it better than the Milwaukee M12? Of course, we have both, why not find out for ourselves, and show you too?!
Milwaukee 2522-20 M12 FUEL 3" Cut-off $139: homedepot.sjv.io/WjQnP
Ryobi HP 3" Cut-off $99: homedepot.sjv.io/VrDEA
The Ryobi One+ HP cut-off tool runs on the 18-volt platform while the Milwaukee M12 FUEL 3" cut off saw is on the 12-volt system. Features, weight, and size seem to be very much the same. The Ryobi claims to only have 19,500 RPM while the Milwaukee touts 20,000 RPM. We still say that's the "same" in our books. Sit back and enjoy the show.
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I own the M12 cutoff for 2yrs and the performance shown here is exactly what you can expect to get. I use my tool with a 4.0 and 6.0 battery. As mentioned by another user, when the battery hits the last two bars on the battery meter, it really throttles back the tool performance. That's 100% programmed into the circuit board and some of us theorize that since Milwaukee doesn't have a "high output" M12 pack, this is done to primarily protect the batteries but also prevent the brushless motor from overheating. Some will argue that the 6.0 M12 battery is a high output battery and while yes, it delivers more power compared to a 2-3.0 battery, it's technically not high output. The Ryobi tool clearly performs better but I think it comes down to the battery. The M12 cutoff was released when all other manufacturers cordless cutoffs weren't even a thought so I can't blame Milwaukee for ensuring they have built in protections for when even a 2.0 battery is being used though anyone that's ever used one of those M12 cutoffs knows that's not a good idea performance wise. If you're invested into either line, you won't go wrong with either tool. If you're starting fresh, the Ryobi stuff is generally cheaper so that may sway your decision more. Don't listen to fanbois, at the end of the day, it's your money so spend it as you see fit.
You should buy a new high output battery and try it and reply
@@MarcosGarcia-xg1rf it does not have a big difference since the new high output still using 18650 with 2ah cell, it will have more cut, that it is.
@Costa Vong I watched a video of the m12 5.0 ah ho battery taken apart and the cells were bigger than 1850.
Thanks super helpful input for my needs.
It's not mentioned in the video that the ryobi has a variable speed trigger while the Milwaukee is only on /off, no variable speed
It's because the Milwaukee is so old.....that's all
I work in a jail and all the security screws have been painted multiple time over and some are really hard to get out. I purchased several different types of security screws to replace. I usually have 2 or 3 per door that I can't get out. I purchased this ryobi to cut a slot in head and use flat screwdriver to screw out. It works so fast that even the screws I know I could get out with a little work I just go ahead and slot them. Only a couple more 1000 to do!
What a great use for this tool. Thanks so much for letting us know. So glad it's working well for you. Thanks for watching.
Good luck on the Escape!
Not to mention, #1 item requested by inmates for Christmas.
I hope you and your co workers beat the inmates relentlessly all day every day.
Great review, I bought the Ryobi 12 months ago & love it . Sensational for those quick fix cuts . In Australia it has 6 year warranty if done online
going from 4 1/2 to 3 inch was suuuuuper weird for me. Love the size. fits in the bag. Great for custom stuff!
Great video. I have both platforms. I could definitely see one of these being handy for odd jobs like cutting the aluminum frames for window screens.
Totally agree! I grew up in a glass shop, this would be great for cutting frames. Thanks for watching.
The Ryobi is a beast. I personally own one and I am thoroughly impressed. I use it to cut 1/2 inch thick galvanized cable. Used it with a Diablo cutting disc. Cut through it in less than 30 seconds.
I SECOND THE DIABLO ON THE RYOBI! LOVE MINE!
Ryobi is an easy choice for me , as I already have a collection of Ryobi products including the 9ah,6ah batteries its a no brainer.
I have both platforms and really like them both.I have a Ryobi drill that I abused at work for years almost daily and it is still going.
Lol I wish I had seen your review before I bought my m12 cutoff tool… got a deal on it but still feeling like I could of done without it…….lol damn good review!
I think the biggest issue with either of these cut-off tools is just a bit of misconception. It's not going to replace a pneumatic die-grinder for all purposes, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't have a place. It's a very handy tool for small jobs, but if you're cutting a lot, it's not the right tool. Thanks for watching.
Очень понравилось видео, спасибо огромное за тесты, я за милку конечно...
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Yep, thanks for watching.
The reason why the m12 cuts out is because you had less than 2 bars on the battery. I have been using these guys for quite some time and I noticed that the m12 usually only performs better on the first two bars, but underperforms on the last two bars. I have also noticed on the m12 it uses up two battery bars at a time if you pay attention. The m12 has less vibration so I take that over the Ryobi just for that reason. The m12 is more of a specialty tool where it really depends on what type of material you are working. I think Milwaukee should consider making a high output battery for the m12 line.
We agree, the cutout starts happening much sooner once the battery drops to 2-bars. You're right, both of these cut-off tools are definitely specialty tools and are not overall replacements for the typical pneumatic cut-off tool. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@Shoptoolreviews I don't get it, why use these inferior tools when a angle grinder is 10 times better, cut deeper, more wheels available and wheels are so readily available even Walmart carries many selections.
@@rickyperkins232 ummm, the tools being reviewed today are not angle grinders, which can be much bulkier and heavier. im surprised I actually have to type this. its the same reason when testing a dremel cutting wheel they dont use an angle grinder
@@mainsource8030 I agree. I work in the sand and gravel industry. Currently I use a 41/2 inch angle grinder with cut off wheels. They are great for heavier duty materials, however I also use it to plunge cut conveyor belt splice clip nuts when they need to be replaced. The bad part about using an angle grinder is in order to cut the nut deep enough to break it, you actually cut into the conveyor belt too. This little cut off tool would be great for cutting those nuts without cutting into the belt so badly. The only draw back is that I would have to use the angle grinder to cut off the studs from the new clips flush with the nut so not to catch anything but then again, this little thing may do that too? I may have to give it a try when my budget allows.
Man predicted it
I have the Milwaukee and it's amazing how handy it is..use it all the time..6ah battery gives more power vs the 3ah batteries..
Yes, this is a very handy tool. Thanks for watching.
Yeah, but the ryobi can use 9ah batteries too
@@xavier1964 but when u put a bigger battery on a fuel it increases performance it is also very compact
@@xavier1964 also a battery that is probably triple the weight of the tool will mess up the balance those heavy ass batterys are great in reciprocating saws, circular saw something that is a heavy battery drain tool or like a light or radio that just sits there a 12v 6 ah is still pretty small and light im waiting for milwaukee to drop a 9 or 12 ah m12 battery id love that
@@brianbecerra9735 same with ryobi hp
I just bought the m12 today. Same thing happened at 2 bars it started cutting out. I also noticed that it spun way slower . What's the good of these tools if you make a couple cuts then the battery dies? I like the reverse option it doesn't jump as much.
Cool. Can we retest it using m12 HO battery?
I have the Milwaukee one and to be honest I’ve only used it on sheet metal and it great for that, but as a plumber I hardly use it
Ryobi it is for me.. thanks for the vids.. now im happy with my choice to buy this black friday
I bought the M12 but the vast majority of my cutting is din rail, so the Milwaukee should handle that with no problem. The other reason I went with the Milwaukee is I was able to buy it as a combo from Home Depot with 3497-22 kit and a 2.5ah battery for $270, since I was looking to retire my Dewalt XRP 18 volt drill and impact driver, it made the purchase a no brainer.
The M12 shoe with dust collection makes it an excellent drywall saw in remodel applications. Specifically for older plaster products with steel inside corners, etc. A good diamond wheel and dust extraction setup with a big cell and you can do seriously precise operations for remodeling purposes and save yourself a ton of extra drywall repair work later. And you can cut cats out of your old exhaust and get hundreds of bucks back from refiners using the same tool.
I wonder how the higher temperature of the metal gives any issue to the Milwaukee since it is going second
Higher voltage will make more power with less heat. The only advantage Milwaukee has is smaller size but its higher current output leads to more overheating thus more motor cutoff.
The Milwaukee does great with a full battery, but as soon as it drops 2 cells, it starts cutting out when pushed. Thanks for watching.
Lol if the Milwaukee was m18 you would be put to shame 😂😂
Heat is proportional to power, so you are 100% wrong on that one.
@@suzesiviter6083
You better learn about AC & DC and the difference between VOLTAGE and CURRENT before you make such ignorant comments.
@@TheGomezIndustries P=V*I = V*2/R =I^2 *R
So V is proportional to power (at same current levels) and heating is a function of power, that's why heaters state their power rating in kW.
Have had the Ryobi for 2 years, and its honestly been one of my favorite tools. Sadly today it smoked itself. I have damn near every M12 tool, but a fair amount of Ryobi too.
Talked a guy at work and he got the Rigid, which is trash. Now i am.debating getting another Ryobi, or the M12. I carrying M12/M18 for work and have everything in packouts...would hate to have to carry excess Ryobi batteries, but it had been a damn good tool!
What did you end up buying?
I own the Milwaukee its ok tool running on 4ah battery it still bogs down, and I also own ryobi 18v 4 ah batteries, I think I am sold on ryobi on this tool , thank you for your informative videos
Until u have to do a cut in a tight space and your handle obstructs something
Good video!...
in my case,i go with ryobi since its my platform,and i won't complicate it...one brand,same charger,and batteries.
Good choice and makes sense. Thanks for watching.
I got some ryobi brushless tools. If it goes into cutout mode you have to pull the battery for a second and put it back in. It will turn on again.
It was Not in cut-out mode. The battery was definitely dead. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I came to make this cut off. It will not reset until you remove the battery.
These results are surprising. It looks like the Ryobi cut off saws have at least changed in appearance since this video. I am so deeply invested in the Milwaukee
line of tools now it is difficult to swap. I do love the M12 tools but their batteries definitely seem to have problems. I have had several of them fail and die
over time. I always try to get full size M18 tools because in all the years I have had them I have never had an M18 battery fail or even get weak.
Great review :-)
Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for the kind comment.
Forgive me for asking if this is stupid… I’ve used angle grinders several times for masonry repair and cutting various items. Never heard of these cut off tools until recently, and being invested in M12 im interested. Is one better than the other? What can an angle grinder do that a cut off tool can’t do?
12V vs 18V needs to be taken into account. Ryobi makes good tools but they die fast as displayed. Good vid
I own dewalt ryobi and now Milwaukee m12 tools. Out of all they do well for what I use them for
Can a cut off tool cut through a thick round disk storage lock or should I just buy an angle grinder?
Milwaukee puts this cut out feature in a lot of their tools. It's to protect the motor from overheating. While it sounds good on paper, it can be irritating during use, as you see here. Maybe they should just put heavier duty motors in their products. But then the tool would be bigger. Also if you could push the tool harder, the battery wouldn't last as long. It's all about compromise.
Like you said, these weren't meant to do heavy work. Use them for what they were designed for and they will do just fine.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
They are very compact i think thts what they going for good power for its size
i guarantee you in this case it's not the tool over heating it's cutting out to protect the battery.. most of my M12 tools using the smaller batteries loose a significant amount of power when it hits 2 bars.. going to a 4 or 6 amp battery the power loose is not as noticeable thus it doesn't cut out as much under heavy use..
Will the dust extractor for the Milwaukee work with the Ryobi?
Battery wasn't dead.. It cut off mode take battery out and put back in for ryobi.. But good demo👍
Thanks for watching.
are they fit any blade to cur wood?
Great review! On the fence about getting the Milwaukee. I have some M12 and also into the dewalt 20v line. Dewalt is releasing there 20v cutoff tool it’s model No.DCS438. Would love to see a showdown between these. Great review keep up the good work!
What did you end up going with?
I’m surprised Milwaukee hasn’t released a M18 cut off tool
It would be nice to compare these to Bosch 12v cut off tool. Bosch is definitely lighter and smaller with 2-2,5 Ah battery, also brushless but lacks LED lighting, speed and direction controls
My Milwaukee 3” cut off even with a 6.0 battery has issues cutting 26 gauge smoke pipe, and that’s thin stuff. It bogs down and stops all the time, it is imo a big waste of time and money. Going to pick up the Dewalt 3” cut off when it’s available, the Milwaukee will be going on eBay!
Curious about the high output batteries…
You doubled in subs since the last time I was on the channel
Yes, things are picking up pretty quick, and we hope it stays this way. Thanks for watching.
I'm not sure if we have this bigger 3 ah batteries in stores available, but with a regular 3 ah smaller battery, milwaukee cut off tool is way more compact then Ryobi. If you need speed and power go for 18v. But when size and weight comes to play milwaukee m12 platform is hard to beat.
Yes, both of these cut-off tools are great specialty tools when used properly. Thanks for watching.
a comparison between the largest batteries available for each would also be very handy. the 18v is a lot bigger tool so the much larger highest capacity battery shouldn't be too much of a stretch vs 6ah m12. Also I'd really like my Milwaukee's to have the metal depth guide the ryobi has vs having to put the big dust hood on. Going through sheets of drywall and the like while on walls it's very important to set max depth.
I have the Milwaukee cut off and have a 6.0 and it still has issues with bogging down cutting out/overheating and draining the 6.0 like it was a 2.0.
If you have Dewalt batteries I would wait for the Dewalt 3” cut off 20v XR to come out. It might be bigger, but it will probably get the job done. The Milwaukee is like a toy, small and somewhat convenient, but it will only frustrate you, give you a headache and waste your time!
@@akaredcrossbow I now have 2 Milwaukee cutoffs
I still wish there was a metal guide to quickly set depth but so far I've cut a lot of drywall, cement board, some cement and some aluminum and brass and a lot of steel haven't had any bogging down. I have not used it to cut tile and granite yet but I plan to soon. Hope it does reasonably well with those.
Also haven't tried large jobs... Would use angle grinder or the like on something bigger like a lot to steel or cement
@@RH-nc8uu I’m wondering if the tool is a hit or miss, maybe some like mine had production issues. I do see a lot of mixed reviews, some work flawlessly and some have problems like I do with it.
@@akaredcrossbow maybe I watched some of the video reviews then bought and have been very happy. I have mostly been using 4ah batteries. I also have only used it for very small things like cutting through a few heavy duty padlocks (yes mine) and several bolts, nuts, some heavy gage steel sheets but only several inches at a time. So I may not be hitting the limits of issues. It does wonderfully through cementboard, drywall, stucco etc. Great in remodels. I also used on pipes. It's very handy for me. Have a few oscillating tools (my eyes are on the new makita), Dremels, makita and dewalt cordless routers, used to have a rotozip, etc and like this for a lot of the things I have used those for have several cordless angle grinders and old made in germany corded metabos... I prefer this for a lot I'd have to grab those for in past. Small jobs though.
Have my eyes on finding good wood circular blade (watched reviews on generic amazon wood blade... whichn I am hesitant on) as well as the 3inch Diablo blade for stone. Do see that for order and not in my local home depots.
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Believe it or not , most users simply use whatever they have commonly available in their shop or tool bag.
Very few would run out to the store to get the biggest battery available for their first usage.
This is why you will see newbies buy a bare tool snowblower or lawnmower or a circular saw or a full size angle grinder, or a chain saw with a feeble 1.5 - 2 ah battery 🔋 complained loudly in their lousy product reviews. 😅😂
Hello there from Montreal Canada 🇨🇦 I have a question where can I get a 3 inch cut of wheels for wood 🪵, like thin plywood or thin press wood just an example or do the 3 inch cut of wood wheels exist??? Thank u for sharing love yr videos 😃🍺👊🇨🇦
The Dremel 3" Saw Max blades are available online or at stores. I'll put a link below. Thanks for watching.
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I was using my Milwaukee today just to get some use out of it, cutting some 5” exhaust pipe. No thicker than the aluminum you were cutting. Definitely goes into cutout mode really fast. You have to baby it for sure (not pushing it) doesn’t do to bad. Didn’t cut as fast as the chop saw but the chop saw we have doesn’t cut as clean. Which saved me some time in that aspect
They definitely don't react well to applying much force. You really have to let the wheel do the cutting. They're both still very useful tools, as you mention, but you have to know the limitations. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Hi guys. Does anybody knows about the wall-cutting whit cut-off saw?! I want to chase the wall whit this machine. Is this possible?
The Ryobi may have gone into protect mode. You should have tried removing the battery when it quit running. I've seen videos of Ryobi tools going into protect mode without the flashing lights, and reinstalling the battery puts it right back in the game. That's why I hate the Ryobi batteries that don't have a fuel gauge.
Ryobi and Milwaukee and rigid are all owned by same company, TTI, so that’s why all there tools look so similar, look at the rigid 1/2 high torque impact and the Milwaukee, they look identical just one orange and other is red. This tool is also same just newer with a little new tech
When the ryobi goes in cutout mode the battery won’t light up with the power indicator. To reset you pull the battery and put back in. My guess is the battery is far from dead.
I love my Ryobi cordless tools.
There is a new makita cut of tool now, but why would you use cut off tool over a grinder?
Works as advertised
Good video. Consider also, both tools are owned by the same company.
Yes they are, and I've mentioned this in several comments. Thanks for watching.
I thing they are manufactured by TTI RYOBI RIDGID MILWAUKEE AND ONE MORE BRAND CANT REMEMBER
5 years ago I was watching handgun comparisons
Could you try Ryobi vs hercules from harfordfreig tool
I feel the same way about these as I do with an oscillating tool. I'm sure there's a good reason to buy one, but I can't think what that might be. Already have a variety of angle grinders, sawzalls, portaband, and yes, an oscillating tool.
Im an electrician and these things kick ass when it comes to cutting tile and plaster.
The oscillating tools are great because they're way less violent than an angle grinder or recip saw, and they're phenomenal for drywall cuts. Now these guys are great for tight spaces on things like conduit and small copper pipe, or tile work where an angle grinder would cause more harm than good
Nobody mentioned the fact that he was using a standard 2 amp hour Ryobi battery instead of the HP battery that delivers higher performance to the saw?
He addressed this in the video. Hp tools only benefit from hp batteries if the tool has the extra contacts. If the tool doesn't draw more current than a regular battery can provide then it doesn't make a difference
All you needed to do with the ryobi was unplug the battery and reinstall it. It should have kept working
I have been using the m12 for a while and I find it cuts faster if you back off and take advantage of it's rpms
You are correct, if you keep the speed up on the wheel, it will cut faster. Thanks for watching.
Interesting. I have both platforms for different purposes. I also have DeWalt for heavy duty work.
I have been looking at the M12 cut off tool, but based upon what I might use it for, I might just go with the Ryobi...for this specific tool that will have specific light duty purposes... I mostly use my Ryobi tools for outdoor, hand trimmers, pole saw, misting fan. I did buy a hammer drill but on a job where I was using hammer drills on brick/mortar, with two different bits, I had the DeWalt and the Ryobi and ended up changing bits on the DeWalt due to how frustrating the Ryobi was.
My M12 tools mostly will be dedicated to the travel trailer for camping purposes. The foot print inside the storage area is substantially less than the DeWalt. The spaces your work in are much tighter also. M12 platform is great for this.
Very good point, the M12 tools offer a much more compact size. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews From the video, this particular Ryobi tool looks roughly the same size. Is that true?
18v is pretty more powerful than 12v. I'm impressed that the 12v Milwaukee almost kept up With the Ryobi
The biggest thing with the Milwaukee is that you can't bind the blade in any way. Has to be 99% straight cut or it will stall.
Yes, actually either of these will stall if the blade binds at all. They're still very useful tools, but they're not high-powered beasts. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews Yup. I love it. Perfect for small tile jobs. Dust extraction is why I bought it originally. No need to go outside to cut. And uses the same batteries as my other dozen M12 tools.
So it work just like a air die grinder
I've got the m12 I've had to switch to a 3amp battery to use it in a tight area. Can't do that with the Ryobi. Other than that they are the same
You can get the milwaukee for $113 4ah kit now if you pick the ratchet as your free tool.
What is the advantage of using this over an angle grinder? What situations would I use this over a grinder?
This is just a handier and more compact tool to use. It definitely doesn't have the power of a full-size 4-1/2" angle grinder. Thanks for watching.
Yeah, I was working on an Airstream trailer on numerous outriggers in very tight quarters. My 4.5” grinder was often too big/long to make certain cuts. This smaller tool would’ve made the job easier.
How in the hell did the bon the builder tools put preform a Milwaukee? Kinda impressed with that Ryobi honestly but i just picked up the Milwaukee mostly to cut 3/4"-1" conduit so im sure it will be just fine
It's battery. 18v still allows a bit more power.
If you compare 18v to 18v Milwaukee Ryobi it's no contest
I have the Milwaukee one. It stalled at least 5 times on one cut of M8 (appx 5/16") threaded rod with the included abrasive disc. And this was with me trying to be as careful as I can to avoid putting pressure on the rod or rubbing on the sides of the cut. I thought this was normal when I saw a video of someone stalling it cutting a #8 wood screw. Should I contact Milw?
Cuts plastic great though.
Once the battery drops to 2 bars, it drops in power pretty significantly.
Yea but its a 18v ryobi tool vs a 12v Milwaukee tool. Doesn’t seem fair. Now if it was 18v vs 18v then there something to talk about
Milwaukee dosent make an 18v version
@@cd5732 yes I know I just don’t like comparing things when it’s not a apples to apples comparison
It's apples to apples because there's only 3 tools like this made: Ryobi, Ridgid, and Milwaukee. You don't have a real choice, other than changing battery Ah sizes. By the way, TTi makes all 3 of them. It's a fair comparison. Thanks for watching.
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I would disagree about it being apples to apples or a fair comparison, however, as you stated there isn't much else to compare it to. The wh compassion doesn't mean much in this case either since they are different voltage batteries. It does show an equal volume of energy but the higher voltage tool will consume the energy faster as demonstrated by the ryobi battery being depleted first although having the same "wh" rating. The higher energy consumption was also demonstrated by the higher performance of the ryobi tool which is why this is not an apples to apples or fair comparison but is still an informative video.
@@JD-jj6dd no the higher voltage tool works more efficiently due to lower internal resistance. The royobi ran flat slightly faster due to it using a lower amp battery. There are ➕ & ➖ to them both , you want super compact , go with the red , you want more power 🔋 go with the green , either tool punches way above there compact weight
If the ryobi goes in lock out you can take battery out and put back in to reset it
I’m on all 3 of the platforms, Milwaukee M12, Rigid, and Ryobi. So in your honest opinion of the three which would you go with?
DeWALT. ;)
…but, seriously, the DCS438 smokes them all.
That would be great but not on that platform! It’s gonna be the Ridgid, TTC has testing on these and the Ridgid kicked butt! The DeWalt I believe barely edged out the Ridgid but it is still much bigger in size.
Im wondering if the ryobi battery ever gets in the way from doing a job since it is far from flush. M12 can go into a CP battery for space. Not sure if this has real life application
Only issue is the xc battery was already struggling to supply power. You'd need the new high output 2.5ah to stand a chance
I'd rather have the Ryobi with a extra 2A battery or larger than the slow cutting of the Milwaukee and I have tools of both brands.
Can you put saw blades on the ryobi for cutting nonferrous metal like aluminum? Mostly I use my circular saw for this, but having a smaller and more easily controlled saw would be good until you get to around 3/4 or 1 inch thick stock, especially things like 1/4 inch plate. I have a plug in Dremel that I'm going to switch to for a lot of this, but I think it may not last as the last job was cutting a bunch of concrete board and the venting is poor, so I may need a need tool like this. I have lots of ryobi batteries up from 1ah to the 9 ah, they released this tool after I bought the Dremel.
No, I don't believe they make saw blades for these, and I'm not so sure that the motor would be powerful enough to turn it. Also, the saw blade would need to be capable of spinning 20K rpm. Thanks for watching.
how they compare weight wise? and handling? which feels more comfortable?
from the video with the batteries on, they both look to be about the same size and weight? I'm just curious if the m12 is really that much smaller
They're pretty much the identical tool, other than the battery. Of course the M12 battery is smaller. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews thanks!
Just an FYI, all the new batteries have meters for ryobi. Even the cheaper regular 1.5
Great point. Thanks for watching.
Is there direct competition to these that's pneumatically powered?
Other way around. These came out to compete with pneumatic cut-off tools
I see the quality of both tools, however for the average homeowner they generally gravitate towards Ryobi for one reason, price. Professional’s always seem to brag about Milwaukee and consider Ryobi cheap and are willing to spend much more to back up that claim.
Awesome review I have the ridgid and ryobi I beat the hell out of the ridgid but it’s LSA glad ridgid hasn’t let me down
Thanks. Yes, the Ridgid is pretty much the same. Great choice on getting the LSA. Can't beat that. Thanks for watching.
I have both Ryobi and Milwaukee M12 tools. I think that your run time comparison is inaccurate. The Milwaukee will reset after releasing the trigger for a few seconds, but to reset the Ryobi, you have to remove and reinsert the battery.
Metabo hast both a 12v and a 18v version
Had the same thing happen to me out on the field with the m12 cut off with the 6.0 battery. Kept cutting off power when I was cutting frp boards. My boss ryobi powered through the cuts but the battery wasn’t that great. I wish Milwaukee would make an m18 fuel version
i prefer this style of tool for doing metal roofs over using the electric snips, i use it just like a mini circ saw with the little shoe on
I didn't think these were approved for metal roofs. Most metal roofing manufacturers don't approve of any cutting tool like this and they won't warranty any issues. Thanks for watching.
@@Shoptoolreviews i use it for the metal roofing for planter boxes, inserts into cabinets and other stuff like that not on roofs but the same materials.
Can you use these tools if you're left handed
Yes, they work for lefties too.
Can you do vs rigid cutoff tool
We may do this soon. Thanks for watching.
These would be so much better with an off angle motor using a worm drive.
The cutout on the ryobi you need to remove battery and plug it back in.
Because the battery is cutting off not the tool
Let the disc do the work. If the tool is bogging down, then you are doing it wrong. Yes, the Ryobi has more power and can cut faster, that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. But the Milwaukee will get the job done if you don't try and force it. It will just be a bit slower. This is one of those applications where the higher voltage tools have a real advantage and can use the extra power the 18V batteries can provide. But the 12V tools are lighter. That's your tradeoff.
I've had the Milwaukee for months. It's Absolutely gutless and goes into cut out mode constantly no matter if you're using a 1.5 amp hour or 6.0 amp hour battery. I nearly threw it away within 10 minutes of owning it. This is not a pro tool in any way and feels 100% like something I'd get from Harbor Freight.
It's definitely a tool for lighter work. What type of work were you doing with it? Thanks for commenting.
@@Shoptoolreviews I bought it for steel work. Anything more than sheet metal is asking too much. I've learned how to use it where I baby it to get it through the cut. It's just frustrating. From the video it appears the Ryobi is the better tool.
Im a truck mechanic and i have the Milwaukee almost a year i love it.... My colleagues went snd bought one each to. Ive cut through some pretty thick bolts with it.
@@sixtyfiveford late but you should return yours you got a defective one I’ve cut off 1inch bolts no problem
@@SamuraiAtlas It will cut it, It's just gutless and has to be babied. Definitely doesn't have the power you would expect from a professional tool.
when the Ryobi cuts out, you need to pull the battery to reset it.
I have alot of cheap Ryobi tools they work great at cheaper price.
Can't argue with that. Thanks for watching.
What no battery indicator on the green tool. I'm out. Anyway not fair comparing 12v to 18v. If the Milwaukee was 18v it would blow the green one away.
Wheel on ryobi looks much smaller after 1/2" rod???
You are correct, the Ryobi wheel was a little smaller at the end. More power equated to a little more force applied to the wheel . Thanks for watching.
If u didn't notice , he sucks at this .
That has to do with consistencies with the pounds of pressure applied since he was doing it by hand... Means absolutely nothing go and watch project farms unbiased reviews he uses a 10 lb weight for each tool so there's no inconsistency
@@mediumgrey8674 so do you
I have the M12 Version and it has it uses like Aluminium trimmings that i cut regulary by hand in 45%. Its light and you have more control of the blade as on an 18V grinder especially if you work one handed.
For more this tool seems at least for me its not more usable
Yes, the M12 is very handy. Thanks for watching.
Is say the dewalt version would smoke both of these. Be fun to see
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I love slide-in battery over plug-in battery.
Both of these are post batteries that plug in vs slide in. Thanks for watching.
The Milwaukee 12v batteries can be a little difficult to disengage. Release clips work so-so.
I bet if you put the new 5.0 Hight Output battery in the Milwaukee, it would give it more power.
Yes, it probably would make a difference. Thanks for watching.
The milwaukee has an anti kick back in i believe
I don't expect Milwaukee is better because it is 12v. They are made by same company and both are brushed. The disc is too expensive, so I returned the tool. I will think about buying one if the disc is under $2.
Diablo sells a 3” metal cutting disc now at Home Depot, it’s a five pack and they sell it just under $6, much better than the Milwaukee discs.
I have the Milwaukee cut off tool, and the best bet is to wait if you can for the Dewalt 20v XR to come out, should be out soon I believe.