7:08 - Rob learns he has a linguistic tic about being able to correctly distinguish "ancestor" and "descendant" 17:10 - Olga of Kiev scared Matt to death... really though... 25:23 - Walpole Connection 28:05 - what's next on Extra History Some other works to check out: The Sea Wolves: A History of the Vikings, by Lars Brownworth / The Vikings, by Else Roesdahl / Podcast: Norse by Northwest
ftr she IS directly related. rolo to william to richard to robert (to) william (to) henry matilda henri john henry edward edward edward john john john margeret henry margeret james mary james sofia elizabeth george george fredrick-louis george edward victoria edward george george and the queen.
"How do you deal with failure" This is how. You stand up for it, you correct it, you move on. And it takes guts to do it, admitting that you messed up is never fun. In enjoy your history series particularly and tip my hat to you! :)
Don't even try to pronounce Gaelic. There's 3-4 dialects, none of which agree on anything. It's like the Irish designed their language to start fights over. Actually. That makes too much sense.
Three major dialects, Ulster, Connacht, and Munster. Not a single one can agree on anything important, and everyone agrees the other two are talking with a potato in their mouth, and their heads in a cows ass.
As an Irishman I really appreciate your sensitivity around the "British Isles" term, and I also appreciate your efforts in the famine videos. You seem to me to have a genuine sense of how historic events have a modern context. Keep up the good work. Thanks again.
The wine/vine land natives were probably the Beothok. The beothok were the know aboriginal group in that area until the mi'kmaq migrated to Newfoundland from the other maritime provinces. The Beothok were eventually (and sadly) all killed but some sources say those who survied assimilated in the mi'kmaq bands.
Could you PLEASE do The Battle of Pont Saint-Louis? The incredible tale of how 9 french soldiers took stand against 5000 italian soldiers. Love your work!
I love your extra history a lot. It really inspire me to include a history into my story. I want to make a request. Could you make one about The Khmer Rouge or Pol Pot, the period of tragedy in Cambodia. I would be happy to have our Cambodian history talked about, espically with my family of the old generation having experience these events. It would make my day for Cambodian history be talked abput
FlakeSE Finland owned a part of IT allrwady. Finlands part was the highest mountain, but IT was in the middle of an uphill climb. Norway just wanted to give them the rest of the mountain, so they would have an actual highest mountain.
@@yaldabaoth2 You need to look up what Chaotic Evil means. As she may have done acts of evil. Yet she was rather justified in those dealings. As she was punishing her Husband's murder after all. Even making a statement to all others that she was not to be fucked with. Later she did get Baptized and became Christian and did attempt to convert her Son but failed. Yet her Grandson did and he later became rather famous in his own way. As Chaotic Evil cares little for any life. Does not care for rules or sanity. Kills for the pure pleasure of killing or making other suffers for their amusement. She was not Chaotic Evil. At least Lawful Good/Neutral/Evil...as she did keep order and was following to some degree how to punish those who did wrong. She did go forth and do good.
It'd be rather spontaneous for the World of Greyhawk to suddenly have _another_ Earth native become a deity, but then again Earth and Oerth _are_ considered parallel to each other (as opposed to Eberron, Toril/The Forgotten Realms, or Krynn/Dragonlance which were intended to be distinct).
The verbal issue with descendant and ancestor is not uncommon, even showed up in the second Harry Potter book, managed to get through the editors even, so don't be too embarrassed. EDIT: Also, calling Cyrillic Byzantine is not strictly speaking inaccurate, due to it being named after and with the aid of a Byzantine priest. EDIT2: The Viking Rus did establish a precedent and imported a standard which, although it ultimately became fully assimilated and incorporated into local Slavic culture, influenced everything that came after. The flounders of a society have an impact on everything that follows them, however little the latter portions ressemble the earlier. Modern American culture bears almost no resemblance to that of England in the 15-1700s, but are indisputably derived from and influenced by. EDIT3: The Thule (TOO-lee) weren't the first inhabitants of Greenland, at least if we take their oral history as a viable if not completely accurate source. When they migrated there they had several conflicts with another people who already lived there, usually assumed to be the Dorset. The Dorset did indeed primarily inhabit the northern parts of Greenland, but the Norse had several settlements along the west coast almost to the northwestern tip of the island, primarily for harvesting walrus, which didn't usually live as far south as the Western,, Central, or Eastern settlements.
Please do a history on the reign of ezana, the king of Aksum who converted to christianity and established the oldest independant christian empire in africa
It'd be cool, and also show that there was a surprisingly long amount of time from the stock market crash and the true start of the Great Depression for most Americans.
If you're doing the potato famine there is a really good book called "the blood that never dried" with a chapter on it that gives some really good explanation and, if I remember correctly, some good individual stories that would suit your narrative style really well. It's also just a good book about the abusive aspect of the British Empire.
From what I've read spears were the main weapon with shields. Axes and other arms were secondary. There are also Dane axes which are long poled axes which some used.
I don't usually comment on TH-cam videos regarding the national history of the balcan states but since I value the series and I consider Extra credits as a credible source of information (knowing that I write below a video disclaming that) I want to ask you about your resources. Around 13:00 you said that Cyrillic originated from Bulgaria. Can you please reference that since it's a touchy subject and I'd like to know your sources for this and possibly future videos on the subject and region. P. S. You're doing an amazing job and I'm loving the series.
It is pretty certain that Ivar the boneless, king of Dublin from 857 to 873, is the same Ivar that led The Great Heathen army which invaded england in 865. Dublin was, at the time, probably the most important viking town/city in western Europe and was often used as a springboard to invade other parts of Europe. In the Irish annals, where Ivar is referred to as Ímair, Ímair died in 873, as does Ivar the boneless who is said to have died in Dublin. Too many coincidences here to be dismissed. No doubt about it that Ivar the boneless and Ímair are one and the same.
Hey all of you over there working on this content. There is a high chance that you wont see this but, I just want you all to know your channel is highly entertaining, and has had a large impact on my life I love your stories not just the history but also all the content you produce cheers yall while I finish my beer and send you the love you all deserve. Take car stay safe and keep up the great work.
You also again touched on a very touchy subject. Who developed the Cyrillic system is currently contested between Greece, Bulgaria and fYRoM (who just claim all Bulgarian history of the period).
I just realized something, you guys might have a blast doing an episode about the failed Punitive Expedition. It has Extra History written all over it, gunfighters, famous figures and a bunch of wacky incidents that should fall into the category of: That doesn't sound right!
Some other good historical fiction to read is the The Last Kingdom (The Saxon Chronicles Series) by Bernard Cornwell. He tells a good historical account of the Alfred the Great time period with the right amount of fiction. Cornwell draws you into the history with his storytelling.
Do a series on Hernando de Soto, the failed Conquistador of the southern US and the mound building Kingdoms of the Mississippi. American pyramids are so cool!
sion8 Cahokia was the largest! But there were other large city states and chiefdoms recorded by De Soto and his party. De Soto participated in the conquest of Peru and was allowed to explore Florida and the rest of the South in search of gold for Spain. He traveled through inland Georgia and the Carolinas and then west to the Mississippi, crossing the borders of many chiefdoms, all mound builders. The Indian chief Tuscaloosa’s defeat at Mabila is still one of the bloodiest battles on American soil. De Soto died in the wilderness. The chiefdoms he recorded vanished by the time of the British 100 years later, possibly because of European diseases he left behind. His expedition may also be responsible for wild boars in North America.
@@ezrapark9992 Even if the people disappeared, I haven't heard of mound pyramids in Northern America outside of Cahokia. I mean there were large settlements in today's New England but they were build of wood and hides, but those mounds would still exists today and would be highly talked about just like Cahokia and the Maya and Aztec pyramids.
sion8 The mounds were smaller than Cahokia. Many of the mounds are lost and are assumed to be built over. Others are turned into little state parks. Unfortunately there is not a lot to see. They are not remembered like the Aztecs because they were not an Empire and collapsed rather easily, but this culture was widespread. The Natchez were the last to survive into the colonial era and their society was distinct from other Indian groups.
Can you please do one of this about 1) The Philippine Conquered by Spaniard 2) The Gupta Empire If you can do these, then I am so glad and thankful for you for helping me with my exams
But the famous thing about the three kingdoms isn't even correct history. Battle of Chibi, mostly made up. Guanyu kills 6 generals? Didn't happen. Empty fort strategy? Probably fabricated for a good read. Thing is, Three kingdoms would fit well for a literature series rather than a history one.
Was just about to write that Dublin also had a settlement and in fact more importantly a castle before the Vikings founded the city. Damn lies beat me to it (but forgot the castle)
Spears. Freaking spears were pretty much the only main weapon anybody used back then. Especially by non professional troops. They were cheap, easy to use and good for protecting your mates with. Axes (especially two handed ones) and swords were weapons for the semi professional house-karls and nobles.
Hi Extra History, I have a demand, can you do a video about the Battle of Wadi al Makhazin. I know what happened in it but i want you to share it with the other subscribers. Continue what you're doing it's perfect and i love it. And thanks you :)
Britain refers to the main island that England, Scotland, and Wales are on. England is just England: take Britain, and subtract the north (Scotland) and the central west (Wales). There's also the "United Kingdom", which is short for "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", which is the actual nation state. It consists of the island of Britain as well as Northern Ireland. Then there's the "British Isles" which is controversial in Ireland (as mentioned in this video), but for rather dumb reasons (basically conflating objective geography with the complex historical geopolitics of the British Isles). As a matter of sheer geography, it consists of the islands of Britain, Ireland, and many other smaller islands in the region.
1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 british includes all from great britain islands it can be scottish irish welsh or english people but english is people that make the uk with welsh and scottish
Also, an Atatürk series would be good (there's a great documentary by a journalist called Can Dündar to start you off). Im an English teacher in Turkey and I always recommend this channel because you are fascinating and provide good subtitles. Good work folks!
It's a common trait to nickname prominent people with sarcastic tags. During the Roman republic, a prominent son of the gens (i.e.clan) Julia, one Gaius, was losing his hair at a young age. So, of course, he ended up with a cognomen that meant "curly". So every title that came from that cognomen, including the German and Russian imperial types, could easily be a Stooge. And the proper pronunciation of said cognomen pretty much matches the German Kaiser (Caesar).
10:03: I wouldn't phrase it that way, it is a direct line just not a direct line through every single monarch of Britain. Several lines, like the tudor's and the stuarts had 100 year leaps back in time to their first monarch to then trace down and fine the next Monarch. Victoria was George III's granddaughter bypassing the elder sons of George III who failed to produce live/legitimate heirs before dying. George 1 was the grandson of James I's daughter Elizabeth. James I was was a double descendant from Henry VII and Elizabeth of York, who in turn was a double descendant from Edward III. Edward III was a direct descendant of Henry II and Henry II was through his mother a descendant of Rollo The Walker.
Thank you for mentioning the fact that some of these stories are only cool or funny because of the immense temporal gap that prevents us from really contextualizing the awful shit people did back then properly. It's a common problem that's way too easy to fall into.
I read somewhere that halfdan (often called hvitserk or white shirt) another son of Ragnar is actually who started the rus. It's doubtful. But still a cool thought
Viking in Old Norse is a noun, full stop, not a verb. And the -r in Old Norse is a grammatical ending used for masculine nouns in the nominative singular case (it has the same origin as the -us ending in many Latin masculine nouns). It was not used to convert a verb into a noun to describe a person doing that verb, it just looks that way because it's similar to the -er suffix in English and in modern Danish and most Norwegian dialects, but they are not related. The English/Norwegian/Danish -er suffix would have been -ari in Old Norse, like kaupari, "buyer", from the verb kaupa, "to buy" (identical to modern Icelandic, and almost identical to -are in modern Swedish). It's still -ari in modern Icelandic, and -are in modern Swedish.
so, quick question, what happened to James? Not that I have a problem with Rob, he does a really solid job, just wondering why James doesn't do this anymore. Good episode and special props to you guys for doing this, most people don't tend to acknowledge that not only do they make mistakes, but there is a lot about history that's somewhat open to interpretation either due to the sources (or lack thereof) available or the political leanings of the time or sources themselves (people are less likely to write things that cast the crown in a bad light if they're likely to get beheaded or even if the work is simply being commissioned by said king, which colors sources from that time)
On this service history is too often covered by only talking about the great wars and battles though these were just the tiniest part of the whole history. Good to see something done that isn’t only about how war but also how trade and travel and exchange between people could influence the world to a much greater degree.
People are very sure about the linguistics, we have quite a lot of written material and Icelandic mirrors our knowledge so closely that we know quite a lot about old Norse pronunciation and grammar. To go Víking, He is a Víkingr. Dorset culture preceded Thule in Greenland and was only in the far north, Thule/proto-Inuit came later after Norse settlement with a different culture and hunting strategies and spread further south. That's my understanding but it's based on a book I read a while ago so I'm not totally sure that's what scholars think today.
Imhair doesn't not sound like Emir or Imir btw. H does not produce it's own sound in Gaelic, it makes an adjacent consonant have a different sound, to kinda make up for sounds that are not normally in Gaelic. Bean sidhe is pronounced banshee, as cait sith is pronounced caht shee (sith is the Scottish version, sidhe is Irish).
28:37 first mistake , Gaelic is the language family not the language , it can be called Irish Gaelic but its normally just called Irish Also just a few tips : Bh=v , ch=obstructed h thing , dh=y th=h If something is preceded by an , don't pronounce the second letter ( or third if the first two are bh )
Hi there! Could you please do a feature on the Iolaire disaster, which has its centennial anniversary just coming up... It's a largely forgotten tragedy, even to most people in Scotland... But it's quite the tale, and one that needs telling IMO.
Correction; beer and ale were different things during the viking age. My understanding is that ale was made with honey and was essentially a cheap version of mead wheras beer developed in Egypt as medicine. So they likely did not drink a lot of mead, but likely a lot of ale. I do not know when beer moved in but I do know that the church was associated with it.
Nope, ale and beer have always been pretty much the same thing. In fact the recipes we get from Egypt are technically an ale as they contain no hops. If it has honey whatsoever, it can be called mead. As the term 'mead' literally just refers to the sweetening of honey and use of flowers. Hence, 'meadows"
As a dane myself, the only real peeve I had with the Viking Expansion videos is that you repeatedly refer to Longships and other ships of the period, like Knarrs, as flat-bottomed ships; they aren't. They're round-bottomed. And you refer to the construction method of clinker ships, so you must have looked into it a bit. It's really a very small thing.
Vinland translated to English is Wineland, but, it could be Vinland as "Winning Land" in English, tho it dose not sound likely... i think more it is Wineland just as Greenland would attract more ppl.
ghui black That’s wrong. The last one of Muscovite(!) Rurikids has died in the 16th century. There are multiple proven descendants of the Rurikovich dynasty who are still around. Some even reached high positions under the Romanovs (Lobanov-Rostovsky was minister of foreign affairs, for instance).
@@Azaghal1988 Not really, with the most generous calculations he would have about 25-30 million descendants in total, but only if there wasn't any inbreeding and no lineages died out, so a more realistic estimate would be about 50-100,000 living descendants.
@@Aoderic Now I'm curious about those estimates, because I was convinced that every human today descends from almost everyone from 1000years ago. It's just math, as long as people have more than 1 child in average the number of descendants explodes quickly (but of course you need more than 2 for the overall population to grow so the effect is huge). And one person traveling every now and then is enough to spread the lineage.
@@ghislainbugnicourt3709 Well when people do blind math the get those enormous numbers. So they may say that a generation on average 25 years, so in a 1000 years there would be 40 generations, and that is kind of okay. Then they say that every mother gets on average 3-4 kids historically, and that's also kind of okay. But then this is were it goes wrong, they say 3.5^40, and then you'll get an insane number like 5.7 sextillion, and so they conclude that everybody must be descended from that person a 1000 years ago. But they fail to understand, that it isn't blind math. Since they fail to take into account, that their calculation assumes several wrong things: 1. that no child ever dies in infancy, 2. that no man or woman ever live life childless, 3. that no one ever have children with a cousin even to the x removed, i.e. none of the millions of people in their calculation ever meets and have children with any of the other millions. When we then talk of royals, we have the great benefit, of quite detailed ledgers of lineages. So we know quite well how many kids any of the kings had, and we know how many kids his kids had, and it turns out that many of those kids died in infancy, quite few died childless, and an appalling amount married cousins and second cousins etc. All of those factors reduce the final amounts drastically.
I've heard it once being called the “North Atlantic Islands”, but I find it dumb. British Isles is fine, the Gulf of Mexico isn't Mexico's because it's named that way.
Rollo is my 34 times great grandfather on my grandmother's side. No bullshit! My callsign is my real name in the old Norse. Got it the old way too, (you could say grandma was old fashioned she demanded to be addressed in the old speak as Amma still means grandmother but what are ya ta do?) at my "Rite of Ausa Vatni and Nafnfesti" (Norse naming ceremony). I still have my gift as well a wolf skin Sark (shirt) of honor our class of old the Berserkers called "Ulfhedinn" (the whole group)only 1 of the Ulfhedinn is an "Ulfhednar" But those are other stories.
Charles II the Bald got his name because he shaved his head as a sign of submission to the Church when he assisted the consacration of an abbey by Pope John VIII. It was the custom for frankish kings to keep their hair long, so that act stunned his people. Charles III the Simple means "the Straightforward". The word's meaning changed. His father was King Louis II the Stammerer... I've read somewhere that in the beginning, kings did not have numbers. So people gave them these nicknames to know of which Charles or Louis they were talking about. That's also why England has an Edward the Elder and an Edward the Confessor before they get an Edward I Longshanks. English kings' nicknames were not bad either...
25:27 Well you see, Walpole is actually a direct descendant of William the Conquerer, so by extension, Rollo the Walker! By the way, this was a joke, don't take it seriously.
7:08 - Rob learns he has a linguistic tic about being able to correctly distinguish "ancestor" and "descendant"
17:10 - Olga of Kiev scared Matt to death...
really though...
25:23 - Walpole Connection
28:05 - what's next on Extra History
Some other works to check out: The Sea Wolves: A History of the Vikings, by Lars Brownworth / The Vikings, by Else Roesdahl / Podcast: Norse by Northwest
This is useful. Please keep doing timestamps
how can you be indirectly related. either you are descended from them or you are not.
ftr she IS directly related. rolo to william to richard to robert (to) william (to) henry matilda henri john henry edward edward edward john john john margeret henry margeret james mary james sofia elizabeth george george fredrick-louis george edward victoria edward george george and the queen.
Did you mean Icelandic sagas instead of finland sagas, Because penguin classics also does an English version of the pros edda. a must for viking fans!
Could you please put links to the things you recommend in the first few minutes?
"How do you deal with failure"
This is how. You stand up for it, you correct it, you move on. And it takes guts to do it, admitting that you messed up is never fun.
In enjoy your history series particularly and tip my hat to you! :)
Don't even try to pronounce Gaelic. There's 3-4 dialects, none of which agree on anything. It's like the Irish designed their language to start fights over.
Actually. That makes too much sense.
Thats Ireland!
Three major dialects, Ulster, Connacht, and Munster. Not a single one can agree on anything important, and everyone agrees the other two are talking with a potato in their mouth, and their heads in a cows ass.
As an Irishman I really appreciate your sensitivity around the "British Isles" term, and I also appreciate your efforts in the famine videos. You seem to me to have a genuine sense of how historic events have a modern context. Keep up the good work. Thanks again.
And now i kinda want an entire series of Oddly Nicknamed French Monarchy.
The wine/vine land natives were probably the Beothok. The beothok were the know aboriginal group in that area until the mi'kmaq migrated to Newfoundland from the other maritime provinces. The Beothok were eventually (and sadly) all killed but some sources say those who survied assimilated in the mi'kmaq bands.
Episode 1 was fantastic guys. More episodes of that ilk would be most welcome and, i'm sure, well received.
Could you PLEASE do The Battle of Pont Saint-Louis? The incredible tale of how 9 french soldiers took stand against 5000 italian soldiers. Love your work!
Im always impressed by how ready you guys are to admit mistakes. I want you to know I appreciate your honesty.
I love your extra history a lot. It really inspire me to include a history into my story.
I want to make a request. Could you make one about The Khmer Rouge or Pol Pot, the period of tragedy in Cambodia. I would be happy to have our Cambodian history talked about, espically with my family of the old generation having experience these events. It would make my day for Cambodian history be talked abput
4:55 reason for population density in Norway = scarcity of cultivatable land= too many mountains.
Yeah, so many they actually tried to pawn one off to Finland a while back.
FlakeSE Finland owned a part of IT allrwady. Finlands part was the highest mountain, but IT was in the middle of an uphill climb. Norway just wanted to give them the rest of the mountain, so they would have an actual highest mountain.
@Carlos Saraiva Wooosh... BTW they didn't because their constitution would not allow ceding territory to a foreign power.
@Carlos Saraiva their tallest Mountain was and still is more than a kilometer tall.
8:48 "It could have been another guy named Ragnar"
Oh, there once was a hero named Ragnar the Red...
skyrim
*Writes down for D&D group to have a cleric that is a follower of Saint Olga* What? Cuthbert is a God in D&D why not Olga of Kiev?
Chaotic Evil for sure
Pull in St Christopher too, he's a 12ft tall werewolf.
@@yaldabaoth2 You need to look up what Chaotic Evil means. As she may have done acts of evil. Yet she was rather justified in those dealings. As she was punishing her Husband's murder after all. Even making a statement to all others that she was not to be fucked with. Later she did get Baptized and became Christian and did attempt to convert her Son but failed. Yet her Grandson did and he later became rather famous in his own way.
As Chaotic Evil cares little for any life. Does not care for rules or sanity. Kills for the pure pleasure of killing or making other suffers for their amusement. She was not Chaotic Evil. At least Lawful Good/Neutral/Evil...as she did keep order and was following to some degree how to punish those who did wrong. She did go forth and do good.
@@FistoftheSnackBar Further looking. Well, he is the Saint of Trailers. I can understand that.
It'd be rather spontaneous for the World of Greyhawk to suddenly have _another_ Earth native become a deity, but then again Earth and Oerth _are_ considered parallel to each other (as opposed to Eberron, Toril/The Forgotten Realms, or Krynn/Dragonlance which were intended to be distinct).
The verbal issue with descendant and ancestor is not uncommon, even showed up in the second Harry Potter book, managed to get through the editors even, so don't be too embarrassed.
EDIT: Also, calling Cyrillic Byzantine is not strictly speaking inaccurate, due to it being named after and with the aid of a Byzantine priest.
EDIT2: The Viking Rus did establish a precedent and imported a standard which, although it ultimately became fully assimilated and incorporated into local Slavic culture, influenced everything that came after. The flounders of a society have an impact on everything that follows them, however little the latter portions ressemble the earlier. Modern American culture bears almost no resemblance to that of England in the 15-1700s, but are indisputably derived from and influenced by.
EDIT3: The Thule (TOO-lee) weren't the first inhabitants of Greenland, at least if we take their oral history as a viable if not completely accurate source. When they migrated there they had several conflicts with another people who already lived there, usually assumed to be the Dorset. The Dorset did indeed primarily inhabit the northern parts of Greenland, but the Norse had several settlements along the west coast almost to the northwestern tip of the island, primarily for harvesting walrus, which didn't usually live as far south as the Western,, Central, or Eastern settlements.
Please do a history on the reign of ezana, the king of Aksum who converted to christianity and established the oldest independant christian empire in africa
Very, very good idea!!
I found this small video on Axum, & it covers A LOT!
th-cam.com/video/B_3KQ4zF26o/w-d-xo.html
I think they have now.
You blew that teddy bear's mind man.
I freaking love you're doing Sun Yat Sen next. He's like the most influential asian westerners have never heard of, period.
Could you guys do the events leading up to the Great Depression
It'd be cool, and also show that there was a surprisingly long amount of time from the stock market crash and the true start of the Great Depression for most Americans.
The big sad
If you're doing the potato famine there is a really good book called "the blood that never dried" with a chapter on it that gives some really good explanation and, if I remember correctly, some good individual stories that would suit your narrative style really well.
It's also just a good book about the abusive aspect of the British Empire.
From what I've read spears were the main weapon with shields. Axes and other arms were secondary. There are also Dane axes which are long poled axes which some used.
I love Extra History! Would you ever consider doing a series on the Winter War?
Could you do an episode(s) about Constantie XI, the last emperor of Byzantium.
Do the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and it's origins sometime. The "lies" episode will be half the running time of the series.
I love that you go back afterwards and talk about corrections and elaborate what didn't make a good cartoon. Like the Magic School Bus.
My favourite time stamp is this one.
25:23
I'm basically the Kevin Bacon of history. ;)
Yeah
I am emerged in the lectures that you recommended I truly can’t get enough
I don't usually comment on TH-cam videos regarding the national history of the balcan states but since I value the series and I consider Extra credits as a credible source of information (knowing that I write below a video disclaming that) I want to ask you about your resources.
Around 13:00 you said that Cyrillic originated from Bulgaria. Can you please reference that since it's a touchy subject and I'd like to know your sources for this and possibly future videos on the subject and region.
P. S. You're doing an amazing job and I'm loving the series.
Saint Olga, patron of widows (fitting), converts (fitting), and sweet sweet murderous revenge!
It is pretty certain that Ivar the boneless, king of Dublin from 857 to 873, is the same Ivar that led The Great Heathen army which invaded england in 865. Dublin was, at the time, probably the most important viking town/city in western Europe and was often used as a springboard to invade other parts of Europe. In the Irish annals, where Ivar is referred to as Ímair, Ímair died in 873, as does Ivar the boneless who is said to have died in Dublin. Too many coincidences here to be dismissed. No doubt about it that Ivar the boneless and Ímair are one and the same.
Hey all of you over there working on this content. There is a high chance that you wont see this but, I just want you all to know your channel is highly entertaining, and has had a large impact on my life I love your stories not just the history but also all the content you produce cheers yall while I finish my beer and send you the love you all deserve. Take car stay safe and keep up the great work.
You also again touched on a very touchy subject. Who developed the Cyrillic system is currently contested between Greece, Bulgaria and fYRoM (who just claim all Bulgarian history of the period).
I just realized something, you guys might have a blast doing an episode about the failed Punitive Expedition. It has Extra History written all over it, gunfighters, famous figures and a bunch of wacky incidents that should fall into the category of: That doesn't sound right!
Some other good historical fiction to read is the The Last Kingdom (The Saxon Chronicles Series) by Bernard Cornwell. He tells a good historical account of the Alfred the Great time period with the right amount of fiction. Cornwell draws you into the history with his storytelling.
Thank you Rob. You do a great job.
Series on Central Asia and Georgian/Uzbek/Armenian history please!
Watching this series made me want to read the Vinland Saga manga.
Do a series on Hernando de Soto, the failed Conquistador of the southern US and the mound building Kingdoms of the Mississippi. American pyramids are so cool!
Never heard of him and are you talking about Cahokia?
sion8 Cahokia was the largest! But there were other large city states and chiefdoms recorded by De Soto and his party. De Soto participated in the conquest of Peru and was allowed to explore Florida and the rest of the South in search of gold for Spain. He traveled through inland Georgia and the Carolinas and then west to the Mississippi, crossing the borders of many chiefdoms, all mound builders. The Indian chief Tuscaloosa’s defeat at Mabila is still one of the bloodiest battles on American soil. De Soto died in the wilderness. The chiefdoms he recorded vanished by the time of the British 100 years later, possibly because of European diseases he left behind. His expedition may also be responsible for wild boars in North America.
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Even if the people disappeared, I haven't heard of mound pyramids in Northern America outside of Cahokia. I mean there were large settlements in today's New England but they were build of wood and hides, but those mounds would still exists today and would be highly talked about just like Cahokia and the Maya and Aztec pyramids.
sion8 The mounds were smaller than Cahokia. Many of the mounds are lost and are assumed to be built over. Others are turned into little state parks. Unfortunately there is not a lot to see. They are not remembered like the Aztecs because they were not an Empire and collapsed rather easily, but this culture was widespread. The Natchez were the last to survive into the colonial era and their society was distinct from other Indian groups.
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I see, well that is sad.
Can you please do one of this about
1) The Philippine Conquered by Spaniard
2) The Gupta Empire
If you can do these, then I am so glad and thankful for you for helping me with my exams
About the Stone ship graves. Yes there are some in Norway there is one in the local Elementary School
Damn stormcloaks...
Skyrim belongs to the Nords!
VICTORY OR SOVNGARDE!
Filthy n'wahs
Imperial Dog!
Chinese 3 kingdoms next
Faizal Hilmy unless they lied (no “pun” intended) in the lies for Majapahit, the next one will be Chinese.
Next one will be Sun Yat-sen.
The most recent civil war is interesting, but nowhere near as cool as the Three Kingdoms
But the famous thing about the three kingdoms isn't even correct history. Battle of Chibi, mostly made up. Guanyu kills 6 generals? Didn't happen. Empty fort strategy? Probably fabricated for a good read. Thing is, Three kingdoms would fit well for a literature series rather than a history one.
@@PeterLiuIsBeast that's exactly the perfect scenario for the "Lies" video
Was just about to write that Dublin also had a settlement and in fact more importantly a castle before the Vikings founded the city.
Damn lies beat me to it (but forgot the castle)
Yeah! We finally saw Zoe on the series!
Krampus YOU MEAN THAT SOUL SINGING GOAT.
YOU GET THE ROD YOU GET THE ROD
Spears. Freaking spears were pretty much the only main weapon anybody used back then. Especially by non professional troops. They were cheap, easy to use and good for protecting your mates with.
Axes (especially two handed ones) and swords were weapons for the semi professional house-karls and nobles.
Hi Extra History, I have a demand, can you do a video about the Battle of Wadi al Makhazin.
I know what happened in it but i want you to share it with the other subscribers.
Continue what you're doing it's perfect and i love it.
And thanks you :)
These episodes are super interesting. Def buying the books btw!
A big problem is that most people think British and English are the same thing
@@orion3665 Britain is the whole island while England is only the south middle part, the rest being Wales and Scotland.
Britain refers to the main island that England, Scotland, and Wales are on. England is just England: take Britain, and subtract the north (Scotland) and the central west (Wales).
There's also the "United Kingdom", which is short for "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", which is the actual nation state. It consists of the island of Britain as well as Northern Ireland.
Then there's the "British Isles" which is controversial in Ireland (as mentioned in this video), but for rather dumb reasons (basically conflating objective geography with the complex historical geopolitics of the British Isles). As a matter of sheer geography, it consists of the islands of Britain, Ireland, and many other smaller islands in the region.
1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 british includes all from great britain islands it can be scottish irish welsh or english people but english is people that make the uk with welsh and scottish
Carlos Saraiva thx
Eh, not my problem if they fail in geography.
Also, an Atatürk series would be good (there's a great documentary by a journalist called Can Dündar to start you off).
Im an English teacher in Turkey and I always recommend this channel because you are fascinating and provide good subtitles. Good work folks!
Please do a video on Skanderbeg
It's a common trait to nickname prominent people with sarcastic tags. During the Roman republic, a prominent son of the gens (i.e.clan) Julia, one Gaius, was losing his hair at a young age. So, of course, he ended up with a cognomen that meant "curly". So every title that came from that cognomen, including the German and Russian imperial types, could easily be a Stooge. And the proper pronunciation of said cognomen pretty much matches the German Kaiser (Caesar).
"I'm Horace Walpole and I'm ok with this."
I'm Horace Walpole, and this is my favourite book on the Citadel
Do the Portuguese-Ottoman war!
Portugal. Small contry. Big balls
10:03: I wouldn't phrase it that way, it is a direct line just not a direct line through every single monarch of Britain. Several lines, like the tudor's and the stuarts had 100 year leaps back in time to their first monarch to then trace down and fine the next Monarch. Victoria was George III's granddaughter bypassing the elder sons of George III who failed to produce live/legitimate heirs before dying. George 1 was the grandson of James I's daughter Elizabeth. James I was was a double descendant from Henry VII and Elizabeth of York, who in turn was a double descendant from Edward III. Edward III was a direct descendant of Henry II and Henry II was through his mother a descendant of Rollo The Walker.
really neat to learn the various impacts the vikings had on the world even if it wasn't all accurate
Thank you for mentioning the fact that some of these stories are only cool or funny because of the immense temporal gap that prevents us from really contextualizing the awful shit people did back then properly. It's a common problem that's way too easy to fall into.
I read somewhere that halfdan (often called hvitserk or white shirt) another son of Ragnar is actually who started the rus. It's doubtful. But still a cool thought
"It's Krampus, my dudes"
-Robert Walpole, 1967
Viking in Old Norse is a noun, full stop, not a verb. And the -r in Old Norse is a grammatical ending used for masculine nouns in the nominative singular case (it has the same origin as the -us ending in many Latin masculine nouns). It was not used to convert a verb into a noun to describe a person doing that verb, it just looks that way because it's similar to the -er suffix in English and in modern Danish and most Norwegian dialects, but they are not related. The English/Norwegian/Danish -er suffix would have been -ari in Old Norse, like kaupari, "buyer", from the verb kaupa, "to buy" (identical to modern Icelandic, and almost identical to -are in modern Swedish). It's still -ari in modern Icelandic, and -are in modern Swedish.
so, quick question, what happened to James? Not that I have a problem with Rob, he does a really solid job, just wondering why James doesn't do this anymore. Good episode and special props to you guys for doing this, most people don't tend to acknowledge that not only do they make mistakes, but there is a lot about history that's somewhat open to interpretation either due to the sources (or lack thereof) available or the political leanings of the time or sources themselves (people are less likely to write things that cast the crown in a bad light if they're likely to get beheaded or even if the work is simply being commissioned by said king, which colors sources from that time)
On this service history is too often covered by only talking about the great wars and battles though these were just the tiniest part of the whole history. Good to see something done that isn’t only about how war but also how trade and travel and exchange between people could influence the world to a much greater degree.
People are very sure about the linguistics, we have quite a lot of written material and Icelandic mirrors our knowledge so closely that we know quite a lot about old Norse pronunciation and grammar. To go Víking, He is a Víkingr.
Dorset culture preceded Thule in Greenland and was only in the far north, Thule/proto-Inuit came later after Norse settlement with a different culture and hunting strategies and spread further south.
That's my understanding but it's based on a book I read a while ago so I'm not totally sure that's what scholars think today.
Imhair doesn't not sound like Emir or Imir btw. H does not produce it's own sound in Gaelic, it makes an adjacent consonant have a different sound, to kinda make up for sounds that are not normally in Gaelic. Bean sidhe is pronounced banshee, as cait sith is pronounced caht shee (sith is the Scottish version, sidhe is Irish).
28:37 first mistake , Gaelic is the language family not the language , it can be called Irish Gaelic but its normally just called Irish
Also just a few tips :
Bh=v , ch=obstructed h thing , dh=y th=h
If something is preceded by an , don't pronounce the second letter ( or third if the first two are bh )
WHAT!! A Krampus video! Yes!
Little suggestion since Christmas is coming around you could to battle of the bulge from ww2 since it happened over Christmas
(nova) scotian here. I always heard and thought that the tribe the vikings encountered in Newfoundland were the beothuk people.
armagh is said right.good job
Hi there!
Could you please do a feature on the Iolaire disaster, which has its centennial anniversary just coming up...
It's a largely forgotten tragedy, even to most people in Scotland... But it's quite the tale, and one that needs telling IMO.
You should do an episode on Go Chi Minh
The anishnawbe lived in that area when the Vikings arrived and they fought off the Vikings . That’s why the Vikings left and went to Greenland
The Anishinaabe are around the Great Lakes, far from the Maritimes
That's an interesting Walpole connection.
😨😨that picture is one of the most haunting
Correction; beer and ale were different things during the viking age. My understanding is that ale was made with honey and was essentially a cheap version of mead wheras beer developed in Egypt as medicine.
So they likely did not drink a lot of mead, but likely a lot of ale.
I do not know when beer moved in but I do know that the church was associated with it.
Nope, ale and beer have always been pretty much the same thing.
In fact the recipes we get from Egypt are technically an ale as they contain no hops.
If it has honey whatsoever, it can be called mead. As the term 'mead' literally just refers to the sweetening of honey and use of flowers. Hence, 'meadows"
I'd be very interested in a fully Charlemagne series seeing as you've touched on him before.
As a dane myself, the only real peeve I had with the Viking Expansion videos is that you repeatedly refer to Longships and other ships of the period, like Knarrs, as flat-bottomed ships; they aren't. They're round-bottomed. And you refer to the construction method of clinker ships, so you must have looked into it a bit. It's really a very small thing.
whoop, can't wait for those upcoming eps!
P.S as an Irishman with decent Gaeilge , will be on yo asses for pronunciation.
Vinland translated to English is Wineland, but, it could be Vinland as "Winning Land" in English, tho it dose not sound likely... i think more it is Wineland just as Greenland would attract more ppl.
the last official descendant of Rurik died in the 16 century and then the Romanovs were unofficial descendants of Rurik
ghui black That’s wrong. The last one of Muscovite(!) Rurikids has died in the 16th century. There are multiple proven descendants of the Rurikovich dynasty who are still around. Some even reached high positions under the Romanovs (Lobanov-Rostovsky was minister of foreign affairs, for instance).
Krampus will be such a fun episode.
do salahadeen story pls
Queen Elizabeth is a direct decedent of William the Conqueror. He was her 24th great grandfather through her mother.
By now propably most of europe is😎
@@Azaghal1988 Not really, with the most generous calculations he would have about 25-30 million descendants in total, but only if there wasn't any inbreeding and no lineages died out, so a more realistic estimate would be about 50-100,000 living descendants.
@@Aoderic Now I'm curious about those estimates, because I was convinced that every human today descends from almost everyone from 1000years ago. It's just math, as long as people have more than 1 child in average the number of descendants explodes quickly (but of course you need more than 2 for the overall population to grow so the effect is huge). And one person traveling every now and then is enough to spread the lineage.
@@ghislainbugnicourt3709 Well when people do blind math the get those enormous numbers. So they may say that a generation on average 25 years, so in a 1000 years there would be 40 generations, and that is kind of okay. Then they say that every mother gets on average 3-4 kids historically, and that's also kind of okay. But then this is were it goes wrong, they say 3.5^40, and then you'll get an insane number like 5.7 sextillion, and so they conclude that everybody must be descended from that person a 1000 years ago. But they fail to understand, that it isn't blind math. Since they fail to take into account, that their calculation assumes several wrong things: 1. that no child ever dies in infancy, 2. that no man or woman ever live life childless, 3. that no one ever have children with a cousin even to the x removed, i.e. none of the millions of people in their calculation ever meets and have children with any of the other millions.
When we then talk of royals, we have the great benefit, of quite detailed ledgers of lineages. So we know quite well how many kids any of the kings had, and we know how many kids his kids had, and it turns out that many of those kids died in infancy, quite few died childless, and an appalling amount married cousins and second cousins etc. All of those factors reduce the final amounts drastically.
Oh my, Sun Yat-Sen. To us Taiwan people, this is a person we have a REALLY mixed feeling at. Very excited!
The British Isles - if your not going to use that term how will you refer to them? It seems like the only term that people will understand.
I've heard it once being called the “North Atlantic Islands”, but I find it dumb. British Isles is fine, the Gulf of Mexico isn't Mexico's because it's named that way.
Britain and Ireland. Simple.
@@juxyoh4659 that's both imprecise (it wouldn't cover the Isle of Mann for example) and suggests a politcal divide that wasn't there at the time.
love your vid
We want to see Warsaw Uprising!
could you please make a series or at least a video about Hussites?
Rollo is my 34 times great grandfather on my grandmother's side. No bullshit! My callsign is my real name in the old Norse. Got it the old way too, (you could say grandma was old fashioned she demanded to be addressed in the old speak as Amma still means grandmother but what are ya ta do?) at my "Rite of Ausa Vatni and Nafnfesti" (Norse naming ceremony). I still have my gift as well a wolf skin Sark (shirt) of honor our class of old the Berserkers called "Ulfhedinn" (the whole group)only 1 of the Ulfhedinn is an "Ulfhednar" But those are other stories.
you should really do a series on Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth somewhere down the line
Im still waiting for a video on the Varangian guard
Can you, if you haven’t done it yet, can you do one over the REIGN OF TERROR after the French Revolution
Didn't expect Japanese fictional manga would end up as reliable source
If the sack of Luna sounds familiar to anyone, the show Vikings has something very similar happen in season 3, (not quite a spoiler.
Could you do the Texas revolution.
Charles II the Bald got his name because he shaved his head as a sign of submission to the Church when he assisted the consacration of an abbey by Pope John VIII. It was the custom for frankish kings to keep their hair long, so that act stunned his people. Charles III the Simple means "the Straightforward". The word's meaning changed. His father was King Louis II the Stammerer... I've read somewhere that in the beginning, kings did not have numbers. So people gave them these nicknames to know of which Charles or Louis they were talking about. That's also why England has an Edward the Elder and an Edward the Confessor before they get an Edward I Longshanks. English kings' nicknames were not bad either...
Can you do Maximillian I. von Habsburg he is one of the most interesting diplomatic figures in the middle ages in my opinion
Hey! I love your videos! Can you try to do something on alexander hamilton or something on canada? Its ok if not. Just a suggestion 😁
I'm pretty sure your Hastin story is about Harald Haradre.
You should make a video about alexander the great
25:27 Well you see, Walpole is actually a direct descendant of William the Conquerer, so by extension, Rollo the Walker!
By the way, this was a joke, don't take it seriously.