Actually before revenge of the sith was done filming, George Lucas told Hayden to just stand there and smile, and that's what Hayden did. He didn't know what it was for. He said if he knew he was filming that scene he would have acted differently. That’s what Hayden said in an interview
I remembered as a kid finding it weird that the actor that played the ghost looked exactly like Anakin in the prequel even if the movie came out like 20 years before
I don't know why anyone would be annoyed at Ewoks blinking. Without it they just look like teddy bears and more obvious suits, plus there is something disturbing about them having their eyes open constantly.
It's because they are disillusioned and want the product their way. Truly the blinking doesn't stand out and it gives more life to an already dead looking creature. Moreso most fans just can't handle the fact the effects aren't as timeless as they lie.
Replacing puppet Yoda was justified. They lost the original (ESB one) and the puppet used in TPM was just a proof of concept using "modern" materials. George said "that'll do" much to the creators surprise. The CGI replacement showing Yoda 30 years younger than ESB and living in far better conditions than the swamp he eventually lived in, was a great choice.
They didn't loose the ESB Yoda. Lucas still has it in his personal archives. You can see it in tour videos of his archives. They tried to make a "younger" Yoda puppet just for the prequels and failed.
@@-007-2 , because the puppet looked older in episode 1 and that wasn't the intent. I still don't like the cartoon version should have just reshot it practically with another puppet. But seeing how they still couldn't get it right in Last Jedi, maybe cartoon cgi Yoda is the best alternative.
@@-007-2 My mistake, I thought that it went missing after the studio didn't want to pay the storage fees anymore and it ended up in a dumpster with a load of other SW props. I apologise for misleading anyone.
The problem with Shaw’s Force ghost is that it looks like a 70 something year old. This is not as obvious when he is dying as he is supposed to look scarred and broken. Lucas probably hadn’t decided om Anakin’s age when writing the original trilogy, so it’s understandable that he looked this way originally, but still, the change is definitely for the better. Ideally they should edit the scene now as Christensen has the perfect age for a 40 something Anakin.
Another big problem about it is how that version never really existed. Anakin never thought or imagined that version. At that point, he just hated himself, including his appearance.
The Yoda puppet didn't stand out because of the digital environment. It stood out because the sculpt of the puppet was horribly inconsistent from the original. Frank Oz did a fine job puppeteering Yoda in the prequels, it just never looked like the same character.
I never had a problem with Hayden Christensen replacing Shaw as Anakin's force ghost. I'm especially in favor of it now after seeing how well Hayden has aged over the last 18 years. He still looks very similar, and (unlike Shaw) is still alive for future projects. Also, younger fans would probably see Shaw's force ghost at the end of the original version of RotJ and think "Who the hell is this guy? Where's Anakin?"
@@ericmatthews8497I always prefered Hayden in that scene, but what you said makes a lot.of sense. I mean, imagine seeing your father looking younger than you out of nowhere. That would be shocking
The fact that the child-murderer, mass-murderer, planet-destroying killing machine becomes an angel-force-ghost just because he protected his own flesh and blood from death at the final moments of a 99% amoral Hitler-like life, is more troubling than any actor swapping...
Controversial opinion: Since Lucas already updated the movies once, Disney should update them again to make the more consistent with the prequels and other canon shows. I'm not talking changing stories here, I mean just updating some of the really aged late-90s CGI, or tweaking small things to make them internally self-consistent like what Lucas did with Vader/Anakin's eyebrows. Then they should add all the original and modified cuts in bonus features to acknowledge how the movie effects changed over time (perhaps with commentary as to why it changed too).
Yes, the 90s CGI is cringy and should be redone by Lucas film. They should also release the movies in three formats for you to choose to watch: 1) the OG releases 2) the Special Edition releases 3) the new 2020+ Remaster releases (yet to be made)
Don't give them ideas. Unless there's a shift in executives at Disney, Anakin will be retconned to be a gay black woman and Luke her adopted neurodiverse trans lover.
It was good showing Naboo and other planets celebrating at the end of ROTJ. They too had been bullied by the Empire and it makes the Rebels victory seem more universal.
I believe the change to hayden christiansen is smart, because if you think of it, Anakin, before he turned to the dark side, was Hayden, and when he was turned back he was still burned and gross, so in his force ghost he chose to look like the original Anakin. Idk, those are just my thoughts.
I also think too Obi-Wan only knew what Anakin looked like as Hayden. Demasked Vader looked so deformed that regular Shaw would probably not be recognized by Obi-Wan. I mean, rules in Jedi heaven are probably different but I think using a human form that Obi-Wan and Yoda knew (Hayden) makes more sense
Out of morbid curiosity, I would like to see Mr. Christensen do the whole back to Light/death scene. I wouldn't want it actually replaced in the movie, but I would like to see it. Of course, I'm still a little salty over my favorite cut scene being in A New Hope. I love the scene with the big furry human Jaba in the hanger, I still don't think that ILM can or will be able to make the slug look good.
I think it was the worst of the changes. It actually undermines the story. You see Han pushing Jabba around. It makes Jabba less threatening and undermines the plot line of Han having a bounty on his head. They should have left that scene out.
@@theduke7616 That's my point. I loved watching that scene, in the cut scenes, on the BTS and documentary featurettes. The addition of it was 1) redundant, we had all the information from Gredo 2) the having to add Han stepping over Jaba's tail is overly ridiculous.
What annoys me more than all those unnecessary tweaks is that the original versions are no longer available. I would like to watch the film as I remembered it as a kid in '77, not as an adult in '97.
If you haven't heard of _Harmy's Despecialized Editions,_ allow me to recommend. They are the bomb. They are not supposed to be bought and sold at all, yet it is quite possible to do so if long downloads are not agreeable.
I'm amazed that neither Lucasfilm nor Disney has re-released the original films as the "Classic Edition." Getting fans to buy the original trilogy get again seems like a no-brainer way to make more money.
@@joshuawilkinson6121 George considers the special editions as the "original trilogy", so he probably kept the one's we love in the deal, and buried them for all time.
@@lookingforwookiecopilot The word around the campfire is that Lucas never sold the rights to the original theatrical versions to Disney, so Disney simply couldn't release them even if they wanted to. He also deliberately allowed much of the original film stock to degrade so that it could never be re-used for that purpose. In the late 90s he was cheerfully declaring that in 20 to 30 years, his edited versions of the OT would be the only ones in existence.
I got the original trilogy on VHS tapes and I'm wondering if it's Shaw or Hayden as Anakin... Also, in Ahsoka Hayden is perfect as the Force Ghost of Annie, cause he knew what he was doing...
The scene was filmed in 2004 during the revenge of the site tapings so it wouldn’t be there since the vhs are from 97 and Hayden would have been 16 at the time 😂
The change I like the most is replacing the Emporer with a woman's face and monkey eyes to be replaced by Ian McDiarmid playing the Emporer in the vision. It makes it consistent and looks better (and seeing McDiarmid play the Emporer anytime is good).
Emperor* But yeah, you're pretty much right. Although I have to admit I'm a little torn on the dialogue change. Also, Clive Revill (the guy that originally voiced the Emperor in EZB) had a great voice.
The tractor beam thing in English (I mean it's labelled "Tractor beam" pretty, obvious exposition, is akin to the original Batman, which had signs everywhere telling everyone the obvious: "bat computer", bat-microwave oven" etc. What would have been funnier is if Obiwan had to type in on a key pad, the Admin password "admin" and the password, "password".
I definitely never heard anyone complain about The Phantom Menace Yoda change, there was something odd looking about that puppet Eyebrows were burned off in Revenge of the Sith, so it makes sense they'd be gone, what's odd is Rebels brought them back like in an attempt to just boycott the special edition or something like that lol 😝 I literally didn't even know those white blips were supposed to be the X-Wings taking off before the special edition Many would disagree with the Ani ghost, I just figured they did it so they could use him later since the late Sebastian Shaw wasn't avaliable, but Disney didn't use that opportunity in any of their sequels to George's originals
My head canon on the Ani ghost scene is that the young him is just what his mind associates with the good part of him, while the old, burned man is the pathetic, evil man that he doesn't want anything to do with anymore
I’m not a fan of the special editions but one change in A New Hope I actually always liked was the Millennium Falcon rising out of the hanger on Mos Eisley. It’s a cool shot that gives the scene a little extra flair.
And Viggo Mortensen (as Aragorn) broke two toes while kicking a helmet and screaming in grief for the scene. Sometimes the actors' real pain becomes our entertainment.
It makes sense that he changed some things to fit the prequels, but it would have made even more sense if he had remembered the continuity of the originals and written the prequels around them instead, maybe?
It was not only the matt lines that were fixed in the Hoth scenes -originally because of the optical printer's problem with white things on white backgrounds, everything with snowy backgrounds where see-through and looked like ghosts.
They should update Anakin's ghost as Hayden is almost the same age as Anakin now. Also they could reshoot Anakin's death scene with Hayden (while editing in young Hamill). Of course that would mean removing Sebastian Shaw from episode 6 completely.
There is one thing which isn't on the list but should have been. Changing Palpatine in the hologram in Empire strikes back. At first, he was portrayed by Marjorie Eaton with a mask, while Clive Revill voiced him. In the new version, Palpatine was portrayed by Ian McDiarmid, who portrayed him in other movies.
Personally think the CG X-wings do not look as real but the shot improvements are worth it. For continuity, inserting Hayden into the unmasking scene would have been great. Nerd nitpick, wasn't Aurebesh introduced in ESB on Luke's X-wing monitor?
I think it would be cool if in the force ghost scene it starts with Sebastian, and transitions to Hayden. At the same time, have Alec transition to Ewan.
The change I DO NOT approve is the part on Degobah when Luke said to R2 “You’re lucky you don’t taste very good.” in the original Empire Strikes Back. In the edited version Luke says “You’re lucky to get out of there” which weakens the comedy of the situation
The helmet bump sound was in the ‘93 laserdisc version… way before the DVD release. I do not have any earlier versions of Star Wars, but it was added as early as that Laserdisc at least. I think it was caught during post production of the original release, so I’ve heard
(1:28) Even before Revenge of the Sith, the story of why Darth Vader was given the life-support suit was close to what we ended up with. In the novelization, the conversation between Obi-Wan and Luke was extended, where Obi-Wan describes a similar event to Revenge of the Sith.
I pose a simple question for anyone who says the Hayden force ghost is justified. Would you have cared if it wasnt changed at all? Sure, you like the change but you cant tell me that you needed it. Its disrespectful to the guy who got replaced. That was his most iconic scene as an actor. George Lucas gave him the middle finger and stomped on the old mans grave.
@@annab4r Its better with Hayden? Didn't Vader turn back to the light side before he died? That was the entire point. Its also weird that Vader would show up as someone Luke hasn't seen. This is why you don't screw with 20 year old movies that have a huge fanbase. Maybe we should make the prequels better by deleting Jar Jar. And every time they say "Ani" in episode 1, it needs to be dubbed "Anakin" so Darth Vader isn't turned into girl.
I would've cared. It would've bugged me, if not much, then a little. Sure it's disrespectful, which is something I'll give you in a heartbeat, but that doesn't break it for me.
They need to put back the Ewok song "Yub Nub" at the end of Return of the Jedi. I dont care for the replacement tune. Hayden as Anakin's force ghost is cool though.
They need to replace Alec Mcguiness with Ewan McGregor as Ghost Obi-Wan Kenobi in The Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi to is resembles his decade self that the Ewan McGregor version.
The storm trooper who bumps his head, I heard tell it's David Prowse(Darth Vader) who was being used because they needed an extra trooper and who was taller than the rest of the extras on the scene which is why the door was either not designed to go higher or whose ever job it was to raise it didn't raise it enough and since Prowse had trouble seeing out of the helmet, he didn't see enough to be able to stoop a bit. I'd love it if someone can tell me if I'm right or wrong on this.
Empire Strikes Back: Replacing the Emperor played by some guy in a generic, goofy mask with the man himself, actor Ian McDiarmid. I'm glad I'm not the only one who likes the changes. I recently watched the Star Wars saga beginning with the prequels. Without the CGI enhancements, the original trilogy just would NOT follow the prequel trilogy in a continuous way. CGI was such an integral aspect of the prequels' aesthetic, it wouldn't work to follow them with films devoid of CGI. Besides, for the most part, the CGI enhancements allow us to enjoy the 1970's charm without the 1970's limitations. They're the films as George Lucas intended they should be. And I love that!
I guess it really depends on what generation you come from. Growing up with the OT, what was once known as the "Special Editions", the CGI in Star Wars did greatly improve the space battle. Restoring the Jabba scene was cool...except for stepping on his tail. I didn't like what Lucas and his team did with Empire at all, and believe since he wasn't its director, wasn't his movie to change or butcher in places. ROTJ is what it is, but Anakin was a much older man at death, and just seems odd to see the younger version of him instead. As it is, the OT is completely distributed and streamed as what was once known the "Special Editions". I know there are many of us that still would like to see the original theatrical versions sold on blu-ray quality, flaws and all.
replacing Shaw with christianson was incredibly disrespectful to Shaw and his family and also if you look at it logically noone would recognize a younger Anakin where as Luke save Shaw's version of Anakin
I think it is the same reason Rian gave for not having Hayden in Last Jedi. Luke wouldn't recognize him because Vader was Shaw. So they had Puppet Yoda instead.
Its funny to thing that hayden christensen is 42 years old and darth vader was 45 when he died, so hayden is now old enough to play vader at the time of his death but yet in shows like ahsoka they still deaged him...
One change that hasn't been made, but needs to be done, is in A New Hope when Luke realizes the stormtroopers attacked the Jawas' sandcrawler because they were looking for R2 and 3P0, and says, "If they traced the robots here, that means they could find out who they sold them to". In the Star Wars universe, R2 and 3P0 are NOT robots. They're droids. It seems like it would be pretty simple to copy and paste an audio clip of Hammill saying "droids" into that scene...
For the X wings leaving Yavin 4 and assembling I always liked that change, why couldn’t the tower watching guy (with no way to get up there or down for a break) be removed as a change?
@@OmegaPointZen Especially if it's telescopic. Then again, I didn't see a hanger crew available on Dagobah to remove the ladder Luke needed to get into his X-Wing. Maybe Yoda did it? 🙄 And how did that large ladder get there in the first place?
Replacing Shaw with Christensen is a non sense, just as much as Lucas wanted us to believe that Anakin became Vader "to save the one he loved". Save her from what and to do what? She would have never agree with Anakin killing younglings to save her baby (among other things). And he knew that very well. Returning to this point. Young Anakin did a lot of atrocious things with no valid reason (according to the story). Old Anakin is actually the one who loved his son so much that did the ultimate sacrifice to save him. At that point if by some mambo jumbo that cannot be explained, he became a Force Ghost just like this, it's fine, but the one who deserves this is the old Anakin, not the young one who was so foolish and evil.
I never once watched any of the stars wars films in my entire lifetime, I was a wee kid when the movies with anakin and obi wan came out back then and I never got the chance to actually see any of the movies growing up as a kid, my parents weren’t into that, nobody in my family was into that and I jsut never bothered to get into it until I turned about 20 then decided to finally watch all the films after all the years of wanting to be part of the fandom and after listening to the many many family guy references , I watched the films and that shit was good I was over there looking at professional light sabers after I got done with all of them, but the point is , the movies made by George Lucas were badass and a major staple , and I saw Return of the Jedi for the first time I thought it was so dope to see Hayden Christensen as one of the ghost , and because I watched the movies in theatrical release I was surprised as hella when I seen him as one of the ghost cause growing up as a kid I remember seeing Hayden’s face everywhere when the phantom menace came out and everything after that, I knew Hayden as that dude from Star Wars that turns into dearth Vader, so watching his ghost appear in the 6th episode was a dope first time watch for me because in my head I was like there’s no way, but this movie came out like years ago, and I was just completely stunned and it wasn’t until I looked it up that I saw it was cgi and that wasn’t the original cut , it still made me feel good that I got to watch the movies for the first time with all the George Lucas edits and changes.
I absolutely respect your opinion, and you aren't wrong; however, there are a couple of things I feel differently about. Replacing puppet Yoda. I liked the puppet. That said, I'm biased: I've done puppets on TV. (I suspect it's one of those however you first saw it, will be the one you prefer.) Replacing Shaw with Christensen. I happen to think it was unfortunate that they took Shaw's final moments away. Maybe they could've started with one, and had him age (or de-age) to the other? As always thank you so very much for the videos.
While I don’t mind the puppet, I mean ESB Yoda is great. TPM Yoda looked really bad imo. It looked very greasy and I guess that was to make him look younger, but it doesn’t match up to the rest of the prequel movies. So I’m that sense replacing the puppet for CG I can understand, if anything for continuity sake.
They kind of did do the Shaw and Hayden being his ghost in canon now. In one of the novels that takes place before the ST, Anakin’s ghost(Hayden) does show up and something happens to his ghost where it would revert back to when he was Shaw after Luke takes his mask off. Still, in universe, I don’t think healed Shaw as his ghost would make sense. Anakin himself doesn’t know that version or has ever thought of that.
Of all the changes made over the years the one thing that has never been changed is when Leia calls "Luke!" and Luke yelling "Carrie!" as he's getting out of his X-Wing at the end of A New Hope. Am I the only person to notice that? Nobody re-editing the movies has.
Actually, Luke yelled "there she-", intending to yell "there she is" but was cut off by Leia's hug. This comes from Mark Hamill himself and is supported by George Lucas.
@@williamseneyjr.6277 No, he say "CARRIE!" very clearly, there are a few videos on it so I'm not the only one. Mark said that the line was dubbed, then he claimed he said "There she", but why not add in "is!" if it was dubbed, why not finish the sentence if that's what he intended to say? And he also said it was simply a shriek and not words at all but it's clearly a word. Mark obviously doesn't remember it clearly. I think Mark knows he screwed up but just trolling his fans, it wouldn't be the first time he's done it.
My issue with Anakin’s force ghost replacement is that it kinda pulls away the idea that Anakin himself came back, took his life back from Darth Vader, and redeemed himself in the end. I think that an aged Hayden (maybe makeup or a little bit of digital age, it’s easy to hide that behind the blue filter) would’ve been better.
I have a better solution for the Shaw/Christensen dilemma: Make Anakin's force ghost initially be the one of Sebastian Shaw, then he blurs into Hayden Christensen. Now add a CGI of Obi-Wan's Alec Guiness impressed, and he tries to do the same and becomes Ewan McGregor. Hell, go a step beyond, put a CGI'd younger Liam Neeson as Qui-Gon showing up behind them and then show Luke as a CGI'd Young Mark Hamill looking at the scene with utter confusion!
The force ghost change was okay. One of the perks of being the Chosen One is you get to choose what your force ghost looks like and Anakin himself preferred his appearance when he was younger.
I've seen it a hundred times and never noticed it was Hayden's head superimposed over Shaw. I simply thought they had Hayden re-film the entire presentation and swapped.
Those who object to Hayden Christensen replacing Sebastian Shaw need only remembering that around the same time, some creators wanted to replace Alec Guinness with Ewan McGregor as the Force ghost of Obi-Wan. However, Lucas shut that idea down, because in his eyes, Ewan McGregor could easily evolve into Alec Guinness, given a few decades (which he is, given what we got in the show). However, since Anakin did quote unquote die when he became Vader, we needed to see Anakin as he was before that. Still, the original ghost does show what would have been if Anakin never became Vader, but that's a whole different debate. I prefer seeing Hayden over Sebastian Shaw.
I read that Lucas didn't tell Hayden why he wanted to him to dress up like that to film him. I wish he had because he just looks goofy standing there grinning. He could have at least given a better performance if he knew he was going to be a redeemed Anakin force ghost.
Lucas did it as a way to reward Hayden. He didn't even tell him til later he was in the 2004 DVD release. It was a gift to the actor. And it was gracious even if it makes no sense. Its like the Stewjon thing. Lucas does these things sometimes.
In my opinion original ending in return of the jedy is more appropriate an oldman Anakin that a young Anakin because anakin changes his appearance through 20 years
Its changes like removing Sebastian shaw that make me never give up my un altered vhs tapes of the original trilogy. Lucasfilm seriously needs to let the fans choose an edit that they want to buy and release them all.
Maybe 2005 Hayden doesn't make sense to be in ROTJ. But maybe he can come back in 5-10 years (whenever he's the correct age) and reshoot both the unmasking and force ghost scenes. Then we don't need to worry about the "wrong age" thing??
Nope wrong, Anakin Skywalker, not Darth Vader died as a young man. Anakin Skywalker died in ROTS, the movies make it very clear after the he is no longer Anakin, and the Obi Wan show just further proves that point, there was no saving him at that time.
@@puuko9874 because he went from the age of 62 to 21 in a matter of seconds. Makes no sense. Also, most say that is because that was the last point in which Anakin was good, but that’s not true. He died a good man.
But he never looked like Shaw. He looked like burned when he died. So if you want to talk about continuity, then him suddenly becoming unrecognizable (as in becoming non burned shaw) would make no sense, because he never looked like that. Whereas the force ghost represents their inner self and their relationship to the light side, which would mean at the end of the movie, when darth Vader went back to the light side, his inner self reverted back to when he was last with the light side, as Hayden Christensen’s a anakin. Where as obiwan and toda grew old with the light side which makes sense why they look older. This is how it makes sense to me.
Also darth Vader was in his 40’s when he died so making him look like a grandpa makes no sense. Going by your logic then Christensen’s Anakins force ghost is better because he looks closer to that age. But I believe he reverts back to just before he went to the dark side.
Disagree, the Hayden Christensen force ghost makes no sense! Anakin never truly "died" when he became Vader. He was just suppressed by Vader until the end when he returned to the light.
exactly, he died as an older man, a man who as returned to and has been restored by the light side. the ghost should look like shaw. i get the attempt to 'connect' it to the prequels, i get that christensen is more recognizable as anakin, but i don't like the inconsistency. i also agree yoda and obiwan should be pissed they don't get to choose their younger "hotter" forms as ghosts, lol.
you do realise Anakin was only 42 when he died in ROJ, while Sebastian Shaw is great he makes Anakin look like he's in his 70's. the new shot is closer in age ascetically than the old shot.
Chaning Anikin from Sebastian Shaw to Hayden Christensen might make sense if he wasn't the only one changed. If anything, it makes the rules here so much murkier. He's younger, why isn't Yoda or Obi Wan? They could have changed all the force ghosts. Plus, we only minutes before saw Shaw as the reformed Anikin, why bring in a third actor in one movie to portray the physical character? It really wasn't justified at all.
Anakin had different circumstances from other two. Yoda and Kenobi didn’t turn to the dark side and/or get their appearances altered after doing so. With Anakin, he was burned alive after turning to the dark when he was in his 20s. I think in universe, it makes less sense with an old and heal version of Shaw since Anakin has never looked like that nor would he know about that one. There is other support in expanded lore that supports the idea that Anakin would most likely appear as his younger self when he was a force ghost.
@@Deathpool_04yes exactly! The force ghost is a representation of your inner self coupled with your relationship with the light side. Anakin never looked like unburned Shaw, so why would that be his inner self? Christensen’s Anakin would be the version of himself that he recognizes, now that he’s back to the light side. Plus Darth Vader died in his 40s so his unburned self wouldn’t look like an 80 year old man anyways
@@pro_kate5756 You should read the ROTJ Novelization. The way he describes his younger self and how that’s when he had a lot of the good things in his life compared to when he was an old man as Darth Vader, supports that he’d want to appear as how he did before he became Vader. Yes, he fulfilled the prophecy as an old man but that wouldn’t change his thoughts on his younger self and how there’s nothing that supports him even wanting to appear as a much older but healed version of himself. At most, he’d look like middle aged Hayden. He only looked much older because of him getting burned alive and being on the dark side.
@@pro_kate5756 I will mention that the ROTJ novelization is no longer canon but I don’t think Anakin’s thoughts would change, especially when it comes to how his force ghost would look like. I do think that it’s fair if people prefer Shaw for out of universe reasons but in universe, Anakin probably wouldn’t want to look like that.
I agree with most of Lucas' changes. I love how he added an actual city to Cloud city in both the backgrounds and in the windows. I also love how he added more characters to the scene with Luke and Ben in Mos Isley spaceport. If people are going to be offended, then pick on JarJar Binks because he's the one character I never liked.
The Yoda puppet used in the prequel was a new puppet. The original RoTJ was destroyed so a new one was made. However, it's likeness was way off from the original. They used CGI to compensate for the ganja smoking Yoda puppet in the prequel. Vader ceased to exist when he saved Luke from Palpatine. Anakin was no longer young, but old. Therefore, the original Shaw version should have been kept intact. Consider Luke's response to the appearance of the three force ghosts. Do you honestly think he'd recognize his dad being young when the first time he saw him was pulling off the Vader mask on the second Death Star? The Christiansen version would make sense only if Qui-Gon was included. After all, he was the original force ghost who saw everything going on before Obi-Wan and Yoda died. I liked the original Star Wars as they were originally released. I didn't need expansion or explanation. I enjoyed the concept and the story. My biggest issue with Star Wars is when Lucas decided to make Anakin and Vader to be the same person. The prequels negate Obi-Wan calling Anakin "Darth" in the very first movie. I wish Lucas kept with his original storyline of Darth and Anakin being two different men
Actually before revenge of the sith was done filming, George Lucas told Hayden to just stand there and smile, and that's what Hayden did. He didn't know what it was for. He said if he knew he was filming that scene he would have acted differently. That’s what Hayden said in an interview
(That’s actually kinda funny* 🤣
Yes the stormtrooper head bump is funny and a satisfying noise, that's why I decided to show it 4 times in this video and talk over it every time.
seriously dude...so dumb. like actually aggravates me. its not hard to stfu for half a second so we can hear wtf hes talking about. guys fried
And not even play the sound...
It really annoyed me honestly
@@joshuas8779 copyright is why lol
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I remembered as a kid finding it weird that the actor that played the ghost looked exactly like Anakin in the prequel even if the movie came out like 20 years before
same XD without context its just SO FREAKING CONFUSING
Me too like zamn bro didn't age a day
Same
Should've been unmasked David Prowse talking to Luke at the end of ROTJ, with him as the ghost at the end. He even looked like Hayden Christensen!
Same!
The fact that he didn’t play the bump sound effect will forever haunt me
I don't know why anyone would be annoyed at Ewoks blinking. Without it they just look like teddy bears and more obvious suits, plus there is something disturbing about them having their eyes open constantly.
It's because they are disillusioned and want the product their way.
Truly the blinking doesn't stand out and it gives more life to an already dead looking creature.
Moreso most fans just can't handle the fact the effects aren't as timeless as they lie.
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I honestly don’t know if I’m one of the few but I think the Ewoks blinking made them look even more adorable.
Replacing puppet Yoda was justified. They lost the original (ESB one) and the puppet used in TPM was just a proof of concept using "modern" materials. George said "that'll do" much to the creators surprise. The CGI replacement showing Yoda 30 years younger than ESB and living in far better conditions than the swamp he eventually lived in, was a great choice.
They didn't loose the ESB Yoda. Lucas still has it in his personal archives. You can see it in tour videos of his archives.
They tried to make a "younger" Yoda puppet just for the prequels and failed.
@@-007-2 , because the puppet looked older in episode 1 and that wasn't the intent. I still don't like the cartoon version should have just reshot it practically with another puppet. But seeing how they still couldn't get it right in Last Jedi, maybe cartoon cgi Yoda is the best alternative.
@@-007-2 My mistake, I thought that it went missing after the studio didn't want to pay the storage fees anymore and it ended up in a dumpster with a load of other SW props. I apologise for misleading anyone.
The puppet seems to be more realistic than Cgi
did they also use a puppet in teh original aotc and rots i wasn't around when they came out so i have never seen the original version?
The problem with Shaw’s Force ghost is that it looks like a 70 something year old. This is not as obvious when he is dying as he is supposed to look scarred and broken. Lucas probably hadn’t decided om Anakin’s age when writing the original trilogy, so it’s understandable that he looked this way originally, but still, the change is definitely for the better. Ideally they should edit the scene now as Christensen has the perfect age for a 40 something Anakin.
No the person who was Anakin Skywalker died as a young man, and you don't age as a ghost.
@@TomBongJovi no he died when he was 46, how is that
young
Another big problem about it is how that version never really existed. Anakin never thought or imagined that version. At that point, he just hated himself, including his appearance.
@@da-vidcargill4975 anakin died but vader survived
he looked around seventy because he WAS. Sebastian was 78 when he did that scene.
The Yoda puppet didn't stand out because of the digital environment. It stood out because the sculpt of the puppet was horribly inconsistent from the original. Frank Oz did a fine job puppeteering Yoda in the prequels, it just never looked like the same character.
I never had a problem with Hayden Christensen replacing Shaw as Anakin's force ghost. I'm especially in favor of it now after seeing how well Hayden has aged over the last 18 years. He still looks very similar, and (unlike Shaw) is still alive for future projects. Also, younger fans would probably see Shaw's force ghost at the end of the original version of RotJ and think "Who the hell is this guy? Where's Anakin?"
Thats exactly what i thought seeing rotj as a kid lmao
It's dumb. It's arbitrary. And everytime I see it, I see Luke thinking "Who the f*** are you?"
@@ericmatthews8497 I'm sorry you feel that way.
@@ericmatthews8497I always prefered Hayden in that scene, but what you said makes a lot.of sense. I mean, imagine seeing your father looking younger than you out of nowhere. That would be shocking
The fact that the child-murderer, mass-murderer, planet-destroying killing machine becomes an angel-force-ghost just because he protected his own flesh and blood from death at the final moments of a 99% amoral Hitler-like life, is more troubling than any actor swapping...
Its just weird that we never saw Anakin wearing those classic Jedi Robes
True that is weird
Controversial opinion: Since Lucas already updated the movies once, Disney should update them again to make the more consistent with the prequels and other canon shows. I'm not talking changing stories here, I mean just updating some of the really aged late-90s CGI, or tweaking small things to make them internally self-consistent like what Lucas did with Vader/Anakin's eyebrows.
Then they should add all the original and modified cuts in bonus features to acknowledge how the movie effects changed over time (perhaps with commentary as to why it changed too).
They would never do that since Disney loathes anything that George did or more in line Kathleen Kennedy loathes anything he did
Yeah eventually they should go back and do the same they did in the rerelease in the 90s
Yes, the 90s CGI is cringy and should be redone by Lucas film.
They should also release the movies in three formats for you to choose to watch: 1) the OG releases 2) the Special Edition releases 3) the new 2020+ Remaster releases (yet to be made)
@@-007-2 This!!
Don't give them ideas. Unless there's a shift in executives at Disney, Anakin will be retconned to be a gay black woman and Luke her adopted neurodiverse trans lover.
It was good showing Naboo and other planets celebrating at the end of ROTJ.
They too had been bullied by the Empire and it makes the Rebels victory seem more universal.
Your argument for adding blinking to the Dianoga works equally well for the adding of blinking to the Ewoks.
I believe the change to hayden christiansen is smart, because if you think of it, Anakin, before he turned to the dark side, was Hayden, and when he was turned back he was still burned and gross, so in his force ghost he chose to look like the original Anakin. Idk, those are just my thoughts.
Moronic
I also think too Obi-Wan only knew what Anakin looked like as Hayden. Demasked Vader looked so deformed that regular Shaw would probably not be recognized by Obi-Wan. I mean, rules in Jedi heaven are probably different but I think using a human form that Obi-Wan and Yoda knew (Hayden) makes more sense
Anakin redeemed himself in the end so his force ghost should represent how he looks then.
Out of morbid curiosity, I would like to see Mr. Christensen do the whole back to Light/death scene. I wouldn't want it actually replaced in the movie, but I would like to see it. Of course, I'm still a little salty over my favorite cut scene being in A New Hope. I love the scene with the big furry human Jaba in the hanger, I still don't think that ILM can or will be able to make the slug look good.
I could not face rewatching _A New Hope_ for roughly a decade just because of that scene. Thank the force for Harmy's Despecialized Edition.
I think it was the worst of the changes. It actually undermines the story. You see Han pushing Jabba around. It makes Jabba less threatening and undermines the plot line of Han having a bounty on his head. They should have left that scene out.
@@theduke7616 That's my point. I loved watching that scene, in the cut scenes, on the BTS and documentary featurettes. The addition of it was 1) redundant, we had all the information from Gredo 2) the having to add Han stepping over Jaba's tail is overly ridiculous.
What annoys me more than all those unnecessary tweaks is that the original versions are no longer available. I would like to watch the film as I remembered it as a kid in '77, not as an adult in '97.
You, and about a bazillion other people, pal, lol.
If you haven't heard of _Harmy's Despecialized Editions,_ allow me to recommend. They are the bomb. They are not supposed to be bought and sold at all, yet it is quite possible to do so if long downloads are not agreeable.
I'm amazed that neither Lucasfilm nor Disney has re-released the original films as the "Classic Edition." Getting fans to buy the original trilogy get again seems like a no-brainer way to make more money.
@@joshuawilkinson6121 George considers the special editions as the "original trilogy", so he probably kept the one's we love in the deal, and buried them for all time.
@@lookingforwookiecopilot The word around the campfire is that Lucas never sold the rights to the original theatrical versions to Disney, so Disney simply couldn't release them even if they wanted to. He also deliberately allowed much of the original film stock to degrade so that it could never be re-used for that purpose. In the late 90s he was cheerfully declaring that in 20 to 30 years, his edited versions of the OT would be the only ones in existence.
In my opinion, I love the Hayden Christensen Ghost! The Sebastian Shaw Ghost is great, too! Both are phenomenal actors, in my opinion!
The Ewoks blinking is fine. After all, they living in a forest and can get things in their eyes like we do.
I got the original trilogy on VHS tapes and I'm wondering if it's Shaw or Hayden as Anakin...
Also, in Ahsoka Hayden is perfect as the Force Ghost of Annie, cause he knew what he was doing...
The scene was filmed in 2004 during the revenge of the site tapings so it wouldn’t be there since the vhs are from 97 and Hayden would have been 16 at the time 😂
The change I like the most is replacing the Emporer with a woman's face and monkey eyes to be replaced by Ian McDiarmid playing the Emporer in the vision.
It makes it consistent and looks better (and seeing McDiarmid play the Emporer anytime is good).
Emperor* But yeah, you're pretty much right. Although I have to admit I'm a little torn on the dialogue change. Also, Clive Revill (the guy that originally voiced the Emperor in EZB) had a great voice.
@@metalboy5150 The Empire Zrikes Back
The tractor beam thing in English (I mean it's labelled "Tractor beam" pretty, obvious exposition, is akin to the original Batman, which had signs everywhere telling everyone the obvious: "bat computer", bat-microwave oven" etc. What would have been funnier is if Obiwan had to type in on a key pad, the Admin password "admin" and the password, "password".
I definitely never heard anyone complain about The Phantom Menace Yoda change, there was something odd looking about that puppet
Eyebrows were burned off in Revenge of the Sith, so it makes sense they'd be gone, what's odd is Rebels brought them back like in an attempt to just boycott the special edition or something like that lol 😝
I literally didn't even know those white blips were supposed to be the X-Wings taking off before the special edition
Many would disagree with the Ani ghost, I just figured they did it so they could use him later since the late Sebastian Shaw wasn't avaliable, but Disney didn't use that opportunity in any of their sequels to George's originals
My head canon on the Ani ghost scene is that the young him is just what his mind associates with the good part of him, while the old, burned man is the pathetic, evil man that he doesn't want anything to do with anymore
@@williusmac891 Or just his perfect self, physically and mentally.
The real sacrilege would have been replacing Sir Alec with Ewan in that final ROTJ scene.
I agree with you. They must never do this because it would be absurd.
I’m not a fan of the special editions but one change in A New Hope I actually always liked was the Millennium Falcon rising out of the hanger on Mos Eisley. It’s a cool shot that gives the scene a little extra flair.
The head bump is kinda tragic because the guy who played the Stormtrooper actually got a serious concussion & now we just laughing at his pain…
And Viggo Mortensen (as Aragorn) broke two toes while kicking a helmet and screaming in grief for the scene. Sometimes the actors' real pain becomes our entertainment.
Oh... 😶🌫
It makes sense that he changed some things to fit the prequels, but it would have made even more sense if he had remembered the continuity of the originals and written the prequels around them instead, maybe?
It was not only the matt lines that were fixed in the Hoth scenes -originally because of the optical printer's problem with white things on white backgrounds, everything with snowy backgrounds where see-through and looked like ghosts.
They should update Anakin's ghost as Hayden is almost the same age as Anakin now. Also they could reshoot Anakin's death scene with Hayden (while editing in young Hamill). Of course that would mean removing Sebastian Shaw from episode 6 completely.
There is one thing which isn't on the list but should have been. Changing Palpatine in the hologram in Empire strikes back. At first, he was portrayed by Marjorie Eaton with a mask, while Clive Revill voiced him. In the new version, Palpatine was portrayed by Ian McDiarmid, who portrayed him in other movies.
the title of the video says "more" in it because there was another video before this. that video had the palpatine replacement mentioned in it.
Personally think the CG X-wings do not look as real but the shot improvements are worth it. For continuity, inserting Hayden into the unmasking scene would have been great. Nerd nitpick, wasn't Aurebesh introduced in ESB on Luke's X-wing monitor?
1:46 NAH these some devious ah eye brows this shit was necessary
I think it would be cool if in the force ghost scene it starts with Sebastian, and transitions to Hayden. At the same time, have Alec transition to Ewan.
The change I DO NOT approve is the part on Degobah when Luke said to R2 “You’re lucky you don’t taste very good.” in the original Empire Strikes Back. In the edited version Luke says “You’re lucky to get out of there” which weakens the comedy of the situation
The helmet bump sound was in the ‘93 laserdisc version… way before the DVD release. I do not have any earlier versions of Star Wars, but it was added as early as that Laserdisc at least. I think it was caught during post production of the original release, so I’ve heard
(1:28) Even before Revenge of the Sith, the story of why Darth Vader was given the life-support suit was close to what we ended up with. In the novelization, the conversation between Obi-Wan and Luke was extended, where Obi-Wan describes a similar event to Revenge of the Sith.
I pose a simple question for anyone who says the Hayden force ghost is justified. Would you have cared if it wasnt changed at all? Sure, you like the change but you cant tell me that you needed it. Its disrespectful to the guy who got replaced. That was his most iconic scene as an actor. George Lucas gave him the middle finger and stomped on the old mans grave.
i dont care that it’s ‘disrespectful’ as it made the scene better
@@annab4r Its better with Hayden? Didn't Vader turn back to the light side before he died? That was the entire point. Its also weird that Vader would show up as someone Luke hasn't seen. This is why you don't screw with 20 year old movies that have a huge fanbase. Maybe we should make the prequels better by deleting Jar Jar. And every time they say "Ani" in episode 1, it needs to be dubbed "Anakin" so Darth Vader isn't turned into girl.
I would've cared. It would've bugged me, if not much, then a little. Sure it's disrespectful, which is something I'll give you in a heartbeat, but that doesn't break it for me.
They need to put back the Ewok song "Yub Nub" at the end of Return of the Jedi. I dont care for the replacement tune. Hayden as Anakin's force ghost is cool though.
3:18 I just noticed the sarlacc kinda looks like a pistachio 😂
They need to replace Alec Mcguiness with Ewan McGregor as Ghost Obi-Wan Kenobi in The Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi to is resembles his decade self that the Ewan McGregor version.
They can remove an eyebrow using CGI meanwhile DC trying so bad to remove Henry Cavil's mustache
5 second take vs whole movies take is diferent tho...
It only makes me watch the movies again to find the scenes that you mentioned. That's pretty much what I have to say 😊
The storm trooper who bumps his head, I heard tell it's David Prowse(Darth Vader) who was being used because they needed an extra trooper and who was taller than the rest of the extras on the scene which is why the door was either not designed to go higher or whose ever job it was to raise it didn't raise it enough and since Prowse had trouble seeing out of the helmet, he didn't see enough to be able to stoop a bit. I'd love it if someone can tell me if I'm right or wrong on this.
Empire Strikes Back: Replacing the Emperor played by some guy in a generic, goofy mask with the man himself, actor Ian McDiarmid.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who likes the changes. I recently watched the Star Wars saga beginning with the prequels. Without the CGI enhancements, the original trilogy just would NOT follow the prequel trilogy in a continuous way. CGI was such an integral aspect of the prequels' aesthetic, it wouldn't work to follow them with films devoid of CGI. Besides, for the most part, the CGI enhancements allow us to enjoy the 1970's charm without the 1970's limitations. They're the films as George Lucas intended they should be. And I love that!
Yoda at 1:02 honesty looks evil 😂
That Yoda puppet is a thing of nightmares.
The Ewok Celebration Song replacement at the end of Return of the Jedi was never justified.
I guess it really depends on what generation you come from. Growing up with the OT, what was once known as the "Special Editions", the CGI in Star Wars did greatly improve the space battle. Restoring the Jabba scene was cool...except for stepping on his tail. I didn't like what Lucas and his team did with Empire at all, and believe since he wasn't its director, wasn't his movie to change or butcher in places. ROTJ is what it is, but Anakin was a much older man at death, and just seems odd to see the younger version of him instead.
As it is, the OT is completely distributed and streamed as what was once known the "Special Editions". I know there are many of us that still would like to see the original theatrical versions sold on blu-ray quality, flaws and all.
I like the original ending of return of the Jedi it's nice to see what anikin would have turned out of he didn't join the dark side
replacing Shaw with christianson was incredibly disrespectful to Shaw and his family and also if you look at it logically noone would recognize a younger Anakin where as Luke save Shaw's version of Anakin
I think it is the same reason Rian gave for not having Hayden in Last Jedi. Luke wouldn't recognize him because Vader was Shaw. So they had Puppet Yoda instead.
Its funny to thing that hayden christensen is 42 years old and darth vader was 45 when he died, so hayden is now old enough to play vader at the time of his death but yet in shows like ahsoka they still deaged him...
One change that hasn't been made, but needs to be done, is in A New Hope when Luke realizes the stormtroopers attacked the Jawas' sandcrawler because they were looking for R2 and 3P0, and says, "If they traced the robots here, that means they could find out who they sold them to". In the Star Wars universe, R2 and 3P0 are NOT robots. They're droids. It seems like it would be pretty simple to copy and paste an audio clip of Hammill saying "droids" into that scene...
For the X wings leaving Yavin 4 and assembling I always liked that change, why couldn’t the tower watching guy (with no way to get up there or down for a break) be removed as a change?
It makes as much sense as only being able to get in and out of an X-Wing with a giant ladder.
The bucket lowers down as discovered in the LEGO Skywalker Saga video game.
Removing the man from the tower is a terrible idea, it is an iconic shot. I suspect the the tower would lower the man to the ground.
@@OmegaPointZen Especially if it's telescopic. Then again, I didn't see a hanger crew available on Dagobah to remove the ladder Luke needed to get into his X-Wing. Maybe Yoda did it? 🙄 And how did that large ladder get there in the first place?
Because they weren't gonna remove Lorne Peterson.
The first movie is called Star Wars.
What is the background music
Replacing Shaw with Christensen is a non sense, just as much as Lucas wanted us to believe that Anakin became Vader "to save the one he loved". Save her from what and to do what? She would have never agree with Anakin killing younglings to save her baby (among other things). And he knew that very well. Returning to this point. Young Anakin did a lot of atrocious things with no valid reason (according to the story). Old Anakin is actually the one who loved his son so much that did the ultimate sacrifice to save him. At that point if by some mambo jumbo that cannot be explained, he became a Force Ghost just like this, it's fine, but the one who deserves this is the old Anakin, not the young one who was so foolish and evil.
Anakin wasn't old
Nah it was a good change
I never once watched any of the stars wars films in my entire lifetime, I was a wee kid when the movies with anakin and obi wan came out back then and I never got the chance to actually see any of the movies growing up as a kid, my parents weren’t into that, nobody in my family was into that and I jsut never bothered to get into it until I turned about 20 then decided to finally watch all the films after all the years of wanting to be part of the fandom and after listening to the many many family guy references , I watched the films and that shit was good I was over there looking at professional light sabers after I got done with all of them, but the point is , the movies made by George Lucas were badass and a major staple , and I saw Return of the Jedi for the first time I thought it was so dope to see Hayden Christensen as one of the ghost , and because I watched the movies in theatrical release I was surprised as hella when I seen him as one of the ghost cause growing up as a kid I remember seeing Hayden’s face everywhere when the phantom menace came out and everything after that, I knew Hayden as that dude from Star Wars that turns into dearth Vader, so watching his ghost appear in the 6th episode was a dope first time watch for me because in my head I was like there’s no way, but this movie came out like years ago, and I was just completely stunned and it wasn’t until I looked it up that I saw it was cgi and that wasn’t the original cut , it still made me feel good that I got to watch the movies for the first time with all the George Lucas edits and changes.
I absolutely respect your opinion, and you aren't wrong; however, there are a couple of things I feel differently about.
Replacing puppet Yoda. I liked the puppet. That said, I'm biased: I've done puppets on TV. (I suspect it's one of those however you first saw it, will be the one you prefer.)
Replacing Shaw with Christensen. I happen to think it was unfortunate that they took Shaw's final moments away. Maybe they could've started with one, and had him age (or de-age) to the other?
As always thank you so very much for the videos.
While I don’t mind the puppet, I mean ESB Yoda is great. TPM Yoda looked really bad imo. It looked very greasy and I guess that was to make him look younger, but it doesn’t match up to the rest of the prequel movies. So I’m that sense replacing the puppet for CG I can understand, if anything for continuity sake.
They kind of did do the Shaw and Hayden being his ghost in canon now. In one of the novels that takes place before the ST, Anakin’s ghost(Hayden) does show up and something happens to his ghost where it would revert back to when he was Shaw after Luke takes his mask off.
Still, in universe, I don’t think healed Shaw as his ghost would make sense. Anakin himself doesn’t know that version or has ever thought of that.
I wonder how it would look with Shaw and Christensen's faces put together... 🤣🤣! I love both actors, by the way!
@@CatherineLee3000 I share your opinion of the actors. (I really liked Christensen in "Life As A House" with Kevin Kline.)
Of all the changes made over the years the one thing that has never been changed is when Leia calls "Luke!" and Luke yelling "Carrie!" as he's getting out of his X-Wing at the end of A New Hope. Am I the only person to notice that? Nobody re-editing the movies has.
Actually, Luke yelled "there she-", intending to yell "there she is" but was cut off by Leia's hug.
This comes from Mark Hamill himself and is supported by George Lucas.
I noticed it as well at the end of Star Wars.
@@williamseneyjr.6277 No, he say "CARRIE!" very clearly, there are a few videos on it so I'm not the only one. Mark said that the line was dubbed, then he claimed he said "There she", but why not add in "is!" if it was dubbed, why not finish the sentence if that's what he intended to say? And he also said it was simply a shriek and not words at all but it's clearly a word. Mark obviously doesn't remember it clearly. I think Mark knows he screwed up but just trolling his fans, it wouldn't be the first time he's done it.
I've watched that scene carefully and never heard intelligible words. Always sounded like a happy scream to me.
I know Obi Wan learned how to return in the afterlife, but I don't recall Annikin learning...
Fun Fact: BEHOLD Jar Jar Binks... The TRUE...Sith Lord all along...
The ghost change is the right call. Vader is only 45 when he dies yet that other actor is like 60+
My issue with Anakin’s force ghost replacement is that it kinda pulls away the idea that Anakin himself came back, took his life back from Darth Vader, and redeemed himself in the end. I think that an aged Hayden (maybe makeup or a little bit of digital age, it’s easy to hide that behind the blue filter) would’ve been better.
I have a better solution for the Shaw/Christensen dilemma: Make Anakin's force ghost initially be the one of Sebastian Shaw, then he blurs into Hayden Christensen.
Now add a CGI of Obi-Wan's Alec Guiness impressed, and he tries to do the same and becomes Ewan McGregor.
Hell, go a step beyond, put a CGI'd younger Liam Neeson as Qui-Gon showing up behind them and then show Luke as a CGI'd Young Mark Hamill looking at the scene with utter confusion!
The force ghost change was okay. One of the perks of being the Chosen One is you get to choose what your force ghost looks like and Anakin himself preferred his appearance when he was younger.
What they did to Mos Eisley in a new hope is just painful
The return of the Jedi in my public library has a dvd of the OG force Anakin
I only thought Anakin looked dumb in RoJ because he went back to his young self while Obi Wan was still an old man
I think Anakin’s force ghost should of been in his black Jedi robes.
The Hayden Christensen change makes sense because Sebastian Shaw was how Anakin was supposed to look before so it makes sense, to stay consistent
I've see Star Wars many times. I never noticed the storm trooper bumping his head though. Interesting.
I've seen it a hundred times and never noticed it was Hayden's head superimposed over Shaw. I simply thought they had Hayden re-film the entire presentation and swapped.
Now they can fully insert Hayden as the dying Vader. Hopefully not, to respect the original actor who was already replaced in ROTJ.
thank god yoda was replaced, puppet yoda is nightmare material 😭
Those who object to Hayden Christensen replacing Sebastian Shaw need only remembering that around the same time, some creators wanted to replace Alec Guinness with Ewan McGregor as the Force ghost of Obi-Wan. However, Lucas shut that idea down, because in his eyes, Ewan McGregor could easily evolve into Alec Guinness, given a few decades (which he is, given what we got in the show). However, since Anakin did quote unquote die when he became Vader, we needed to see Anakin as he was before that. Still, the original ghost does show what would have been if Anakin never became Vader, but that's a whole different debate. I prefer seeing Hayden over Sebastian Shaw.
How did Han shot first not make the list?
They still haven't done anything about the A wing crashing into the star destroyer bridge.
I read that Lucas didn't tell Hayden why he wanted to him to dress up like that to film him. I wish he had because he just looks goofy standing there grinning. He could have at least given a better performance if he knew he was going to be a redeemed Anakin force ghost.
what else could he do other than grim
@@annab4r He could have ACTED.
Lucas did it as a way to reward Hayden. He didn't even tell him til later he was in the 2004 DVD release. It was a gift to the actor. And it was gracious even if it makes no sense. Its like the Stewjon thing. Lucas does these things sometimes.
@@matthewgaudet4064 "Remember that time I made you stand there grinning like an idiot as I filmed? Here's a gift for you! Now be gracious.".
In my opinion original ending in return of the jedy is more appropriate an oldman Anakin that a young Anakin because anakin changes his appearance through 20 years
I can guarantee it wasn't just prequel fans that were defending the Hayden-in-RotJ change.
Its changes like removing Sebastian shaw that make me never give up my un altered vhs tapes of the original trilogy.
Lucasfilm seriously needs to let the fans choose an edit that they want to buy and release them all.
You robbed us! Not even at the end did you play the bump. Sheesh
This video is a real pain
The script and the voice over is just, uuuuh
Maybe 2005 Hayden doesn't make sense to be in ROTJ. But maybe he can come back in 5-10 years (whenever he's the correct age) and reshoot both the unmasking and force ghost scenes. Then we don't need to worry about the "wrong age" thing??
Nope wrong, Anakin Skywalker, not Darth Vader died as a young man.
Anakin Skywalker died in ROTS, the movies make it very clear after the he is no longer Anakin, and the Obi Wan show just further proves that point, there was no saving him at that time.
the thumbnail my dad always told me that happened lol
i agree whit 9 out of 10 so great list well done what culture
I'd say the windows in Bespin
I believe the change in Anakin’s force ghost was completely ridiculous
why
@@puuko9874 because he went from the age of 62 to 21 in a matter of seconds. Makes no sense. Also, most say that is because that was the last point in which Anakin was good, but that’s not true. He died a good man.
but its not about being good
But he never looked like Shaw. He looked like burned when he died. So if you want to talk about continuity, then him suddenly becoming unrecognizable (as in becoming non burned shaw) would make no sense, because he never looked like that. Whereas the force ghost represents their inner self and their relationship to the light side, which would mean at the end of the movie, when darth Vader went back to the light side, his inner self reverted back to when he was last with the light side, as Hayden Christensen’s a anakin. Where as obiwan and toda grew old with the light side which makes sense why they look older. This is how it makes sense to me.
Also darth Vader was in his 40’s when he died so making him look like a grandpa makes no sense. Going by your logic then Christensen’s Anakins force ghost is better because he looks closer to that age. But I believe he reverts back to just before he went to the dark side.
Disagree, the Hayden Christensen force ghost makes no sense! Anakin never truly "died" when he became Vader. He was just suppressed by Vader until the end when he returned to the light.
exactly, he died as an older man, a man who as returned to and has been restored by the light side. the ghost should look like shaw. i get the attempt to 'connect' it to the prequels, i get that christensen is more recognizable as anakin, but i don't like the inconsistency. i also agree yoda and obiwan should be pissed they don't get to choose their younger "hotter" forms as ghosts, lol.
you do realise Anakin was only 42 when he died in ROJ, while Sebastian Shaw is great he makes Anakin look like he's in his 70's. the new shot is closer in age ascetically than the old shot.
@@AnimeManiac1987 No it doesn't. Hayden looks too young, because he is too young.
@@stevegallo8483 then maybe they should change it again cause hayden is around the right age now
@@AnimeManiac1987 that's because George Lucas tought it was a good idea to retcon anakins age!
The updated ending of Return of the Jedi surpasses the original in every way.
Chaning Anikin from Sebastian Shaw to Hayden Christensen might make sense if he wasn't the only one changed. If anything, it makes the rules here so much murkier. He's younger, why isn't Yoda or Obi Wan? They could have changed all the force ghosts. Plus, we only minutes before saw Shaw as the reformed Anikin, why bring in a third actor in one movie to portray the physical character? It really wasn't justified at all.
Anakin had different circumstances from other two. Yoda and Kenobi didn’t turn to the dark side and/or get their appearances altered after doing so. With Anakin, he was burned alive after turning to the dark when he was in his 20s. I think in universe, it makes less sense with an old and heal version of Shaw since Anakin has never looked like that nor would he know about that one. There is other support in expanded lore that supports the idea that Anakin would most likely appear as his younger self when he was a force ghost.
@@Deathpool_04yes exactly! The force ghost is a representation of your inner self coupled with your relationship with the light side. Anakin never looked like unburned Shaw, so why would that be his inner self? Christensen’s Anakin would be the version of himself that he recognizes, now that he’s back to the light side. Plus Darth Vader died in his 40s so his unburned self wouldn’t look like an 80 year old man anyways
@@pro_kate5756 You should read the ROTJ Novelization. The way he describes his younger self and how that’s when he had a lot of the good things in his life compared to when he was an old man as Darth Vader, supports that he’d want to appear as how he did before he became Vader. Yes, he fulfilled the prophecy as an old man but that wouldn’t change his thoughts on his younger self and how there’s nothing that supports him even wanting to appear as a much older but healed version of himself. At most, he’d look like middle aged Hayden. He only looked much older because of him getting burned alive and being on the dark side.
@@Deathpool_04 I definitely will! Anakin/Darth Vader’s lore is so interesting and I’ve only really gotten my info from TH-cam videos.
@@pro_kate5756 I will mention that the ROTJ novelization is no longer canon but I don’t think Anakin’s thoughts would change, especially when it comes to how his force ghost would look like.
I do think that it’s fair if people prefer Shaw for out of universe reasons but in universe, Anakin probably wouldn’t want to look like that.
The stormtrooper head bump noise was in the original
I agree with most of Lucas' changes. I love how he added an actual city to Cloud city in both the backgrounds and in the windows. I also love how he added more characters to the scene with Luke and Ben in Mos Isley spaceport. If people are going to be offended, then pick on JarJar Binks because he's the one character I never liked.
Nobody. Not a single soul, is actually complaining about Anakin’s eyebrows.
I am
The Stormtrooper Head bump was done by Jango in Ep2 getting Into Slave 1. I Think Lucas did this on Purpose
Ok those eyebrows were insane
the main reason the prequels are more accepted roday is the mostly disastrous disney star wars films
The Yoda puppet used in the prequel was a new puppet. The original RoTJ was destroyed so a new one was made. However, it's likeness was way off from the original. They used CGI to compensate for the ganja smoking Yoda puppet in the prequel.
Vader ceased to exist when he saved Luke from Palpatine. Anakin was no longer young, but old. Therefore, the original Shaw version should have been kept intact. Consider Luke's response to the appearance of the three force ghosts. Do you honestly think he'd recognize his dad being young when the first time he saw him was pulling off the Vader mask on the second Death Star?
The Christiansen version would make sense only if Qui-Gon was included. After all, he was the original force ghost who saw everything going on before Obi-Wan and Yoda died.
I liked the original Star Wars as they were originally released. I didn't need expansion or explanation. I enjoyed the concept and the story. My biggest issue with Star Wars is when Lucas decided to make Anakin and Vader to be the same person. The prequels negate Obi-Wan calling Anakin "Darth" in the very first movie. I wish Lucas kept with his original storyline of Darth and Anakin being two different men
I've watched two of these videos now, and agree with you 19 out of 20 times.
Sabastian Shaw was great in X-Men: First Class!