Garnt has told a story exactly like this before, but it was just the two large pastas, and no pizza as a starter. From this I think can assume that in one year he will tell this story again, but this time he will order that dessert.
Did he actually? I was thinking it was similar to the ramen one, where they order and it ends up being too much. Do you maybe know which episode the large pasta is in?
McDonalds in Germany and Austria can even taste different within the same country, as the restaurants are allowed to adjust salt and pepper levels depending on the regions.
100% Even within 1-5km distance, you can have VASTLY different experiences if the restaurant manager is different. I had this happen with the burger king and the kfc at the cologne main station and then on a location within 5km of that. Both (from the main station) were a lot more saltier (= makes you thirsty, „buy another drink“) and the burger king sauce was straight up nastier in more ways than just the saltiness.
That's not uncommon in the States either. Franchised restaurant chains aren't as standardized as you'd think, despite that supposedly being selling point.
@@furkadurka not sure what you mean but like their first three or so episodes of trash taste already had them talked about things they disliked in japan. Other parts from different episodes can be Garnt getting trolled by the bank and stuff. Them complaining about japan has always been around
It's especially funny cause a traditional Italian meal is 7 courses. It's not like Italians have baby stomachs either, a small Italian meal is a paradox.
@@irissupercoolsy and thats where youre wrong, pizza is a substitute for a whole meal, meant to take less time but fill as much as a whole course. A meal here is usually (and i mean at a restpurant couae at home youre gonna be filled with just one of these) some snacks, a plate of some type of pasta, some kind of meat or fish, a side of some type of salad, then usually some cheese usually served with wine and sometimes with honey, and to finish everything at the end the servers will ask you if you want a coffee and a piece of some kind of cake. So technically pizza is a small dish here lol
@@Cla_ClakWell, the 7 courses are actually a bit deceptive, cause two of those courses are usually drinks. Still though, five of those courses being food is still a lot. And that's pretty much reserved for dinner.
I think one of the reasons Japan serves small portions is because they don’t want people ordering a shit ton, barely finishing it, and basically waste the food. I saw a Japanese restaurant confront two customers who ordered a lot of meat and barely ate it all. They were kicked out for many reasons too.
@@alihorda I think some places in Japan don't allow you to take you your food, might be a food poisoning thing with sushi or something. Also might be cultural diff idk
I think the reason why, even though he's essentially Japanese but doesn't get why the waiters are confused at this sort of interaction is... Well, Joey is fluent in both Japanese and English. It's pretty easy to imagine the waitress in the story going "wait, is the order correct? Am I misunderstanding something? Did they misspeak in Japanese?" Just because A) Garnt and Sydney are foreigners and B) they made an unusual order. For Joey, something like this could never happen because he'd just ask in English to confirm what they mean, the waitress probably has to just depend on the fact that, yes, Garnt and Sydney AREN'T misspeaking or misinterpreting what they wanted to order. Add to that the fact that this waitress maybe doesn't know a lot of foreigners and you have a prime recipe for miscommunication.
I think that's part of it, but Joey would have gotten the same weird look if he did the same thing, even if he spoke in Japanese, because the order is unusual.
If you order a coffee while having lunch IN Italy the waiter will 100% ask you over and over if you're sure. It is extremely weird to have a coffee before the end of the meal there as well
It's wierd in Sweden too. Who has their coffee before or during the meal? In fancy restaurants the waiter even ask you after the meal if you want coffee.
Same here in France. Spirits, beer and softs with appetizers, wine with the meal (entree, main), coffee/tea with or after dessert, digestives after desert. That stands for traditional restaurants, for bars/pubs you can mix things up a bit more depending on the place. Pretty much anywhere you go they'll ask you if you want coffee after your meal
For the people having de ja vu, garnt did have a similar order before. I think it was when he and Sydney ordered huge ramens and couldnt finish it or something like that
I think they definitely did it before with Italian as well. I remember around the same time there was also like a clip of Sydney telling Garnt she wanted Italian and her tweeting about garlic or something too around the same time. Unless I'm completely fooling myself into the deja vu lol
My Dad went to Japan when I was a kid. While out to eat he asked for some butter on the side with his potatoes. You'd think he'd asked to piss on their shoes.
That's why I love going to Mexican and Filipino parties. Huge amount of food and nobody will judge you if they did you can just say "Shut up or I tell Lola that you're starving me to death."
Judge you? In my experience with Mexican parties you WILL be fed 3 times the amount of food any sane person could eat as well as constantly offered beer or shots. Hell my boy Angel's son turned 3 recently and they had 5 kegs 6 bottles of tequila 3 whole pigs and enough tamales to feed all of Russia. I don't think I ever had a free hand, If someone saw me without food in one hand and drink in the other I was immediately restocked.
Plus you have to ask for seconds of that three person meal and make sure that you have salsa on the plate or you’ll get called a wimp and the persons who made the food will be irritated
@@sayantanmazumdar3 no it's not lol, Lived in Mexico for half my life and no, you don't have to pig out all the time, you may be served alot but if you don't eat it well you just don't eat it, nobody will care
Don't know if this pertains to Japan as well, but in South Korea, we are taught in schools that drinking in the middle of your meal isn't healthy for you, so children usually have to drink water only after the meal. That kinda thing translated to where resturaunts will give you the drink only after the meal.
Here in Sweden, coffee usually comes after the meal. This is regardless when the meal is but I doubt it would be an issue to get the coffee immediately if you so choose. In reference to the Domino pizza in Italy, Starbucks in Sweden is doing quite poorly since we have such an established culture of having good coffee shops already they are having a hard time getting in here. Coffee is king here! :)
I guess there's coffee and "coffee". If it's a mug of brown liquid that vaguely smells of burnt beans, I guess it's best to bring it before the meal. If it's a cup of good coffee, I'd definitely want that after the meal, especially if I go for the dessert. The only time I can see myself ordering coffee before/with the meal is breakfast.
I always order cold drinks for meals. I don't like to eat and drink hot things simultaneously, I drink slowly and eat slower, I like tea hot and hate food cold, so this is what I do. I can understand and appreciate asking what time I'd like what drink at, alcohol before, hot tea after.
I order drink to swallow stuff much better... my mouth dries up like a bitch, my eating speed slows significantly if no drinks... worse if the chicken taste like rubber and dry like bacon...
In Italy coffee is an after meal drink too, only American and English tourists drink coffee during the meal, to the horror of every Italian in the restaurant
I think it depends-my mom was born and raised in America from German immigrants, but she takes her coffee after her meal and so do I. It’s a lovely little way to end a good meal, in my opinion. 🤷🏼♀️
The first day I was in Japan I thought I was buying a chicken burger from a shop but it turned out to be deep fried shrimp burger. It was still good but that first bite was the most shocking thing I’ve ever tasted
It’s ALWAYS a fight with my local pizza place in Japan to get them to understand that my friend and I are BOTH ordering a pizza. Lol 😂 We order one and they think we are done and walk away haha
In Spain we never have coffee or tea with a meal (unless it's breakfast, obviously), it's always after the meal. So if you tried to order that here, waiters would definitely give you a weird look and, like Joey said, confirm they understood you correctly. It's not weird to order coffee or tea after dinner, though. I mean, now that I think about it, I guess if you were having lunch at Starbucks, yeah, you can order your drink with your food and it's perfectly fine. Otherwise, it would be weird. So I suppose we that that in common with Japanese people.
I was going to say the same thing, having a hot drink, be it coffee or tea, with your meal here in Spain would indeed be considered really weird and a waiter would also give you a strange look if you asked for it.
I have met some people who would have coffee or tea during dinner here in Brazil, but usually their dinners would be something like soup, a sandwich or something that people usually eat on breakfast, and most of them were older people too. I never met anyone drinking coffee or tea during lunch though. Also, I think most ofthe time I saw people having coffee or tea during dinner happened when they were having dinner earlier like 6pm, but I don't think I saw many people doing that of they were having dinner at like 8pm, specially with coffee
In having deja vu reading this comment. I could've sworn I saw it several times on the podcast episode comments section, as well as several times on this one video
Actually in Algeria and some Arab and African countries, they bring refreshing drinks first automatically and the hot drinks they bring it at the end with deserts or sometimes after deserts if that's what you want, some people drink coffee and tea as an after, like some infusions, it's great for digestion...etc So no worries, it's not Japan only haha~!
Here in Portugal our coffee is expresso and its majorly drank after a main meal. The only exception is at breakfast with some toast or pastel de nata which some people sip on it while eating or in between meals where people do the same with a snack, usually a pastry.
Italian here, the first American chain restaurant in my city was a Pizza Hut, we don't have those anymore now, but we have plenty of mcDonalds, KFC and Burger Kings. Never seen an Olive Garden in my entire life
It's also very weird to drink coffee in the middle of dinner or any other meals in Portugal. I enjoy drinking milk with coffee or just coffee in meals and everyone tells me it's gonna fuck up my stomach. Maybe that's why
@Yoshe Plays I have never seem or heard about drinking coffee with something besides a pastry, i guess it could be because here in Brazil coffee is always very strong
Ok as an american, there is plenty of stuff I know we get wrong, but I am proud of our big or go home style of food. Makes me feel like a big boi with attitude.... the good kind.
They 100% ask if you want coffee after meal in Finland as well. (In the very few places where you dont just go pick up the coffee after lunch yourself)
I guess there's some unspoken etiquette to eating in restaurants on Japan. Other places have arbitrary rules like that too. When I was in Italy, my language class had a chapter on "eating at the restaurant" instructing us on which types of specialty coffee we could (should) order in late evening after a meal and evidently lattes with a dessert was a no-go cuz I got looked at weirdly by a waiter who said "are you sure??" in an incredulous tone.
When I worked at an Inn serving dinner in Vermont, Coffee was always last - after desert (along with mints). It was always Hor D'Oeuvres, Soup, Salad, main, dessert, then coffee (wine that was pre-purchased by the customer(s) were served with the meal). So maybe it was that tradition the Japanese restaurants followed?
8:56 I didn’t think was just an American thing but, coffee is almost ALWAYS served AFTER the dinner and often times served with desert. Coffee is the only drink this is applicable for. Keep in mind this is for restaurants with proper courses, not like a diner or fast food or something.
This conversation reminds me of the time I ordered 2 large drinks in Tokyo as I was super dehydrated (From previous experiences in Asian countries I already knew that free refills are not the norm), and the waiter confirming me if that's what I wanted.
In Pakistan tea/coffee is consumed with breakfast/after breakfast and the 2nd cup is consumed with snacks at 4-5PM after lunch break. 3rd cup is sometimes consumed after dinner but that's 30min to 2 hours later. Hot beverages are never consumed with food or before food.
Would disagree with that We usually get coffee first in Germany, Hungary, Ukraine and other european countries without even asking. They just bring it first
In Mexico, drinks always are served during the meal; personally, however, I like to drink three quarters of it during the meal and the other quarter to wash out the taste of leftover food, so I can kinda understand an after meal drink. I still feel a whole drink afterwards is weird, though I have seen some people drink both during and after.
The coffee thing is that most countries - especially Latino countries and that includes Italy, France, Spain and Portugal - don't make see-through coffee like Americans and Brits do. We like our coffee to be strong, so all our coffee is what you guys would call an "espresso" coffee. And when you're having a meal you want to drink a reasonable amount, like 300 ml. And having 300 ml of expresso with your food will only make your food taste only of coffee, hence it being served after the meal. I believe the Japanese ended up assimilating that habit due to contact with the Portuguese centuries ago.
In my family, my dad would always make coffee for everyone after dinner as something to relax with while we chat. Any other meal I understand having it at the same time/before, but for dinner it stands out to me as weird if it *isn't* served afterwards
In St. Louis there is a set of sushi restaurants where they have all you can eat sushi but after you order it, any stuff you don’t eat they charge you for
Just to explain a bit the Domino's Pizza situation here in Italy. Let's imagine you want a burger, and there's already so many places to eat a burger at. And then this food chain from oversea opens up. They have hit or miss burgers that aren't that good, they are a bit more expensive than any other place, and it takes forever to cook and bring a pizza to you. It's not just that it wasn't as good as every other pizzeria here in Italy, it's that there always were so many better option (and about the hit or miss thing, i went to domino's like 13 times, and only 2 times it was actually decent enough, every other time it was nothing but oil on raw dough and cheese).
tbf, drinking coffee DURING a meal would be seen as incredibly weird her in italy and some restaurants will even refuse to serve coffee until after the meal
where im from, coffee is normally served after finishing the meal. whereas beer, water, soda etc, is served with meal. coffee is sorta like desert to enjoy for digestion and spent talking with others on the table.
0:19 I would deffinetally watch an actial A.I. generated Trash Taste conversation. It's duable. The episodes are online, the transcript is online, the A.I. models are online. There are being created similar things before. For me a simple text would be enougth, but i think when somebody douing it he will replicateing the voice because it's not that of a bigger step to generate that also.
When /if I order coffee (United States) during lunch or dinner, the server will usually ask WHEN I want the coffee, because coffee is usually after a meal. However, during a breakfast, they won't ask because people will usually drink their coffee with their meal.
In Spain the coffee is an after meal too. If you want a drink with the meal, you order coca-cola, water, wine or stuff like that, but not coffee. I've never seen anyone eating with coffee
Ordering coffee BEFORE your meal? I’ve never heard of anyone doing that. In France, you have it with your breakfast, but any other meal it’s only drunk after.
To be fair to Japanese restaurants, especially fast food ones, a rice refill or upgrading to larger portion of rice for your meal usually doesn’t cost extra.
Because of being Celia & allergic to dairy it is really rare that I have desserts because the UK Gluten free & none dairy desserts are just bad But when we go out none of our group will have starters because they LOVE pudding so I would always sit & watch them Then I thought shove this & started ordering Starters after the meal as pudding My friends hated this & said it was weird but then another friend started coming every week & she doesn’t like puddings & always did the same as me Starter for pudding hahaha It does make the restaurant go into a freak out spin hahahaha
For coffee I think in mediterranean countries is the same? At least in Spain we consider coffee an after meal drink. We don't drink it with the main course, we drink it with the dessert
When I visited Japan this past New Years. We went to an Italian chef ran restaurant in Atami. The portion sizes were small but the food was so good. I ordered 3 plates. Spaghetti Bolognese, Basil Pesto, and Lasagna. The Chef made a joke about me eating his arm next and we all laughed. Best Italian I've ever had.
Personally, I have never seen anyone order a hot coffe during a meal here in the US. Restaurants that are not franchises usually ask you if you want a coffe after the meal.
Going to dinner with my mates from college and then tea+milk+sugar afterwards was so good back in the day. And so cheap around uni-campus damn I miss those days 😢
Tbh in Spain we also get a small coffee after lunch, either with or after the dessert, so the thought of drinking coffee during the actual lunch feels kinda wrong
In Romania the drink doesn't come first lol. At least in my family, its super strange to have ur meal with coffee, especially when its something like borsch. The drinks always comes last unless its like a champagne party or something
Garn, pizzas in Estonia are the same: for them, a normal sized pizza is what everyone would call a small pizza, and that's supposed to be for two people. Sure, no one needs a 1-meter-wide pizza as you can get in the US, but at least 8 slices for a medium pizza would be expected.
As someone who works in the food service industry. I recognize it a lot especially in younger people working at a McDonalds or something. You know that technically something could be done differently but simple. Yet, can visibly see their cogs stutter from the overload. They’ve spent so much time memorizing or getting into the script and motions of daily norms. They’re jarred by differences. Sometimes I get this way and will correct but just once, put their order in and send them on their merry way. Maybe its anxiety or routine putting them in false sense of security?…..something?😂
Absolutely true the part at the end about McDonald’s in the US being terrible. As an American, I’m excited to try McDonald’s in Japan the first time that I go this year.
You get similar reactions in the US is you ask for only the burger (no fries or drink), or no cheese… or no ice when it’s freezing outside… why do I need a cup full of ice?
About the coffee alongside food ... Well, here in Brazil it would be weird. Joey's account is accurate about the timing of ordering coffee with a meal.
Once, at a Japanese restaurant, for dessert, I used my Elite Nihong Skillz to order two servings of takoyaki, instead of taiyaki. Granted, I was a few jars of sake in. But I've never felt so much shame as when she brought the squidballs, and I was like, no no no no no! And pointed to the sweet fish-shaped cake picture. "Oh! You mean TAIYAKI. Not TAKOYAKI." She said loud enough for everyone around to hear. Everyone laughed. I just covered my face in shame. Head on table. She took away the squidballs and came back with the sweet fish cakes. I ate mine with the salty tears of my shame mixing with the sweet red bean paste flavour.
Love how you go to a restaurant and the waitresses are shocked that you order lots of food. Of course I'm going to order a lot of food if I'm in a RESTAURANT. If I wasn't going to order a lot of food then I wouldn't even be here, I'd probably just cook something up in my kitchen or something similar
I went to some nutritionists in my life and this is real, it is recommended for you to drink only AFTER or BEFORE the meals, not during it, because of healthy issues, it seems that if you dink while eating solid food you don't absorb optimally the nutrients on the food neither drink and all goes to shit, and it tends also to store more fat.
Nah, I call bullshit. Sounds like some cable news popsci, all of the nutrients your body absorbs from your food are from a nasty soupy slurry in your small intestine, drinking a lemonade at the same time as your burger isn't gonna change anything.
Garnt has told a story exactly like this before, but it was just the two large pastas, and no pizza as a starter.
From this I think can assume that in one year he will tell this story again, but this time he will order that dessert.
I thought I was going crazy as he was telling his story. He told it the same exact way minus the pizza starter detail.
I'm just assuming he went to the restaurant twice now.
Did he actually? I was thinking it was similar to the ramen one, where they order and it ends up being too much. Do you maybe know which episode the large pasta is in?
@@GhostDragon934 yeah he told that and they were confused bc a large pasta is for 2 people
it really was an A.I-generated story, they do really tell same or similar stories frequently, main reason i stopped watching
"Shit son, you want some fucking dessert with that!?" Imagining a Japanese waitress saying these words in a polite tone would be so fucking funny.
They need to start doing that. Create the situations and film them but use the podcast audio.
Go to a maid cafe and pay them to do it. Or better yet ... Health delivery
McDonalds in Germany and Austria can even taste different within the same country, as the restaurants are allowed to adjust salt and pepper levels depending on the regions.
100%
Even within 1-5km distance, you can have VASTLY different experiences if the restaurant manager is different. I had this happen with the burger king and the kfc at the cologne main station and then on a location within 5km of that.
Both (from the main station) were a lot more saltier (= makes you thirsty, „buy another drink“) and the burger king sauce was straight up nastier in more ways than just the saltiness.
Time to go to Germany and Austria for McDonald’s tasting of every venue
That's not uncommon in the States either. Franchised restaurant chains aren't as standardized as you'd think, despite that supposedly being selling point.
I like after travelling to America the roles are now reversed where the bois are complaining about Japan xD
Perfectly balanced as all things should be
Went from Japan the best, to yo wtf Japan real quick
Lol haven't they always complained about japan in past episodes though
@@whitecoffee05 could it be due to not have been to America before?
@@furkadurka not sure what you mean but like their first three or so episodes of trash taste already had them talked about things they disliked in japan. Other parts from different episodes can be Garnt getting trolled by the bank and stuff. Them complaining about japan has always been around
It's especially funny cause a traditional Italian meal is 7 courses. It's not like Italians have baby stomachs either, a small Italian meal is a paradox.
I was just thinking that!! Pizza is often not the main dish.
@@irissupercoolsy and thats where youre wrong, pizza is a substitute for a whole meal, meant to take less time but fill as much as a whole course. A meal here is usually (and i mean at a restpurant couae at home youre gonna be filled with just one of these) some snacks, a plate of some type of pasta, some kind of meat or fish, a side of some type of salad, then usually some cheese usually served with wine and sometimes with honey, and to finish everything at the end the servers will ask you if you want a coffee and a piece of some kind of cake. So technically pizza is a small dish here lol
traditional? maybe...??? definitely not the norm though...who the hell has a 7 course meal on a regular day
@@tunderstorm2769 ah okay
@@Cla_ClakWell, the 7 courses are actually a bit deceptive, cause two of those courses are usually drinks. Still though, five of those courses being food is still a lot. And that's pretty much reserved for dinner.
They say AI generated but i think i have literally heard the story of Garnt and Sydney destroying a Japanese meal and being judged for it
Must have been during the Genshin streams.
Pretty sure Garnt told it in his stream because I also remember it
yeah they ordered a family sized pasta and was told its a big order
Yeah he talked about this on one of his Genshin streams
Guys, I haven't seen any of Garnt's streams, but I'm sure I've heard this too. He may have mentioned it on Trash Taste before
Imagine asking the waiter at a Japanese restaurant for a relatively obscure condiment and they straight up call the cops
'What are you in for?'
'The waitress couldn't pronounce Worchestershire Sauce'
I think one of the reasons Japan serves small portions is because they don’t want people ordering a shit ton, barely finishing it, and basically waste the food. I saw a Japanese restaurant confront two customers who ordered a lot of meat and barely ate it all. They were kicked out for many reasons too.
That would explain why the waitresses were so anxious
I'd make it a problem if they don't bring the food home
they could have just asked to pack it.. kicking them out for this is just disrespectful and unprofessional
@@alihorda in Japan, not eating all the food is really bad manners, is not unprofessional there doing something like that
@@alihorda I think some places in Japan don't allow you to take you your food, might be a food poisoning thing with sushi or something. Also might be cultural diff idk
I think the reason why, even though he's essentially Japanese but doesn't get why the waiters are confused at this sort of interaction is... Well, Joey is fluent in both Japanese and English.
It's pretty easy to imagine the waitress in the story going "wait, is the order correct? Am I misunderstanding something? Did they misspeak in Japanese?" Just because A) Garnt and Sydney are foreigners and B) they made an unusual order.
For Joey, something like this could never happen because he'd just ask in English to confirm what they mean, the waitress probably has to just depend on the fact that, yes, Garnt and Sydney AREN'T misspeaking or misinterpreting what they wanted to order.
Add to that the fact that this waitress maybe doesn't know a lot of foreigners and you have a prime recipe for miscommunication.
I think that's part of it, but Joey would have gotten the same weird look if he did the same thing, even if he spoke in Japanese, because the order is unusual.
good point!
If you order a coffee while having lunch IN Italy the waiter will 100% ask you over and over if you're sure. It is extremely weird to have a coffee before the end of the meal there as well
It's wierd in Sweden too. Who has their coffee before or during the meal? In fancy restaurants the waiter even ask you after the meal if you want coffee.
Same here in France. Spirits, beer and softs with appetizers, wine with the meal (entree, main), coffee/tea with or after dessert, digestives after desert.
That stands for traditional restaurants, for bars/pubs you can mix things up a bit more depending on the place.
Pretty much anywhere you go they'll ask you if you want coffee after your meal
same in australia!! no one has coffee w main meal!! rarely anyway!!
That happens everywhere
In Spain too, I think it's an American thing
Here in Brazil coffee normally is also a after meal thing. For me is little weird drinking it during meals but I think it's more of a cultural thing.
For the people having de ja vu, garnt did have a similar order before. I think it was when he and Sydney ordered huge ramens and couldnt finish it or something like that
I think they definitely did it before with Italian as well. I remember around the same time there was also like a clip of Sydney telling Garnt she wanted Italian and her tweeting about garlic or something too around the same time. Unless I'm completely fooling myself into the deja vu lol
@@willford55543 No, you are right. This story was told on Trash Taste before. Not a ramen story or anything of that sort.
My Dad went to Japan when I was a kid. While out to eat he asked for some butter on the side with his potatoes. You'd think he'd asked to piss on their shoes.
Butter is for bread silly gaijin
@@lachlank.8270 thats the most depressing thing ive ever heard in my life
@@WGGplant it's ironic and I still want to die
@@lachlank.8270Wongburger!
@ianfinrir8724 Remember, at Wong Burger when it's right, it's Wong.
*Some customers may get their D---s ripped off*
That's why I love going to Mexican and Filipino parties. Huge amount of food and nobody will judge you if they did you can just say "Shut up or I tell Lola that you're starving me to death."
Judge you? In my experience with Mexican parties you WILL be fed 3 times the amount of food any sane person could eat as well as constantly offered beer or shots. Hell my boy Angel's son turned 3 recently and they had 5 kegs 6 bottles of tequila 3 whole pigs and enough tamales to feed all of Russia. I don't think I ever had a free hand, If someone saw me without food in one hand and drink in the other I was immediately restocked.
Not eating 3 people portion sizes meant that you did not enjoy the food and will judge you that way lol
Plus you have to ask for seconds of that three person meal and make sure that you have salsa on the plate or you’ll get called a wimp and the persons who made the food will be irritated
Refusing seconds is considered rude there.
@@sayantanmazumdar3 no it's not lol, Lived in Mexico for half my life and no, you don't have to pig out all the time, you may be served alot but if you don't eat it well you just don't eat it, nobody will care
Don't know if this pertains to Japan as well, but in South Korea, we are taught in schools that drinking in the middle of your meal isn't healthy for you, so children usually have to drink water only after the meal. That kinda thing translated to where resturaunts will give you the drink only after the meal.
I’m in outlier in America because people love to be dehydrated over here but I’ll normally have like 2 glasses of water or milk during any given meal
No way what about at kbbq they don't let you drink beer while eating?
is that even medically true
@@meatymateo705 It is
Drink 30 means before eating
Cuz it dilutes the digestive acid and u could have stomach issues
@@royalfun1031 that’s a myth, at least MayoClinic says it might actually improve digestion
Here in Sweden, coffee usually comes after the meal. This is regardless when the meal is but I doubt it would be an issue to get the coffee immediately if you so choose. In reference to the Domino pizza in Italy, Starbucks in Sweden is doing quite poorly since we have such an established culture of having good coffee shops already they are having a hard time getting in here. Coffee is king here! :)
I guess there's coffee and "coffee". If it's a mug of brown liquid that vaguely smells of burnt beans, I guess it's best to bring it before the meal. If it's a cup of good coffee, I'd definitely want that after the meal, especially if I go for the dessert.
The only time I can see myself ordering coffee before/with the meal is breakfast.
Ok, as an Italian: Sweden = Italy. Same exact thing
I don't think swedes are very into brown milk drinks
I always order cold drinks for meals.
I don't like to eat and drink hot things simultaneously, I drink slowly and eat slower, I like tea hot and hate food cold, so this is what I do.
I can understand and appreciate asking what time I'd like what drink at, alcohol before, hot tea after.
I order drink to swallow stuff much better... my mouth dries up like a bitch, my eating speed slows significantly if no drinks... worse if the chicken taste like rubber and dry like bacon...
Having a pizza as an appetizer is the most American thing Garnt has ever done.
In Italy coffee is an after meal drink too, only American and English tourists drink coffee during the meal, to the horror of every Italian in the restaurant
Yeah, I feel this is a case of Anglos Vs. ROTW. :p
Yeah, exactly.
I think it depends-my mom was born and raised in America from German immigrants, but she takes her coffee after her meal and so do I. It’s a lovely little way to end a good meal, in my opinion. 🤷🏼♀️
Coffee after a meal is not usual in the UK actually, it's often offered in restaurants.
Same in Spain
The first day I was in Japan I thought I was buying a chicken burger from a shop but it turned out to be deep fried shrimp burger. It was still good but that first bite was the most shocking thing I’ve ever tasted
no way! its great!!
the way Connor says pasta stabs me right through my Italian heart
I’m not even Italian and it makes my ears bleed 😭
Classic garnt move
You are the first comment. Good for you.
It’s ALWAYS a fight with my local pizza place in Japan to get them to understand that my friend and I are BOTH ordering a pizza. Lol 😂 We order one and they think we are done and walk away haha
In Spain we never have coffee or tea with a meal (unless it's breakfast, obviously), it's always after the meal. So if you tried to order that here, waiters would definitely give you a weird look and, like Joey said, confirm they understood you correctly. It's not weird to order coffee or tea after dinner, though. I mean, now that I think about it, I guess if you were having lunch at Starbucks, yeah, you can order your drink with your food and it's perfectly fine. Otherwise, it would be weird. So I suppose we that that in common with Japanese people.
I was going to say the same thing, having a hot drink, be it coffee or tea, with your meal here in Spain would indeed be considered really weird and a waiter would also give you a strange look if you asked for it.
Also here in Italy or in France. And even in Germany as much as I know
@@stefamart7 It is confirmed, then. Connor is a weirdo with his coffee drinking during a meal habit. :p
I'd say most of Europe is like that and only the UK (and its colonies apparently) are the exception.
I have met some people who would have coffee or tea during dinner here in Brazil, but usually their dinners would be something like soup, a sandwich or something that people usually eat on breakfast, and most of them were older people too. I never met anyone drinking coffee or tea during lunch though. Also, I think most ofthe time I saw people having coffee or tea during dinner happened when they were having dinner earlier like 6pm, but I don't think I saw many people doing that of they were having dinner at like 8pm, specially with coffee
I don't know if I am having deja vú but I swear Garnt has told that story before
I swear he has
In having deja vu reading this comment. I could've sworn I saw it several times on the podcast episode comments section, as well as several times on this one video
He did, during one of his Genshin streams
Actually in Algeria and some Arab and African countries, they bring refreshing drinks first automatically and the hot drinks they bring it at the end with deserts or sometimes after deserts if that's what you want, some people drink coffee and tea as an after, like some infusions, it's great for digestion...etc
So no worries, it's not Japan only haha~!
Here in Portugal our coffee is expresso and its majorly drank after a main meal.
The only exception is at breakfast with some toast or pastel de nata which some people sip on it while eating or in between meals where people do the same with a snack, usually a pastry.
Italian here, the first American chain restaurant in my city was a Pizza Hut, we don't have those anymore now, but we have plenty of mcDonalds, KFC and Burger Kings. Never seen an Olive Garden in my entire life
It's also very weird to drink coffee in the middle of dinner or any other meals in Portugal. I enjoy drinking milk with coffee or just coffee in meals and everyone tells me it's gonna fuck up my stomach. Maybe that's why
i'm portuguese and people usually take coffee after meals
This is a completely alien concept to me, does people drink coffee with meals besides on breakfast?
@Yoshe Plays I have never seem or heard about drinking coffee with something besides a pastry, i guess it could be because here in Brazil coffee is always very strong
Also in Italy, Spain, France etc. 😂😅
I feel like my digestive system will shut down if I drink coffee with meals
Friendship ended with Japan, now no one is their friend
They made dragonball, mexico would sooner take arms up against us than them
Ok as an american, there is plenty of stuff I know we get wrong, but I am proud of our big or go home style of food. Makes me feel like a big boi with attitude.... the good kind.
They 100% ask if you want coffee after meal in Finland as well. (In the very few places where you dont just go pick up the coffee after lunch yourself)
Here in Australia they always give me my drink as soon as I order probably in the hopes of me finishing it before and wanting another one.
Same in Ukraine
Same in America
I guess there's some unspoken etiquette to eating in restaurants on Japan. Other places have arbitrary rules like that too. When I was in Italy, my language class had a chapter on "eating at the restaurant" instructing us on which types of specialty coffee we could (should) order in late evening after a meal and evidently lattes with a dessert was a no-go cuz I got looked at weirdly by a waiter who said "are you sure??" in an incredulous tone.
When I worked at an Inn serving dinner in Vermont, Coffee was always last - after desert (along with mints). It was always Hor D'Oeuvres, Soup, Salad, main, dessert, then coffee (wine that was pre-purchased by the customer(s) were served with the meal).
So maybe it was that tradition the Japanese restaurants followed?
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I didn’t think was just an American thing but, coffee is almost ALWAYS served AFTER the dinner and often times served with desert. Coffee is the only drink this is applicable for.
Keep in mind this is for restaurants with proper courses, not like a diner or fast food or something.
This conversation reminds me of the time I ordered 2 large drinks in Tokyo as I was super dehydrated (From previous experiences in Asian countries I already knew that free refills are not the norm), and the waiter confirming me if that's what I wanted.
In Pakistan tea/coffee is consumed with breakfast/after breakfast and the 2nd cup is consumed with snacks at 4-5PM after lunch break. 3rd cup is sometimes consumed after dinner but that's 30min to 2 hours later. Hot beverages are never consumed with food or before food.
they ask before or after a meal in India as well, especially for tea. You'd be surprised but having it after feels relaxing (for hot drinks)
Garnt: “You know that feeling where you kinda, like-want two dishes at once… but they’re like two mains?”
Me: *Yes, but no.*
coffee is absolutely an after meal drink, it's weird everywhere to drink the coffee before or during the meal not just japan
And who decided that? The food police?
"You just like coffee? Heh, sorry weirdo, your food preference is WRONG."
@@ROBOTPETER101 it's just a silent understanding
Would disagree with that
We usually get coffee first in Germany, Hungary, Ukraine and other european countries without even asking. They just bring it first
@@Andr-Eix what countries do you mean? Cause we had different experience everywhere
@@ROBOTPETER101 i also wipe my ass after taking a shit and not before, i'm just weird like that
In Mexico, drinks always are served during the meal; personally, however, I like to drink three quarters of it during the meal and the other quarter to wash out the taste of leftover food, so I can kinda understand an after meal drink. I still feel a whole drink afterwards is weird, though I have seen some people drink both during and after.
The coffee thing is that most countries - especially Latino countries and that includes Italy, France, Spain and Portugal - don't make see-through coffee like Americans and Brits do. We like our coffee to be strong, so all our coffee is what you guys would call an "espresso" coffee. And when you're having a meal you want to drink a reasonable amount, like 300 ml. And having 300 ml of expresso with your food will only make your food taste only of coffee, hence it being served after the meal.
I believe the Japanese ended up assimilating that habit due to contact with the Portuguese centuries ago.
I swear everytime I hear Garnt and Sydney and food, it's them deciding between pasta or pizza
In my family, my dad would always make coffee for everyone after dinner as something to relax with while we chat. Any other meal I understand having it at the same time/before, but for dinner it stands out to me as weird if it *isn't* served afterwards
Drinking coffee with your meal is psychopathic
Weird hyperbole
No 😂
Ok but drinking anything other than water after a meal is some dahmer shit
Japanese freaking out about two servings of noodles is ironic because kaedama
In St. Louis there is a set of sushi restaurants where they have all you can eat sushi but after you order it, any stuff you don’t eat they charge you for
Yo I just ate there
Sushi ai lol
@@Masssshysteria YUP!
Right at the end it sounded like Connor was about to go off on his New York pizza rant again
Even in the US the McDonalds the food and drinks taste different in different parts of the country
I'm Brazilian and here it's also normal to have your coffee after the meal and not before/during
Just to explain a bit the Domino's Pizza situation here in Italy.
Let's imagine you want a burger, and there's already so many places to eat a burger at. And then this food chain from oversea opens up. They have hit or miss burgers that aren't that good, they are a bit more expensive than any other place, and it takes forever to cook and bring a pizza to you. It's not just that it wasn't as good as every other pizzeria here in Italy, it's that there always were so many better option (and about the hit or miss thing, i went to domino's like 13 times, and only 2 times it was actually decent enough, every other time it was nothing but oil on raw dough and cheese).
tbf, drinking coffee DURING a meal would be seen as incredibly weird her in italy and some restaurants will even refuse to serve coffee until after the meal
where im from, coffee is normally served after finishing the meal. whereas beer, water, soda etc, is served with meal. coffee is sorta like desert to enjoy for digestion and spent talking with others on the table.
0:19 I would deffinetally watch an actial A.I. generated Trash Taste conversation. It's duable. The episodes are online, the transcript is online, the A.I. models are online. There are being created similar things before. For me a simple text would be enougth, but i think when somebody douing it he will replicateing the voice because it's not that of a bigger step to generate that also.
I mean Garnt and Sid did order extra extra extra large ramen by accident
When /if I order coffee (United States) during lunch or dinner, the server will usually ask WHEN I want the coffee, because coffee is usually after a meal. However, during a breakfast, they won't ask because people will usually drink their coffee with their meal.
In Spain the coffee is an after meal too. If you want a drink with the meal, you order coca-cola, water, wine or stuff like that, but not coffee. I've never seen anyone eating with coffee
Ordering coffee BEFORE your meal? I’ve never heard of anyone doing that. In France, you have it with your breakfast, but any other meal it’s only drunk after.
If this was an American tourist/vlogger instead of Garnt, we would have seen a slew of twitter posts about how they were fat-shamed.
For me coffee is always after lunch. It helps the digestion of the food and not let you fall into food-coma.
To be fair to Japanese restaurants, especially fast food ones, a rice refill or upgrading to larger portion of rice for your meal usually doesn’t cost extra.
Because of being Celia & allergic to dairy it is really rare that I have desserts because the UK Gluten free & none dairy desserts are just bad
But when we go out none of our group will have starters because they LOVE pudding so I would always sit & watch them
Then I thought shove this & started ordering Starters after the meal as pudding
My friends hated this & said it was weird but then another friend started coming every week & she doesn’t like puddings & always did the same as me Starter for pudding hahaha
It does make the restaurant go into a freak out spin hahahaha
For coffee I think in mediterranean countries is the same? At least in Spain we consider coffee an after meal drink. We don't drink it with the main course, we drink it with the dessert
When I visited Japan this past New Years. We went to an Italian chef ran restaurant in Atami. The portion sizes were small but the food was so good. I ordered 3 plates. Spaghetti Bolognese, Basil Pesto, and Lasagna. The Chef made a joke about me eating his arm next and we all laughed. Best Italian I've ever had.
Because some drinks are good for digestion and others as "starters".
Personally, I have never seen anyone order a hot coffe during a meal here in the US. Restaurants that are not franchises usually ask you if you want a coffe after the meal.
11:12 Same in India. Regular for 1 person. Medium/Large for at least 2. I eat medium alone.
Going to dinner with my mates from college and then tea+milk+sugar afterwards was so good back in the day. And so cheap around uni-campus damn I miss those days 😢
Ive had this same interaction trying to order 2 breakfast meals at a restaurant for myself.
I imagine this is a similar culture shock as going to a medical facility in America while having full health insurance
Tbh in Spain we also get a small coffee after lunch, either with or after the dessert, so the thought of drinking coffee during the actual lunch feels kinda wrong
In Romania the drink doesn't come first lol. At least in my family, its super strange to have ur meal with coffee, especially when its something like borsch. The drinks always comes last unless its like a champagne party or something
I'll have two number 9's, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45's, one with cheese, and a large soda.
As a german I see a coffee as a dessert drink too. If it makes you poop it should be drink after eating...
Hmm, we got coffee served first in Germany without even asking
In Saarbruecken and Rostock for sure
@@annalebedyntseva188 intersting. And it wasn't for breakfast?
@@BoindilTwoBlades it was for dinner
Maybe it differs from place to place
Garn, pizzas in Estonia are the same: for them, a normal sized pizza is what everyone would call a small pizza, and that's supposed to be for two people. Sure, no one needs a 1-meter-wide pizza as you can get in the US, but at least 8 slices for a medium pizza would be expected.
To get bitches you gotta scare them away, alpha move
And on the other hand you got bento places that serve 900g of food as one serving.
6:07 First Reaction: shock
Cit. Matteo Renzi - Joey
as an italian, hearing you get coffee during the meal i died
As someone who works in the food service industry. I recognize it a lot especially in younger people working at a McDonalds or something. You know that technically something could be done differently but simple. Yet, can visibly see their cogs stutter from the overload. They’ve spent so much time memorizing or getting into the script and motions of daily norms. They’re jarred by differences. Sometimes I get this way and will correct but just once, put their order in and send them on their merry way. Maybe its anxiety or routine putting them in false sense of security?…..something?😂
Absolutely true the part at the end about McDonald’s in the US being terrible. As an American, I’m excited to try McDonald’s in Japan the first time that I go this year.
6:45 Maybe they think the poor Gaijin made a mistake.
You get similar reactions in the US is you ask for only the burger (no fries or drink), or no cheese… or no ice when it’s freezing outside… why do I need a cup full of ice?
In most countries, coffee is treated like a dessert unless its a cafe or brunch place tho
About the coffee alongside food ... Well, here in Brazil it would be weird. Joey's account is accurate about the timing of ordering coffee with a meal.
Once, at a Japanese restaurant, for dessert, I used my Elite Nihong Skillz to order two servings of takoyaki, instead of taiyaki.
Granted, I was a few jars of sake in.
But I've never felt so much shame as when she brought the squidballs, and I was like, no no no no no! And pointed to the sweet fish-shaped cake picture.
"Oh! You mean TAIYAKI. Not TAKOYAKI." She said loud enough for everyone around to hear.
Everyone laughed. I just covered my face in shame. Head on table.
She took away the squidballs and came back with the sweet fish cakes.
I ate mine with the salty tears of my shame mixing with the sweet red bean paste flavour.
or asking the taxi driver to take me to Tokyo Ebi Station. ommmg he laughed and said "ebi or eki" 😂
this video thumbnail made me realise its been multiple months since I've eaten spaghetti and I need to fix that
Bruh, the further away you get from Italy the stranger the recipes and servings are
12:20 A Dominos has been opened in Milan, but it closed down after a while
I'm pretty sure the wife and I have gone to a pizza place her in America and ordered a pizza and 2 pastas... they didn't even bat an eye.
4:20 Sometimes, you just want to stuff yourself on one thing and skip dessert.
McDonald’s in France has a double decker Fillet-o-Fish 👌
Love how you go to a restaurant and the waitresses are shocked that you order lots of food. Of course I'm going to order a lot of food if I'm in a RESTAURANT. If I wasn't going to order a lot of food then I wouldn't even be here, I'd probably just cook something up in my kitchen or something similar
Usually I get the drink before or after, I never get one for during the meal. Also, coffee 100% after.
I went to some nutritionists in my life and this is real, it is recommended for you to drink only AFTER or BEFORE the meals, not during it, because of healthy issues, it seems that if you dink while eating solid food you don't absorb optimally the nutrients on the food neither drink and all goes to shit, and it tends also to store more fat.
Nah, I call bullshit. Sounds like some cable news popsci, all of the nutrients your body absorbs from your food are from a nasty soupy slurry in your small intestine, drinking a lemonade at the same time as your burger isn't gonna change anything.
Here in Brazil, we have coffee after the meal.
Next time really blow their minds: order the pizza with the pasta ON TOP
In Italian restaurants or the like, three dollar sign restaurants in America, there's often coffee and tea on the dessert menu but not on the main.
Coffee at the same the same time as a meal is wierd, to be fair