Pro Melee's Protagonist Dilemma
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ต.ค. 2023
- Pro Melees Protagonist Dilemma, Super smash bros melee esports fans love to crown players as kings and gods but who is the main character of melee is there a protagonist what does that mean for the game of ssbm and its narratives well lets talk about it.
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Amsa is literally the anime protagonist of melee. A skinny Japanese kid traveling half way across the world to take on the best of the best while working as a salary man and finally wins a supermajor after 10 years of grinding with a mid tier character.
@kyshins4142 have you been 20? I definitely was not a grown ass man. I'm 24 and I still don't feel like an adult
@kyshins4142 you’re still a kid at 20 my guy 😂
@@sagereef You are a manchild.
@@sagereefu r grown ass man. ppl went to war younger than u and u would go to adult jail if u committed crime. it is ok to like stuff that r not traditionally "manly" tho.
@@chairwood - your local 5 year old
Amsa gets my vote for Melees protagonist. Dude literally jumped into the Melee scene with a character everyone said was not viable... And made him Viable. If you jumped into A Melee anime and followed his adventures. You'd have just as good of a time as watching Him as any anime with a crazy ass underdog story. The melee Gods the "God Slayer" the new generation. The story that couldn't write itself.. literally writes itself
Chosing a protagonist is hard but choosing an antagonist is easy. we have 2. Leffen and Nintendo lol.
LMAO
fuck leffen all my homies hate leffen
nintendo is the world gvn and leffen is blackbeard
@@Lmjacks I am your homie
I have not even heard of Leffen, could not be too bad. Swap Leffen with EA Games.
aMSa and Axe will always be the main characters of Smash Melee. They’re the spirit of the game in human form
Axe would be 01 protagonist and aMSa would be 02
Me every major: Moky is my protagonist and then JMook is my protagonist and then Mango is my protagonist and then Zain is my protagonist and then Cody-
Cody will never be a protagonist hahahaha
Based
You forgot aMSa 😂
@@savaget2058 slots after moky and JMook but before mango for me
@@ayrtonpavot3096 the guy beats cancer and then wins 11 sets in a row against the strongest competition in the world, and yall wont give the guy a break damn
Is it a dilemma, or is it just really beautiful to have every entrant in the bracket be a main character? Thanks for a more philosophical video, Chaler
Mango is the main character of the beginning of Melee. Ken and Mew2King are the greats before his time that in the first season he has to train and rise up to defeat them. Then Armada became the newcomer in season 2 to try and take down our main character. Followed by his side kick Leffen. Then later gets double teamed with the help of HungryBox in Season 3. After the defeat of Mango in Season 4, HBox would take over the world for a long time. Then the reboot starting at season 5 with aMSa and Zain and Cody and JMook, we find our main character and the rival that defeated him and his first rival either dying or retiring from battle at their old age. Still strong but not as strong as our new characters
To answer the last part, Mango has never been my favorite character in the Melee anime. I just think he really is what the story follows the most. I would say HBox or aMSa or JMook are my favorite to watch
I always thought ken was the real og, the trailblazer that set the stage for everyone else to follow. It's like he founded the kingdom of smash melee, with mew2king, mang0, armada, ppmd, hbox, zain, amsa, etc following afterwards. Ken was gen 1 (or perhaps gen 0 the prequel), five gods gen 2/1, now it's gen 3/2
@@linuslaw9648 I think that if they start with Ken in season 1, then he would fit better as an antagonist because of how dominant he was. Not sure who to make the protagonist, though, but hear me out. To make him a protagonist that we really want to root for, would be to make his story a prequel.
Ken's story would end with EVO 2007, where he gets sent to losers by Mango, who we already know the future success of. Which adds to the suspense, while still making the inevitable loss more expected. Then, Ken wins the tournament with a losers run that includes knocking out Mango in a rematch in losers finals.
The end would be him reminiscing on his matches with Mango. Seeing a kid with such potential and passion made him realize the impact he has made on the game's future and feels more comfortable to retire and pass on the torch (dramatizing here lol, but works better for the narrative). Once again, knowing the outcome of Melee's success would make this hold so much more weight.
“Melee lore” exactly what I needed
aMSa beating Mang0 using the JPN! tag is definitely main character behavior
This video reminds of the the "every zelda is the darkest zelda" video. Cool video!
shhhhhhh dont tell anyone
@@ChalerYT I KNEW IT
johnny missing the knee on armada in slow motion with sad PMD music in the background hits harder than i was prepared for
hbox is my protagonist and the community was his villain until he won them over with the power of friendship in the end
I wouldn't call him the protagonist of melee as a whole but season 5 of melee followed his gradual heel face turn from villain protagonist to anti-hero to full protagonist lol
i know it was a joke with the protagonist compilation BUT HOW COULD YOU NOT INCLUDE AXE'S VICTORY AT SMASH SUMMIT 8 😤 when axe cried, that was just too wholesome!!
this is the whole point of the video! there are to many people with to many incredible moments
Great, consistent content. Good stuff, thank you for making it.
Hey bro, just wanted to say your content is quality asf and we all really appreciate your love for the game and content that you craft with so much quality
Been binge watching your stuff all week. Great vid as always.
Was the format of this video inspired by Jacob Geller at all? It reminds me a lot of his Darkest Zelda video (which is a good thing, btw)
Great video! Really enjoyed it!
Great video as always, you consistently make some of the best melee content around.
Mang0 is pretty much not just the main character , he is Melee :
- He played against every single Top player at their peak , Ken , Azen , Chudat , PC Chris , M2K , Armada , Hbox , PPMD , Leffen , Zain , iBDW , Jmook , Wizzrobe , and I could go on..
- Mang0 even found success with 3 different characters and brought them to the top.
- Goes out of his way to give us WAY TOO many memorable sets. Bro even went Marth vs Armada and beat him at FD twice at WTFOX 2016
- You can give me a Top 10 best losers Melee runs of all time , and Mang0 would be in at least 5 of them
- He plays and wins "the way he wants" , he will live by his believes and die on them.
- His longevity is something to admire and see , he have many chances on quitting like in 2014 after winning Big House 4
- Mang0 was there to challenge M2K when he was the best, defend NA from the Swedish invasion , challenge Hbox at his peak , was there to compete to Zain to the very limit , and much more
- Mang0 also carries the narratives and story lines of Melee. Either he is a contender , a wild card , or just a buster that ends up 17th , whenever he wins , its a magical moment.
FACTS THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT
100% agreed
I started going to a local every week a couple months ago. Been super fun and all of them great experiences. I look forward to them every Wednesday
great vid as always
Melee is the main character of competitive fighting games
Love the thumbnail and the video.
love your vids man
Red Marth is the protagonist of Melee. It's always been this way and is in no way connected to whoever is playing him. Zain-shmain, Ken-shmen, it's just Marth. Red Marth.
Amazing video ❤
This video was excellent, very well done!
I think Cody is the current protagonist for me with Zain, Jmook and moky being the main recurring rivals, people like mang0 and Hbox being the loved old protagonists who take a more reserved role this time and Plup and Leffen who attend nothing until they randomly pop up and just place well more the villains for me.
Cody beating Plup in TBH11 final was the best outcome for me tbh not because i dislike Plup but rather because he stood for everything i was against everything he stood for at this moment (bracket luck and getting rewarded for barely entering) while Cody was the opposite.
Everyone has a other perspective on the game that make them cheer for and against certain people and i think that makes this wide selection of interesting top players so great in Melee.
Excellent video m8.
Love the melee content, keep it up homie :)
Such a great video
the PMD music in the outro turned this from a good video to an amazing video.
What’s the name because I’ve been looking for it a bit
@@lunarumbreon7699 th-cam.com/video/mH_Zl2Rgl5M/w-d-xo.html it's soooooooooooooooo good
Ive wanted to write something for a while about melee (and specator sports in general) and appliying storylineq to reality, i think its really interestong
WAS THAT CHURCHINGTON?!
Fantastic video.
Do you have a playlist of all the sounds played in the video?
this inspires me so much i might buy a gamecube and melee. i dont have money though so maybe when i start working.
There are many protagonists in melee. Whoever is THE protagonist usually depends on what genre you're going for and what part of melee you're looking at.
Pretty well made video ngl
my picks:
amsa is a protagonist if the anime is a shonen. hbox is a protagonist if the anime is a comedy
PPMD is the Seinen drama protagonist for sure.
@Saltyoven oh man I'm not into melee enough to know who ppmd is
Mango is the main character of melee, that's a fact. The only other one i would accept could be amsa, but even for that im not sure. I mean, mango litteraly defeated the top 1 world of each era, he's older as a player than anyone else and is a top 5 world every year since 2008 (with 3 differents characters), being one of the favorite player of the crowd at every major he enter. who else can be a better protagonist than him ? Nobody.
Scar is the main character
Hahahaha yes!
He writes the script
Leffen has a good case for an Accelerator like story from antagonist to protagonists for a good few years.
Why does this make me cry? :")
I'm glad there's such more melee to be played
Fr, timeless game, I know I'll be teaching my kids both how to play and the history of the scene
I really want to commentate my locals so I can build these storylines but I think people will find me cringe so I am too embarrassed to ask. This whole protagonist and storyline thing is just so cool and I want to contribute to it.
Woah cool video
that's what makes fighting games so great, really. everyone is the hero of their own story
i think melee is like an overall series universe, and every player here is a protagonist of their own side series that takes place in the same world alongside each other
I just imagine melee like Jojo in that there's several parts, each with their own protagonist.
It doesn't matter who the protagonist is, they just gotta rise up and be ready to take on Big N when they're ready to be the villain again.
Nice video.
Leffen's the villain tho, no doubt.
Leff is the Jaime Lannister of melee
One thing I am sure about is that Chaler is my melee TH-cam content protagonist
in my eyes hungrybox is the main character for so many reasons buy the thing that sticks out about him was that he was hard stuck great but not the top player and everybody would be disrespectful to him, but he fought through it and became the best player for some years
also he's the only one who's popoffs are the most meme'd on
What is the song starting at 10:44? :)
nice vid
"Don't Ever Forget" from Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky
@@FirstLast-mn4re thx!
Mang0 isn't even my favorite player of all time, but he is and always will be the protagonist. C'mon now. The way the crowd still gets hype for mango ain't like any other player. It's not even a debate tbh. Come back to competitive now PP, plz 😢
Nah, aMSa is the protagonist
Hbox and Mango are 10000000 percent the protagonists rn
Amsa has had literal character arcs and the grind to be a god with just Yoshi. The true goat imo
@@bongibot1104you can argue mango and hbox both had character arcs, hell they might even have more character arcs just due to how long they’ve been playing the game. Their ride to the top, the god era and the rise of the new generation and then trying to maintain their relevance.
I think melee is cool because everyone can be seen as a protagonist because everyone is on their personal journeys that live in an ever shifting scene
@@prl4122 ye fair. I'm a little biased to Amsa haha
I'd more call Amsa THE ensemble darkhorse across the melee multiverse. The character who has among the most compelling character arcs in the story, but not enough focus is on them to qualify as a main character
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Song at the end?
pete weber in a melee video, my guy!
No mention of Axe though?
Be honest, you watched the Jacob Geller darkest zelda game video and were heavily inspired stylistically. (No shade, just noticed lol)
Heartbroken and betrayed that you didn't list Leffen's struggles against... uh... Leffen... as the greatest protagonist in melee
Maybe the real protagonists were the friends we 4stocked along the way
Idk who the current protag is now, but it certainly doesn't feel like its IBDW rn. Big House is usually the biggest, most hype tourney, but even though he went on a historic run, the win or he himself just doesn't translate to hype, or attracts attention or evoke emotion the way literally any other top 10 player would. The tourney didn't tap into the magic that a super major usually carries. He's not particularly charasmatic, and his play style is extremely bread n butter to the point he feels like the Fox equivalent of Hbox. Cody ain't a protag, or at least doesn't feel like one.
I do really like the message at the end of the video and do agree with it, but also I'm a horrible nerd on the internet and as such feel compelled to answer who I think gives off the biggest main character vibes atm, and honestly I've gotta give it to cody. like, all time mang0 has the biggest main character vibes, but last year he had a ton of shit thrown at him all year, and then to top it off he list his org. then, beginning of this year he's looking pretty good, and then his org implodes again, and he can't find a new one because esports is fucked. and despite it all he just claws his way through, without a team for basically the entire year, and is one of the 2 best players in the world despite everything seeming to be against him (including fucking cancer). like, cody is legitimately fucking incredible and anyone saying that melee doesn't have good storylines is just admitting that they haven't been paying attention
Saints and smashers mentioned instant favorite.
The thing is, we're thinking about this all wrong. The real protagonist of melee is Kirby.
I feel like basically any top player other than leffen 😂 everyone’s so nice
The thumbnail changed
Where is the song at 12:45 from?
the protagonist is you, the viewer
10:43 anyone knows the song in the background?
Its mango discussion ended
10:26 could someone tell me the name of the song playing un the background? Thanks in advance
In the final
@@man-ku1pc thanks bro
next main char is bobby big ballz.
He’s gone lmfao
@@SRM13 thats the joke dipshit 🙄
The lack of parody in melee is what made it great .I stopped watching for 2 years and came back…. Just to see the DUDES still ducking it out. It was like I never left… I like this new crop but you can’t beat the five gods Era.
don’t you think this video is a little too close to jacob geller’s “every zelda is the darkest zelda?” the narrative and editing is, uh, exactly the same.
It was so obviously mango from like 07-2021
why you changed thumbnail?
Yeah, this conversation is entirely redundant in the same way that the GOAT is. This isn't a sport like Hockey, with one undeniable GOAT - we don't have any one person that truly can be called the GOAT. Naming Mango the GOAT felt more like a popularity award than anything else :/
yeah is Asma no battle
I love your videos. I love Smash.
I think I’m sick at it, but I’m probably wrong.
Been gearing up to try my hand at Xanadu, but fear that my timing may be unfortunate with Nintendos new guidelines…
Time will tell.
I'm looking forward to seeing u compete it's always great to see new competitors on the smash scene good luck 👍
Junebug's DK is the next protagonist
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I Think its absolutely criminal to not even mention HBox
its plup actually
Coney is the condiment man
Melee has an ensemble cast.
Hax is the protagonist and yall are fairweather fans, next arc is about to be insane
Is this inspired by the "every zelda is the darkest Zelda"
Ah no nevermind this is super clearly inspired by it lmao
It's HankyPanky
Amsa is the hero of our timeline
the protagonist is the girl reading this
🗿 mang0 is always the protagonist for me.
So it’s mango right
Melee is an ensemble cast.
Song? 11:56
"Don't Ever Forget" from Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky
Glad to see other F1 fans who love melee
car go fast brain happy
I think nintendo is the antagonist