When he said "I'm a pretty casual fps player" and has actually the best aim out of all the techtubers and reviewers out there lmao Ali is just to humble
@@TWJYILY haus is really only decent in csgo, his aim seems sub par on other game’s clips. Optimum aim looks good on Valo, Apex and OW. I also think haus has really questionable opinions on mice and mousepads.
@Gappy Haus is the better tac fps player while I’d say for apex, ow optimum beats him out. Haus always says in game performance is the most important so that’s why his opinions may seem different from others, which I respect
Your videos are always so well produced, it's amazing. Even as an absolute casual gamer they're always worth watching. Keep up the good work, your videos are an enrichment to the gaming scene.
Superbly agree on the MZ1 Wireless - The coating isn't pog, the weight is nuts for what it is (after my weight reduction mod I got it down to 40g and it's actually insane), lastly is the RGB...yeah it looks super sick, but holy shit does it eat into the battery life. Great video mate, love to see your personal 5!
i dont get it.. used cabled MZ1 for over 1 year..coating is good... i modded mine though.. removed the back panel and all rgb so mine is sub 50g as well.. but yeah no problem with coating..must be different humidity or grip styles..
@@dimwillow7113 bro do you have any video reference for this mod? I also just bought the MZ1 Zys rail wired and I’m liking it better than my viper ultimate
I think one thing that should be mentioned about the carbon fibre Zaunkoenig M2K is that it has no side buttons whatsoever. Which I would personally find quite irritating as I often use them both in games and for just general internet browsing.
Finalmouse would be so good if they actually did something to avoid the crazy scalping and if they actually made their mice available to people. All they do is hype up those weird "limited launches" and then have absolutely NO bots protection or anti scalping measures whatsoever, and you'll often see people who bought like twenty different models in one go just to sell them on ebay the day after for three times the price. It would literally be enough if they just limited it to "one/two items per customer". No amount of quality justifies this kind of behaviour.
It would be quite a plot twist if they themselves sold these mice on ebay instead of the shop and this whole shop was just a smoke screen. Because why not get 3 times the money?
since i got the logitech superlight, it is very obvious that its by far my favorite mouse. ive had many razer options, the glorious model o and more, and nothing has come close to the logitech hand feel
Surprised you didn't include the pwnage ultra custom symm 2(long name, I know) I bought it based on your recommendation and it's an excellent mouse for gaming and even production, as well as excellent value and build quality. Everyone should check it out I think.
I also had the Pwnage Symm 2, honestly couldn't compare it to any of the 5 mice that was mentioned. I honestly think Symm 2 is overrated it feels very heavy, but I like the fact you can buy different shells.
Your hype for zeokeonigseg or whatever its spelled made me gonna try the g wolves hsk pro 4k... similar shape..side buttons, 29 grams, wireless, 4k pollingrate.. should be cool
Great video man!! Aussie aussie oi oi i just got this from Lee's stream xd Jokes aside Can we get top 5 or 10 budget mouse wired or wireless for 2022 or 2023 which is around the corner?
I can just recommend the prime wireless mini. (not working for them or getting paid) I tried so many mice before (pulsar xlite v2, pulsar X2, Xtrfy MZ1, GPX superlight, finalmouse ul 2, viper pro 2 and many many more) but the prime wireless mini is the most comfortable and most reliable gaming mouse i ever had.
Viper is one of the most mediocre shapes in the market for top tier mice. So many mice with better shapes. Anyone who loves the Viper shape likely just hasn't tried other mice.
I have the FM tenz but I've had an issue with it basically ever since I bought it, my left click sometimes doesn''t register even though I click... it's so often too that I just need a new mouse I guess.
I really hope zaunkoenig makes one with side buttons eventually! Also gwolves are about to release the HSK pro with 4k and better placement of the side buttons. The side buttons on the HSK+ were way too far forward for me to enjoy. Love your vids as always! 🙌
I prefer coating on the Razer Viper V2 Pro over Superlight over longer sessions. I got sweaty hands and Superlight feels too sticky. Based on the tech used for sensors and switches resistant to double clicking I would recommend everyone to try Viper V2 Pro and DA3 Pro before anything else. If you go for the shape first I prefer UL2 over anything else till my fingers start to hurt from honeycomb sides (Infinity skins dont last forever).
My Deathadder Chroma gets sweaty as well. I don't know if you've had any experience with the older Deathadders, but if you have, do you know if the Viper V2 Pro's coating is an improvement?
Hey, great video as always. Wanted to lyk that g-wolves is coming out with an even newer version of the HSK, the HSK pro, which is like 28 grams wireless or something and also will support 4k - i feel like that could interest you more than the HSK+
I really apricate this video but i have 2 questions: do you have a list for mice that are better for standard grip not fingertip how did u get those overwatch color settings. that is the most vibrant overwatch i have seen.
@@robotsix6268 The latency is strong, but the grips are different from what people like. Viper has no real backhump, so its flat and deathadder v3 is ergo, which is also heavily preference. Any other doesn’t make the cut and so I thinks it is understandable.
What do you think about DeathAdder V3 Pro Wireless, i want to get superlight but im not sure it will fit me properly since i have Zowie EC3C and the shape is similar of DeathAdder V3 Pro Wireless. Should I buy superlight or DeathAdder V3 Pro Wireless?
Hath we not gone too far... We have 29g mice now? What's next! 20g? 10? No, no 0g? Will we invent weightless technology, FOR MICE. No I say we will return to old mice, great mice 100g mice.
Also check out the G-Wolves HSK Pro with PMW-3395! It comes in two varieties: Ace which is 1000 Hz and the 4K which is 4000 Hz. I currently have the Plus and love it, though think I'll prefer the button positioning on the Pro more.
You mentioned you ordered the HSK+ but I suggest preordering the new HSK 4k or HSK Pro. They made the shape smaller than the HSK+ and is more similar to the M2K in size. Wireless, 4k polling rate, and 25-29g. Might be an upgrade from the M2K since the specs on paper are so good.
Was super hoping he'd look at the HSK 4K/Ace. Side buttons look like their in the right place now, and they cut the weight down so much. Been tempted to just dive in myself but I'll wait for reviews.
i just got my G-wolves HSK pro plus wireless today and its really good just like nothing else for finger tip grip. I highly recommend for anyone who wants the M2K without spending an obseen amount of money for 29g of product
Very curious about the soon to be released HSK pro Ace from G-wolves, it's getting into M2K weight territory at about half the price. Shame about the micro-usb, though.
Viper v3 is technically better mouse then pulsar or xtrfy...u have viper too. Any reasons u picked those two over viper? Clearly not price thing since the video is about your top 5 preference. Would love to know the take!
something i don't understand is the prixe of the pulsar X2, at least for me on amazon it's 95€, when the G Pro X Superlight is around 120€, the reason i say i don't understand that is because why the hell would you pick the Pulsar X2 if the price difference is so low ? if it was idk 75€ why not but 95 vs 120 ? i'm taking the superlight everyday
you forgot to mention 2 things that sets the m2k apart from all others. the 01F japanese omrons (best lightest switch) and higher than 1k polling rate (4k i think? maybe 8k?) more mice need lighter switches! they’re all getting the dumb heavy 8.0’s!
When he said "I'm a pretty casual fps player" and has actually the best aim out of all the techtubers and reviewers out there lmao Ali is just to humble
Think Haus is better but that's cause he's an ex pro lol.
@@TWJYILY haus is really only decent in csgo, his aim seems sub par on other game’s clips. Optimum aim looks good on Valo, Apex and OW. I also think haus has really questionable opinions on mice and mousepads.
@Gappy Haus is the better tac fps player while I’d say for apex, ow optimum beats him out. Haus always says in game performance is the most important so that’s why his opinions may seem different from others, which I respect
Most techtubers don't actually play the game just get the game for views...
Having good aim/game sense doesn't mean he's competitive.
Your videos are always so well produced, it's amazing. Even as an absolute casual gamer they're always worth watching. Keep up the good work, your videos are an enrichment to the gaming scene.
Superbly agree on the MZ1 Wireless - The coating isn't pog, the weight is nuts for what it is (after my weight reduction mod I got it down to 40g and it's actually insane), lastly is the RGB...yeah it looks super sick, but holy shit does it eat into the battery life.
Great video mate, love to see your personal 5!
Do you experience double click issue? I've been and it's so annoying
In the weight reduction u did, u keep the side buttons and the scrollwheel?? And if u do can yoy tell me how u did it
(sorry for my bad english man)
i dont get it.. used cabled MZ1 for over 1 year..coating is good... i modded mine though.. removed the back panel and all rgb so mine is sub 50g as well.. but yeah no problem with coating..must be different humidity or grip styles..
@@dimwillow7113 bro do you have any video reference for this mod? I also just bought the MZ1 Zys rail wired and I’m liking it better than my viper ultimate
@@kozuta8858 Shape is great but VU has better sensor lower latency
I can feel the difference. VU is more snappier.
I think one thing that should be mentioned about the carbon fibre Zaunkoenig M2K is that it has no side buttons whatsoever. Which I would personally find quite irritating as I often use them both in games and for just general internet browsing.
Still waiting for the "razer deathadder v3 pro" review. Would be nice if you did one.
Absolutely love my deathadder v3 pro. it feels so much better than the superlight
Finalmouse would be so good if they actually did something to avoid the crazy scalping and if they actually made their mice available to people. All they do is hype up those weird "limited launches" and then have absolutely NO bots protection or anti scalping measures whatsoever, and you'll often see people who bought like twenty different models in one go just to sell them on ebay the day after for three times the price. It would literally be enough if they just limited it to "one/two items per customer". No amount of quality justifies this kind of behaviour.
It would be quite a plot twist if they themselves sold these mice on ebay instead of the shop and this whole shop was just a smoke screen. Because why not get 3 times the money?
@@tehehe5929 Given how bad their track record is, I wouldn't be surprised.
Can't wait till you compare the 23g M2K to the 26g HSK ($109-$150).
You know videos gonna be 🔥 when alis guns out suns out shorts out
great vid. I really would love to try the Zaunkoenig M2K but I absolutely need mouse buttons personally... I wish they had some!!
since i got the logitech superlight, it is very obvious that its by far my favorite mouse. ive had many razer options, the glorious model o and more, and nothing has come close to the logitech hand feel
i like the Viper v2 pro more than my superlight
just ordered my x2 mini and I'm super exited!
Update lol?
@@SanderForBuisness HAHA THATS FKING INSANE. It got stolen. Great mouse tho, nowadays id recommend an x2h or a used dav3 pro/ viper v3 pro
the g wolves hsk + with grips is endgame for me, its just amazing.
You need to order the HSK Pro Ace
Seeing the MZ1 here makes me really happy
Surprised you didn't include the pwnage ultra custom symm 2(long name, I know) I bought it based on your recommendation and it's an excellent mouse for gaming and even production, as well as excellent value and build quality. Everyone should check it out I think.
I also had the Pwnage Symm 2, honestly couldn't compare it to any of the 5 mice that was mentioned. I honestly think Symm 2 is overrated it feels very heavy, but I like the fact you can buy different shells.
Since I got the G pro Superlight, I have not looked at any other gaming mice 😂 best mice for gaming imo
it's may be best only before appearing of double clicks, same as most models from Logi last years have them
pleas top 5 budget gaming mouse!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your hype for zeokeonigseg or whatever its spelled made me gonna try the g wolves hsk pro 4k... similar shape..side buttons, 29 grams, wireless, 4k pollingrate.. should be cool
Man I would love a new gaming mouse for Moba games that would be DECENTLY silent... all the new mice are so goddamn loud its crazy
You don't play with headphones?
Great videos, any chance you plan on doing the Lamzu Atlantis review?
Love your vids!
My picks are gpro sl, g703, viper 8k, deathadder V3 pro, and viper v2 pro.
Been watching u quite a long time but never realized i wasn't subscribed so now i can say i was here before a million xd
The idea is 300 euro over 10 years. Worth it 😅?
Forearm workout?
You should check out the Logitech G502 X Lightspeed
Sucks that finalmouse is nearly impossible to get at MSRP
Will you be reviewing the Hsk 4k/Ace?
Can we see your filming and production setup?
cooler master mm720 is another good fingertip grip option if you have large hands
These gotta be the most mice in the market
You need to try the g wolves hts plus ace. Haven’t touched my starlight since having it.
Great video man!!
Aussie aussie oi oi i just got this from Lee's stream xd
Jokes aside Can we get top 5 or 10 budget mouse wired or wireless for 2022 or 2023 which is around the corner?
You should try the lamzu atlantis, i like your opinion!
6:07 *Meanwhile Apex Legends go brrr*
I can just recommend the prime wireless mini. (not working for them or getting paid)
I tried so many mice before (pulsar xlite v2, pulsar X2, Xtrfy MZ1, GPX superlight, finalmouse ul 2, viper pro 2 and many many more)
but the prime wireless mini is the most comfortable and most reliable gaming mouse i ever had.
Now Top 5 Gaming Mice under 70$ or something like that...
the gpx turned from white to pink lmao
what about razer viper v2?
have you heard of the zk m3k?
pls test darmoshark m3 and m3 4k
can you review deathadder v3 pro or the darmoshark m3
Will you do the ultralight x?
What about the Logitech G703, for those of us who need a heavier mouse?
I wanna try the M2K so badly but fingertip is just so uncomfortable for me
surprised to not see the viper v2 pro on the list, you should definitely try out the Lamzu atlantis and review it if you haven't already
Viper is one of the most mediocre shapes in the market for top tier mice. So many mice with better shapes. Anyone who loves the Viper shape likely just hasn't tried other mice.
ali doesn't like the viper shape so it's his choice
way too long for fingertip
@@MrDutch1e Agreed tbh, viper shape is bad for every grip
@@user-hr1uw4cj2z I'd say small hand palm it's viable but otherwise it's useless in today's market.
do you recommend getting the x2v2?
What are the reticle settings your using on the Overwatch 2 clip please :D
I have the FM tenz but I've had an issue with it basically ever since I bought it, my left click sometimes doesn''t register even though I click... it's so often too that I just need a new mouse I guess.
This guy's aesthetic is so clean
For real
One of the 🐐🐐🐐
Everything in tech he touches or builds is super clean
He's certainly not dirty
Indeed
I expected to see the viper v2 on the list, but the picks are respectable regardless
viper v2 is dog
@@TotallyNoAim UR DUMB
@@TotallyNoAim why bro?
@@TotallyNoAim no it ain't
@@TotallyNoAim glorious is dog
The problem bout the ten z is that it costs 200$,btw great vid. Think I’m gonna get the GPX.
Did’t absolutely like my own comment
I really hope zaunkoenig makes one with side buttons eventually! Also gwolves are about to release the HSK pro with 4k and better placement of the side buttons. The side buttons on the HSK+ were way too far forward for me to enjoy. Love your vids as always! 🙌
zaun themselves have said that side buttons are counterintuitive for the type of grip their mice are targeting
@@kaibevens My dreams are crushed haha jokes aside thanks for relaying that info!
I prefer coating on the Razer Viper V2 Pro over Superlight over longer sessions. I got sweaty hands and Superlight feels too sticky. Based on the tech used for sensors and switches resistant to double clicking I would recommend everyone to try Viper V2 Pro and DA3 Pro before anything else. If you go for the shape first I prefer UL2 over anything else till my fingers start to hurt from honeycomb sides (Infinity skins dont last forever).
My Deathadder Chroma gets sweaty as well. I don't know if you've had any experience with the older Deathadders, but if you have, do you know if the Viper V2 Pro's coating is an improvement?
The X2 is superb but Lamzu Atlantis def has an edge over the X2 imo.
Optimum should check that out
agreed i love my lamzu
You gotta remember Lamzu is claw mostly, x2 is fingertip which is what he uses
+ it's a lot bigger, and smaller mice are better for fingertip
Whats so good about x2? Other than fingertip of course
Just got my Atlantis and I love it.
@@HaanSoIo for sure, it all comes down to grip if the mice are similar in performance
"I'm a pretty casual player"
Proceeds to show almost 50% Widowmaker critical accuracy with insane aim.
Bruh.
Lamzu & DAV3 are really great mices, try them if you can.
I’ve tried so many but my favorite is the the Viper V2 pro
The hsk pro has been announced which is even lighter
Hey, great video as always. Wanted to lyk that g-wolves is coming out with an even newer version of the HSK, the HSK pro, which is like 28 grams wireless or something and also will support 4k - i feel like that could interest you more than the HSK+
And this is my top 5
1 deathadder 3
2 lamzu atlantis
3 xm1r
4 Lsuperlight
5 g403
Not bad, I too put the DAV3 number one also.
The Fantech Aria Xd7 is insane, and the hati s plus 4k
I really apricate this video but i have 2 questions: do you have a list for mice that are better for standard grip not fingertip how did u get those overwatch color settings. that is the most vibrant overwatch i have seen.
I am surprised that Razer didn't make it to the list. Hopefully with razer viper mini wireless will make to the next list.
I don't think he likes the brand itself.
@@robotsix6268 The latency is strong, but the grips are different from what people like. Viper has no real backhump, so its flat and deathadder v3 is ergo, which is also heavily preference. Any other doesn’t make the cut and so I thinks it is understandable.
@@robotsix6268 he likes it. He even keeps recommending the Viper mini because of its shape, and price to performance value.
@@Definitely_Melnyx He doesn’t like the regular viper shape aside from the Mini
He uses claw grip and doesnt have newborn hands so that mouse is shit for that grip
by the way what do you think about the g-wolves hsk pro 4k?
well you did something right cause the zaunkoenig M2K is sold out.
I wonder what rank this guy has in valorant from all the game clips he has shown so far on his channel his aim just seem on point
What do you think about DeathAdder V3 Pro Wireless, i want to get superlight but im not sure it will fit me properly since i have Zowie EC3C and the shape is similar of DeathAdder V3 Pro Wireless. Should I buy superlight or DeathAdder V3 Pro Wireless?
Ain’t no way I just waited 10 minutes for him to try and convince me that that little shitty Chinese mouse is the best
Keep an eye out for the upcoming G-wolves HSK Pro 4k, even smaller shape, 4k polling and 29g. Extremely hyped about receiving mine soon
brutal mouse, too much for me at the moment but I have my eye on it
Hath we not gone too far... We have 29g mice now? What's next! 20g? 10? No, no 0g? Will we invent weightless technology, FOR MICE. No I say we will return to old mice, great mice 100g mice.
@@theboogerbomb nothing great about 100g bricks... We need as light as possible mice
@@riba2233 im with you 100%. If we ever get 0g mice (or just accurate low latency hand tracking) I'm there for it
Nah hes right, some of you are obsessed. You could be swinging air and still complain it's a gram too heavy.@@riba2233
my top 3 since no one asked: Death Adder V3, gpro superlight, and X2 medium
Updated top 5 mousepads? Have you tried any of the LGGs?
I've always been curious. What rank are you on OW2?
check out hsk pro 4k
Superlight owner. I love it. Nice video, as always !
Also check out the G-Wolves HSK Pro with PMW-3395! It comes in two varieties: Ace which is 1000 Hz and the 4K which is 4000 Hz.
I currently have the Plus and love it, though think I'll prefer the button positioning on the Pro more.
I would love to see you review the ninjutso sora once it is released :))
mz1 wireless>>
You mentioned you ordered the HSK+ but I suggest preordering the new HSK 4k or HSK Pro. They made the shape smaller than the HSK+ and is more similar to the M2K in size. Wireless, 4k polling rate, and 25-29g. Might be an upgrade from the M2K since the specs on paper are so good.
Was super hoping he'd look at the HSK 4K/Ace. Side buttons look like their in the right place now, and they cut the weight down so much. Been tempted to just dive in myself but I'll wait for reviews.
This mouse looks endgame, wow
HSK 4K or HSK Pro isn't close to the M2K in shape/size. It is way smaller, much more narrow, and much flatter.
Wait, where is the Razer Viper V2 Pro Wireless??
No Razer Viper V2 Pro?!
baby wake up optimum tech has posted again
How do you think about Lamzu?
Really looking forward to the Sora. If the build quality is good, it'll probably be my endgame.
where's aerox3 ?
i just got my G-wolves HSK pro plus wireless today and its really good just like nothing else for finger tip grip. I highly recommend for anyone who wants the M2K without spending an obseen amount of money for 29g of product
One question! I love the shape of Glorious model D but the materials are low quality! Any suggestions on that shape? Thank you!
Deathadder v3 pro
Why the hell do I wanna buy a $300 mouse now. Damn it. I was perfectly fine not knowing it existed
Zowie rouge better than Artisan?
Very curious about the soon to be released HSK pro Ace from G-wolves, it's getting into M2K weight territory at about half the price. Shame about the micro-usb, though.
5:50
This is what I tell my friends all the time, couldn't have worded it better
The MZ1 is crazy good to use. Best I have tried. But it is so different that you need to get used to it
i have the mz1 wireless i love it too :D
With the GPZ1 control mouse pad with it it’s deadly combination
I think that G-wolves new HSK Pro Ace Wireless should be on the list its close to the mouse you have on number 1 but it haves side buttons!
how can it be on his list if he never tried it?
Viper v3 is technically better mouse then pulsar or xtrfy...u have viper too. Any reasons u picked those two over viper?
Clearly not price thing since the video is about your top 5 preference. Would love to know the take!
something i don't understand is the prixe of the pulsar X2, at least for me on amazon it's 95€, when the G Pro X Superlight is around 120€, the reason i say i don't understand that is because why the hell would you pick the Pulsar X2 if the price difference is so low ? if it was idk 75€ why not but 95 vs 120 ? i'm taking the superlight everyday
you forgot to mention 2 things that sets the m2k apart from all others. the 01F japanese omrons (best lightest switch) and higher than 1k polling rate (4k i think? maybe 8k?) more mice need lighter switches! they’re all getting the dumb heavy 8.0’s!
6:52 I got my OG down to 48 grams.😎
"I'm a pretty casual fps played i've never achieved any high ranks or anything" I dont want to hear it
"PRETTY CASUAL FPS PLAYER"
lies
can you do best mmo mouse that is good for productivity usage? pretty please? 😁😁