Recommended reading: The Great Hunger, by Cecil Woodham-Smith The Graves Are Walking: The Great Famine and the Saga of the Irish People, by John Kelly Podcast: Irish History Podcast Say hi to Rob's newest family member! 4:43 - what exactly *was* the blight? 7:35 - flags, flags, flags 9:20 - difference between "British" and "English" 10:26 - the psychology behind low-balling numbers 18:52 - we couldn't do an episode on the Battle of Mrs. McCormick's Cabbage Patch :( 22:57 - what's next on Extra History! 23:27 - Walpole fact!
In Canada the peelers is where ladies of questionable std status dance for tips while "peeling" their clothes off. Funny how phrases change meaning over time and distance, eh?
I am surprised you did not bring up the issue of Clone Propagation in the series. Growing potato plants from seed potatoes means that you are making clones and if you use potatoes from seed potatoes you can end up with fields, or multiple fields full of clones of the same plant. This means that if the original parent is vulnerable to a disease the entire crop is as well.
@@eldorados_lost_searcher And the Gross Michael cultivar before them. Ever wonder why some banana flavours taste different than a real banana? It's not just the artificiality, it's that it was patterned after an older, sweeter variety that, while it still exists, can no longer be grown at commercial scales without inviting the blight that wrecked it before. I wonder what they'll replace the modern Cavendish with?
@@eldorados_lost_searcher The cloning situation is worse with bananas. You can still grow potatoes from seeds, many comercial banana strains might produce one seed for every ten million bananas.
@@eldorados_lost_searcher It is the second time this happend. Until the 1950s a different strain of bananas was used. It was killed of by the a variation of the current disease.
Congratulations on your new baby! The baby looks very healthy so keep watch against changelings. Those Irish fairies can be devious. :) And thanks for all your hard work on top of having to take care of a new baby. Despite whatever mistakes have been found, you did a great job! Good luck with everything!
Congrats on the little one and on the series. Growing up in Ireland and with a grandmother born only a few generations after the famine, who was a historian and from a farming community which would have held very personal memories of the events, I really appreciate that you managed to make me aware of aspects I hadn't considered before. Also, I totally get that you can't get everything right while trying to summarize such a complex series of events, decisions, policies etc. into several TH-cam videos, all while welcoming a new life into the world, so congrats again on both. Looking forward the upcoming episodes.
Love you, Man! You're so unassuming, no subconscious expression of vanity. You're so much immersed into the subject when you talk. God Bless your daughter!
See the problem with your interpretation is that you don't get that, at the time, the Irish had been proven to be "Naturally Inferior" because we were members of the Celtic races in comparison to the... let's say Supreme Race of the Anglo-Saxons. There is a reason they used terms like "The White Chimpanzee" to describe my ancestors. It was considered inevitable that we would/*should* be driven to extinction to free up land and resources for our betters. This is one of those times where people really need to stop this both sides stuff, sometimes people are just as bad as their actions sound.
regarding the Irish population not rebounding post famine, birth rates have also seriously dropped as you can imagine and Ireland is much less religious now. my great grandmother (daughter of a famine survivor) had 20 kids, her daughter had five, my mother had two (and emigrated as well). sooo famine, immigration and changing family sizes had a real impact (birth control is amazing!)
Not below replacement levels though. Even today Irish women have a healthy average of 2.1 children. The massive drop in population post famine is explained by high mortality/emigration. Birth rates are a red herring.
Too cute. Blessings to the baby. Your videos are fantastic. Don't worry about inaccuracies due to family emergency. We understand and are happy to sit through the corrections. 🤗
Where Peel and police are concerned you should not ignore the fact that Peel had already been instrumental in the reform of the Dublin police and the creation of the Dublin Metropolitan Police in 1814 as well as the creation of the forerunners of the Royal Irish Constabulary when he was Chief Secretary of Ireland. Part of the paralysing misery of Ireland at the time was the creation of a system of informers thereby, who received the confiscated assets of the accused, a fine racket which persisted until the British were finally turfed out.
I grew up in the 1980s along the Monaghan/South Armagh border. My wife still disbelieves some of the things I’ve mentioned in passing over the years. Brexit terrifies me. It’s economic suicide for the UK, but also going to hit us very hard financially. Politically there are obvious fears about division post Brexit.
Thomas Francis Meagher - young Irelander, transported to Tasmania, escaped, emigrated to the US, became a brigadier general in the US Army during the Civil War. There is a series of crime novels about Sir John Fielding, by Bruce Alexander. I hope the siege of Vienna mentions croissants.
Maybe you guys can someday cover the great leap forward and aftermath and the aftermath of its aftermath (the cultural revolution)? I always find that particular chain of events fascinating.
Walsh 90 they fought as an Irish division, so to avoid being integrated as British, so not really, unless you were unionist which are more British than Irish.
If your particular area of interest is the professionalization of English law enforcement, have you considered doing an Extra Fantasy about all the law enforcement jokes in Discworld that we in America don't get? Because some of those people you mentioned in the Walpole connection sound suspiciously like they're from Ankh-Morpok.
Thanks for all yall do. im a amateur history buff ive always loved almost every bit of history from the wars to the people just trying to live there day to day lives. thank u for bringing history to any ones who wishes to learn more
Really excited that France is getting a full series with Joan of Arc. Also with that aside about mountaineering, I would LOVE a series on some of those early Everest expeditions. Could throw in some nice lore about the mountain from the Sherpa. I love the episodes focused on more civilian driven event, as well as social movements. Oh and a series on law enforcement and crime in 19th century London would be AMAZING!!
Was glad to see this video come out, I have always been a huge fan of you and was so sad to see how many facts you got wrong and how many points you didn't expand on. Please keep it up would love to see more irish stories
If you do a series on mountaineering, you can tie it back to this series by discussing the Stuck-Karstens Expedition to the top of Denali. The youngest of the climbers and the first man to the summit was the son of a survivor of the Irish potato famine, and the man credited with unlocking the Alaska-Yukon gold rush, Arthur Harper. Also useful if you want to do a series on the Yukon gold rush. You can make it a trilogy!
A more interesting video would be the Weimar Republic in general, the various socialist & fascist paramilitaries it had, and its early advances in LGBT medicine
@@moritamikamikara3879 Depending on where you are, at least EC would give a better coverage of the ramp-up. I know in my history class it was covered like "and then Hitler just *appeared* one day, and everyone was shocked. Shocked I say! And then we bombed them until he killed himself. This is the entirety of the whole story. Do not read up on it. Now let's microfocus on specific battles because that's the important part of wars."
Huh, I really admire how seriously you take your role as a producer of this kind of content. I think it's so tempting for historians to editorialize, even if just for entertainment value, because if power corrupts, the telling of history is where we can all be the victor and set the future in motion some way we'd prefer. It's rampant in the schools and I wish we lived by a philosophy more often as a society. Thanks for taking the time to show all your thinking and making probably one of the best behind the scenes / everything I always hope for in a behind the scenes. Top quality. I haven't even scene the series actually... ha. I was searching for the history of cabbage and I landed here first. Will start immediately to familiarize myself with this channel :3
Something mentioned in college economic history was that through clearing the serfs from the land, the owners could raise sheep instead. The mills, weaving Irish wool, made more money for the land owners than the little farmers' plots did. Possible subject: Flanders Field during WWI. So many died in the mud.
Oliver Cromwell died in 1658. He was not even alive when the Victorian era began. He did however cause a lot of deaths in Ireland, mostly from famine bc of destroyed crops. He also killed a lot of English ppl in the English civil war, including the King.
I mean, that person wasn't wrong that distance, and the decrease in passion 'can' lead to more accurate and nuanced assessment that leads to better solutions. It can also, of course, lead to people avoiding the truth. But if you make an active attempt at both being empathetic in action, but calm and observant in assessment, you really get the best combination. Passion just clouds judgement, honestly, and it's best to avoid it if you can also try and be impartial and rational about things. Psychopaths who have decided to be altruistic really are the best people to put in office.
"this is layered" That reality is beyond most people. Have you read Friedrich Engels "The Condition of the working class in England" (1845), specifically what he wrote about the Irish? The modern English working class has significant Irish descent, just as the Irish ruling class has always had significant Anglo-Irish and Anglo-Norman roots. The wormhole runs deep on this one.
Thank you for considering the Christchurch shooting. Mass shootings here in New Zealand are exceptionally rare. It has shaken all of us. Congrats on the new baby too. Could you consider some episodes on the NZ Land Wars?
One thing I noted was that they were called "American Wakes" in Ireland. But over here, they tend to be called "Irish Wakes"... Depends on who is telling the tale... Those who stayed telling their tales vs the ones who survived to make it here telling theirs...
Hello Extra Credits. I have been waiting for a chance to bring this up. One of the my pet peeves is when Britain and England are used interchangeably. As a result, whenever I hear it, I tend to remember it. Let me say that as far as I can recall, this never happened in this series. Not once. No mention of the English parliament, army, or navy. No mention of English soldiers. All ceased to exist upon the acts of Union in 1707. People, parliament or government "in England" gets a pass as that is a place and that is where they were. EC, you get a very rare 10/10 in this regard.
@@mirzaahmed6589 That's another slang word for police officers, I don't know the origin of that one. There's also coppers, and the verb coppering to refer to police work
@@AbsolXGuardian That's also attributable to Sir Robert: "Robert Peel’s system was a success, and by the mid-19th century large American cities had created similar police forces. In London, the policemen were so identified with the politician who created them that they were referred to as “Peelers” or-more memorably-“Bobbies,” after the popular nickname for Robert." www.history.com/news/why-are-british-police-officers-called-bobbies
I'm disappointed that they didn't acknowledge their map mistake in episode 4 where they incorrectly labelled the "Minnesota Territory" as "Minessota Territory"
I see Trevelyan as pretty similar to Lysenko. I think both genuinely believed the pseudoscience they were peddling, but ultimately they only did what they did because they didn’t care about the lives of the people they were harming
Enjoyed the talk about the Irish in the US Civil War, but you didn't mention Patrick Cleburne in that context. He was probably the most talented division commander on either side, but was denied promotion in the Confederate Army because he advocated freeing slaves to fight for the South. He comes up a lot in alternate historical context discussion. Favorite story, one of the Union Irish Commanders asked him under a flag of truce if after the war was over he'd help him invade Canada. He turned him down.
Another great episode of correcting the record. 12:55 - Huh, that sounds like the reasoning behind the Jones Act, which has gotten in the way of Puerto Rico's recovery since the 2017 hurricane.
7:35. Also, your typical farmer's diet in England at the time would have been heavy on the bread and cheese. Not terrible, mind, but missing a few nutrients, like vitamin C. The Irish would have had some from the potato and supplemented with the occasional rasher of bacon for fats and milk on a good day. (Sometimes even cabbage was available.)
I love me some Lies. Cutest excuse for bad work ever. I hope she's kind to you about this later. And congratulations! It wouldn't be Extra History without a bunch of flag issues. I'm glad y'all decided to tal kabout the nuance. That's important. I'm sure there were also some Welsh parliamentarians who voted . . . badly. :(
I'm so glad that this video came out when it did because I have an industrial revolution time period project in history and i choose Irish Immigration as my topic so now thanks to this video I won't put inaccurate information in my project
You guys should cover the War of 1812. It was the only war ever fought on Canadian soil, in recorded history and was one of the big factors that lead to Canadian Confederation. It's also the only time Washington D.C. was ever directly threatened by war: Americans burned Canada's government house, so British troops and Canadian militia burned the White House.
In the play "How the Irish got that way" by Frank McCourt, they list off the groups that contributed to the relief effort during the Irish Potato Famine; ----- The Choctow Indians: 30 barrels of corn ------The Jewish community of New York City: $ 1,000 dollars ------The free black community of Baltimore: 10 barrels of flour -------The Mexican legislature: $ 1,000 dollars There were others mentioned but I remember these ones.
Can we talk about or at least mention the aspect that emerging Social Drawinism in British upper classes' minds was a contributing factor in this entire mess?
Controlling who conducts the importation of goods is nearly as bad as controlling what goods may be imported. Furthermore, claiming that 'advocates of free markets often make exceptions' doesn't really mean anything. _Every_ ideology is brimming with hypocritical advocates, be it an economic ideology, a religion (or the lack thereof), or any other ideology. That excuse falls especially short in this case considering the issues the Irish faced weren't the product of free market policies, but the regulations that came from the exceptions made by hypocrites. The Irish potato famine remains an example of corporatism/mercantilism and the failings of unnecessary government regulation of the market.
Siege of Vienna was when Ottoman Muslims almost conquered Austria. This is why the shooter mentioned it. Anyway Austria was reinforced by Polish troops who drove the Ottomans back to Hungary and ended the siege.
I really want to live in a world where Trevelyan's policy towards aiding the poor was some weird quirk of history that no one knows about and not the proud policy of the current government...
In other new for podcasts, I highly recommend the Irish Passport as they have a couple of episodes about the famine and have a lot of other epsidoes regarding other things related to Ireland including the border and the how the language gained the status that it has now.
thank you for the comment about Christchurch. As a kiwi, it's good knowing the rest of the world finds it as... rupturing as we do. To all you who might reply to this: remember, the victims are trying to forgive and move on. They and most kiwis are preaching love, not hate, to overcome.
Recommended reading:
The Great Hunger, by Cecil Woodham-Smith
The Graves Are Walking: The Great Famine and the Saga of the Irish People, by John Kelly
Podcast: Irish History Podcast
Say hi to Rob's newest family member!
4:43 - what exactly *was* the blight?
7:35 - flags, flags, flags
9:20 - difference between "British" and "English"
10:26 - the psychology behind low-balling numbers
18:52 - we couldn't do an episode on the Battle of Mrs. McCormick's Cabbage Patch :(
22:57 - what's next on Extra History!
23:27 - Walpole fact!
Extra Credits awww you got yourself a little pink potato of your own.
Do about the battle of stalingrad
God bless Ireland
I'm surprised you guys glossed over the Fenian raids, there an important part of Canadian history and are really tied to the whole thing.
Your videos on potatoes were interrupted by a little potato.
Getting flags wrong is a meme for extra history at this point
Your daughter has fantastic comedic timing
Who’s daddy’s little blame-taker!? (Seriously though. Congrats) :D
Her name is Scapegoat. Congrats!
I look forward to her next guest appearance on Extra History.
@@17-MASY They spoke Irish. It's an actual separate language. Related to Gaelic.
Flags, the ever existing nemesis of Extra History!!
Fun fact: in the UK, Robert Peele lent his name to not one, but two slang words for police: "bobbies" and "peelers"
Why bobbies? 🤔
@@kreativepulp8760 "Bobbie" is a nickname for Robert
Oh, THAT'S where that comes from!
Peeler sound like nut
In Canada the peelers is where ladies of questionable std status dance for tips while "peeling" their clothes off. Funny how phrases change meaning over time and distance, eh?
"Hey, I totally screwed up, but here's a BABY!!!!"
It worked, man. It worked.
I am surprised you did not bring up the issue of Clone Propagation in the series. Growing potato plants from seed potatoes means that you are making clones and if you use potatoes from seed potatoes you can end up with fields, or multiple fields full of clones of the same plant. This means that if the original parent is vulnerable to a disease the entire crop is as well.
He did mention it. "Monoculture" means clone crops. It was a quick comment but it was there.
Same problem hitting the global banana crops at this moment.
@@eldorados_lost_searcher And the Gross Michael cultivar before them. Ever wonder why some banana flavours taste different than a real banana? It's not just the artificiality, it's that it was patterned after an older, sweeter variety that, while it still exists, can no longer be grown at commercial scales without inviting the blight that wrecked it before. I wonder what they'll replace the modern Cavendish with?
@@eldorados_lost_searcher The cloning situation is worse with bananas. You can still grow potatoes from seeds, many comercial banana strains might produce one seed for every ten million bananas.
@@eldorados_lost_searcher It is the second time this happend. Until the 1950s a different strain of bananas was used. It was killed of by the a variation of the current disease.
Welcome to the ranks of fatherhood
Seconded! Congratulations!
Congratulations on your new baby! The baby looks very healthy so keep watch against changelings. Those Irish fairies can be devious. :) And thanks for all your hard work on top of having to take care of a new baby. Despite whatever mistakes have been found, you did a great job! Good luck with everything!
Congrats on the little one and on the series. Growing up in Ireland and with a grandmother born only a few generations after the famine, who was a historian and from a farming community which would have held very personal memories of the events, I really appreciate that you managed to make me aware of aspects I hadn't considered before.
Also, I totally get that you can't get everything right while trying to summarize such a complex series of events, decisions, policies etc. into several TH-cam videos, all while welcoming a new life into the world, so congrats again on both. Looking forward the upcoming episodes.
Love you, Man!
You're so unassuming, no subconscious expression of vanity.
You're so much immersed into the subject when you talk.
God Bless your daughter!
See the problem with your interpretation is that you don't get that, at the time, the Irish had been proven to be "Naturally Inferior" because we were members of the Celtic races in comparison to the... let's say Supreme Race of the Anglo-Saxons. There is a reason they used terms like "The White Chimpanzee" to describe my ancestors. It was considered inevitable that we would/*should* be driven to extinction to free up land and resources for our betters. This is one of those times where people really need to stop this both sides stuff, sometimes people are just as bad as their actions sound.
That's a cute little spud you got there!
So... You just keep a blame baby under the desk?
You don't?
@@Dragonite_Knight I was just asking if he did too...
It’s OK everyone keeps the blame baby under there desk
But blame baby is so adorable~!
@@robertwalpole360
Keep quiet, before we start blaming you for everything again!
regarding the Irish population not rebounding post famine, birth rates have also seriously dropped as you can imagine and Ireland is much less religious now. my great grandmother (daughter of a famine survivor) had 20 kids, her daughter had five, my mother had two (and emigrated as well). sooo famine, immigration and changing family sizes had a real impact (birth control is amazing!)
Not below replacement levels though. Even today Irish women have a healthy average of 2.1 children. The massive drop in population post famine is explained by high mortality/emigration. Birth rates are a red herring.
Too cute. Blessings to the baby. Your videos are fantastic. Don't worry about inaccuracies due to family emergency. We understand and are happy to sit through the corrections. 🤗
Where Peel and police are concerned you should not ignore the fact that Peel had already been instrumental in the reform of the Dublin police and the creation of the Dublin Metropolitan Police in 1814 as well as the creation of the forerunners of the Royal Irish Constabulary when he was Chief Secretary of Ireland. Part of the paralysing misery of Ireland at the time was the creation of a system of informers thereby, who received the confiscated assets of the accused, a fine racket which persisted until the British were finally turfed out.
This was a good series. I don't know, maybe it's too recent, but I'd like to see them take on the Troubles sometime.
The Troubles may be coming back if Brexit causes a hard border in Ireland.
Yes, I would be interested in that, too.
I grew up in the 1980s along the Monaghan/South Armagh border. My wife still disbelieves some of the things I’ve mentioned in passing over the years. Brexit terrifies me. It’s economic suicide for the UK, but also going to hit us very hard financially. Politically there are obvious fears about division post Brexit.
Congratulations on the new baby.
I love the fact that you do stories that people don't even know existed. So I'm looking forward to the new stories coming out they all sound awesome.
Nothing can ever recompense what the saxons did
True. But recognizing their evil would be a good start.
Thomas Francis Meagher - young Irelander, transported to Tasmania, escaped, emigrated to the US, became a brigadier general in the US Army during the Civil War.
There is a series of crime novels about Sir John Fielding, by Bruce Alexander.
I hope the siege of Vienna mentions croissants.
11:30: ...Were they trying to invent instant mashed potatoes?
Maybe you guys can someday cover the great leap forward and aftermath and the aftermath of its aftermath (the cultural revolution)? I always find that particular chain of events fascinating.
3:35 The Irish Population only started to really recover after WW2. Even then, the population took hits during economic downturns in the 50’s and 60’s
@FraktalFace Lots fought for the British army in WW2 too.
Walsh 90 they fought as an Irish division, so to avoid being integrated as British, so not really, unless you were unionist which are more British than Irish.
If your particular area of interest is the professionalization of English law enforcement, have you considered doing an Extra Fantasy about all the law enforcement jokes in Discworld that we in America don't get? Because some of those people you mentioned in the Walpole connection sound suspiciously like they're from Ankh-Morpok.
Thanks for all yall do. im a amateur history buff ive always loved almost every bit of history from the wars to the people just trying to live there day to day lives. thank u for bringing history to any ones who wishes to learn more
Really excited that France is getting a full series with Joan of Arc. Also with that aside about mountaineering, I would LOVE a series on some of those early Everest expeditions. Could throw in some nice lore about the mountain from the Sherpa. I love the episodes focused on more civilian driven event, as well as social movements. Oh and a series on law enforcement and crime in 19th century London would be AMAZING!!
Wait, y'all are doing the Siege of Vienna?
*Winged Hussars by Sabaton blares in the background*
Y'all...? Give me a break...
MikeyPaper a southerner does as southerners do. 🤷♂️
It's official, the Sabaton fans are in before the series started.
Was glad to see this video come out, I have always been a huge fan of you and was so sad to see how many facts you got wrong and how many points you didn't expand on. Please keep it up would love to see more irish stories
If you do a series on mountaineering, you can tie it back to this series by discussing the Stuck-Karstens Expedition to the top of Denali. The youngest of the climbers and the first man to the summit was the son of a survivor of the Irish potato famine, and the man credited with unlocking the Alaska-Yukon gold rush, Arthur Harper. Also useful if you want to do a series on the Yukon gold rush. You can make it a trilogy!
I have a question, are you guys ever gonna do a series about how the Nazi's came to power? Not to be pro-Nazi or anything just curious!
A more interesting video would be the Weimar Republic in general, the various socialist & fascist paramilitaries it had, and its early advances in LGBT medicine
@@moritamikamikara3879 Depending on where you are, at least EC would give a better coverage of the ramp-up. I know in my history class it was covered like "and then Hitler just *appeared* one day, and everyone was shocked. Shocked I say! And then we bombed them until he killed himself. This is the entirety of the whole story. Do not read up on it. Now let's microfocus on specific battles because that's the important part of wars."
TED-Ed has a great video on it if you’re looking for stuff about that
There is plenty out there already about that i think people prefer more obscure history
@@patrickmcnelis1372 like what?
a series about the Northern Crusades would be awesome.
OMG! Congratulations, Rob!
Huh, I really admire how seriously you take your role as a producer of this kind of content. I think it's so tempting for historians to editorialize, even if just for entertainment value, because if power corrupts, the telling of history is where we can all be the victor and set the future in motion some way we'd prefer. It's rampant in the schools and I wish we lived by a philosophy more often as a society. Thanks for taking the time to show all your thinking and making probably one of the best behind the scenes / everything I always hope for in a behind the scenes. Top quality. I haven't even scene the series actually... ha. I was searching for the history of cabbage and I landed here first. Will start immediately to familiarize myself with this channel :3
I've gotta start bringing a newborn with me to meetings to cover for delayed projects
I do think it would be nice to go into more details about the fammine roads
Something mentioned in college economic history was that through clearing the serfs from the land, the owners could raise sheep instead. The mills, weaving Irish wool, made more money for the land owners than the little farmers' plots did.
Possible subject: Flanders Field during WWI. So many died in the mud.
I thought "A Modest Proposal" was THE book on the famine.
D Push what’s more, there’s a baby in the video. Are you thinking what I’m thinking?
@@mrbenoit5018
Well Swid was irish
It's sad that book was written a century before the famine happened. Really says something about the English attitude towards Ireland.
I see you had your own little potato
Oliver Cromwell died in 1658. He was not even alive when the Victorian era began. He did however cause a lot of deaths in Ireland, mostly from famine bc of destroyed crops. He also killed a lot of English ppl in the English civil war, including the King.
I mean, that person wasn't wrong that distance, and the decrease in passion 'can' lead to more accurate and nuanced assessment that leads to better solutions. It can also, of course, lead to people avoiding the truth. But if you make an active attempt at both being empathetic in action, but calm and observant in assessment, you really get the best combination. Passion just clouds judgement, honestly, and it's best to avoid it if you can also try and be impartial and rational about things. Psychopaths who have decided to be altruistic really are the best people to put in office.
Well first off Congratulations on the Baby! And as always love the work you guys do! Thank you guys!
"this is layered"
That reality is beyond most people.
Have you read Friedrich Engels "The Condition of the working class in England" (1845), specifically what he wrote about the Irish? The modern English working class has significant Irish descent, just as the Irish ruling class has always had significant Anglo-Irish and Anglo-Norman roots. The wormhole runs deep on this one.
Thank you for considering the Christchurch shooting. Mass shootings here in New Zealand are exceptionally rare. It has shaken all of us. Congrats on the new baby too. Could you consider some episodes on the NZ Land Wars?
Congratulations on the new family member.
One thing I noted was that they were called "American Wakes" in Ireland. But over here, they tend to be called "Irish Wakes"... Depends on who is telling the tale... Those who stayed telling their tales vs the ones who survived to make it here telling theirs...
>seige of Vienna next
The winged hussars approach
Hello Extra Credits. I have been waiting for a chance to bring this up. One of the my pet peeves is when Britain and England are used interchangeably. As a result, whenever I hear it, I tend to remember it. Let me say that as far as I can recall, this never happened in this series. Not once. No mention of the English parliament, army, or navy. No mention of English soldiers. All ceased to exist upon the acts of Union in 1707. People, parliament or government "in England" gets a pass as that is a place and that is where they were. EC, you get a very rare 10/10 in this regard.
Robert Peel is why one Victorian slang word for police officers is Peelers.
Bobbies.
@@mirzaahmed6589 That's another slang word for police officers, I don't know the origin of that one. There's also coppers, and the verb coppering to refer to police work
@@AbsolXGuardian That's also attributable to Sir Robert:
"Robert Peel’s system was a success, and by the mid-19th century large American cities had created similar police forces. In London, the policemen were so identified with the politician who created them that they were referred to as “Peelers” or-more memorably-“Bobbies,” after the popular nickname for Robert."
www.history.com/news/why-are-british-police-officers-called-bobbies
AbsolX Guardian : many badges of officers/constables were made of copper.
It is something I have heard was bad , but it is not top of the history list in the Netherlands. I appreciate your thoroughness.
I'm disappointed that they didn't acknowledge their map mistake in episode 4 where they incorrectly labelled the "Minnesota Territory" as "Minessota Territory"
The Irish history podcast is unreal. The blindboy podcast is a good one for Irish history and culture too
I see Trevelyan as pretty similar to Lysenko. I think both genuinely believed the pseudoscience they were peddling, but ultimately they only did what they did because they didn’t care about the lives of the people they were harming
Excellent series. Congratulations on the baby. One beautiful potato!
a good short series could be the 1916 rising
Life Scree Yeah Being Irish myself i’d like to see that. Good Suggestion!
Treaty and Civil War follows right after, those years are so packed.
Michael Collins or Charles Stewart Parnell would be nice.
Yeetmoid Dankerson you should watch John D. Ruddy.
Also the war of independence and the civil war.
Queen Bazinga? You got ta be kiddin' me.
YES! GRITTY! I love seeing him in things.
Enjoyed the talk about the Irish in the US Civil War, but you didn't mention Patrick Cleburne in that context. He was probably the most talented division commander on either side, but was denied promotion in the Confederate Army because he advocated freeing slaves to fight for the South. He comes up a lot in alternate historical context discussion. Favorite story, one of the Union Irish Commanders asked him under a flag of truce if after the war was over he'd help him invade Canada. He turned him down.
Thank you from your irish viewers!
Another great episode of correcting the record.
12:55 - Huh, that sounds like the reasoning behind the Jones Act, which has gotten in the way of Puerto Rico's recovery since the 2017 hurricane.
I'd love to see EC take on mountaineering/hiking/backpacking (especially long distance), and the like
7:35. Also, your typical farmer's diet in England at the time would have been heavy on the bread and cheese. Not terrible, mind, but missing a few nutrients, like vitamin C. The Irish would have had some from the potato and supplemented with the occasional rasher of bacon for fats and milk on a good day. (Sometimes even cabbage was available.)
I love me some Lies.
Cutest excuse for bad work ever. I hope she's kind to you about this later. And congratulations!
It wouldn't be Extra History without a bunch of flag issues.
I'm glad y'all decided to tal kabout the nuance. That's important. I'm sure there were also some Welsh parliamentarians who voted . . . badly. :(
Dagger John is such a BALLER nickname
I'm so glad that this video came out when it did because I have an industrial revolution time period project in history and i choose Irish Immigration as my topic so now thanks to this video I won't put inaccurate information in my project
You guys should cover the War of 1812. It was the only war ever fought on Canadian soil, in recorded history and was one of the big factors that lead to Canadian Confederation. It's also the only time Washington D.C. was ever directly threatened by war: Americans burned Canada's government house, so British troops and Canadian militia burned the White House.
Congratulations on the baby!
Tim pat coogan “the famine plot”great book
In the play "How the Irish got that way" by Frank McCourt, they list off the groups that contributed to the relief effort during the Irish Potato Famine;
----- The Choctow Indians: 30 barrels of corn
------The Jewish community of New York City: $ 1,000 dollars
------The free black community of Baltimore: 10 barrels of flour
-------The Mexican legislature: $ 1,000 dollars
There were others mentioned but I remember these ones.
Thank you for your coverage of this big and relatively recent scar on the Irish psyche. Not as big as the troubles but that's too recent.
the 1683 battle of Vienna? or the 1529 siege of Vienna, im assuming not the 1485 siege of vienna?
Also bobbies, from Robert.
1945 battle for Vienna
Can we talk about or at least mention the aspect that emerging Social Drawinism in British upper classes' minds was a contributing factor in this entire mess?
Really passive aggressively flexing on the 1850's Irishmen with those potatoes. Power move right there.
>Lies about the Irish potato famine
That the British were innocent
GO ON HOME BRITISH SOLDIERS
Controlling who conducts the importation of goods is nearly as bad as controlling what goods may be imported. Furthermore, claiming that 'advocates of free markets often make exceptions' doesn't really mean anything. _Every_ ideology is brimming with hypocritical advocates, be it an economic ideology, a religion (or the lack thereof), or any other ideology. That excuse falls especially short in this case considering the issues the Irish faced weren't the product of free market policies, but the regulations that came from the exceptions made by hypocrites. The Irish potato famine remains an example of corporatism/mercantilism and the failings of unnecessary government regulation of the market.
Plz do a series on Amir Timur !!! Love this show btw
Congrats, Rob!
Can't wait for an episode on the Siege of Güns :)
Congrats on the little baby girl. So cute!
Congratulations with your little disturbance!
Looking forward to how you guys can explain how or why the Christchurch shooter mentioned the Siege of Vienna.
Siege of Vienna was when Ottoman Muslims almost conquered Austria. This is why the shooter mentioned it. Anyway Austria was reinforced by Polish troops who drove the Ottomans back to Hungary and ended the siege.
Congrats!
John Fielding is Daredevil
Jonathan Wild is Kingpin
Just noticed that, based on their descriptions.
Does putting the baby into the video make her completely tax deductible?
Do the Triple Alliance War
There was a famine in the 1880’s which made my clannad move to Glasgow
Whoo! Congrats Rob!
Well, at least you didn't get the Irish and Ivory coast flags mixed up
And we still haven't seen any dragons on flags!
I really want to live in a world where Trevelyan's policy towards aiding the poor was some weird quirk of history that no one knows about and not the proud policy of the current government...
awww. i love your little potato there.
Time to check the fridge to see if I have any potatoes
So... England essentially had it’s own Daredevil AND Kingpin at the time?
So, when do we get the early-19th-century Marvel Elseworld based on these guys?
Congratulations!!!
I should draw potatoes walking on 4 legs now. It looks so adorable!
In other new for podcasts, I highly recommend the Irish Passport as they have a couple of episodes about the famine and have a lot of other epsidoes regarding other things related to Ireland including the border and the how the language gained the status that it has now.
thank you for the comment about Christchurch. As a kiwi, it's good knowing the rest of the world finds it as... rupturing as we do.
To all you who might reply to this: remember, the victims are trying to forgive and move on. They and most kiwis are preaching love, not hate, to overcome.
I love your baby's look of 'what the hell is all this shit' at the end of it's cameo.
I cringed when I saw the potatoes on the desk.