I don’t think this Kang was lying lol. He really didn’t care what happened either way. And he knows how dangerous his variants are. Interested to see how he’s gonna come up in Ant Man.
Well this particular versions younger one could just deviate as one of the branch timeline and just was doing time hoping, goofing around meeting fantastic four.
@@yolandapaulino5952 well one version wil won and take control and prevent other versions from exist so i dont think there is more Kang in MCU in the future.
There are no different TVA, the TVA exists outside of time ,so there can't be a divergent timeline of TVA cause TVA doesn't reside in a timeline, basically Real Kang has been unleashed and he has reset the TVA, there is no alternate TVA
Surely for this timeline. But there are multiple Kangs and for those multiple universal timelines, every Kang must have made their own TVA, just like Kang explained that they all learned together from 31st century. Kang showed how the Kang variants use to interact, which is by that timepad device. And Sylvie did used a timepad to send Loki back to the TVA, but the timepad was of Kang's and his timepad looked different. Surely his timepad must have access to other alternate timelines as his timepad is at the end of time where it goes beyond the control of TVA. Hence he could create a portal to walk in through to other alternate times. So Loki must be in a timeline where Kang didn't had to put up that fake 3 timekeeper's image. As in his timeline, the present Kang would have done that only to lay the path for Sylvie and Loki to get to him, like he said. Inshort, this is mind explosive thing. LOL!
@@sagargogoi5747 the reality in which Loki was sent had the real Kang and I think Doctor Strange and Loki are gonna fight him because they both are sorcerers
@@Souchi-ito yea, but he did it for a cause. he saved wars for supremacy between all 9 by conquering them all, hence bringing peace. he imprisoned Hela cause she wanted to wage unessasary wars
Did you guys see the transition of loki from episode 1 to 6 ...? At the beginning he was kind of mischievous...later on he became a good man in my observation.
Even if this happens, I think there will be only one major villain from now on. And that will be Variants of Kang. All the upcoming movies will interface this challenge, facing Variants of Kang. So exciting!
@@the_realmkc4452 no, but the one sylvie killed is the most reasonable one and tries to keep the timeline safe. The one we see at the end of the episode is Kang the conquerer and my theory is that this is the same tva that kang reset. Because the tva exists out of time
So great that you pointed out Tom Hiddlestons performance and the part where he says "No." when Sylvie asks him to kill her. You can really hear in his voice his thoughts "please don't say this, don't make me do this". And I gotta say, I absolutely love them together and no I don't find it weird. I think this episode especially makes it clear that all the variants are completely different from each other. They are all their own person. Sylvie is her own person and Loki falling in love with her is not Loki falling in love with himself, but really caring for someone else. Sylki forever
With the exception of the Snap this might be the single most monumental event to affect the entire MCU. And it was just announced that Loki is gonna be in Doctor Strange and the Multiverse do Madness. Dude this movie is gonna be the biggest “stand alone” movie in the MCU since Civil War!
Key word being MULTIVERSE. A lot of reactors don't seem to catch on that there won't just be one Kang the Conqueror. Imagine a million Hitlers trying to conquer all universes.
if u noticed at the end scene. B-15 say what does he wants us to do just let them branch? so this tva is controlled by Kang just himself. and no time keepers just kang.
and finally multiuniverse was started in MCU officialy and THE way loki saying about kang variants remembers me of HULK in infinity war said to DOCTORSTRANGE about thanos Edit: And there's so many 2.the lady loki was new star lord 3.we all see Kang tower and Easter eggs about Kang is there because it's he who remains timelines so I think those were pruned by him from kang
Initially there were 3 statues.. Statues of the 3 Time Keepers. Now it's changed to just one. A variant of He Who Remains. And now he is directly in charge of the TVA without using the fake Time Keepers. I guess it's like he said.. "You kill me and eventually I end up back here"... except that it's a different variant. And also Mobius doesn't remember Loki. It's like as if the TVA was reset.
Loki, Wanda-Vision, Spiderman 3 and Dr. Strange as said will be interconnected, 2 are done, the other 2 remains and will surely be hell of a ride to experience in theatres, hopefully theatres open before that 😭
The show was actually supposed to end in season 1, but after how big episode 1 got, they changed the ending for a second season, this episode was completed around the time episode 4 aired.
When eternals trailer came, everyone was like "why are they coming out now, why didn't they come when thanos snap happened?" Now that all the timelines are blown and Kangs' let loose, we know the answer why are eternals coming out now. Also since Kang mentioned 3 universes, there is high chance we get to see all three spiderman in the no way home movie. Alright guys, guess we are in for a great ride.
Eternal probably will be more"grounded" compare to Loki, nothing about the multiverse, they just facing one of the strongest cosmic entities besides Kang.
The TVA is out of the multiverse, therefore, out of any possible timeline. There is only 1 TVA, that was changed by Kang's variants at the moment Sylvie killed him. That's why Mobius and B-15 can't remember Loki.
I like to look at it this way, its the same TVA. Even if the TVA exists outside of time, its creation still relied on "He who remains" existing to create it. With him dead another Kang variant becomes its ruler/creator
well i think kang variant knew how he was going to die. he said that u can put ur sword into my chest and that is what sylvie did and i think he wanted her to kill him thus he took his watch tempad and kept it their in front of them. he knew chaos cant be stopped just like ragnarork in asgard. btw hatts off to mcu to keep the actor's word that kang is not going to come in this series but they instead showed one of his variants. very clever i must say
All those saying that in the end Loki reached another TVA in some another universe are forgetting that TVA operates outside any particular universe....so there's ONLY ONE TVA. Untill the death of He who remains, TVA was functioning to prevent multiversal wars & mutiversal interactions by countering nexus events and ensuring that a predetermined timeline flows in every universe......what i gathered from the end scene is that an evil variant of He who remains immediately took over TVA after sylvie killed the main variant and sabotaged the memories of TVA bureaucrats, so they've no idea what happened before....the only one who's memory is intact would be Renslayer besides Loki and sylvie...because she went somewhere earlier in the episode
it's either theres multiple tvas or just one. but mobius and loki character dynamics and history together will be thrown out of the garbage just like that if theres only one tva, do you think the writers will just trash it just like that? lets see.
Sylvie is a selfish little child. She went from seemingly good because of accompanying a heroic ex- villain, to full on villain. By killing off the one thing that controls the flow of time for her personal vengeance, without giving a crap about the consequences it may have to zillions of lifeforms all through existence, even after being warned and reasoned by Loki.
I have had lost interest in mcu after the endgame and loki brought me right back into it. Hands down the best show i have watched in recent years. They have perfectly set up the entire phase 4. Now that they set it up i am super excited to watch the phase 4.
Loki is having one of the best character development in MCU, from his essence of a thug or con artist to caring person to other . He got various shades.
They didn't send Loki to a 'different' TVA. There's only one TVA and only one timeline in the MCU prior to this show. Kang is a time traveler. He (or one of his variants) had already reset everyone at the TVA by the time Loki got back. Now there are multiple timelines with the branching off.
Btw just for knowledge who didn't know that.. In the comics there are actually 4 time keepers and one of them was " kang the conqueror". That's why in the castle one of the statue was destroyed cuz it was kang's.
I’ve watched this conversation several times I something just dawned on me. It didn’t matter what choice the Loki’s made…a kang variant would still seek to conquer it all.
Future prediction: Loki’s new mission will be to get the timeline back to just one. In doing so the universes merge and that’s how we get all the X-men and new heroes in just one universe.
Not just Loki/TVA. There's gonna be soo many parties trying to do so, Marvel is probably gonna stitch in a massive Multi-movie appearance partnership between multiple parties spearheaded by Loki, Doctor Strange, Spider-men, Scarlet Witch, The Pyms etc.
A "multiverse of multiverse" is nothing, but an omniverse. Marvel has its own multiverse, just like DC, Dragon Ball, etc. But there's no such thing as a multiverse of a multiverse. There can be no other TVA either, because the TVA resides outside of time and space of any universe. The TVA can only be reset/rewound, which is what Kang (another version of himself) has already done.
It is not Kang, he's He Who Remains (Good Version which keeping evil versions at bay). The concept is just like Kami from Dragonball Z way back. Ppl also surprised then when saw the good Kami which looks like Evil Lord Piccolo!
@FlickTalk First: He said that for himself, Loki and Sylvie. Second: He also said that though all three have done some horrible, terrible, horrific things, but now they had a chance to do them for a good reason. His actions give 'end justifies the means' kind of vibe. So he may have been a villain but atleast he had been keeping the multiverses from going into an all ending war.
The one who played the role of "he who remains" is already signed for kang in Antman and wasp quantamania.... So the basic story is kang is a different variant of "he who remains" where he was playing defensive , but other variant like kang are pure evil...because he died and multiverse opened... there are many timelines exist... and it's obvious that one of the kang version again end the multiversal war...and set up TVA .. where loki found himself in the end .. It's an endless loop. . When someone kill who run the authority... multiverse opens... and then all variant of kang again involve in war. . And the one who is strongest again build the TVA to eliminate other kang..
You have to refer back to Endgame when Bruce said that if you change the past your past becomes your present. After Sylvia killed the good version of Kang, time changed. The past of where there were Time Keepers, no longer exists. It is now ruled by the new variant Kang. That is why the statue was just of the single Kang.
What basically happened was as kang said that the timeline had reached threshold, restarted itself and started to branch itself, leading to mobius and all of tva beginning again their cycle of time from the starting of time itself, into a new kang(evil one) lead tva, so they haven't even met loki yet they still have time to meet him in their future, but they might not because time has been branched now.
I am suuuper happy to stood my ground and since the beginning of this show my Villain was 100% Kang. But wow, I didn't expect the way they brought him up. This is insane. From now on there's only one Villain on the entire MCU or should I say MCM (MARVEL CINEMATIC MULTIVERS). This is going to be crazy guys. I'm super excited about what's coming next!
That Kang they meet here is the another variant of the ruthless Kang The Conqueror. This one is the wiser variant. This wiser Kang variant have put all those other variants kept in check in their own 'verse prison' but now that the wiser Kang is 'dead', it means now the 'prison' is broken and so prepare for other variant of him come haunting the verse. In a way, Loki is a changed God Of Mischief and he wants Order to be preserve while Sylvie...she just gave us the multiverse. For that, thank you Sylvie!!!!!!!!!!!
13:08 that statue means that the timeline Loki is in, is different because In the original one there were three statues of the time lizards but here it's of kang.
No, TVA is beyond time so this is the same tva but now there are multiple timelines and the mutiverse war started the moment the good version of kang was killed by sylvie. Hence evil kang has taken over the tva already.
Now the possibility of every villian heroes can be back and diversified... I think the story telling has hundreds thousands of option here. Damnn this is good ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Sylvie literally pulled a star-lord like in infinity war except worse because she just unleashed a variant who has the power, technology and intelligence to conquer universes.
True but I think when your whole purpose in life for thousands of years (except when she realises she found a person who loves her and cares for her) is to destroy the TVA, then it's really understandable why she would do what she did. That she only is sader than before that moment cause it didn't bring satisfaction and to do it she had to push away the only one who loved her makes it just worse.
Here begins the next 10 -15 years of MCU ...damn can't believe started watching first iron man, captain america & avengers tetrology now its going like taking another way. If next decades generation watches the MCU their like "two -footed in the boat "
Jaby, I think the TVA where Loki was sent to, was actually a result of Sylvie plunging her sword into Immortus (sorta good version of Kang; they don't really call him that in the show though). So, before that, there was only one timeline with one TVA. The timeline is actually the circle surrounding the citadel. So, after good guy Kang was killed, that circle starts to branch off. As a result of that, every timeline now has its own TVA, signifying that every version of Kang is now on a quest to establish their own dominance over the multiversal timeline and rule it. Or rather, "conquer" it.
Why is everyone saying that Loki went to a different timeline version of the TVA? They explained that TVA exists above all time in a pocket dimension. So there can only be one TVA. There can be 2 reasons Mobius and B-15 don't know Loki and there was a Kang statue - 1. Since He Who Remains Died and he was the one preventing any branches, so branches started growing throughout the Sacred Timeline(which also means before the creation of the TVA) and some other version of Kang (possibly evil) created this TVA and the older TVA never existed. And this version of Kang probably doesn't care about getting his hands dirty so he didn't use the fake Time Keepers. 2. If we consider that the timeline BEFORE the threshold was made according to He Who Remains and hence it cannot grow any branches even after his death then it means the branches can only begin to grow after the threshold because FREE WILL became a thing after that so some version of Kang (again possibly evil) went to our original TVA and wiped everyone's memories and took control of the TVA(original one). And in both the cases since Loki and Sylvie were at the END OF ALL TIME when all of this was happening so they retained their memories because they were unaffected by all this chaos.
The Retrofuturism point you both made is a super interesting aspect of the show. Maybe in his version of the 31st century Earth is a retrofuturistic version?
Jonathon Majors portrayed the character Kang so beautifully. The whole season was as much fun as spectacular .. and now that Tom Hiddleston has confirmed his role in Multiverse of Madness(not confirmed by MCU), I'm so excited for these upcoming chapters to get disclosed starting with "What If...?" I'm hoping the S2 for Loki will drop shortly after the doctor strange sequel and then we will se Jonathon Majors once again portraying his role as Kang in Antman and the wasp quantamania. This is just the beginning of Marvel Cinematic Multiverse❤️
jaby and achara it is the same tva but formed by the different version of the nathaniel richards which is kang the conqueror who acquires alioth instead of others and everything we know is branched and altered and conquerored which is going to be seen in what if?
Sophia Di Martino and Tom Hiddleston are so Great onpoint mindblowing and heartwarming at the same time. Multiverse here we come. :) Thank you Sylvie :)
First, Wandavision tells the climax of Wanda's journey to become a Scarlet Witch,Then, second, we got the falcon and the winter soldier telling the story of the falcon's journey to become captain america and bucky being a better person and anothers politics issues n exactly sharon being a suspicious person instead become agent carter,then we got loki less climax series but able to make people frustrated and ppl want more and more.. LOKI LITERALLY JUST A SMARTER WAY SERIES THAT EVER MAKE TO SET UP THE MULTIVERSE MADNESS,the cliff hanger its insanee
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Loki: Started the Infinity Saga
Sylvie (Lady Loki): Started the Multiverse Saga
Yo ur right
Yeah you are intelligent 😂😂😂
Big brain time
Yo you reel smort
Well she is definitely a Loki. I wonder what would GatorLoki do? 🤔🤣
This is basically like Thanos' Snap but even bigger
Infinity bigger
Instead of killing half the universe it created an infinite amount more universes
Sylvie is basically Star-Lord but dumber
@@maverickmurphy actually 😂😂
It's the snap in reverse!
I don’t think this Kang was lying lol. He really didn’t care what happened either way. And he knows how dangerous his variants are. Interested to see how he’s gonna come up in Ant Man.
Well this particular versions younger one could just deviate as one of the branch timeline and just was doing time hoping, goofing around meeting fantastic four.
in Ant Man, we'll probably see another, more evil Kang in Chronopolis, once they explore the quantum realm more
@Ancient Pro probably in more than that too if there’s an infinite of them
@@yolandapaulino5952 well one version wil won and take control and prevent other versions from exist so i dont think there is more Kang in MCU in the future.
@@applejuice3500 Are you sure that this will end with phase 4 and will not continue to phase 5 or so on??
Kudos to Marvel, this is how u introduce a villain without actually introducing the villain 🔥
9:16 💔 The way Loki says “No”, is just…
💔💔💔💔
Heart shattering😫😫😫😫😫❤️🩹
@@victoriaalmtroberg4681 hi
Whats really cool is that everything makes sense and doesn't at the same time.
but the thing which keeps bugging me is americans now saving universes
@@avinash_7x170 what
@@chris_ss2 the timeline of universe is controlled by English speaking people 🤣🤣
@@avinash_7x170 yes ofc, britian conquered the multiverse 🤣
@@avinash_7x170 Well it's a superhero universe what do you expect lol, too complicated otherwise
So are all the Marvel movies written by Kang till now cause he is a fantastic writer
Haha! Yes. 😂🤣 Kang is the real writer of the MCU 😂
Stan Lee is Kang.
Wasn't he more like an editor? He knows things going to happen, then chooses what he considered safe, and destroy others.
Kevin Feige is Kang.
And now plot holes are easily explained. It was written by a scientist, not an author lol
Jonathan majors is amazing actor!! Just today he got nominated for Emmys for ovecraft country ..what a day he had!
There are no different TVA, the TVA exists outside of time ,so there can't be a divergent timeline of TVA cause TVA doesn't reside in a timeline, basically Real Kang has been unleashed and he has reset the TVA, there is no alternate TVA
OOOH I like this. I was wondering what was happening to the TVA and why B-15 and Mobius didn't know Loki.
Surely for this timeline. But there are multiple Kangs and for those multiple universal timelines, every Kang must have made their own TVA, just like Kang explained that they all learned together from 31st century.
Kang showed how the Kang variants use to interact, which is by that timepad device. And Sylvie did used a timepad to send Loki back to the TVA, but the timepad was of Kang's and his timepad looked different. Surely his timepad must have access to other alternate timelines as his timepad is at the end of time where it goes beyond the control of TVA. Hence he could create a portal to walk in through to other alternate times. So Loki must be in a timeline where Kang didn't had to put up that fake 3 timekeeper's image. As in his timeline, the present Kang would have done that only to lay the path for Sylvie and Loki to get to him, like he said.
Inshort, this is mind explosive thing. LOL!
@@sagargogoi5747 I mean yaa that could be true as well, at this point anything can happen, it's all multiverse of madness lol
@@sagargogoi5747 the reality in which Loki was sent had the real Kang and I think Doctor Strange and Loki are gonna fight him because they both are sorcerers
@@sagargogoi5747 this is some mind bending sh*t lol 😂😂😂
If only Odin could see loki now trying to protect countless people he would be so proud
He is. I hope there will be a Thor cameo in season 2. And I hope Sylvie and Loki get back together. ^^
Odin was a mass murderer himself. Remember Hella?
@@Kronse2601 nah I don't think Loki and Sylvie will live together coz Lokis are meant to live alone and that's what makes them a loki
@@Kronse2601 nah. she was a complete idiot to kill Kang lol. Loki should have killed her and he could have saved millions
@@Souchi-ito yea, but he did it for a cause. he saved wars for supremacy between all 9 by conquering them all, hence bringing peace. he imprisoned Hela cause she wanted to wage unessasary wars
Loki was beyond any expectation. Just Perfect and Peerless.
Dear Sylvie,
Thank you for giving us Tobey and Andrew this Christmas
Sincerely, a random marvel fan
Also, Wanda her kids. 😁😁
And for bringing iron Man back
Hang on.....we must thank to hulk😑because of him we have loki series and the multiverse.
In that case, you have to thank the one who remains as he led them all the way. 🙄🙄
@@niranjankrishnan1402 no mate.
Did you guys see the transition of loki from episode 1 to 6 ...?
At the beginning he was kind of mischievous...later on he became a good man in my observation.
Yeah that was point
Yes. That's called character development.
The only question I have is where did Rovonna gone , what were in that downloaded files?
@@sethrollins4923 wait till season 2
At this point a Thanos variant we might see in future
We already saw one in endgame
Even if this happens, I think there will be only one major villain from now on. And that will be Variants of Kang. All the upcoming movies will interface this challenge, facing Variants of Kang. So exciting!
@@sagar8538 true! That’s why they explained in Loki the alternative timelines and parallel universes, endgame thanos was the timeline
I don't think josh Brolin would return
@@idotnknow well as we saw with Red Skull in Endgame, we don’t need him to bring thanos back
Chill Jaby, don't get confused.
Just wait for Erik Voss' Breakdown
Damn dude. I see what you did there🤘 Even I'm waiting for Erik's Eagle Eye Breakdown.
Lol right
Everyone is Mephisto
This episode was just amazing turning point for all the future movies the multiverse is officially open let's goo
Loki is the one who brings Thanos into lime light in Avengers. Now he brings Kang/He who remains.
'She' brings
"By far, the best Dr. Who season - ever." - Me.
I know right ! Can not wait for more mcu multiverse stuff.
I saw this exact same comment under the Mary Cherry reaction.
@@The_RedVIII Yeap, that was all me.
wdym?
This how you know Kang is gonna be a badass, Loki seemed legitimately terrified of what he knows he’s capable of.
She didn’t send him to another universe. He was in the same tva, the only difference is the timeline changed so no one knows himm
He was in the same tva, that's like saying loki and sylvie are the same loki. 'Only difference' makes a universal difference
It was ta same tva but evil Kang is behind it this time cause Sylvie killed the good variant of Kang. Kang himself warned about his evil variant.
@@samitmunikar2443 no variant of Kang is good dummy
@@the_realmkc4452 but this one was more reasonable and did this for stopping multi Versal War but others may do it for personal gain.
@@the_realmkc4452 no, but the one sylvie killed is the most reasonable one and tries to keep the timeline safe. The one we see at the end of the episode is Kang the conquerer and my theory is that this is the same tva that kang reset. Because the tva exists out of time
Tom Hiddleston killed it in the fight scene.
This whole episode was a masterpiece.👌
So great that you pointed out Tom Hiddlestons performance and the part where he says "No." when Sylvie asks him to kill her. You can really hear in his voice his thoughts "please don't say this, don't make me do this". And I gotta say, I absolutely love them together and no I don't find it weird. I think this episode especially makes it clear that all the variants are completely different from each other. They are all their own person. Sylvie is her own person and Loki falling in love with her is not Loki falling in love with himself, but really caring for someone else. Sylki forever
I'm gonna tattoo that onto my arm. Sylki forever...
Yeah he is amazing 😍😊😍😊
Slyki.... Hmmm this has a nice ring to it!!!
With the exception of the Snap this might be the single most monumental event to affect the entire MCU.
And it was just announced that Loki is gonna be in Doctor Strange and the Multiverse do Madness. Dude this movie is gonna be the biggest “stand alone” movie in the MCU since Civil War!
The most important film of phase 4
@Bhavya Gala horror for kids
@@notyournormalguy_45 Pikachu spotted
That's exactly I would do! Afterall, that Kang took her life.
And now begins the infinite timelines where kang will always win!! Truly an introduction for Kang the Conqueror.
I'm super excited! I can't even... O.M.G it's happening
This Multiverse is gonna bigger than Infinity saga....So much Excited.
Fingers crossed we get a 'Petty criminal Helicopter pilot Thanos' in the future.
And the Throg who's seeking his mjolnir ofc!
@Ben Dover th-cam.com/video/ig4RU8OyO2Q/w-d-xo.html
Please see this review of loki series
we saw the helicopter in the end of time, i dont think we will see it live tho
@TheDoomer the chopper was seen in the Void!!
I imagine that thanos created the copter, then the TVA pruned it before he could use it.
He got pissed. Thus, "Fine, ill do it myself"
sylvie had to kill "he who remains" to officially begin the multiverse in MCU
Dude that's some legendary shit!
Key word being MULTIVERSE. A lot of reactors don't seem to catch on that there won't just be one Kang the Conqueror. Imagine a million Hitlers trying to conquer all universes.
@@FireflyFalafel mcu wont be the same from now
@@watchdogs5327 fault of sylvie
Not just Multiverse, but Multiversal War* in the MCU
8:09 damn woman!
- Jaby koay
if u noticed at the end scene. B-15 say what does he wants us to do just let them branch? so this tva is controlled by Kang just himself. and no time keepers just kang.
and finally multiuniverse was started in MCU officialy and THE way loki saying about kang variants remembers me of HULK in infinity war said to DOCTORSTRANGE about thanos
Edit: And there's so many 2.the lady loki was new star lord
3.we all see Kang tower and Easter eggs about Kang is there because it's he who remains timelines so I think those were pruned by him from kang
I felt that too..
Even I too felt that
"Multiverse"
Initially there were 3 statues.. Statues of the 3 Time Keepers. Now it's changed to just one. A variant of He Who Remains. And now he is directly in charge of the TVA without using the fake Time Keepers. I guess it's like he said.. "You kill me and eventually I end up back here"... except that it's a different variant.
And also Mobius doesn't remember Loki. It's like as if the TVA was reset.
I got all chilled up when i saw him looking at the huge kang statue!
Loki, Wanda-Vision, Spiderman 3 and Dr. Strange as said will be interconnected, 2 are done, the other 2 remains and will surely be hell of a ride to experience in theatres, hopefully theatres open before that 😭
Which 2 are you talking about?
Then there's What If!
@@helenrose5383 That isn't canon tho right?
@@ishantyadav5532 Loki and Wanda-Vision
@@expiredbagel2001 It is. It is what resulted from the timeline branching.
The show was actually supposed to end in season 1, but after how big episode 1 got, they changed the ending for a second season, this episode was completed around the time episode 4 aired.
When eternals trailer came, everyone was like "why are they coming out now, why didn't they come when thanos snap happened?" Now that all the timelines are blown and Kangs' let loose, we know the answer why are eternals coming out now.
Also since Kang mentioned 3 universes, there is high chance we get to see all three spiderman in the no way home movie. Alright guys, guess we are in for a great ride.
Eternal probably will be more"grounded" compare to Loki, nothing about the multiverse, they just facing one of the strongest cosmic entities besides Kang.
So it means kang will be also in " Eternals"?
Tom hiddleston is incredible 😍
Pollard nailed KANG character!
Watt😂😂😂😂😂
wtf😂🤣
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Underrated comment😂
Dead 😂
And thus, ladies and gentlemen, starts the Multiverse of Madness. Time to buckle up.
I was hoping a Toby Maguire dance as a post credit scene
quite an underated comment
😂 Good One 😂
A lot of us probably were hoping for that, but that would also be very confusing for the other viewers who are also die-hard Marvel fans.
Thank you so much Jaby for releasing this soon, instead of waiting a 1 whole day, you're the best.
And that's why eternals had to wake up..
The TVA is out of the multiverse, therefore, out of any possible timeline. There is only 1 TVA, that was changed by Kang's variants at the moment Sylvie killed him. That's why Mobius and B-15 can't remember Loki.
The reality in the TVA was changed that is why they cant remember Loki
There is only one TVA outside multiverse
@@raghavchohda7290 That's what I said.
But since a multiverse exists, won't the other Kangs have made their own TVAs in their own respective universes?
We need more people like Sylvie Marvel madness 😂🥺
this dude literally saw all the upcoming movies
I like to look at it this way, its the same TVA. Even if the TVA exists outside of time, its creation still relied on "He who remains" existing to create it. With him dead another Kang variant becomes its ruler/creator
well i think kang variant knew how he was going to die. he said that u can put ur sword into my chest and that is what sylvie did and i think he wanted her to kill him thus he took his watch tempad and kept it their in front of them. he knew chaos cant be stopped just like ragnarork in asgard. btw hatts off to mcu to keep the actor's word that kang is not going to come in this series but they instead showed one of his variants. very clever i must say
All those saying that in the end Loki reached another TVA in some another universe are forgetting that TVA operates outside any particular universe....so there's ONLY ONE TVA. Untill the death of He who remains, TVA was functioning to prevent multiversal wars & mutiversal interactions by countering nexus events and ensuring that a predetermined timeline flows in every universe......what i gathered from the end scene is that an evil variant of He who remains immediately took over TVA after sylvie killed the main variant and sabotaged the memories of TVA bureaucrats, so they've no idea what happened before....the only one who's memory is intact would be Renslayer besides Loki and sylvie...because she went somewhere earlier in the episode
it's either theres multiple tvas or just one. but mobius and loki character dynamics and history together will be thrown out of the garbage just like that if theres only one tva, do you think the writers will just trash it just like that? lets see.
Starlord: One slap on Thanos, Avenger Endgame
Sylvie: A knifes, Marvel 10years movies series 😂
I love Sylvie
Sylvie is a selfish little child. She went from seemingly good because of accompanying a heroic ex- villain, to full on villain. By killing off the one thing that controls the flow of time for her personal vengeance, without giving a crap about the consequences it may have to zillions of lifeforms all through existence, even after being warned and reasoned by Loki.
I have had lost interest in mcu after the endgame and loki brought me right back into it. Hands down the best show i have watched in recent years. They have perfectly set up the entire phase 4. Now that they set it up i am super excited to watch the phase 4.
Loki is having one of the best character development in MCU, from his essence of a thug or con artist to caring person to other . He got various shades.
The statue looking like Kang is to infer that in that timeline Kang doesn’t use the timekeepers as a ruse he just is known as the creator
They didn't send Loki to a 'different' TVA. There's only one TVA and only one timeline in the MCU prior to this show. Kang is a time traveler. He (or one of his variants) had already reset everyone at the TVA by the time Loki got back. Now there are multiple timelines with the branching off.
Btw just for knowledge who didn't know that.. In the comics there are actually 4 time keepers and one of them was " kang the conqueror". That's why in the castle one of the statue was destroyed cuz it was kang's.
Jonathan Majors is an insanely good actor. I am beyond excited to see Kang’s variants in future movies or the second season of Loki!
Me: oh damn Sylvie what did you do??
Also me: oh wait Toby is coming back 👏👏
Thank you some people saying that time change but understand that there are different universes and Loki got sent to another one!
This really makes sense now as we are heading towards MARVEL What If..?
Each story can be happening in each individual timeline...!
Had to come back to this on the run-up to Quantumania. Can't wait to see Majors go mental as Kang.
I’ve watched this conversation several times I something just dawned on me. It didn’t matter what choice the Loki’s made…a kang variant would still seek to conquer it all.
Future prediction: Loki’s new mission will be to get the timeline back to just one. In doing so the universes merge and that’s how we get all the X-men and new heroes in just one universe.
Not just Loki/TVA. There's gonna be soo many parties trying to do so, Marvel is probably gonna stitch in a massive Multi-movie appearance partnership between multiple parties spearheaded by Loki, Doctor Strange, Spider-men, Scarlet Witch, The Pyms etc.
There is only one always that will always remain in my heart that is by Snape
Now I know , DOCTOR STRANGE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS, what it will be ...
Tom Hiddleston is beyond brilliant 👏👏
Before dying Tony stark already knew that there's gonna be multiverse!
another TVA means there's multiverse of multiverses
A "multiverse of multiverse" is nothing, but an omniverse. Marvel has its own multiverse, just like DC, Dragon Ball, etc. But there's no such thing as a multiverse of a multiverse.
There can be no other TVA either, because the TVA resides outside of time and space of any universe.
The TVA can only be reset/rewound, which is what Kang (another version of himself) has already done.
@@bluesorcerer83 no in the episode at 26:55 he who remains says theres a multiverse of multiverses look into episode
It is not Kang, he's He Who Remains (Good Version which keeping evil versions at bay). The concept is just like Kami from Dragonball Z way back. Ppl also surprised then when saw the good Kami which looks like Evil Lord Piccolo!
It is a variant of Kang.
@FlickTalk Yeah but like both good and evil versions of the Avengers can exist in the same way there can be a somewhat good Kang.
@FlickTalk Yeah but as he said "If you think I am evil, well, wait till you meet my variants."
@FlickTalk First: He said that for himself, Loki and Sylvie.
Second: He also said that though all three have done some horrible, terrible, horrific things, but now they had a chance to do them for a good reason.
His actions give 'end justifies the means' kind of vibe. So he may have been a villain but atleast he had been keeping the multiverses from going into an all ending war.
11:22- B-15: Does 'He' want us to just let them all branch??
We officially entered phase 4 of marvel with Loki.
The one who played the role of "he who remains" is already signed for kang in Antman and wasp quantamania....
So the basic story is kang is a different variant of "he who remains" where he was playing defensive , but other variant like kang are pure evil...because he died and multiverse opened... there are many timelines exist... and it's obvious that one of the kang version again end the multiversal war...and set up TVA .. where loki found himself in the end .. It's an endless loop. . When someone kill who run the authority... multiverse opens... and then all variant of kang again involve in war. . And the one who is strongest again build the TVA to eliminate other kang..
You have to refer back to Endgame when Bruce said that if you change the past your past becomes your present. After Sylvia killed the good version of Kang, time changed. The past of where there were Time Keepers, no longer exists. It is now ruled by the new variant Kang. That is why the statue was just of the single Kang.
If u all forgot, All this started because of hulk taking the stairs. XD
Incredible hulk started the multiversal war.
The acting was top tier... 10/10 would watch again.
R.I.P DC universe
I don’t think he’s living in the future, he’s observing time from outside time itself.
What basically happened was as kang said that the timeline had reached threshold, restarted itself and started to branch itself, leading to mobius and all of tva beginning again their cycle of time from the starting of time itself, into a new kang(evil one) lead tva, so they haven't even met loki yet they still have time to meet him in their future, but they might not because time has been branched now.
That intro was crazy cause it showed us our universe were used to then showing other universes that are similar but different
I am suuuper happy to stood my ground and since the beginning of this show my Villain was 100% Kang. But wow, I didn't expect the way they brought him up. This is insane. From now on there's only one Villain on the entire MCU or should I say MCM (MARVEL CINEMATIC MULTIVERS). This is going to be crazy guys. I'm super excited about what's coming next!
The jaw dropping thing for me was the little Loki's nexus event!
That Kang they meet here is the another variant of the ruthless Kang The Conqueror. This one is the wiser variant. This wiser Kang variant have put all those other variants kept in check in their own 'verse prison' but now that the wiser Kang is 'dead', it means now the 'prison' is broken and so prepare for other variant of him come haunting the verse.
In a way, Loki is a changed God Of Mischief and he wants Order to be preserve while Sylvie...she just gave us the multiverse. For that, thank you Sylvie!!!!!!!!!!!
When Eternals said that they won't interfere until now, they meant about multiverse not Thanos
This is the Citadel in the Nexus of all realities 😵😵😵 where Apocalypse steals time RIP Immortus/Kang 😥
There was a single TVA for sacred timeline. But after the branching, different TVAs came into existence. (My opinion)
There are no different TVA, the TVA exists out of time, so basically real kang has been unleashed and he reset the TVA and rules it now
13:08 that statue means that the timeline Loki is in, is different because In the original one there were three statues of the time lizards but here it's of kang.
No, TVA is beyond time so this is the same tva but now there are multiple timelines and the mutiverse war started the moment the good version of kang was killed by sylvie. Hence evil kang has taken over the tva already.
@@Dark-wc4pu so if this is the same tva then is the mobius different. why doesn't he remember Loki.
@@Raju-ys3iy I think he's the same mobius.just brain washed.
Now the possibility of every villian heroes can be back and diversified... I think the story telling has hundreds thousands of option here. Damnn this is good ❤️❤️❤️❤️
The man behind the curtain was 👌👌
Sylvie literally pulled a star-lord like in infinity war except worse because she just unleashed a variant who has the power, technology and intelligence to conquer universes.
she had no reason to trust his words dummy
Starlord's was a universal error. But Sylvie's multiversal.
True but I think when your whole purpose in life for thousands of years (except when she realises she found a person who loves her and cares for her) is to destroy the TVA, then it's really understandable why she would do what she did. That she only is sader than before that moment cause it didn't bring satisfaction and to do it she had to push away the only one who loved her makes it just worse.
You should watch Jonathan Majors in “Lovecraft Country”. That show is one hell of a crazy ride.
Yep actually I don't like the show. But he is a goooood actor.
@@karthikeyan-qn6qg while watching that show I was feeling like I am high or something 😂😂😂
@@217prateek yeah great graphics and highly produced show. But screenplay and story sucks.
Here begins the next 10 -15 years of MCU ...damn can't believe started watching first iron man, captain america & avengers tetrology now its going like taking another way. If next decades generation watches the MCU their like "two -footed in the boat "
4:18 And again...the woman with the most brilliant intuitions
The timeline she sent him to was the one where Kang The Conqueror, the BAD one, is in charge.
Jaby, I think the TVA where Loki was sent to, was actually a result of Sylvie plunging her sword into Immortus (sorta good version of Kang; they don't really call him that in the show though). So, before that, there was only one timeline with one TVA. The timeline is actually the circle surrounding the citadel. So, after good guy Kang was killed, that circle starts to branch off. As a result of that, every timeline now has its own TVA, signifying that every version of Kang is now on a quest to establish their own dominance over the multiversal timeline and rule it. Or rather, "conquer" it.
Why is everyone saying that Loki went to a different timeline version of the TVA? They explained that TVA exists above all time in a pocket dimension. So there can only be one TVA. There can be 2 reasons Mobius and B-15 don't know Loki and there was a Kang statue -
1. Since He Who Remains Died and he was the one preventing any branches, so branches started growing throughout the Sacred Timeline(which also means before the creation of the TVA) and some other version of Kang (possibly evil) created this TVA and the older TVA never existed. And this version of Kang probably doesn't care about getting his hands dirty so he didn't use the fake Time Keepers.
2. If we consider that the timeline BEFORE the threshold was made according to He Who Remains and hence it cannot grow any branches even after his death then it means the branches can only begin to grow after the threshold because FREE WILL became a thing after that so some version of Kang (again possibly evil) went to our original TVA and wiped everyone's memories and took control of the TVA(original one).
And in both the cases since Loki and Sylvie were at the END OF ALL TIME when all of this was happening so they retained their memories because they were unaffected by all this chaos.
I called him the Kang who remains. Seems she sent him to a different universe TVA. B-15 and Mobius are referring to “he,” at the end. It’s their Kang.
I am more in the REWROTE history camp than alternate TVA now.
Actually she sent him in the same tva but the madness has already begun, kang he gave a wink before he got killed by Sylvie
The Retrofuturism point you both made is a super interesting aspect of the show. Maybe in his version of the 31st century Earth is a retrofuturistic version?
He's in a different timeline where kang is the leader of TVA
Same timeline
Jonathon Majors portrayed the character Kang so beautifully. The whole season was as much fun as spectacular .. and now that Tom Hiddleston has confirmed his role in Multiverse of Madness(not confirmed by MCU), I'm so excited for these upcoming chapters to get disclosed starting with "What If...?"
I'm hoping the S2 for Loki will drop shortly after the doctor strange sequel and then we will se Jonathon Majors once again portraying his role as Kang in Antman and the wasp quantamania.
This is just the beginning of Marvel Cinematic Multiverse❤️
Being from year 3200-3299 decor from 1950 would have an ancient and timeless athletic
jaby and achara it is the same tva but formed by the different version of the nathaniel richards which is kang the conqueror who acquires alioth instead of others and everything we know is branched and altered and conquerored which is going to be seen in what if?
😤😤😤😤😤🔥🔥🔥🔥
nice theory bro i didnt thought of this
Sophia Di Martino and Tom Hiddleston are so Great
onpoint mindblowing and heartwarming at the same time.
Multiverse here we come. :) Thank you Sylvie :)
First, Wandavision tells the climax of Wanda's journey to become a Scarlet Witch,Then, second, we got the falcon and the winter soldier telling the story of the falcon's journey to become captain america and bucky being a better person and anothers politics issues n exactly sharon being a suspicious person instead become agent carter,then we got loki less climax series but able to make people frustrated and ppl want more and more.. LOKI LITERALLY JUST A SMARTER WAY SERIES THAT EVER MAKE TO SET UP THE MULTIVERSE MADNESS,the cliff hanger its insanee