It's expecting a lot for an organization that required 15 FBI super detectives to distinguish the difference between a garage door pull rope and an unacceptable symbol of hatred, to make any decision for which they don't receive payment and can't shift the responsibility to someone else. Nascar is pathetic.
Yeah agreed 💯 Watching these clowns tear up cars before /after lap 2-3 and so on ... That's not professional, it's a frenzy for idiots that have 0 patience!
@SniperTrader7733 Preece turned down on him. End of race drivers get naturally more aggressive. Can't say, "If this didn't happen,..." because it did happen and it's part of racing.
If Backmarkers consistently "Stunk Up " either Big Bill or Bill, Jr's shows they would have got a talking to they wouldn't soon forget!!!!! Guys like Preece and Stenhouse set the stage and NASCAR loved it, until Logano (crash to win) and Hamlin (cry baby to basher and back) and a lot of the very fans who come only to see "wrecks" weren't satisfied. NASCAR is imploding.
Problem is Dillion actually didn't break any rules.. We know this because A) there no rule against bumping Joey outta the way 2) if the decision was based off the Hamlin contact, they've already set the precedent of a one race suspension.. They just don't want a driver setting in 32nd place ..in the playoffs. But thier the ones that made the win your in .. stipulation. Having the decision on race day would take away NASCAR control of the playoffs.. They would not be able to implement the rule they applied at a later date, if they made race day decisions..
No doubt about it Kenny the call should have been made Sunday after race. Right after every race it says Unofficial Results. With all the analytics they have today it can be done…
This is exactly why the points system never should of been changed but nascar wanted more excitement Kenny and the guy who usually wins at the end of the year doesn't deserve the championship on this ridiculous points and reset system
Bottom line all this crap is the falt of the fans that want to see races end on green. This started green white checkered. We can't even count how many cars have been wrecked and how many controversies have come from that decision The 300 mile race should be 300 miles no more no less green or caution
Kenny, I agree with you 100%. Also, in a "wet tire" race, NASCAR should not be telling the Driver/Teams which tire to run, and when to switch, on a drying track.
If it takes 3 days that means you're letting other people influence what is happening and if you don't think sponsorships dont control the final verdict then you just are blind
I was thinking the same thing toward the end of the video. It probably will happen down the road in some form or fashion. He would be a great "Third person on the panel" he was talking about
Sure would like to know how a nobody never was like Elton sawyer was handed the job. Probably some behind the scenes nepotism as usual. That’s like hiring someone who plays with model rockets to oversee NASA
@@douglasschmitt6645 Per the NASCAR rules there was no requirement for a fair, or bumper to bumper free, or High Integrity win. The WIN And Your IN strategy was designed to create exactly this situation!! Desperate drivers making desperate moves at the last moment for that win!!
This is so wrong in so many ways! It’s going to be fun to watch Denny or joes lose the points for a win after they punt some for the win . But that will never happen! This is bull shit !!!!
I agree with your take. As for Austin, I think it's "don't hate the player, hate the game" for him. At the same time, NASCAR should rule in minutes, not days, and go ahead and remove the win and everything. Don't just go halfway.
I agree with you Kenny. Who the hell is the governing body behind nascars judgements. If EVERY driver has to be present for EVERY race to qualify to compete for the cup, then NASCAR heads should be present for EVERY race to alleviate any issues arising at that race that night!
Neither would Dale Sr, Dale would not have agreed with the chase format, would have said this is to help those candy-a** drivers. When he died everything Nascar did afterwards has gone south, the diehard fans have left and few remained, i am a diehard fan, but Nascar decision making and rule changes mid season have gotten me half way out the door.
I wanna see if nascar holds thw same standard to drivers from hms Penske racing or JGR if they do no issues but if they turn a blind eye then its all bs
They suspended Chase a few years ago, they suspended Bubba (a JGR extension) So, I think they already have. The difference is the other suspensions didn't take driver's out of the playoffs. Otherwise, the precedent was already set.
@@LisaDouglasinhooterville You do know drivers set their speed off RPM, yes? Cup drivers have multiple visual aids to keep them from speeding, but everyone pushes the limits.
@@LisaDouglasinhootervilleYou do know drivers set their speed off RPM, yes? Cup drivers have multiple visual aids to keep them from speeding, but everyone pushes the limits.
Great idea to make the call right then. The Kentucky Derby officials take a few moments after every race before they announce the "official" results. Same principle.
@@garyjackson3531They wouldn't taken the playoff birth from bubba.. this just NASCAR protecting 23 XI the playoffs system. Not really about bubba but he's part of 23XI.. How you keep the win and not be eligible for the playoffs.. Hope Dillion can appeal this.. Past situations called for a one race suspension..
His boss getting wrecked and crying to NASCAR for 3 days is why they did it that way. They got protect that money they know Richard ain't going no where but Denny seems like the I'll take my ball and go home type if they don't act on his hissie fits.@@deliriouswhome1
Yes me too... Done with it... I even saw the 1979 Daytona 500... I'm 65 years old been a lifelong fan not anymore sick of it..... That finish was the only thing exciting about the whole damn race
Been watching since '82. Not going to watch anymore of their joke races. I'm not renewing my tickets to Darlington either. Man, I'm glad football will be here soon. NATZYCAR can't die fast enough as far as I'm concerned.
Kenny you crack me up, if I recall you were pointing a lot of the blame on spotter saying suspension what happen to him if any? Also what happened to Joey? I got a good way for NASCAR to kill five minutes of time why they think about the ruling! Have you explain it and telling everyone it was your idea!😂😂😂 great video keep it up 👍🏻
Once again NASCAR caves to the woke crowd. If anything they should penalize the 47 for bringing out the caution, Austin was going to win the race, Joey held back and rolled the start, he should have been penalized for that.
Define "danger" outside of Hamlin's injury. and show us examples where especially Logano (or whoever) has come in throttle into the back of someone from 4 or 5 car lengths and smashed them out the way into this danger you talk. .
I think like you Herm 😂 NASCAR needs to make their decision immediately. I don’t like seeing something later in the week. Weekly series( dirt, asphalt) makes their call during the race. Like it or not that is what we need back!! And don’t let drivers dictate nascar. NASCAR dictate NASCAR. Drivers dictate drivers. Thank you sir for your point of view!! Love it
Nascar took 3 days to make a right or wrong decision and Austin only had a couple of seconds. How is that fair. They took their time when Chastain ran the wall and didn't keep him out of the championship run.
I thought Joey Lagano was not in correct position during the restart as they approached the start line. I don't know why they didn't wave off the restart and force another restart. I don't get this lapse in officiating in-the-moment of the restart. The bump later wouldn't count anyway. BTW: didn't Joey Lagano bump someone to win in the last few years? I get it: this stage and playoff officiating is just getting to be too much for NASCAR incorporated to keep up with.
Yeah I thought Logano edged forward a bit early too. But look at Hamlin a few races Back. That was even worse and NASCAR did nothing then too. Truex Jr was pissed.
Racing hasn't been worth watching since you, and Rusty, + the rest of the greats aged out, retired, left racing, etc.!! The old cars, rules, regulations, rubbing, and bump drafting.! The biggest thing is the driver's.!! Back in the day, you had to work yourself to death to make it to the Big League, like your brother did, and all the other old greats.!! I don't watch it anymore, but I like your channel, and like Dale Jr's channels for the interviews.! I used to root for you, and other underdogs back in the day.!! May all the Wallaces be BLESSED.!! THANKS MAN.!!!😉😉😉❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
NASCAR wants people talking about this for three days on social media. They dont want it a page 10 in the sports section the next day. NASCAR has turned into a complete joke.
@@bradshea4895 that's the smartest response I have seen all day. Very, very brilliant of you to pick it up and Nascar for being Trolls:)) I didn't realize it but they are taking advantage of all this. Good 👍 info
@@michaelisaza8676 To be fair, Nascar had to investigate other accusations which led to the spotter getting suspended as well. If they made an immediate decision after the race it would be difficult to add any new fines.
@@andya492you may be spot on. Whether intentional or not, we are all still discussing it on Wed. If they did in fact spend a great deal of time analyzing everything and being cautious in their response, good for them. I certainly can argue with your take 👍
Yep, thank you for breaking it down. You made it easy for this brother to understand. I think it took so long for the lawyers to dot the Is and cross the Ts. The 3 people should be a former driver (JR, Smoke Harvick), head of NASCAR and Head official. The reason I said former driver is you have to have their perspective in the call. Good stuff sir.
2 specific drivers that have done what Austin did and worse... off the top of my head... Joey and Denny. But they cry and throw tantrums like a 4 yr old. I'm with ya, Herm!
@@riprock31 Right. It used to be about speed and who had the guts to hold that pedal down longer before lifting. Now it is all about pushing and blocking and who takes the inside or outside, etc. Just not the same for sure.
This wasn’t a bump and run. It was full speed ahead from way back. Taking out Denny was deliberate. With spotter running his mouth.. decision was right but took too long. Joey should have suspended a race and fined. Nothing like anything Dale did.
So the Great Dale Sr. wouldn't have a single championship if pansy ass Nascar had this lame policy during his career! Nascar has zero integrity and yes Herman you were right!
You really should learn some history - from all I hear there were only TWO races where Dale Sr.did something as bad, out of how many wins with 7 championships?
Imagine if you ran a marathon and got to the end leading and the officials said we didn’t like that finish…Then lined you all up and said sprint another mile…GWC overtime finishes need to go.
If you're winning near the end of the marathon and someone deliberately trips you, overtakes you, and crosses the finish line first, do they get the win?
At this point, I honestly am not as angry as I thought I would be. Richard Childress Racing is going through turmoil right now. 2024 has been a bad season for them both on and off the track. I don't blame Austin Dillon for trying to give his team at least one bright spot in the very dark season. And with what I've read about Dilon potentially moving to management in the next 2 years and Kyle Busch leaving the cup series to go race in the truck series, I doesn't surprise me. I think we are about to see the end of RCR in its current form as we have known it since 1969. RCR may soon be jumping into the same boat as Haas will be in next year.
@garyjackson3531 No. Quit because RCR has run its course as a race team. There's no hope left for that team at this point. I think this is the end for everyone at RCR.
Weird ….today I was reading about Gallerraga losing his perfect game to a bad call by the first base ump and tonight you referenced it on your show …..love the input you give ….thoughtful and right on the money
@Kenny Wallace, you are one of the first to report this:)) I couldn't think of a better driver/analyst to have this "Press Conference" . Great work Kenny, who wants a big trophy that means absolutely nothing ? Please explain the benefit to Austin now that penalties have been assessed. I do not understand why they call him the winner, but they take away all the winning "royalties". I feel bad for Austin. I really do. But, they did penalize #9 a few years ago so we can't say "if this was so and so they wouldn't have done this". Anyway, I just think the penalties send mixed signals. NASCAR " you can have the win, but we're gonna take your money and position in the game". Weird
@@michaelisaza8676 well that’s bc all nascar cares about is their image in situations like this. If everyone sees he’s out of the playoffs like they all wanted, then they’re all happy.
@@kubeanie18 actually he "speculated possible outcomes" hours ago. JR got the dirt before it was spilled, Kenny reported it after the official announcement. Looks like you are keeping score.
@@jefferygordon24 they knew Monday what they were gonna do. Remember, this sport is funded by itself. The owner pay Nascar to run in Nascar. They just want a piece of the pie. One of the underreported issues and NASCAR is who the officials get their checks from. You're right though, they waited until today so they stayed prominent on social media and then drop the hammer on a team that's really not in a position to argue.
I like it, Kenny! Anyway u can get on that NASCAR decision making process? They need someone to keep them on the up and up. All season been I've complaining about this racer or that situation, and NASCAR rulings.
100% accurate Kenny, you're right. Dillion should be in the playoffs, he won. I've watched NASCAR for over 20 years and seems now the rules have changed into NASCARS' rules, whatever decision they make at anytime. "Win your in" has been the motto since it started, but NASCAR rules changed that, probably influenced by the 2 drivers and owners that were wrecked out and whoever else. Wrecking is racing. I have seen drivers take chances and pay for it, but some prevail and end up winning. I remember when Stenhouse wrecked just about everyone on the track to win and he won, it was a fun race to watch. He went to the playoffs. NASCAR shouldn't be making up the rules as they go. Dillion won, he should be in the playoffs, it's what's right.
I don’t like what NASCAR did to Austin Dillon and then they better start doing it taking points away from Joey Logano when he bumped somebody out of the way for the win the race because this is a bunch of bullshit
@@WalkingthroughthemountainsThe easy way out that nobody in the history of the sport had ever tried? You think he's the first easy-way-out kind of guy? I bet you're an easy-way-out kind of guy, if you know what I mean.
You can't have it both ways. Imagine an NFL playoff game where one team wins on a controversial call and, on Wednesday, they say the win counts, but the other team advances in the playoffs. You either win or you lose.
@@briandolson2941 If he broke rules, he should be disqualified from the race and the car behind him should be declared the winner of the race. As I said, they can't (or shouldn't) have it both ways. Players catch game winning TD passes with seconds to go and everyone celebrates, and then, after review, they say he was out of bounds and they lose.
I used to watch Race Hub every night to keep up with everything NASCAR. Now we can watch Kenny's videos each day and stay up to date. Thanks for great content and keeping us all informed. You da man, Herman!!!
Well thought out Herman. I agree... With the exception of "They can win", "They found something" They ran good, but every weeks a new week, after running mid all year, one race doesnt nessasarily mean they found something. we will however find out! Hermans not wrong much... lol. Love the channel!
You are right! Love your show Kenny, I do miss your enthusiasm on TV ( sorry I just dated myself). I love your point but how do they regulate the races that end normal? Some of these tracks are follow the leader, no need for parking and reviewing. I do see what you mean but again, it puts NASCAR in a spot to have to fine toon that and most likely get it wrong.
kenny lets drop you win in your in. lets go by points to get in. guys like Martin Truex consistent all your but has no wins. also lets do away with stage racing. breads more cautions in last stage
They don’t want Kenny to be comp director…..he’s a racer nascar doesn’t allow racers in the front office! You’re right on KW! Don’t forget Sr. Had Billy France running interference for him …..
Nascar dropped the ball on this one absolutely handled this wrong. The win should have stood austin had the best car all night long maybe a fine but he should have kept the win
Right or wrong, NASCAR needs to make the call before the cars go to the garage, like Herman said. How long could it possibly take? 5 minutes? 10 minutes?
@Joetato-gotta-go they would once the public got involved. Yes, I agree they don't care now. I wonder if they have thought how this will affect the negotiations they are having with the teams?
I agree with you, Herm. Also, and this is important, do you think you can get them to stop with the stupid front stretch interviews? Move the interviews back to victory lane where they are getting out of the car with the confetti flying. I hate the front stretch interviews.
The rule is clear: "race finishes must be unencumbered by actions detrimental to stock car racing". And yes, wrecking 2 cars to get a win is indeed "detrimental to stock car racing". End of story.
Your opinion. 9:06 I was impressed with AD. Finally after being everybody's punching bag for years runs excellent, no caution AD wins. Sad deal the restart infraction by Joe Lagono wasn't called.
This ruling is BS!!! Logano wrecked Truex to make it in to the playoffs on the last lap just a few years ago without any consequences whatsoever! He has wrecked cars several times just for the win! Hamlin has done the same thing several times as well! NASCAR created this scenario by implementing the GWC and the current points format! NASCAR actually wants things like this to happen! This must be appealed if NASCAR wants to be fair to all other drivers! If it is ok for Logano to do it then it should be ok for all other drivers to do it!
Logano didn't come from 3 car lengths back and drive into the person. Austin wasn't competitive on the restart. If he got to the 22's bumper fairly then have at it but he didn't. It's a shame as the 3 was fast. If you can't put a whole race together you shouldn't win.
@@charlieb8104 After doing more research I discovered that Ross Chastain wrecked both Alex Bowman and A.J. Allmendinger on the final lap also to secure a playoff spot! Distance doesn't matter! If it is fair to put the bumper to another car to get the win for one driver then it should be fair for all of them. I am not arguing that what Dillon done was right! My argument is that if NASCAR is going to halfass enforce the rules then they need to step it up and be consistent about it! NASCAR should have let it go and held a drivers meeting and tell them that the rules are going to be enforced going forward for ALL drivers!
@@ieronimo18 So you can define the line? NASCAR can't define it! They first said that Dillon toed the line and later said that he crossed it! Chastain wrecked Bowman and Allmendinger on the final lap in the recent past and there were no fines or penalties handed out! Where or what is the line? If one driver can put the bumper to another car on the final lap to get the win then all of them should be allowed to do so!
If you drove like that at your local go-kart track, you'd be banned for life. Not sure why people think it's okay to punt people off the track, but it's a terrible look, as a casual fan.
I like your suggestions Herm. However, in this race and the rules you suggest, who would have won? DQ for Austin? Love all your shows. Keep up the good work.
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It's expecting a lot for an organization that required 15 FBI super detectives to distinguish the difference between a garage door pull rope and an unacceptable symbol of hatred, to make any decision for which they don't receive payment and can't shift the responsibility to someone else. Nascar is pathetic.
It’s not even worth watching NASCAR anymore since they gone to these new cars and the rules I like the old ways when you all used to race
Yeah agreed 💯
Watching these clowns tear up cars before /after lap 2-3 and so on ...
That's not professional, it's a frenzy for idiots that have 0 patience!
Exactly
Haven't watched a race in years, don't care to. Mostly rich kids with no real talent
This might be the last straw for me. Over the years how many times have we seen someone punt a guy for a win? Tonnnns
Agreed. NASCAR is turning into WWE. I miss the 70's and 80's.
NASCAR has turned into a joke. I miss the 80's and 90's days
People said back then nascar is a joke i miss the 60's and 70's
If it wasn’t for the 41 and 47, the 3 would have won and none of this happens. The overtime is killing the sport
Real question did #47 do it in purpose to alter the outcome of the race.
@SniperTrader7733 Preece turned down on him. End of race drivers get naturally more aggressive. Can't say, "If this didn't happen,..." because it did happen and it's part of racing.
If Backmarkers consistently "Stunk Up " either Big Bill or Bill, Jr's shows they would have got a talking to they wouldn't soon forget!!!!! Guys like Preece and Stenhouse set the stage and NASCAR loved it, until Logano (crash to win) and Hamlin (cry baby to basher and back) and a lot of the very fans who come only to see "wrecks" weren't satisfied. NASCAR is imploding.
Herman, making the decision right after the race while still on TV would be great for the ratings
Yes. Live officiating!
@@Cconkyy every other sport has on the spot live officiating, just saying
@wicked.mainah5994 I was taking about this the other day.. I think it's a needed change
Problem is Dillion actually didn't break any rules..
We know this because A) there no rule against bumping Joey outta the way
2) if the decision was based off the Hamlin contact, they've already set the precedent of a one race suspension..
They just don't want a driver setting in 32nd place ..in the playoffs.
But thier the ones that made the win your in .. stipulation.
Having the decision on race day would take away NASCAR control of the playoffs..
They would not be able to implement the rule they applied at a later date, if they made race day decisions..
BOOM 💥 💥 💥 WE HAVE A WINNER ❤❤❤
Go back to the way it was, no playoffs
The playoffs aren't the problem.
agreed no playoffs, raced for 66 years without mandatory yellows go back to the original way
No people griped when Kenesth won the title without a win.
Why didn't Stenchhouse get a penalty for dumping Preese then . He caused the caution that cost this hell
No thanks, we knew the champion with 10 races to go
No doubt about it Kenny the call should have been made Sunday after race. Right after every race it says Unofficial Results. With all the analytics they have today it can be done…
This is exactly why the points system never should of been changed but nascar wanted more excitement Kenny and the guy who usually wins at the end of the year doesn't deserve the championship on this ridiculous points and reset system
The King won 7 championships on 5 different point systems
Bottom line all this crap is the falt of the fans that want to see races end on green. This started green white checkered. We can't even count how many cars have been wrecked and how many controversies have come from that decision The 300 mile race should be 300 miles no more no less green or caution
what does "should of" mean?
I agree @@thomaseagens7481
Kenny, I agree with you 100%. Also, in a "wet tire" race, NASCAR should not be telling the Driver/Teams which tire to run, and when to switch, on a drying track.
If it takes 3 days that means you're letting other people influence what is happening and if you don't think sponsorships dont control the final verdict then you just are blind
You make a good point.
Your exactly right you can bet they met with Gibbs and Penske before they made a decision
Yep!
Do the right thing, Johnny Morris. Get Bass Pro off the #3, just like M&M did with Kyle Busch. You're,embarrassing yourself and Bass Pro.
@@dave-dg7qf They had to wait till Denny told them what he wanted.
NASCAR should make you "Director Of Competition"
WoW I AGREE...
I agree too
I was thinking the same thing toward the end of the video. It probably will happen down the road in some form or fashion.
He would be a great "Third person on the panel" he was talking about
I Wish NASCAR would hire Dale Jr. For this job. Elton Sawyer is a joke of jokes. Elton go eat some Gwaltney Hot Dogs
Sure would like to know how a nobody never was like Elton sawyer was handed the job. Probably some behind the scenes nepotism as usual. That’s like hiring someone who plays with model rockets to oversee NASA
NASCAR makes up the rules as they go. What a joke. “Win and your in!”….unless NASCAR doesn’t like the result.
@@Walkingthroughthemountains There was no integrity behind the wheel of the 3 car.
@@douglasschmitt6645 Per the NASCAR rules there was no requirement for a fair, or bumper to bumper free, or High Integrity win. The WIN And Your IN strategy was designed to create exactly this situation!! Desperate drivers making desperate moves at the last moment for that win!!
Yeah, they didn't plan for a no talent rich kid plowing his way to a win.
This is so wrong in so many ways! It’s going to be fun to watch Denny or joes lose the points for a win after they punt some for the win . But that will never happen! This is bull shit !!!!
You bet .... tired of watching it tired of hearing about it... That last lap was the only good part of that whole damn race
I agree with your take. As for Austin, I think it's "don't hate the player, hate the game" for him. At the same time, NASCAR should rule in minutes, not days, and go ahead and remove the win and everything. Don't just go halfway.
I love what Mark Martin said when Austin wrecked them out "Good Grief" LOL
Let's just make up the rules as we go along. I think every bump and run in the last 5 years should now be reviewed.
Local tracks make the call as it happens no waiting. Don't have tape to watch or anything. Make the call as it happens. Herman you the man.
Kenny is the best NASCAR NEEDS TO LISTEN TO YOU
I agree with you Kenny. Who the hell is the governing body behind nascars judgements. If EVERY driver has to be present for EVERY race to qualify to compete for the cup, then NASCAR heads should be present for EVERY race to alleviate any issues arising at that race that night!
Nascrap changes the rules every week. Tony Stewart was smart to get out...
Walter Conkrite…you’re killing me, Herm!
😂😂😂
@@toddgraham1776 "Nascars a bunch of pansy asses"😄
Back in the day, Mike Helton would never let this crap go on like this. He would drop the hammer quick and move on.
Baloney. He's as bad as any of them.
Neither would Dale Sr, Dale would not have agreed with the chase format, would have said this is to help those candy-a** drivers. When he died everything Nascar did afterwards has gone south, the diehard fans have left and few remained, i am a diehard fan, but Nascar decision making and rule changes mid season have gotten me half way out the door.
I wanna see if nascar holds thw same standard to drivers from hms Penske racing or JGR if they do no issues but if they turn a blind eye then its all bs
They suspended Chase a few years ago, they suspended Bubba (a JGR extension) So, I think they already have. The difference is the other suspensions didn't take driver's out of the playoffs. Otherwise, the precedent was already set.
Could they put speedometer in there cars , the speeding penalties are bs on pit road .
Maybe get stenhouse penalized for wrecking all the time . If it wasn’t for bad driving by wreckhouse. 3 would have won!
@@LisaDouglasinhooterville You do know drivers set their speed off RPM, yes? Cup drivers have multiple visual aids to keep them from speeding, but everyone pushes the limits.
@@LisaDouglasinhootervilleYou do know drivers set their speed off RPM, yes? Cup drivers have multiple visual aids to keep them from speeding, but everyone pushes the limits.
You absolutely cannot allow a driver to gain 20 positions in the standings by wrecking 2 cars to "get in"
You must not follow short track or dirt car racing…
Great idea to make the call right then. The Kentucky Derby officials take a few moments after every race before they announce the "official" results. Same principle.
You are right about NASCAR needing to make a determination on the spot, not three days later.
Bet yer ass that if Bubba did that, they would do nothing....
Bubba did do it and NASCAR certainly did something!
Except bubba did, and NASCAR absolutely did something about it
Bubba is only one black driver in nascar and it bothers you.
@@garyjackson3531They wouldn't taken the playoff birth from bubba.. this just NASCAR protecting 23 XI the playoffs system.
Not really about bubba but he's part of 23XI..
How you keep the win and not be eligible for the playoffs..
Hope Dillion can appeal this..
Past situations called for a one race suspension..
His boss getting wrecked and crying to NASCAR for 3 days is why they did it that way. They got protect that money they know Richard ain't going no where but Denny seems like the I'll take my ball and go home type if they don't act on his hissie fits.@@deliriouswhome1
NASCAR has destroyed itself. I'm done
Yes me too... Done with it... I even saw the 1979 Daytona 500... I'm 65 years old been a lifelong fan not anymore sick of it..... That finish was the only thing exciting about the whole damn race
Bye felisha
Been watching since '82. Not going to watch anymore of their joke races. I'm not renewing my tickets to Darlington either. Man, I'm glad football will be here soon. NATZYCAR can't die fast enough as far as I'm concerned.
NFL football is the most fixed sport in America. Watch KC and 4 OL tackling and holding the defense with nothing called over and over.
@@mattsams9325 Go to your county fair and watch the demolition derby then. this isn't racing.
At almost 70 yrs old, I will simply say this. 1 - I am done watching NASCAR. 2 - Elton Sawyer makes up a new rule after the fact? I AM DONE.
This is the reason NASCAR is a sinking ship i don't see it being around in 10 years
NASCAR could end up like K-Mart
Sadly I agree
I want to thank NASCAR for making it easy to stop caring about the sport. Thank God football is right around the corner
The woke NFL and them fixing games for KC.
Your right, NFL is gone woke. Screw the NFL
Even worse... ain't no way
SEC football
The official Richmond race was such a snore fest that it took 3 days for NASCAR to wake back up?
NASCAR needs to clean house on their top management it's childish, incompetent and inconsistent decision are ruining the sport.
And that's just Brian France !
@@fposmithBrian France is gone. Jim France took over after Brian's arrest and forced resignation
Kenny you crack me up, if I recall you were pointing a lot of the blame on spotter saying suspension what happen to him if any? Also what happened to Joey? I got a good way for NASCAR to kill five minutes of time why they think about the ruling! Have you explain it and telling everyone it was your idea!😂😂😂 great video keep it up 👍🏻
Once again NASCAR caves to the woke crowd. If anything they should penalize the 47 for bringing out the caution, Austin was going to win the race, Joey held back and rolled the start, he should have been penalized for that.
Ricky Spin Gate ll. Altered. The R.C.R.finish!
I love how it was ok that bubba Wallace and Chase Elliott were still eligible for the playoffs. Rule changes need to be made in the off season
Chase is already in he has a win 🏁🇺🇸
Glad someone is paying attention! right on
They change the rules every week.
Well they didn't score the win as the outcome compared to Dillon
Dillon is still eligible for the playoffs. This win did not qualify him for the playoffs.
The 22 put more people in danger slap on the hand. Elton Sawyer most go is the most inconsistent race director in Nascar history
In his day Elton Sawyer couldn't keep up with the pace car.
Nascar shouldnt let people on pit road before all the cars are in period! Joey was wrong but thats on both not just joey! Thats ignorant!
The 22 only did a burnout no one was in danger at all
Define "danger" outside of Hamlin's injury.
and show us examples where especially Logano (or whoever) has come in throttle into the back of someone from 4 or 5 car lengths and smashed them out the way into this danger you talk. .
@@Charlesdayis r u kidding me
I think like you Herm 😂 NASCAR needs to make their decision immediately. I don’t like seeing something later in the week. Weekly series( dirt, asphalt) makes their call during the race. Like it or not that is what we need back!! And don’t let drivers dictate nascar. NASCAR dictate NASCAR. Drivers dictate drivers. Thank you sir for your point of view!! Love it
I hope RCR goes to the NHRA. NASCAR ruined it w this playoff BS! It not stick & ball folks it’s racing.
Nascar took 3 days to make a right or wrong decision and Austin only had a couple of seconds. How is that fair. They took their time when Chastain ran the wall and didn't keep him out of the championship run.
Kenny Wallace for Nascar CEO !
I thought Joey Lagano was not in correct position during the restart as they approached the start line. I don't know why they didn't wave off the restart and force another restart. I don't get this lapse in officiating in-the-moment of the restart. The bump later wouldn't count anyway. BTW: didn't Joey Lagano bump someone to win in the last few years? I get it: this stage and playoff officiating is just getting to be too much for NASCAR incorporated to keep up with.
Yeah I thought Logano edged forward a bit early too. But look at Hamlin a few races Back. That was even worse and NASCAR did nothing then too. Truex Jr was pissed.
Kenny Wallace. God bless you for the all around look at it. You can see it from all directions. Thank you for your time.
Racing hasn't been worth watching since you, and Rusty, + the rest of the greats aged out, retired, left racing, etc.!! The old cars, rules, regulations, rubbing, and bump drafting.! The biggest thing is the driver's.!! Back in the day, you had to work yourself to death to make it to the Big League, like your brother did, and all the other old greats.!! I don't watch it anymore, but I like your channel, and like Dale Jr's channels for the interviews.! I used to root for you, and other underdogs back in the day.!! May all the Wallaces be BLESSED.!! THANKS MAN.!!!😉😉😉❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I'll go support my local dirt track from now, to hell with liberal nascar
Whats being liberal hav to do with Nascar.
If tearing shit up and racing dirty sports your fancy, yes go support your local dirt track.
Kenny was right. He knows what he is talking about. If Nascar did not do something the next few races would of been a free for all demo derby. 😎👍
Kenny was wrong geez what are you people smoking Kenny said they had waited too late to penalty.
It still will be a free for all wreckem for the win!
Kenny always wins.🏆
Still might be
Always was
NASCAR wants people talking about this for three days on social media. They dont want it a page 10 in the sports section the next day. NASCAR has turned into a complete joke.
Roller Derby
@@bradshea4895 that's the smartest response I have seen all day. Very, very brilliant of you to pick it up and Nascar for being Trolls:)) I didn't realize it but they are taking advantage of all this. Good 👍 info
If this is the case then nascar better not once play the Richmond finish for promotion, but we all know that will happen.
@@michaelisaza8676 To be fair, Nascar had to investigate other accusations which led to the spotter getting suspended as well. If they made an immediate decision after the race it would be difficult to add any new fines.
@@andya492you may be spot on. Whether intentional or not, we are all still discussing it on Wed. If they did in fact spend a great deal of time analyzing everything and being cautious in their response, good for them. I certainly can argue with your take 👍
Herman is right more than he is wrong. Love his take on this. 😀🇺🇸
Yep, thank you for breaking it down. You made it easy for this brother to understand. I think it took so long for the lawyers to dot the Is and cross the Ts. The 3 people should be a former driver (JR, Smoke Harvick), head of NASCAR and Head official. The reason I said former driver is you have to have their perspective in the call. Good stuff sir.
The sad things is if the 47 wouldnt have wrecked we wouldn't even be here
@gbrjoker true. But Austin also blew the restart
Ricky Wreckhouse 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes Sir!!!
But he did... so here we are 😩
How many times has Dillon been a part of that yellow at the end that shouldn’t happen lol
Other drivers have done this many times and Nascar does nothing. Nascar has gone woke its a shame!!! Grow a pair Nascar!!!
Nascar is woke for sure
2 specific drivers that have done what Austin did and worse... off the top of my head... Joey and Denny. But they cry and throw tantrums like a 4 yr old. I'm with ya, Herm!
Agreed. It's so far removed from its glory days. RIP NASCAR.
@@riprock31 Right. It used to be about speed and who had the guts to hold that pedal down longer before lifting. Now it is all about pushing and blocking and who takes the inside or outside, etc. Just not the same for sure.
This wasn’t a bump and run. It was full speed ahead from way back. Taking out Denny was deliberate. With spotter running his mouth.. decision was right but took too long. Joey should have suspended a race and fined.
Nothing like anything Dale did.
So the Great Dale Sr. wouldn't have a single championship if pansy ass Nascar had this lame policy during his career! Nascar has zero integrity and yes Herman you were right!
You really should learn some history - from all I hear there were only TWO races where Dale Sr.did something as bad, out of how many wins with 7 championships?
Knocking somebody out of the race is .....pathetic , unethical down right dirty PERIOD
@@toddbob55 exactly
@@gold98gtp you heard wrong! I've watched Dale knock out several more than that!!!
Good evening Kenny
Imagine if you ran a marathon and got to the end leading and the officials said we didn’t like that finish…Then lined you all up and said sprint another mile…GWC overtime finishes need to go.
Good point. I agree.
If you're winning near the end of the marathon and someone deliberately trips you, overtakes you, and crosses the finish line first, do they get the win?
@@StandingFirmAlways That happened in overtime.
Not sure about marathon rules.
@@oskydave DQ
Nascar should be consistent because LOTs of drivers have punted someone out of the way, wreaking the lead car, in order to win.
I commented above. "Bulldoze" your way in? NO. Spin or wreck them in a kinder gentler way to get in? YES.🤦♂
Kenny was right AGAIN
No Kenny was wrong he said this wouldn’t happen
ya he kept saying that, but all he talked about was that they didn't make the call right away. So what was he right about?
Nothing.
I totally agree with you Herman. They have photo finishes so why can't they do instant replays
100% right Mr Wallace they should have done this right after the race!
Agree 💯!! If the teams are allowed to contest the ruling then the call needs to be made asap! Please and thank you.
I totally agree with your take! Make the decision on site, NOT 3 days later!
I Totally Agree 👍👍👍👍
I agree about that one do it on sunday or night or Saturday when you race, not three days later!
That's a bummer that is wrong wrong wrong
At this point, I honestly am not as angry as I thought I would be. Richard Childress Racing is going through turmoil right now. 2024 has been a bad season for them both on and off the track. I don't blame Austin Dillon for trying to give his team at least one bright spot in the very dark season. And with what I've read about Dilon potentially moving to management in the next 2 years and Kyle Busch leaving the cup series to go race in the truck series, I doesn't surprise me. I think we are about to see the end of RCR in its current form as we have known it since 1969. RCR may soon be jumping into the same boat as Haas will be in next year.
If I was Richard Childress this is it. I would do just like Tony Stewart did. But i would have a few words with NASCAR. Done deal.
@@MrRandyfrantz Quit because your driver ran afoul of the rules? Really?
@garyjackson3531 No. Quit because RCR has run its course as a race team. There's no hope left for that team at this point. I think this is the end for everyone at RCR.
Weird ….today I was reading about Gallerraga losing his perfect game to a bad call by the first base ump and tonight you referenced it on your show …..love the input you give ….thoughtful and right on the money
You are very right. Make it NOW. 😊
Love how Joey Logano gets mad even though he pulls that move all the time
Nvr one did he do that
Lol Joey has never done anything like this.. no one has
Joey intentionally wrecks 2 different drivers in the last corner all the time?? What nascar are you watching??
@kylenorris7537 lol yeah you know.. that move no has ever done before.. gets pulled all the time 🤣
@@Cconkyy ok can you show me a single example ?I will be waiting
Anyone could have made the call live-time. Three days are not necessary.
@Kenny Wallace, you are one of the first to report this:)) I couldn't think of a better driver/analyst to have this "Press Conference" . Great work Kenny, who wants a big trophy that means absolutely nothing ? Please explain the benefit to Austin now that penalties have been assessed. I do not understand why they call him the winner, but they take away all the winning "royalties". I feel bad for Austin. I really do. But, they did penalize #9 a few years ago so we can't say "if this was so and so they wouldn't have done this". Anyway, I just think the penalties send mixed signals. NASCAR " you can have the win, but we're gonna take your money and position in the game". Weird
@@michaelisaza8676 well that’s bc all nascar cares about is their image in situations like this. If everyone sees he’s out of the playoffs like they all wanted, then they’re all happy.
Dale jr reported it hours ago.
@@kubeanie18 actually he "speculated possible outcomes" hours ago. JR got the dirt before it was spilled, Kenny reported it after the official announcement. Looks like you are keeping score.
@@jefferygordon24 they knew Monday what they were gonna do. Remember, this sport is funded by itself. The owner pay Nascar to run in Nascar. They just want a piece of the pie. One of the underreported issues and NASCAR is who the officials get their checks from. You're right though, they waited until today so they stayed prominent on social media and then drop the hammer on a team that's really not in a position to argue.
I like it, Kenny! Anyway u can get on that NASCAR decision making process? They need someone to keep them on the up and up. All season been I've complaining about this racer or that situation, and NASCAR rulings.
You’re A Genius!!!!! Excellent job of explaining what NASCAR did, why they did it, and the way they should do it in the future!!!!!
100% accurate Kenny, you're right. Dillion should be in the playoffs, he won. I've watched NASCAR for over 20 years and seems now the rules have changed into NASCARS' rules, whatever decision they make at anytime. "Win your in" has been the motto since it started, but NASCAR rules changed that, probably influenced by the 2 drivers and owners that were wrecked out and whoever else. Wrecking is racing. I have seen drivers take chances and pay for it, but some prevail and end up winning. I remember when Stenhouse wrecked just about everyone on the track to win and he won, it was a fun race to watch. He went to the playoffs. NASCAR shouldn't be making up the rules as they go. Dillion won, he should be in the playoffs, it's what's right.
I don’t like what NASCAR did to Austin Dillon and then they better start doing it taking points away from Joey Logano when he bumped somebody out of the way for the win the race because this is a bunch of bullshit
I love Lagano. I'm from CT after all but I still thumbed up your comment.Well stated.
2017 Richmond joey won the race and NASCAR gave him the same penalty for not passing tech
Dillion was blantant not bump and run your eyes need looked at!
Ross came in like a bulldozer and made it to another round.
Hey Trollbott.......... Ross DIDN'T wreck anyone
Ross didn't hit a single other driver AND NASCAR outlawed that move in the future.
@@Walkingthroughthemountainslol, coming from someone that has never raced.
Still, that was glorious and didn’t take anyone out in the process.
@@WalkingthroughthemountainsThe easy way out that nobody in the history of the sport had ever tried? You think he's the first easy-way-out kind of guy? I bet you're an easy-way-out kind of guy, if you know what I mean.
An awesome video Kenny. Hopefully somebody will watch it and at the minimum they’ll at least think about it
Hey Herman! Right down the street from Lake Hill Speedway in Valley Park MO...of course you not wrong!! Well-said indeed.
You can't have it both ways. Imagine an NFL playoff game where one team wins on a controversial call and, on Wednesday, they say the win counts, but the other team advances in the playoffs. You either win or you lose.
Saints fans would be elated with that type of policy
Imagine an NFL team that didn't make the playoffs, still gets to play and knock out a team that did. Insane!
@@briandolson2941 If he broke rules, he should be disqualified from the race and the car behind him should be declared the winner of the race. As I said, they can't (or shouldn't) have it both ways. Players catch game winning TD passes with seconds to go and everyone celebrates, and then, after review, they say he was out of bounds and they lose.
@@briandolson2941 One more reason why the nascar “playoffs” are faulty
Kenny Wallace for President of Nascar
I used to watch Race Hub every night to keep up with everything NASCAR. Now we can watch Kenny's videos each day and stay up to date. Thanks for great content and keeping us all informed. You da man, Herman!!!
Well thought out Herman. I agree... With the exception of "They can win", "They found something" They ran good, but every weeks a new week, after running mid all year, one race doesnt nessasarily mean they found something. we will however find out! Hermans not wrong much... lol. Love the channel!
You are right! Love your show Kenny, I do miss your enthusiasm on TV ( sorry I just dated myself). I love your point but how do they regulate the races that end normal? Some of these tracks are follow the leader, no need for parking and reviewing. I do see what you mean but again, it puts NASCAR in a spot to have to fine toon that and most likely get it wrong.
kenny lets drop you win in your in. lets go by points to get in. guys like Martin Truex consistent all your but has no wins. also lets do away with stage racing. breads more cautions in last stage
Agree. Thanks
They don’t want Kenny to be comp director…..he’s a racer nascar doesn’t allow racers in the front office! You’re right on KW! Don’t forget Sr. Had Billy France running interference for him …..
Evidence?
Nascar let him win because they were trending #1, fans loved it, and nascar says ehhhhh we don’t like good ratings
100% I agree with everything Kenny said. Makes so much sense to have Sr. or Exc Officials that have to make the call on the spot.
I love stories like this coming out of Nascar because Kenny is getting his views up and Kenny deserves them. Kenny Wallace, Always Keppin It Real!
Nascar dropped the ball on this one absolutely handled this wrong. The win should have stood austin had the best car all night long maybe a fine but he should have kept the win
He did keep the win.
Right or wrong, NASCAR needs to make the call before the cars go to the garage, like Herman said. How long could it possibly take? 5 minutes? 10 minutes?
no way in hell would nascar ever do this to dale. what a joke they are.
😂😂😂😂😂
Awesome video keep up the good work job NASCAR yes they should do that
You are an absolute gem Kenny. Love the channel!
Richard Childress should park his cars for the season. That would toast Nascar decision makers.
Don’t think NASCAR cares if they park or not
@Joetato-gotta-go they would once the public got involved. Yes, I agree they don't care now. I wonder if they have thought how this will affect the negotiations they are having with the teams?
🔥🔥NASCAR NEEDS TO BE OWNED AND RUN BY ALL THE RETIRED DRIVERS🔥🔥
That ring light just makes you look Evil
Makes me want to know what a "ring light" is.
I agree with you, Herm. Also, and this is important, do you think you can get them to stop with the stupid front stretch interviews? Move the interviews back to victory lane where they are getting out of the car with the confetti flying. I hate the front stretch interviews.
Thank you for Flo and dirtvision
The rule is clear: "race finishes must be unencumbered by actions detrimental to stock car racing". And yes, wrecking 2 cars to get a win is indeed "detrimental to stock car racing". End of story.
Hamlin wrecked himself. He said himself that he came up not expecting Dillon to be there
Your opinion. 9:06 I was impressed with AD. Finally after being everybody's punching bag for years runs excellent, no caution AD wins. Sad deal the restart infraction by Joe Lagono wasn't called.
This ruling is BS!!! Logano wrecked Truex to make it in to the playoffs on the last lap just a few years ago without any consequences whatsoever! He has wrecked cars several times just for the win! Hamlin has done the same thing several times as well! NASCAR created this scenario by implementing the GWC and the current points format! NASCAR actually wants things like this to happen! This must be appealed if NASCAR wants to be fair to all other drivers! If it is ok for Logano to do it then it should be ok for all other drivers to do it!
You're trying to equate apples and oranges. Dillon obviously crossed the line.
Logano didn't come from
3 car lengths back and drive into the person. Austin wasn't competitive on the restart. If he got to the 22's bumper fairly then have at it but he didn't. It's a shame as the 3 was fast. If you can't put a whole race together you shouldn't win.
@@charlieb8104 After doing more research I discovered that Ross Chastain wrecked both Alex Bowman and A.J. Allmendinger on the final lap also to secure a playoff spot! Distance doesn't matter! If it is fair to put the bumper to another car to get the win for one driver then it should be fair for all of them. I am not arguing that what Dillon done was right! My argument is that if NASCAR is going to halfass enforce the rules then they need to step it up and be consistent about it! NASCAR should have let it go and held a drivers meeting and tell them that the rules are going to be enforced going forward for ALL drivers!
It was less about him dumping Logano. Everyone is stuck on that. It was the entirety of his actions. If he doesn’t dump Denny it’s not an issue.
@@ieronimo18 So you can define the line? NASCAR can't define it! They first said that Dillon toed the line and later said that he crossed it! Chastain wrecked Bowman and Allmendinger on the final lap in the recent past and there were no fines or penalties handed out! Where or what is the line? If one driver can put the bumper to another car on the final lap to get the win then all of them should be allowed to do so!
If you drove like that at your local go-kart track, you'd be banned for life. Not sure why people think it's okay to punt people off the track, but it's a terrible look, as a casual fan.
I like your suggestions Herm. However, in this race and the rules you suggest, who would have won? DQ for Austin? Love all your shows. Keep up the good work.
Herman? Isn’t rubbing, racing? That look like a classic dale sr move
that's bullshit Kenny