The very first Mercedes S-Class W116 FULL REVIEW 350 SE V8 1979 - Autogefühl
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- This is our in-depth review of the Mercedes S-Class W116. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
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If it ain't 6.9 SEL with leather seats,it ain't proper S class.
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Red jo wie d'r de Schnawel gewachsa esch !
Can we make this a regular feature, I’d love to see in depth reviews on older cars.
Yes agreed
my thoughts exactly!
/// M I’d love this as a regular feature
Please do Thomas. I would give you 5 - Thumbs up if possible. Bruno Sacco created a timeless design for Mercedes. Luxury in the 70s meant refinement and comfort. Manufacturers are now required to add performance.
Cannot agree more. There could be whole series of evergreens like that.Thomas would be wearing tweed jacket, when presenting those cars, to get more along with past times :)
Conclusion: ...when cars were built by engineers not by marketing people!
Beautiful car, nice color, excellent review Thomas!
In 50 years a person with nostalgia will tell the same shit about todays cars.
@@d20207 Highly doubt that, today's cars are made to last max 150.000km no more. Older mercs were built to last
@@d20207 In 50 years time all those new Mercedes will be recycled and made into Teslas
@@d20207 I have spent some time in that car back in 2000 when good friend got it and we made a lot of trips in it. After 20 years of driving newer cars I dream about to have this W116 ....
Back when cars were simpler and repairable,Todays cars in 20 years time will be deliberately obsolete and possibly scrapped because some electronic component cant be fixed or replaced.And I dont think a local garage will be able to keep them going either!
I can imagine that if you were to bought a brand new Benz back in 1972 it could realistically last you a lifetime. And I don't think you can buy car like that today.
Or a Land Cruiser
especially not a mercedes lol
So true but cars that last so long means you keep it instead of changing it,car makers dont like that....
Well, it's not like much of this, or these cars were not replaced or rebuilt. Gaskets, anything rubber, wood-veneer cracked when you sneezed in these W-116s, not to mention that there were only 40 or 50 moving parts. My 1998 W140 is 'Like New' and has much more creature comfort, technology, safety, power, and economy than these old tractors. Original paint, leather, dash, wood, double-pain glass, 11 speakers, etc. Will it last a lifetime? If I want it to. Oh, and armrest; standard equipment.
Hello, subscriber from the Philippines here. My father passed away 30 years ago. I was only 17. He left behind this car, a W116 350 SE in light green color.
Watching your video brought back a lot of good memories I had with him as a child. I would ride on the front passenger seat with the sunroof open while he drove. When there was an military coup that broke out in Manila, 8 of us rode in this car and travelled north. It sped through national highways, trekked rough provincial back roads, crossed rivers and traversed through mountain passes without missing a beat. The car has been sitting in our garage since 1998.
Thank you for this video. It has inspired me to restore it back to its original condition.
What a story!
A car like that deserves to be restored to original condition. Sounds like it might have saved your lives or at least kept you out of a bad situation.
My old boss had a 450 SEL in 1979. I got it upto 120 mph. It was dark blue and houndstooth interior as this. He told me to drive it slowly. I loved that car. It was new then and felt so special to a 22year old.
Love these old Tanks
I remember that the 450 versions (a rare sight, btw.) of the first S-Class were actually pretty damn fast even for today's standard.
I currently drive a new Mercedes (and I really like it), but these older model were just top class and way superior in terms of build quality, reliability and class than today’s lineup
It was a time when Mercedes didn't have to use the word 'luxury' in their marketing. Because it was so obvious.
Thomas is the most German looking person since Michael Schumacher
and he's also German 😜👍
He has a Polish name right?
Constantine Joseph yes, but does not speak Polish
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@@ConstantineJoseph he doesn't polish cars, he reviews cars 🤦♂️😉😂
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Wow. My uncle used to have one of these Mercedes. Brings to me nice memories.
So elegant and classy. Recent S Classes just don't compare in that regard IMHO. I love how Thomas describes how everything feels and sounds -- all those little things that make such a difference in owning a car and in his reviews.
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I would love to see this as a regular feature. Mercedes Benz cars of this period were the best.The quality control and customer service of Mercedes was second to none during this time. Mercedes stopped making quality vehicles in about 1998. Today their cars don't stand out as being anything special and here in the UK are not well rated in reliability surveys. They need to look back to their roots and start producing more reliable and better built vehicles. At the moment Lexus are way ahead when it comes to reliability and customer satisfaction.Thanks for a great channel. Your car reviews are really detailed and comprehensive. Well done.
Wow, you were flying with your dad at 200km/h. I remember when my dad drove his Moskvich with 100km/h for the first time. A milestone memory for little me :)
200 km/hr = 125 mph
Beautiful car! If only modern Mercedes and cars in general were like this.
Brings back great memories of the 70's.
No Bluetooth, no GPS, in fact very different from the cars of today!!
Many Thanks, Peace From London. 🙏🙏
I've had the pleasure of driving a 450SEL 6.9, one of the best cars I've ever driven
what a legend !!! the rest of the automotive world was years behind s-class tech and beauty and comfort!!
Brilliant, timeless design. Something the modern Mercedes cars lack.
5:48 You must look closely on newer Mercedes backlights Thomas. This ripped "feature" was used at newer models also. For example at the C-Class W203 2004. There is also at least 2 slightly rips. This design element was at least hinted at over several decades and was literally a Mercedes distinguishing feature.
The ribbed feature in the taillights was designed to be self-cleaning in inclement weather. The ribs were designed to channel/flush water through so that it removed dirt. It actually works. How do I know this? It was in the sales brochure from the 1982 300SD Turbodiesel that my Dad purchased at that time.
@@solid1378 Thomas gives the same explanation in the video. Mercedes probably brought this brochure with them to the appointment. However, this design feature and recognition feature was still used until the mid-2000s, although Thomas also said in the video that it quickly disappeared. But all the model series had this up to modern times from that time of.
Another cool detalj where the doorlocks which you cant find in nowadays Mercs, there garantied that doors could be open even when the car rolled over,
What an icon - and I'm not talking about Thomas here 😂. Pure understated class - it's amazing how well it's aged. I love how the horizontal/vertical elements of the center console will be carried over in spirit to the next S-class. Thanks for the review Thomas - would be great to see a few more through the year of iconic cars.
Takes me back to my time in West Germany in the 80s, all the taxis were big Mercedes.
Spectacular idea to review the older S Class. I wish they did this in the modern cars where the exterior and the interior are co-ordinated. I remember seeing it in other older Mercedes say in green. Love the door closing sound, it’s like a vault. Thank you Thomas, and i was surprised that it was all animal free too.
Wow this brings back memories of blasting from Frankfurt to Basel on the A5 with my father's late 70's 350se, great video
@Thomas, yes yes and YES! that's what we needed: revisit the classics, the quirky, the forgotten! Cheers!
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12:39 and that's when it all started... :)
Autogefühl was born...
This S-Class remembered why I love cars.
The best S class ever built, my dad had a white 1975 350SE, did over 500000 trouble free kilometers before he sold it
Amazing car condition.. It is like a new one.. All - time classic car that brings me nostalgic feelings
Excited for the debut of the new S-Class but revisiting these historic models like the W116 is brilliant. Demonstrates just how far ahead Mercedes-Benz was in terms of engineering, safety and a plethora of other details back in the day. Would love for this to become a more regular feature on the channel too!
I owned a 280s Right hand drive in Trinidad for ten years and enjoyed everything about it.No trouble to report.
Can we have these classic reviews every Sunday Thomas?
Great video Thomas. Such a lovely condition W116, but not surprised of condition as it's from the Daimler Classic Museum. I can see why you picked this car first, to test. Hope Mercedes Classic will give you more cars to test - an R107 with a V8 perhaps! Yes, these 1970's & 1980's Mercs are quite 'modern' and useable in today's traffic. Thanks for the very amusing Review, and also the great driving - as always, we felt we were in the car with you! Best wishes.
R107 ohhhh yes
Or a W124 to sample a different era.
@@autogefuehl - Oh yes - an R107 - a 500 SL Roadster - the best R107...
Growing up in the 70's and 80's in Ireland I remember these cars with great affection. You had to be loaded to own them so I was always jealous when I saw them. They also had them in unique colours as well while the other brands had bland flat colours. They were so well made but like all cars back then rust was a nightmare. This car is simply stunning and I would be grinning ear to ear if I had one.
Extraordinary presentation. It's the same all over the world, I grew up in my dad's W115 230E 'Strich Acht', the same speedometer reached 200. I used to have a W201 190E 'Baby Benz', the best car I've ever owned, a totally bulletproof, totally satisfying car. With the same speedometer. (i kept it for 17 years). The 'normal' Mercedes sedans, coupes (and SLs), from the 1968 W114/115, up to 1998 and the end of production of the W140 S-Class, are still the best cars ever built, in the history of car manufacturing in general. Modern Mercedes' cars don't have that 'special' feeling.
This is an excellent feature. Please do more like these Thomas. Unfortunately, automakers no longer turn out well engineered and designed cars like these. Even M-B has lost its way.
My first ride in an S-class was in a W116. It was a 280S, in silver green. So this model holds special memories for me. Maybe one day I'll get to own one.
The modern Mercedes is built around vanity. I had a 1975 350SE: a very good car!
Hands down to one of the best cars ever. Mercedes pushed the auto innovation forward and is still one of the leaders in auto innovation !......this car should be preserved as part of German heritage. Thanks Thomas !
First of all, I want to give a huge thanks to you sir for hosting such a masterpiece of engineering, that was for you. And for the car, it belongs to the era where Daimler Benz used to put limitless and priceless dedication in the process of automobile manufacturing in order to produce mobility icons not a mere of luxury ways of transportation. By the way, if you managed to put your hands on this, then you are so close from hosting the all-new Mercedes Benz S-class simply because you are as special as always.
I grew up in an SEL450 with the exact same color & interior! Seeing it brought me back many years! It was a great car!
Beautiful, when I was a kid I saw one almost every day and dreamed about having one some day. It didn´t happen, but I still love it. Modern cars are safer and more ecological, ok, but passion is gone. Thanks for the great video. Saludos.
They say the S-Class is always a look into what the future of cars will be.
I'll go for this one, so classic and beautiful, looks and feels indestructible. What a car!!!
Somehow more classy than current ones.
Nothing compares with this classic masterpiece!
Blue interior looks really fantastic. I was surprised how good it looks inside and animal free, wow.
I was looking at one of these on a used car lot a while ago. When i was getting out I closed the door and.... had to open and close it again just to hear that closing sound.
Please do more vintage reviews!
WBizarre I second that. Like first E and first C too
What a glorious car! It's a masterpiece!
love the attention to sounds in the interior. Also, more old cars!
Thomas, what a excellent presentation of, probably the most beautiful Mercedes-Benz ever build... W116 !!! CONGRATULATIONS!
glad u enjoyed :)
This car is art. The all new S Class is touch screen everywhere, no design.
Love this new series. Please make more in the future. Too many unnecessary and politic driven regulations on new cars and I find old cars more and more attractive.
Beautiful car. Classic. Perfect color. Nice to see how well it has been cared for. Built to last a lifetime. It’s like life in simpler times. Well done Thomas.👍
I would take this over any new car that there is out right now, this is a mechanical masterpiece
It is in Thomas Blue! Inside and outside! Built when engineers were in charge, not the accountants. I very much enjoyed the review. Please do more classics!
How I miss my MB 280 SEL 1975. Such a beautyfull car. Sold it 20 years ago and now I want it back :-) I am hoping for more classic car reviews. Nice work Thomas.
This car along with the 2 SL variants were the height of tech, safety and workmanship of the 20th century...will go down in history as The Bench Marks of the automobile.
Successor W126 also considered as very good though
U mean R107?
As always, well done on a review of this timeless classic...my late father had one, a w116, 280s...it was in near concourse condition...unfortunately I sold it when it had to make way for my then new c-class...living to regret it till now...:(((
Bring back colour-matched wheels!
bring back colour ;-)
This was a period when Mercedes Benz engineered cars like no other.. IMHO, Mercedes Benz have since the early 2000’s lost their way.
Yes, I agree! The 1980s were the BEST decade for Mercedes, IMHO. The W126 S-Class (the one after this), is my _MOST FAVORITE_ S-Class of all time. The most timeless, classic, beautiful, innovative S Class of them all!! In fact, the Mercedes slogan at the time was _"Engineered like no other car in the world"_
The s class and w123 were absolutely bulletproof
I don’t believe they lost their way. The official statement was “our cars are over engineered” which made savings of over 1 billion pounds. So was a money saving exercise, I agree completely recent cars have not been as good.
You're right. Before it was sadly stolen I had a 1992 W124 E-class it was wonderfully engineered and reliable. If you look at the prices the old models are going up for a reason.
Yes after the 140 it all went wrong
Thomas my friend. Great job mate. 👍
Amazing! Love your reviews, so nice to see you bringing this level of review to older cars!
What a beautiful car, iron, chrome aluminum, without plastic the kind of engine you can work on :)by the way the door closes like a Mercedes G-class the same noise:))
Beautiful 😍 would prefer this over the 2020 S class
I miss the good old MB design.
Danke, Thomas. Großartig! Auch als Fan moderner (E-)Autos eine tolle Abwechslung!
Ich bin sich nicht der Einzige, der sich solch ein Format öfter mal wünscht.
Na ja, wenn dann bald alle diese sinnlosen E Vehikel fahren, werden wohl in absehbarer Zeit keine richtigen Autos mit Motor mehr fahren dürfen. Auch nicht solche schönen Oldtimer wie in diesem Video. Aber immer schön Batteriekisten kaufen, von denen noch keiner weiß wie und wo später massenhaft die Batterien als Sondermüll entsorgt werden. Und für die Angänger des CO2 Märchens - eine Batteriekiste, Auto kann man so ein Teil nicht nennen, eine Batteriekiste verursacht in der Herstellung so viel CO2 wie ein richtiges Auto in 8 - 10 Betriebsjahren frei setzt. Batteriekisten gab es übrigens schon in den zwanziger Jahren in relativ großem Umfang. Die Technik wurde dann aber eingestellt, weil sie nichts taugte und der Verbrennungsmotor setze sich durch. Unsere Vorfahren waren halt in einigen Bereichen schlauer. 😗 Aber immer schön mit der Zeit gehen. 😉🤧👍
@@alberteisenmann1023 Mach dich dich erst mal schlau, bevor du hier so einen Quark verzapfst. Seit wann werden die Akkus entsorgt? Die Quelle musst du mir mal geben...
Du bist wahrscheinlich noch nie einen Meter elektrisch gefahren, anders kann ich mir den schlauen Kommentar nicht erklären.
Seit gut einem Monat habe ich nun ein E-Auto für einen Alltagstest zu Hause. Bin schon über 2.200 Kilometer gefahren. Seitdem steht sich mein sehr gut motorisierter und moderner Verbrenner die Reifen platt. Im Vergleich fährt sich nämlich nahezu JEDER Verbrenner wie ein schöner Oldtimer!
Mit primitiven Geschreibsel und Gedutze und mach dich mal schlau brauchen sie mir nicht kommen. Aber um auf dem Niveau zu bleiben, fahren sie ihren Karren mal schön weiter wenn es ihnen Spaß macht. Und nein, ich bin noch nie einen Meter mit einer Elektrokarre gefahren, das ist gut so und wird auch so bleiben. Zum Schluss noch etwas zum - Schlaumachen.
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Great idea. I am really used to watch Thomas style reviews. Great to see it applied to older cars!
Keep up the good work you do!
It is so nice to see this channel grow over the years, always consistent and quality content. Thank you!
highly appreciated, great u re with us!
First class content as usual. Great work guys. For us who love cars this is a fantastic watch and a new perspective. Thanks!
Back when Mercedes were engineered to last for at least 20 years.
Great video, Thomas.
Beautiful car!! this and the W126 my two favourite S-Class of all time. I think Mercedes should really consider bringing these back into production I think there's a huge demand worldwide like myself who want that 70's 80's look! not every Mercedes enthusiast likes or desires Mercedes design language nowadays.
Marcel, you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!! I couldn't be more agree :)
You should also launch a new TH-cam channel for classic and vintage car reviews. It will be a big hit . Please .
This is the only car you have reviewed that I would want. Its Class!
You are a great presenter Thomas, I can watch your videos all day. Your attention to detail, style of presenting and knowledge is amazing. Keep going, more classics please : )
Such a beautiful, classy car.
Great video! Please make more like this of old, relevant classic cars!
This is amazing, Thomas. Thank you for reviewing possibly my favourite old-school car ever. W116. As a Mercedes-Benz enthusiast and buyer, it really hits me close to home to see a review of a classic. And even more so since it is this model in particular.
W116, W140, and W222 are some my favourite S-Class models. In other words, my favourite cars ever. But to clarify, I like all S-Class models (at least the ones I have seen in person and drove, which there are many). They all ride and feel so nice. W223 is a strong contender to also be one of my favourites, but I will only know for certain next year when I get to drive it. Yeah, I know it is (for some odd reason) controversial to like W223, but I am liking what I see so far. Some people will be triggered and angry at me for liking it and willing to give it a chance, but okay. Just my opinion. Don't get angry.
This W116 really gets me because I got great memories with this car. First time I was inside one and felt it was when I just started High School. My crush/friend at the time: her parents drove one. She was my friend, but I was also in-love with her. I use to walk home from school...which was about a two and a half hour walk. That was a pretty long walk for me at the time. One day my friend/crush's parents gave me a lift home in this W116. I have never been so comfortable in my life, lol. And I say this even though I was taken to school in another Mercedes-Benz! Unbelievable! So it was not like I have never been in a Mercedes-Benz. Getting a lift in this car became more of a regular thing.
One day my friend/crush and I were alone in the car. We pulled over for some reason. I don't remember. It was probably to take pictures of the scenery. I reckon I tell her that I am in-love with her, but I did not go through with it. I was too scared to say it! 😂 But we did have a great chat about life and our future. And we had a great few more years as friends.
This W116 quickly became one of my first dream cars of the time. Still is. If I could find one in great condition, I would buy it. I cannot find them. I have been searching. My childhood crush and I have lost contact years ago. I would have bought her parents' one if it was still running.
With regards to reliability of Mercedes-Benz - old versus new. From experience and talking to many Mercedes-Benz owners in my online and offline community, I think the reliability is still largely the same with ups and downs. Above average to average. I know people with S-Class, E-Class, and other models from around before and after the year 2001 are still with them today as daily drivers. They have reported to me that they had little to no issues. My first car was a hand-me-down from 2003. I gave it to one of my nieces who still has it. Reported little to no issues. My GLA 200 ran great, except the coolant leak problem I had. My sister has it now. Reported no issues. My current C-Class (though it is only about five years old) has not shown any signs of issues. According to random people on the internet, it should have broken right after the warranty. But the warranty is up long ago. I am keeping the car until 2024, maybe. I think that reliability is individual, not certain. You may get a lemon...you may not. I have had people (indirectly) admit to me that they did not take care of their car/s properly by telling me that they missed the service dates, did not change the oil often enough, and so on. People are so careless. I have worked at a car dealership some years ago and seen it for myself. Customers are so reckless, so bratty, and so careless. I have so many horror stories with these customers. This is not unique to Mercedes-Benz, though. Other car brands are having this problem.
Just to clarify: I am not saying that a car breaking or having issues is 100% guaranteed to be the your fault. But I am saying to take a second look at yourself before you start pointing fingers at others. Please. Too many times I have experienced irresponsible people blame their cars and the dealerships because of the issues. Too many times did I have to hold my tongue because I wanted to call out customers for their blatant stupidity. Unfortunately, the customer is always right...even when they are blatantly wrong.
To backtrack to this car: yeah, it is amazing. I absolutely love it. I think my compliment of this car holds much more weight and meaning than of someone else's who just has a love or bias towards older cars in general. I love new era cars, so for me to compliment a classic really is high praise. I do love older classics too. Of course I do, because one of my dreams is to start a vintage and old-school car collection...especially of older Mercedes-Benz models like this one. One day.
In conclusion: I am like this car. Not only do I not care where it is built, I don't care WHEN it was built. Whether it was built in 2020 or 1972 is irrelevant to me when I look at a car. There is a great car out there...no matter the year it was born. Also, I am always ready and accepting of change in cars. I am okay when cars change rather than being stuck in the past. I will always give a new car a chance, rather than immediately hating or dismissing it just because it is different and not like the ones before it...and even vise versa with older cars. I gave those a chance too rather than immediately dismissing them for being too old-school or not being new or modern. Thanks to this mindset I have found and loved many more cars (old and new) than I would have otherwise. I have learned a lot too. And I do this with many things, not just cars. I keep an open mind.
Cheers, Thomas. Great review. Sorry for the very long comment. I had a lot to say. ❤
wow what memories!
Amazing engineering by Mercedes considering that time when this classic piece was produced
A wonderful trip down memory lane. Thank you, Thomas.
My father owned a 380sel for 18 years. Sold it locally where I was able to see it running for many more years. Slow and steady wins the race.
I can still smell the interior of my dad’s 1978 280SEL 6.9 edition ❤❤❤❤. Same dark blue and interior 5 speed standard transmission
I suggested the review to friends before i even see it. And after i did, i felt i did good. Great one, Thomas! Greetings from Greece
Really enjoyed this one, Thomas. Thanks very much!
This video was an unexpected treat! Thank you (from Singapore)
Very appreciated Thomas! An absolute classic car, pure lines and top build quality!
What a perfect car! Wish I could buy one today... Love the old car reviews Thomas - more please!
My first cousin twice removed owns a 1975 450SEL. It looks majestic! ❤️
Thoroughly enjoyable video. Especially the thought and care that went into explaining the design and technical developments of that period. Hopefully, Thomas, you’ll produce more of these extracurricular motoring reports.
This was a great episode and a wonderful idea, hope there will be more reviews of classic cars. =)
Thank u Thomas and all your staff for this video, for me this Mercedes is the top of the German know How, i remember when i went to Köln in 1989, i saw one like this for the first time, i was so impressed, such a good memory
W123 coupe is one of my favourite cars of all time, I'd buy one in a heartbeat if I could find a good one. This is rather lovely too though.
This version has always been one of my favorites!! Amazing car and fantastic review, many thanks!
Amazing video Thomas, so awesome to see these oldies. You should do more of these. There's a current of thought that says cars from the 80/90 are better than contemporary cars. It'd be great to test those youngtimers and see if there's any truth to that.
Thomas...great depth review!!! great car !!! You are one of the best in TH-cam.
Very enjoyable seeing this vintage Mercedes video! I hope you include more in the future.😁
Wunderbar,danke!
Excellent review and very refreshing to see an older merc being reviewed typical Autogefuhl style. Not to mention the reference to sustainable materials 👌🏾
Classic Thomas. One of my favorites yet.
This vintage car review was a great treat. Thank you!
One of my favorite segments you’ve done and I love all your work. The ‘70s S class was one of my favorites (I had a 1979 450 SLC) and this brought back some amazing memories. This is a gorgeous example and the color combo was about perfect. Interesting that I didn’t see a tachometer on the dash. I believe all U.S. vehicles had a tachometer. Keep these video’s coming. I’d love to see a BMW Bavaria or 3.0CS. Again, great work!!
These beautiful glass headlamps still look good, they didn't fog up. I've also always preferred the refractive index of glass over plastic lenses, it makes the lenses themselves seem to glitter in the sunlight in a way modern headlamps just don't really do.
The best or nothing, for both car and review.
Such a nice surprise for Sunday
The review the w116 deserved! thank you!
Amazing Content as expected, fascinating review Thomas.!