Awesome stuff Preach, can't wait to see the gameplay. I've been using Remorseless Winter to help out the tank if things are going bad. I've only used Gorefiends Grasp once or twice to try it out but after all the good things you've been saying about it, I can't wait to get home and try it out properly, maybe make a target focus macro for it and just keep the tank focused. Gratz on the 20k subs btw! The channel has come along way in such a short time! Keep up the good work!!
My mate told me about you and I just want to say thanks for everything, this helped me out and he is playing a damage warlock and he is pumping out loads of damage like me, so thank you :D
Watched this twice, read Elitists Jerks page on frosties, then kicked ass with shitty gear. Thanks so much Mike! You explained a lot of stuff that I took for granted in Cata and Litch. (Had no idea the frosty "parenthesis" were Killing! ) Only started on Panderia five days ago and in all Cata gear right now, but I'm topping the Recount in dungeons. Can't wait to get the good shit. Thanks again!
Nice video man. You forgot to mention soul reaper though. Yes it's probably less beneficial to a frost dk then the other specs, but it still seems to be a dps increase. Especially in raids where the boss is below 35% for a significant amount of time. I guess in 5 mans it's debatable since the mobs and bosses die so fast.
Love your videos, Preacher - I just wonder, have you tried focusing feks crit over haste? I hear everyone is going for haste, but what is the logical reason to do it? I just wonder if you tried several or you are going haste because of something you heard, or just say that it is the best, anyway thanks for the vid! ^^
I believe that the 2-handed playstyle is the way to go now and that the dual wielding play style might become better later. At least what I think he means.
ATM in the expansion, 2h is superior in single target because it has high burst damage. So I think that as the boss fights get longer, and we get more mastery (DW best secondary stat), DW will scale and surpass 2h.
I like the display like that, how would someone go about getting it? Because i tend to keep a constant look up left where the portrait is, and it screws me up.
The advantage with Unholy Blight is the ability to basically Obliterate more. Though Plague Leech is still slightly superior. Should also mention that Blood Tap really removes RNG and smooths out your rotation. If you are worried about a extra button to keep track of, just macro Blood Tap to everything. A glyphed AMS will absorb 100% of the magic damage and make it RP, therefore it is a DPS increase. Lastly, I don't think Frost Strike is effected by diseases.
Could you tell me what specific addons you are using? Inclouding the one that changed your interface and action bars display? Thanks in advance and very helpfull vid :)
hey preach do u think frost falls behind as you gain more gear compared to unholy. the reason why i ask this is because i leveled as frost just to make it faster and did a few lfrs with low gear and pulled out ok dps. when i got a bi more gear then i switched to unholy tried it out and then back to frost to see witch one was best an for me it was unholy in most fights. just wanting to know your opinion as i like oth the specs and you are a dk master :).
Quick question Preach! What addon is that you have that shows the enemy's health bar and than its dots or plagues above it. that looks nice and i def wanna get it
Preach, I just dusted off my DK and started leveling him (current level 62) and I have to disagree with you on death siphon. On most mobs in Outland I'm knocking 40-50% of their health away with this spell (plus it heals me). Net effect is hugh. Can't see why anyone wouldn't take this. Does this spell not scale well for end game content? Great work as usual.
I'm just starting to play a frost dk she's 58 at the moment. what advice can you give for those just starting at this level?. Thank you in advance & love the vids ty Preacher. =)
whats the addon called that u use to see runes and runic power - the big one slight off center to the left above the actionbars? looks big and easy to use :)
I believe dw is more stat based, therefor once gear scaling is a higher average/easier to achieve, going dw would become the better option. Or it could just be that in this patch 2h is just purely ahead of dw.
i agree with almost everythin that you said there but i think that the death siphon is a great spell i use it all the time its healing you and instead taking health from your minion you are doing a big amount of damage on your enemy and the get =even more healing for doing it it really good in PvP
That is all well and good but I would like to mention that death siphon has to be the best rather then death pact. Death pact has a 2 min cooldown while death siphon may cost you death runes but they recharge every 10 seconds and you get 150% in health of whatever damage you do. That being said though unholy dk is a highlight for me with their reaping ability that gives 4 of your runes to be death runes whcih gives the chance to use death siphon 4 times or blood boil 4 times and kick butt. :D
Quick rotation question: I find that if I replace icy touch with howling blast I get killing machine MUCH more often, and it does more damage along with the nice AOE. My DK is only lvl 65 atm so will this change over time?
What kind of spellflash u use, yesterday I downloaded a some spellflash from curse client to it and it said that it is not updated and therefore does not work :(
Runic corruption as far as im concerned is always better for 2H frost dk's as the uptime of that 300% rune regen increase actually scales with Haste. so considering haste is godly for 2h frost that corruption ability just works out to be far better overall especially when raiding
So basically: 2H Frost is top DK DPS; Stack Haste/Crit with reforging (after hit/exp capping); Stack Strength with gems unless needing that nice gem bonus/needing the extra hit; Use the same rotation from 4.3.4. Accurate summary? Thumb it up for people who haven't the time to watch a 16 minute video (but i would ask that those people do still like the video...really useful/helpful information so show some appreciation
Dw is currently ahead... at best scenario dw is now ahead due to the higher amount of 1hs in end game raiding. But up to ones playstyle and weapons like you said
a word to all the other Frosties reading this, though Tranquil grip can be helpful it also can be just as crippling. This is only due to the fact that we dps dk's only have one taunt available now (Death Grip) so using the glyph will take away your only available taunt. So if your tank is in a pinch and needs someone to taunt off (maybe cause the 2nd tank is dead or something) you will not be able to do squat.
Preach you said that we shouldn't be dualwielding...yet. Why not now? I understand that two handed is ahead in dps but is it a major dps loss to go dual wield or just a personal choice?
Dual Wielding is dependent on mastery to scale into high damage, while 2-Hand is not. There is really not enough mastery yet to say that Dual Wield is entirely better in terms of out scaling 2-Hand, hence the "yet" he said.
Death Pact is useful as a very good quick heal, it's going to help you (and your healers) during spike damage (or any damage that takes 1/2 your life). It's very easy to use and doesn't get in the way of your dps with a very simple macro that summons your ghoul and casts death pact at the same time (so you don't have to have one out already). Here it is: #showtooltip Raise Dead /cast Raise Dead /cast Death Pact
If you mouse over your hit chance number you'll get a tooltip showing your miss chance from your current number all the way to skull. If all those miss chances say 0.00% then you're capped. :)
You see Death siphon though at least where im at at lvl 70 strikes consistently for 6-12 k pve and pvp plus heals you for around 5k and that is amazing even though i costs a rune and will always put you on top in bgs
what about if your a frost dk and your always in unholy spec for better dps ? i mean i can do better in unholy dps spec but im a frost talent tree ? please let me know what u think cuz i can only do 20k-23k dps solo i need more lol
While doing AoE, if you're using RE, you should always keep one unholy rune up. Why? Because when you Frost Strike, RE will have a chance to proc a fully depleted rune, which your unholy rune is not, which will mean more HB coming death and frost runes. Now, when that one unholy runes comes up, you want to use it so it keeps recharging, so if you have both your diseases up, you can Pestilence, or DnD, or even Obliterate if everything else is on CD for a chance for a Rime proc.
lol this would help me if i understand half this stuff :P and how come no one ever had just the core game like as soon as u download u play and keep the game like that?
No. You still need a lot of haste even as DW, as you need the rune regen rate also. Yes, Masterfrost is a massive dps increase over hastefrost (Mfrost using HB while HFrost uses Oblit to build RP).
Stoked for the gameplay vid Preach. Grats on 20k subscribers as well.
Wow, this is an awesome video. Been looking for something like this for a long time. Thank you so much, very happy I found your channel. Subscribed :)
Awesome stuff Preach, can't wait to see the gameplay. I've been using Remorseless Winter to help out the tank if things are going bad. I've only used Gorefiends Grasp once or twice to try it out but after all the good things you've been saying about it, I can't wait to get home and try it out properly, maybe make a target focus macro for it and just keep the tank focused. Gratz on the 20k subs btw! The channel has come along way in such a short time! Keep up the good work!!
Grats on 20k subs mate! big brofist! Keep doing what you do.
My mate told me about you and I just want to say thanks for everything, this helped me out and he is playing a damage warlock and he is pumping out loads of damage like me, so thank you :D
Wow man, I really like how enthusiastic you are, this was awesome! :D
GRATZ TO 20K SUBS PREACHERMAN!!!!!!!!
Keep it going
Didnt want to lvl my Dk to 90 anytime soon before watching this ..... Gonna start it tommorow, you really sold it to me :)
Watched this twice, read Elitists Jerks page on frosties, then kicked ass with shitty gear. Thanks so much Mike! You explained a lot of stuff that I took for granted in Cata and Litch. (Had no idea the frosty "parenthesis" were Killing! ) Only started on Panderia five days ago and in all Cata gear right now, but I'm topping the Recount in dungeons. Can't wait to get the good shit. Thanks again!
what a badass intro and great video btw
Absolutely loving my frost DK atm.
You are soo good!
U really helpt me out .
Keep up the good work ;)
whens the upload for the gameplay coming I can't wait to see preach destroy the dungeon
thanks alot, this video really helped me with my frost dps and i agree that is a wonderfull class :)
Love your videos! keep it up man!
Nice video man. You forgot to mention soul reaper though. Yes it's probably less beneficial to a frost dk then the other specs, but it still seems to be a dps increase. Especially in raids where the boss is below 35% for a significant amount of time. I guess in 5 mans it's debatable since the mobs and bosses die so fast.
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Love your videos, Preacher - I just wonder, have you tried focusing feks crit over haste? I hear everyone is going for haste, but what is the logical reason to do it? I just wonder if you tried several or you are going haste because of something you heard, or just say that it is the best, anyway thanks for the vid! ^^
I believe that the 2-handed playstyle is the way to go now and that the dual wielding play style might become better later. At least what I think he means.
always enjoy ur help
Great video...should howling blast be on cooldown everytime it's up ? Or do u only use it for aoe and rime procs ?
Love your vids, Deployed and may have a chance to get back in to it soon! keep it up
ATM in the expansion, 2h is superior in single target because it has high burst damage. So I think that as the boss fights get longer, and we get more mastery (DW best secondary stat), DW will scale and surpass 2h.
He was ranked number 1 in the world for frost dks for an extended period of time. He was literally the best of the best of the best.
gz on 20k preach. also, its rime not ryme
THANK YOU for explaining plague leech!
Why, yes. Yes he is, my fellow baller.
I like the display like that, how would someone go about getting it? Because i tend to keep a constant look up left where the portrait is, and it screws me up.
hi there! which addon do you use to show your diseases over the enemies? very nice vid by the way!!!
the cd is still 1 min . when you use it , it takes 1 min to use it again , that means a 1 min cd
The advantage with Unholy Blight is the ability to basically Obliterate more. Though Plague Leech is still slightly superior. Should also mention that Blood Tap really removes RNG and smooths out your rotation. If you are worried about a extra button to keep track of, just macro Blood Tap to everything. A glyphed AMS will absorb 100% of the magic damage and make it RP, therefore it is a DPS increase. Lastly, I don't think Frost Strike is effected by diseases.
Could you tell me what specific addons you are using? Inclouding the one that changed your interface and action bars display? Thanks in advance and very helpfull vid :)
you can update all of your addons via curse. I updated magic runes 3 days ago using curse.
how do i know when i have reached the "Hit Cap"? i know how to look it up under character sheet but its just numbers when do i know when to stop
hey preach do u think frost falls behind as you gain more gear compared to unholy. the reason why i ask this is because i leveled as frost just to make it faster and did a few lfrs with low gear and pulled out ok dps. when i got a bi more gear then i switched to unholy tried it out and then back to frost to see witch one was best an for me it was unholy in most fights. just wanting to know your opinion as i like oth the specs and you are a dk master :).
Quick question Preach! What addon is that you have that shows the enemy's health bar and than its dots or plagues above it. that looks nice and i def wanna get it
hey preach did you made a video for ret paladin , im really looking for this
Preach would you mind letting me know what add-ons that you use? I like your DK set up it looks very nice
Preach, I just dusted off my DK and started leveling him (current level 62) and I have to disagree with you on death siphon. On most mobs in Outland I'm knocking 40-50% of their health away with this spell (plus it heals me). Net effect is hugh. Can't see why anyone wouldn't take this. Does this spell not scale well for end game content?
Great work as usual.
I'm just starting to play a frost dk she's 58 at the moment.
what advice can you give for those just starting at this level?.
Thank you in advance & love the vids ty Preacher. =)
How do you set the magic runes to display like that it's default is 2 columns and 7 rows instead of 7 columns and 2 rows
Piller of Frost is actually a 40 sec cd because it lasts 20 sec.
In the world in the world in the world in the world in the world in the world in the world. what were you?
whats the addon called that u use to see runes and runic power - the big one slight off center to the left above the actionbars? looks big and easy to use :)
Death Knights represent!
Out of Date
Death Pact now absorbs Healing!
what are the addons health and the ones on the side called i like them i wanna to get them good vid im trying out a frost dk
I believe dw is more stat based, therefor once gear scaling is a higher average/easier to achieve, going dw would become the better option.
Or it could just be that in this patch 2h is just purely ahead of dw.
@sonnyducks i think cuz dks are a melee class, the net isnt as useful
i agree with almost everythin that you said there but i think that the death siphon is a great spell i use it all the time its healing you and instead taking health from your minion you are doing a big amount of damage on your enemy and the get =even more healing for doing it it really good in PvP
That is all well and good but I would like to mention that death siphon has to be the best rather then death pact. Death pact has a 2 min cooldown while death siphon may cost you death runes but they recharge every 10 seconds and you get 150% in health of whatever damage you do. That being said though unholy dk is a highlight for me with their reaping ability that gives 4 of your runes to be death runes whcih gives the chance to use death siphon 4 times or blood boil 4 times and kick butt. :D
i looked on curse and the magic runes addon is out of date any one got a link for me that works?
Quick rotation question: I find that if I replace icy touch with howling blast I get killing machine MUCH more often, and it does more damage along with the nice AOE. My DK is only lvl 65 atm so will this change over time?
What kind of spellflash u use, yesterday I downloaded a some spellflash from curse client to it and it said that it is not updated and therefore does not work :(
HEY PREACH!! i have a question, will blood pact still be the best talent choice in 5.2? death siphon and conversion are getting buffed
Runic corruption as far as im concerned is always better for 2H frost dk's as the uptime of that 300% rune regen increase actually scales with Haste. so considering haste is godly for 2h frost that corruption ability just works out to be far better overall especially when raiding
So basically: 2H Frost is top DK DPS; Stack Haste/Crit with reforging (after hit/exp capping); Stack Strength with gems unless needing that nice gem bonus/needing the extra hit; Use the same rotation from 4.3.4. Accurate summary? Thumb it up for people who haven't the time to watch a 16 minute video (but i would ask that those people do still like the video...really useful/helpful information so show some appreciation
Dw is currently ahead... at best scenario dw is now ahead due to the higher amount of 1hs in end game raiding. But up to ones playstyle and weapons like you said
a word to all the other Frosties reading this, though Tranquil grip can be helpful it also can be just as crippling. This is only due to the fact that we dps dk's only have one taunt available now (Death Grip) so using the glyph will take away your only available taunt. So if your tank is in a pinch and needs someone to taunt off (maybe cause the 2nd tank is dead or something) you will not be able to do squat.
What would you consider a nice set bonus? Other than Strength bonuses
anyone knows what's the addon for the huge healthy bar? Lots of people use that
press v, it's not an add on
It is Pitbull Frames
what enchantment do you use on your wep? this is probably an obvious answer but i cant choose between razorice and fallen crusader?
what do you use to bind keys to spells, not bar slots
Mike I got two questions: Wasn't your DK an orc in Cata and is it still your main in MoP?
i find all meele dmg toutorials but not ret pala???
Preach you said that we shouldn't be dualwielding...yet. Why not now? I understand that two handed is ahead in dps but is it a major dps loss to go dual wield or just a personal choice?
Just learning frost dk. What's Death Pact for? I thought we very rarely had minions. I don't think I'll get to use this much.
Thank you. I'm going to start using that macro. I've been using Conversion, but this looks better.
Yeh he did worlds best dps on every t11 bosses as frost dk
Dual Wielding is dependent on mastery to scale into high damage, while 2-Hand is not. There is really not enough mastery yet to say that Dual Wield is entirely better in terms of out scaling 2-Hand, hence the "yet" he said.
can i just ask how you get your name text off of pitbull unitframes?
Blood tap gives you a lot more control how and when you use your runes
Would you prioritze mastery over haste, for a dual wield frost DK?
what kind of single target dps should a 483 pve frost dk be doing?
baller video
Death Pact is useful as a very good quick heal, it's going to help you (and your healers) during spike damage (or any damage that takes 1/2 your life). It's very easy to use and doesn't get in the way of your dps with a very simple macro that summons your ghoul and casts death pact at the same time (so you don't have to have one out already). Here it is:
#showtooltip Raise Dead
/cast Raise Dead
/cast Death Pact
wats the hit and expertise cap, i havent played wow in ages, and i forgot
I was about to take a siesta until I heard the Horn of Winter on the horizon.
It's his personal UI, he has a link on his channel i believe
Sick intro.
If you mouse over your hit chance number you'll get a tooltip showing your miss chance from your current number all the way to skull. If all those miss chances say 0.00% then you're capped. :)
Just a correction, diseases doesn't increase the dmg of Ur frost strike, otherwise, prty good guide.
You see
Death siphon though at least where im at at lvl 70 strikes consistently for 6-12 k pve and pvp plus heals you for around 5k and that is amazing even though i costs a rune and will always put you on top in bgs
what about if your a frost dk and your always in unholy spec for better dps ? i mean i can do better in unholy dps spec but im a frost talent tree ? please let me know what u think cuz i can only do 20k-23k dps solo i need more lol
where is the retribution paladin?
Why not keep runic power near zero, what do you need it for? IbF?
Dark Simulacrum is for pvp right?
When i get to 60 i always go death siphon, saved my ass so many times in BG's, and it's perfect with frost spec.
cool vid dude :)
While doing AoE, if you're using RE, you should always keep one unholy rune up. Why?
Because when you Frost Strike, RE will have a chance to proc a fully depleted rune, which your unholy rune is not, which will mean more HB coming death and frost runes. Now, when that one unholy runes comes up, you want to use it so it keeps recharging, so if you have both your diseases up, you can Pestilence, or DnD, or even Obliterate if everything else is on CD for a chance for a Rime proc.
How do I unlock more glyphs? I only have like 6
You can only have 6 active duh you can buy more from auction or get enscritption prof
hey what addon are you using for health bar?
What's your average item level? Frost damage scales up alot between 475-485 (depending on items etc) Try holding all the diseases up at all times.
lol this would help me if i understand half this stuff :P and how come no one ever had just the core game like as soon as u download u play and keep the game like that?
it means duel wield is bad unless you have really good swords, exactly what he said in the video
what is the expertise/hit cap?
No. You still need a lot of haste even as DW, as you need the rune regen rate also. Yes, Masterfrost is a massive dps increase over hastefrost (Mfrost using HB while HFrost uses Oblit to build RP).
Try to keep runic power at 60? I can't even get it above 40, much less worrying about capping it...
based on numbers DW is only minorly worse then 2h. the dps in miniscule (like 3k) so honestly its up to you whether you like 2h or dw
just macro blood tap to frost strike and you get the benefit without the management - plus it is the best of the three in 5.2