Dr Guth the multiverse theory by inflation is a fascinating theory and is probably correct. I wonder if this could some how be incorporated with the holographic principle of the universe,I love following your work sir and it certainly keeps my mind wondering of the true reality of our world and beyond.
Just started reading The Infationary Universe and I cant wait to really get into this information. With the way Mr. Guth explains and provides models I'am excited to hopefully start to understand these complex concepts.
What information are you waiting for? The only information we can get from nature is about the observable universe. Everything outside of it is causally disconnected from us.
What implications would a mostly homogenous inflation field (like cosmic microwave background), with energy fluctuations leading to multiple universes, have for infinity and probability in a multiverse?
I like to think that multiverse or divergent universes that are created every time a decision is made in effect gives us infinite existence, so today you die but you don't know you died as at that moment your consciousness still exists in multiple or divergent universes. If you've ever done acid that existance seems obvious.
rubiks6 I said I like to 'think that'; I not said it's possible. However, more and more exotic ideas in physics are being suggested. And certainly in an infinite amount of universes with infinite possibilities then anything is infinitely possible as you can't have infinitely impossible if infinite universes exist. Even in this universe there are multiple me's that exist but exist in different time/space. We are just aware of the now and memory of the past but Einstein says that past space/time exists we just don't know how to get there.
rubiks6 who are the we that are wasting our mental capacities. I have no physics or mathematics background other than watching documentaries and reading science magazines. In that way I'm broadening my mind. I'm certainly not wasting my time trying to write a thesis on this subject. But thinking about or dreaming about also expands your minds.
3:29 + 3:47 (among other times): Wow! I mean, I really just don't think I could ever *_"yeah, yeah, yeah... yeah, yeah, yeah...yeah, yeah", & _"Yeah... yeah..right, hmm."_ to _Alan Guth._
The universe is just a product of nature. Nature is the very definition of our universe, it is a misunderstood yet understood thing. It is a paradox in that everything exist and nothing exist.
Guth makes a generalisation about physics, that all physics should be "propabilistic" by nature, because quantum mechanics is. However, this is not necessary, especially since there's no reason to assume quantum mechanics to be "underlying" everything. We don't know how deep levels exist in matter, if there's any limit at all. Quantum mechanics is the deepest level we have explored so far. Anyway, if we can't determine propabilities in an infinite cosmos, then we can't. Simply because it's inconvenient, we can't say that an infinite cosmos doesn't exist.
He's one of the most interesting folks to listen to. There's an infinite number of four-headed cows being born at every given instant... even if there's no now here, there, it's still some time there. I just don't think I'm a Boltzmann brain, even though it's more likely for me to be one than a regular person.
He didn't really address uncountable infinities such as the real numbers. You can't order them because they (A) have no starting point and (B) have no way to iterate to the "next" element. It's not terribly different from the situation of having an infinite number of universes that can't be sensibly ordered.
While inflation exponential expansion of universe(s), a little like web of galaxies inside universe, maybe inflation outside universe is homogenous and steady?
A correction: It's not only needed that something is possible to garante that It will occur It's also necessary that the space of possibilities being finite. In infinite possibilities universe nothing is garante yo occur
We could substitute Universe or Multiverse terminology derived from classic materialist absolutism with the actual - probabilistic, "Pi-vertices" of QM-Time distribution.
The account of two odds with an even next and two odds again... etc. is wrong (with one even and two odds) and is not the same integers with equal number of odds and evens.
Is there a universe where I am smarter than Allen or Robert? Doubtful. But… because there is a chance, it must be true given the infinite number of universes.
I guess that in an infinite number of universes where anything that can happen happens an infinite number of times, there must be an infinite number of universes that are governed by an intelligent consciousness, call it what you like, that then takes over all other universes not yet governed by consciousness an infinite number of times. Plus I’m also wondering if there’s a Disneyland universe with all the characters out there as well then, and perhaps even one where endless numbers of fully functional 747’s spontaneously pop into existence from nowhere? With an infinite number of combinations of natural laws and possibilities both the imaginable and unimaginable must occur an endless number of times. Where did Occam disappear? At least we know that intelligence and consciousness exist, and the leap to consciousness as fundamental to existence somehow seems simpler, and you can still fit all infinitely possible universes into that consciousness as thoughts, or if you prefer to call it simulations.
No, that's not even a good mathematical argument. For one thing all of these "parallel" universes are limited by some kinds of laws of nature. They may not be the same as in our part of the universe, but they are still strong limits. Hence there is never a scenario where anything can happen. It will, more or less, all be boring physics as usual. No giant flying castles for you. Even within the probability argument you are running up against the fact that number of physically allowed possibilities greatly outnumbers the number of possible universes, hence the set of actually existing universes is always a null-subset of the set of all possible universes.
@@lepidoptera9337 That’s a very Intelligent way of looking at it and I believe what you describe as a possibility. This 4 headed cow’s and anything no matter how Bazaar happens over and over is just nonsense. Ok I might be arrogant saying it but it’s your burden to prove it.
Well, we live in a universe with order, and the multiverse guth is describing is out of order, therefore it cannot be a true universe. He is describing chaos
That, too, is a random assumption. If we vary the parameters of the standard model of particle physics, then what we find is that most possible universes of this kind are simply empty. They don't produce stable matter and are completely radiation dominated. That is the opposite of random. These are (thermodynamically) highly ordered, but extremely boring universes.
I don't get why measuring probability would be important or even why we need bother (in the sort of universe discussed in the film). In fact, the concept (probability) in this context looks meaningless.
The issue I always see in this is this. If you could have an infinite amount of cows, then he is right. Not even in this universe is that possible. It is not infinite like that. Thus, if I push proportions out of context, of course there is no difference. The issue is not what would happen if nothing had limits, but rather what happens when you do. Why? Because the Universe has limits, so does time, so does everything we will even encounter in the natural world. To find a real infinity, you would be talking God. Even then, you are talking about a person that we could never have proper language for the nature of. How can you define (limit) the infinite (limitless)? Either way, I trust they know what they are doing.
Rock Roll It certainly has not; if it was, the night sky would not be mostly dark. We know beyond any reasonable doubt that there was an event about 13.8 billion years ago that was the beginning of the universe as it now exists.
The resolution is trivial: science is only required to describe what is observable. It is not required to read the theoretical tea leaves of what else could be. That's religion's "expertise". You want to believe in the unseen? Start a church and take advantage of tax savings, but don't call it "science".
Alan Guth and many a likes have been pushed to a corner where infinite multiverse is the ultimate savior (aka God) for their equations to work in this universe.
Yeah... Go read his book. Library so you don't have to waste your McDonalds lunch money, instead of making TH-cam comments read it or look up his research papers on PDF. There's more too inflation then hypothesis - the multi verse idea is a Hypothesis. His job is theoretical Science, trying to find an answer theoretical. Too proof it, data-peer review etc is needed. But it's still better then the magic man in the sky-hypothesis.
What you observe is only the processing of information. It's possible the programmers of the simulation we're involved in can make the universe infinite in the number of objects observed.
Science does not as who, it asks how & why. Science will never address such a topic beyond phenomena. Even then, they would just leave it as unknown if the event did not fit any scrutable natural law. You want to find God, Theology, History, & Philosophy is where you need look.
In an infinite universe is there a version of this video where the camera doesn't keep moving around in a distracting manner?
It seems you have solved all problems of Sun Blackhole.
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I really appreciate the interviewer
We could live forever and still not know everything. That, to me, is what makes it all wonderful. Thank you Alan.
Dr Guth the multiverse theory by inflation is a fascinating theory and is probably correct. I wonder if this could some how be incorporated with the holographic principle of the universe,I love following your work sir and it certainly keeps my mind wondering of the true reality of our world and beyond.
Alan is the best
Alan Guth looks a bit like John Denver.
He probably is ....remember in the Multiverse Alan Guth can be John Denver an infinite number of times
Haha yes almost like John Denver + Stephen King
physicists should avoid the word "believe" altogether
Just started reading The Infationary Universe and I cant wait to really get into this information. With the way Mr. Guth explains and provides models I'am excited to hopefully start to understand these complex concepts.
What information are you waiting for? The only information we can get from nature is about the observable universe. Everything outside of it is causally disconnected from us.
So much to learn but difficult to understand cosmos. Nice come back for experiments to work with. Like this.
What’s wrong with the audio?
Good job Alan in promoting the Templeton Foundation mission.
To me the thought that whatever conditions or event started this universe only happened to create this universe seems more unlikely than a multiverse
What implications would a mostly homogenous inflation field (like cosmic microwave background), with energy fluctuations leading to multiple universes, have for infinity and probability in a multiverse?
I like to think that multiverse or divergent universes that are created every time a decision is made in effect gives us infinite existence, so today you die but you don't know you died as at that moment your consciousness still exists in multiple or divergent universes. If you've ever done acid that existance seems obvious.
rubiks6 I said I like to 'think that'; I not said it's possible. However, more and more exotic ideas in physics are being suggested. And certainly in an infinite amount of universes with infinite possibilities then anything is infinitely possible as you can't have infinitely impossible if infinite universes exist.
Even in this universe there are multiple me's that exist but exist in different time/space. We are just aware of the now and memory of the past but Einstein says that past space/time exists we just don't know how to get there.
rubiks6 who are the we that are wasting our mental capacities. I have no physics or mathematics background other than watching documentaries and reading science magazines. In that way I'm broadening my mind. I'm certainly not wasting my time trying to write a thesis on this subject. But thinking about or dreaming about also expands your minds.
Can the inflation field be infinite, with multiple universes finite in the inflation field?
Inflation field has probability like quantum field?
What might time be like in inflation field?
Apparently probability is the most important science field
These ideas make theology like like sound engineering. Science is not led by mathematics, just some scientists.
3:29 + 3:47 (among other times):
Wow! I mean, I really just don't think I could ever *_"yeah, yeah, yeah... yeah, yeah, yeah...yeah, yeah", & _"Yeah... yeah..right, hmm."_ to _Alan Guth._
The blurry fade in pisses me off so much
The universe is just a product of nature. Nature is the very definition of our universe, it is a misunderstood yet understood thing. It is a paradox in that everything exist and nothing exist.
Guth makes a generalisation about physics, that all physics should be "propabilistic" by nature, because quantum mechanics is. However, this is not necessary, especially since there's no reason to assume quantum mechanics to be "underlying" everything. We don't know how deep levels exist in matter, if there's any limit at all. Quantum mechanics is the deepest level we have explored so far. Anyway, if we can't determine propabilities in an infinite cosmos, then we can't. Simply because it's inconvenient, we can't say that an infinite cosmos doesn't exist.
He's one of the most interesting folks to listen to. There's an infinite number of four-headed cows being born at every given instant... even if there's no now here, there, it's still some time there. I just don't think I'm a Boltzmann brain, even though it's more likely for me to be one than a regular person.
Do quantum fields develop from inflation?
He didn't really address uncountable infinities such as the real numbers. You can't order them because they (A) have no starting point and (B) have no way to iterate to the "next" element. It's not terribly different from the situation of having an infinite number of universes that can't be sensibly ordered.
While inflation exponential expansion of universe(s), a little like web of galaxies inside universe, maybe inflation outside universe is homogenous and steady?
Never had any training in physics nor cosmology here, but I think I'll go out on a limb and say this stuff is absolute nonsense.
A correction: It's not only needed that something is possible to garante that It will occur It's also necessary that the space of possibilities being finite. In infinite possibilities universe nothing is garante yo occur
He sounds wise
We could substitute Universe or Multiverse terminology derived from classic materialist absolutism with the actual - probabilistic, "Pi-vertices" of QM-Time distribution.
The account of two odds with an even next and two odds again... etc. is wrong (with one even and two odds) and is not the same integers with equal number of odds and evens.
he looks like clark kent
Is there a universe where I am smarter than Allen or Robert? Doubtful. But… because there is a chance, it must be true given the infinite number of universes.
Not infinity, fractal probability distribution.
Is way of selecting integer is bayous that is the reason he get 2/3 there is no sorcery there.
I guess that in an infinite number of universes where anything that can happen happens an infinite number of times, there must be an infinite number of universes that are governed by an intelligent consciousness, call it what you like, that then takes over all other universes not yet governed by consciousness an infinite number of times. Plus I’m also wondering if there’s a Disneyland universe with all the characters out there as well then, and perhaps even one where endless numbers of fully functional 747’s spontaneously pop into existence from nowhere? With an infinite number of combinations of natural laws and possibilities both the imaginable and unimaginable must occur an endless number of times. Where did Occam disappear? At least we know that intelligence and consciousness exist, and the leap to consciousness as fundamental to existence somehow seems simpler, and you can still fit all infinitely possible universes into that consciousness as thoughts, or if you prefer to call it simulations.
No, that's not even a good mathematical argument. For one thing all of these "parallel" universes are limited by some kinds of laws of nature. They may not be the same as in our part of the universe, but they are still strong limits. Hence there is never a scenario where anything can happen. It will, more or less, all be boring physics as usual. No giant flying castles for you. Even within the probability argument you are running up against the fact that number of physically allowed possibilities greatly outnumbers the number of possible universes, hence the set of actually existing universes is always a null-subset of the set of all possible universes.
@@lepidoptera9337 That’s a very Intelligent way of looking at it and I believe what you describe as a possibility. This 4 headed cow’s and anything no matter how Bazaar happens over and over is just nonsense. Ok I might be arrogant saying it but it’s your burden to prove it.
Well, we live in a universe with order, and the multiverse guth is describing is out of order, therefore it cannot be a true universe. He is describing chaos
That, too, is a random assumption. If we vary the parameters of the standard model of particle physics, then what we find is that most possible universes of this kind are simply empty. They don't produce stable matter and are completely radiation dominated. That is the opposite of random. These are (thermodynamically) highly ordered, but extremely boring universes.
How do you know the Universe is large? Maybe it's small...? Large is not an objective category.
I don't get why measuring probability would be important or even why we need bother (in the sort of universe discussed in the film). In fact, the concept (probability) in this context looks meaningless.
You limit infinites and then compare.
Has anyone theorized about the possible relationship between a multiverse model and entanglement? Asking for a dead friend.
The issue I always see in this is this. If you could have an infinite amount of cows, then he is right. Not even in this universe is that possible. It is not infinite like that. Thus, if I push proportions out of context, of course there is no difference. The issue is not what would happen if nothing had limits, but rather what happens when you do. Why? Because the Universe has limits, so does time, so does everything we will even encounter in the natural world. To find a real infinity, you would be talking God. Even then, you are talking about a person that we could never have proper language for the nature of. How can you define (limit) the infinite (limitless)?
Either way, I trust they know what they are doing.
Good pointless babble
Infinite number of four headed cow? OK. Infinite number of Michelangelo's David, Pieta, Sistine Chapel, Hamlet? If you say so.
Clark Kent
Christopher Reeves
World war an infinite number of times..omg .
isolated maths divorced from reality indulge in these fantasies with abandon. insane, and they take themselves seriously.
The universe as we know it has always been.
Rock Roll It certainly has not; if it was, the night sky would not be mostly dark. We know beyond any reasonable doubt that there was an event about 13.8 billion years ago that was the beginning of the universe as it now exists.
No. That is relying on lot of assumptions.
It's seems like science is moving into the realm of religion or philosophy
It had to. As it did when it first started. Because science can't answer everything.
The resolution is trivial: science is only required to describe what is observable. It is not required to read the theoretical tea leaves of what else could be. That's religion's "expertise". You want to believe in the unseen? Start a church and take advantage of tax savings, but don't call it "science".
Alan Guth and many a likes have been pushed to a corner where infinite multiverse is the ultimate savior (aka God) for their equations to work in this universe.
all you got to know about this stuff is how to make up BS stories, and make people believe you are smart
Yeah... Go read his book. Library so you don't have to waste your McDonalds lunch money, instead of making TH-cam comments read it or look up his research papers on PDF. There's more too inflation then hypothesis - the multi verse idea is a Hypothesis. His job is theoretical Science, trying to find an answer theoretical. Too proof it, data-peer review etc is needed.
But it's still better then the magic man in the sky-hypothesis.
What you observe is only the processing of information. It's possible the programmers of the simulation we're involved in can make the universe infinite in the number of objects observed.
These two guy are getting old.
Propabilities for the obeservers, not for the Creator.
But there are no observations of a creator.
That sort of mindless noise doesn't impress people with any smarts at all.
Science does not as who, it asks how & why. Science will never address such a topic beyond phenomena. Even then, they would just leave it as unknown if the event did not fit any scrutable natural law. You want to find God, Theology, History, & Philosophy is where you need look.
So no freewill? I agree.
美しく燃える森 we choose our actions as freewill, but there is a "if" but once the action is done "if" is option in another universe.
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