If people want to understand teh true nature of these characters than the only real way of doing that is by reading the book. I know that it's a very long story to read but you can't get the full understanding of any of these characters without reading it. The book is one of the most brilliant pieces of literature ever written.
@@DoctorChained Heavily implied, other characters wanted to tell Pierre but he ignored them until Dolokhov began mocking him. Dolokhov was not the last man Helene had an affair with.
@@johnboy2349 Well, I'm not that far into the reading yet, but I got past the duell, and Tolstoy (through the eyes of Rostov explains the nature of that brawler and bully, "..., when as if tired by everyday life, he had felt a need to escape from it by strange, and usually cruel, action." W+P is so not feminist literature, simply because women hadn't had the opportunity yet to just display we do share, if not all, but a lot of the same traits - but, when you're 50+, you come from a time yourself when you were used to look past those kind of imperfections, concerning any works of fiction, fact. This scene here is btw. unusually close to how I invisioned it myself (the, "eagerly biting into the snow", included), ha!
I just had to remember that this is (mostly) a British show and they got Paul Dano just because no one else should play Pierre when Paul Dano is available
God this scene...there are so many scenes throughout this miniseries that are incredibly well acted, and this is one. The instant regret in Pierre as soon as he sees what the reality of dueling is, the willingness to give his own life up out of guilt. M And Dolokhov is both a monster and incredibly vulnerable. He's channeling the last of his volatility and fierceness, while knowing in his heart that he's probably going to die. There's no glory in it, just pain, and both actors convey that well.
When I imagined Pierre while reading the book, this was exactly the man I had in mind. Paul Dano is brilliant! Clumsy, awkward yet with a heart of gold. Too naive for the world, trying to save fellow men. Regrets all his mistakes bitterly. I was so happy when Pierre finally found happiness.
He's bound by honor to give the victim his next shot. He doesn't have to present himself full on; he can turn to his side, but he can't run or retreat. By giving himself full on, he increased his measure of honor. In those days, word would have spread like wildfire.
@@nekhlioudovbolkonsky2901 He did go through a lot of development. I think all the characters did but Pierre's development was something else. It was so rich. But that's my take on it. The book is a masterpiece. I wish I can read Russian just so I can read the original.
Класс! Даже такую деталь, которую я со школы помню - про снег который есть Долохов - даже ее учли. "Долохов опустился головой к снегу, жадно укусил снег, опять поднял голову, поправился, подобрал ноги и сел, отыскивая прочный центр тяжести. Он глотал холодный снег и сосал его; губы его дрожали, но все улыбались; глаза блестели усилием и злобой последних собранных сил. Он поднял пистолет и стал целиться."
Не читал книгу и сериал только планирую посмотреть, но тот факт, что они учли эту деталь... Сценарист и режиссёр очень внимательно читали эту книгу. И это не может не радовать!
"Dolokhov lowered his head to the snow, greedily biting into it, raised his head again, straightened, lifted his legs and sat, searching for his centre of balance. He sucked and swallowed the snow; his lips shivered, and yet he still smiled; his eyes shone with the concentration and ill-will of his last gathered strength. He raised his pistol and began to aim." "Долохов опустился головой к снегу, жадно укусил снег, опять поднял голову, поправился, подобрал ноги и сел, отыскивая прочный центр тяжести. Он глотал холодный снег и сосал его; губы его дрожали, но все улыбались; глаза блестели усилием и злобой последних собранных сил. Он поднял пистолет и стал целиться."
The fact that they make Dolokohv out to be a villain frustrates me.. he was definetly one of my favourite characters from the book (as was Pierre). In this scene Dolokohv shoots first and misses and it's then that Pierre shoots him. Instead of being angry Dolokohv immediately starts talking about his "angel mother". Because he knew his death would kill her too. He wasn't thinking of himself or petty revenge he was thinking of his mother.
Oh thanks for telling me that! I'm planning on watching the miniseries soon but as of now I've only read the book and listened to The Great Comet so I'm not that informed. Thanks :)
You're welcome. If this might come as a consolation to you, Dolokhov's later scenes with Pierre, Petya Rostov and Denisov really show his different sides as a character.
With all respect, Dolokohv is villain in the original book. Yes, he have some reminding qualities, which makes him an interesting character, but he done quite a lot of bad things, and overall doesn't seems to be a nice person.
When I read the book, I always thought this scene went so much quicker. They drew it out in the miniseries and I don't know how to feel about it. If they added in the urgency, it would have made the ambience all the more better.
Count bezukhov,, the epitome of what a man should be,,he became 7 years older through the TV series,and turned into a wonderful man,,just ordered the box set ,the one with Anthony Hopkins,,will I purchase the book,I am 63,and have recently been ill,so maybe not,or maybe buy it and be one of the masses who say I started but did not finish
Couldn’t finish the ‘72 version despite Hopkins. The other actors were too old for the characters and too British, it was more like Masterpiece Theatre than Tolstoy.
He was a great Pierre in acting and allufness. Not as I pictured him in the book of course as I thought of a hairy broad like man like an offensive lineman. Noticeably big and strong with meekness. But I liked the series altogether.
I liked the BBC version, the casting of the actors is the best of all the existing versions before. (in the Russian version, only the scene of the Battle of Borodino is better
It’s a well made series, but i disliked casting not being quite faithful to the book.. Pierre supposed to be a tall and somewhat obese young man, extremely strong too - his physique is one of the reasons why other people, who otherwise laughed at him behind his back due to his naivety and social awkwardness, would never mock him to his face (well, except for Dolohov who was kind of a maniac). Same thing with Dolohov - in the series he looks like a cossack, hair and mustache all over the place, and altercation between him and Pierre seems more like an accident, like he didn’t anticipate Pierre to challenge him.While in the book, he’s depicted as thin, shaved, short-haired officer with fine facial features, ever-defying cold stare and this slight arrogant smirk on his face. He’s the type of guy who would, out of sheer boredom, insult you in public by implying they slept with your wife, accept your challenge and kill you the next morning, nice and early; if not, they challenge you themselves over nothing and still kill you - cause you’re rich, and sloppy, and you annoy them. In the book, Dolohov really did get under reader’s skin, ice-cold, sociopathic yet definitely brave and likable. None of that was expressed in the series
Is it? I haven't read it in a while but from what I can remember from the scene in the book, it's depicted rather accurately here with only a few things being omitted.
Pierre was a HUGE FAT TALL MAN, real STRONGMAN, Tolstoy always stressed it. And here we see a subtile young boy who can't even hold a pistol, so all the scene goes wrong.
He's holding the pistol exactly how he's supposed to be holding the pistol. Pierre had no idea how to shoot a gun. Tolstoy describes him as holding the gun far away from his body because he was afraid of it going off at any time. This scene is almost exactly as Tolstoy wrote it.
His build far too small in this movie. He is supposed to be tall, and massive. Yes, fat as, they say, and fatter later on. What fat meant then is subject to comparison , true.
If people want to understand teh true nature of these characters than the only real way of doing that is by reading the book. I know that it's a very long story to read but you can't get the full understanding of any of these characters without reading it. The book is one of the most brilliant pieces of literature ever written.
The book never started Helene actually cheated with dolokhov. But I guess it's implied right?
@@DoctorChained Heavily implied, other characters wanted to tell Pierre but he ignored them until Dolokhov began mocking him. Dolokhov was not the last man Helene had an affair with.
@@j.martinez8767 Dolokhov really was a despicable character but there are some instances when you ca symphatize with him.
@@johnboy2349 Well, I'm not that far into the reading yet, but I got past the duell, and Tolstoy (through the eyes of Rostov explains the nature of that brawler and bully, "..., when as if tired by everyday life, he had felt a need to escape from it by strange, and usually cruel, action." W+P is so not feminist literature, simply because women hadn't had the opportunity yet to just display we do share, if not all, but a lot of the same traits - but, when you're 50+, you come from a time yourself when you were used to look past those kind of imperfections, concerning any works of fiction, fact. This scene here is btw. unusually close to how I invisioned it myself (the, "eagerly biting into the snow", included), ha!
@@johnboy2349 as i have read, he was a good son and brother
I just had to remember that this is (mostly) a British show and they got Paul Dano just because no one else should play Pierre when Paul Dano is available
Wow, that's so crazy. Cuz Paul Dano is the best Pierre ever
Trueee 👏🏼
Paul Dano is a severely underrated actor. Never seen him in a bad piece.
God this scene...there are so many scenes throughout this miniseries that are incredibly well acted, and this is one. The instant regret in Pierre as soon as he sees what the reality of dueling is, the willingness to give his own life up out of guilt. M
And Dolokhov is both a monster and incredibly vulnerable. He's channeling the last of his volatility and fierceness, while knowing in his heart that he's probably going to die. There's no glory in it, just pain, and both actors convey that well.
One of best miniseries for tv ever made.
paul dano is great
Ne He’s good but limited by a week script. But Anthony Hopkins portrayal of Pierre is beyond comparison
Love him singing about how blacks would run.
Hes the riddler in the upcoming new batman movie
Missed, missed
Oh my mother, my angel
My adoréd angel mother
When I imagined Pierre while reading the book, this was exactly the man I had in mind. Paul Dano is brilliant! Clumsy, awkward yet with a heart of gold. Too naive for the world, trying to save fellow men. Regrets all his mistakes bitterly. I was so happy when Pierre finally found happiness.
1:30 Dolokhov: "Its not over yet...." *Eats snow*
Mr. Lincoln I would like to say that you are one of the two most open minded presidents
He's bound by honor to give the victim his next shot. He doesn't have to present himself full on; he can turn to his side, but he can't run or retreat. By giving himself full on, he increased his measure of honor. In those days, word would have spread like wildfire.
Pierre is still one of the most complicated characters that I have read.
@@nekhlioudovbolkonsky2901 He did go through a lot of development. I think all the characters did but Pierre's development was something else. It was so rich. But that's my take on it. The book is a masterpiece. I wish I can read Russian just so I can read the original.
Im in love with Paul Dano
wow I sure do love the Great Comet of 1812
Класс! Даже такую деталь, которую я со школы помню - про снег который есть Долохов - даже ее учли. "Долохов опустился головой к снегу, жадно укусил снег, опять поднял голову, поправился, подобрал ноги и сел, отыскивая прочный центр тяжести. Он глотал холодный снег и сосал его; губы его дрожали, но все улыбались; глаза блестели усилием и злобой последних собранных сил. Он поднял пистолет и стал целиться."
Yes, I do not see in other filmed versions that Dolokhov actually bites the snow before shooting. This one shows it!
No, in the film adaptation of 1965, he also eats snow
Не читал книгу и сериал только планирую посмотреть, но тот факт, что они учли эту деталь... Сценарист и режиссёр очень внимательно читали эту книгу. И это не может не радовать!
Dave Malloy really did turn line-for-line into lyrics...
oh you have no idea
really love paul dano! so cute
Dolokhov is fierce. But not too important
ANATOLE'S FRIEND, A CRAZY GOOD SHOT
Poor bewildered and awkward Pierre
he's not THAT good of a shot, apparently
It’s dawned on him suddenly, and for no obvious reason, that he can’t go on living as he is.
I love you guys so much!
"Dolokhov lowered his head to the snow, greedily biting into it, raised his head again, straightened, lifted his legs and sat, searching for his centre of balance. He sucked and swallowed the snow; his lips shivered, and yet he still smiled; his eyes shone with the concentration and ill-will of his last gathered strength. He raised his pistol and began to aim."
"Долохов опустился головой к снегу, жадно укусил снег, опять поднял голову, поправился, подобрал ноги и сел, отыскивая прочный центр тяжести. Он глотал холодный снег и сосал его; губы его дрожали, но все улыбались; глаза блестели усилием и злобой последних собранных сил. Он поднял пистолет и стал целиться."
from the best tv series who i saw in my life
oh, a duel. yes this is what i like
@@montserratbenitez4421 thats sasuke uchiha , he will kill everybody!
Montserrat Benitez SO I SHALL BE KILLED WHAT IS IT TO YOU!!
ANATOLE, MY GUNS!
(WOOOOOOOOW, this is horribly stupid.)
@@KingdomHeartsFan3211 But let's begin.
Indeed.... In case of being hit, you were supposed to remain calm and take it coolly, but also to answer with a fire (if it was still possible)
Dolokhov is fierce. Anatole’s friend a crazy good shot.
Great comet!
The fact that they make Dolokohv out to be a villain frustrates me.. he was definetly one of my favourite characters from the book (as was Pierre). In this scene Dolokohv shoots first and misses and it's then that Pierre shoots him. Instead of being angry Dolokohv immediately starts talking about his "angel mother". Because he knew his death would kill her too. He wasn't thinking of himself or petty revenge he was thinking of his mother.
That might be the case in this drama's early episodes, but later on the drama did show Dolokhov's humanity.
Oh thanks for telling me that! I'm planning on watching the miniseries soon but as of now I've only read the book and listened to The Great Comet so I'm not that informed. Thanks :)
You're welcome. If this might come as a consolation to you, Dolokhov's later scenes with Pierre, Petya Rostov and Denisov really show his different sides as a character.
You've no doubt seen it by now but this clip ends just before he starts talking about his mother.
With all respect, Dolokohv is villain in the original book. Yes, he have some reminding qualities, which makes him an interesting character, but he done quite a lot of bad things, and overall doesn't seems to be a nice person.
I’m so impressed with Dano! And I actually liked Dolokhov! Tom Burke did a great job.
Paul dano is great but dolochov's actor is a great counter
This mini series rocks
Great book and loved this series
Dolokhovs outfit is 😍
I didn't notice until now that Denisov crosses himself as he walks away from Pierre.
I love dolokhov help
It's okay me too
pIERRE! StAND BAAAAAACK!
*_NOOOOO!!!!!!!_*
1:31 . . . . But I'm a Musketeer . . . .
I UNDERSTOOD THAT REFERENCE!!!!
@@benjaminbowman1235 But I really prefer Lucien.🙃
pierre is my favorite but i really love this dolokhov..
Pierre was like “T Pose to accept dead”
When I read the book, I always thought this scene went so much quicker. They drew it out in the miniseries and I don't know how to feel about it. If they added in the urgency, it would have made the ambience all the more better.
Pierre hold your fire-
Count bezukhov,, the epitome of what a man should be,,he became 7 years older through the TV series,and turned into a wonderful man,,just ordered the box set ,the one with Anthony Hopkins,,will I purchase the book,I am 63,and have recently been ill,so maybe not,or maybe buy it and be one of the masses who say I started but did not finish
Couldn’t finish the ‘72 version despite Hopkins. The other actors were too old for the characters and too British, it was more like Masterpiece Theatre than Tolstoy.
He was a great Pierre in acting and allufness. Not as I pictured him in the book of course as I thought of a hairy broad like man like an offensive lineman. Noticeably big and strong with meekness. But I liked the series altogether.
I think the version with Henry Fonda has become so ingrained in everyone;s mind that they all base their casting on him.
@@ajvanmarle Also Soviet version from 60s is excellent.
Anyone interested should read the book, failing (or not being able) that, I suggest watching the Russian version.
I liked the BBC version, the casting of the actors is the best of all the existing versions before. (in the Russian version, only the scene of the Battle of Borodino is better
i want to see hussars vs hussars duel.
I like when Dolokhov tied the cop to the bear 🐻
Word spread like wildfire all throughout high Petersburg society.
when a noob got his first kill with the pro
It’s a well made series, but i disliked casting not being quite faithful to the book.. Pierre supposed to be a tall and somewhat obese young man, extremely strong too - his physique is one of the reasons why other people, who otherwise laughed at him behind his back due to his naivety and social awkwardness, would never mock him to his face (well, except for Dolohov who was kind of a maniac).
Same thing with Dolohov - in the series he looks like a cossack, hair and mustache all over the place, and altercation between him and Pierre seems more like an accident, like he didn’t anticipate Pierre to challenge him.While in the book, he’s depicted as thin, shaved, short-haired officer with fine facial features, ever-defying cold stare and this slight arrogant smirk on his face. He’s the type of guy who would, out of sheer boredom, insult you in public by implying they slept with your wife, accept your challenge and kill you the next morning, nice and early; if not, they challenge you themselves over nothing and still kill you - cause you’re rich, and sloppy, and you annoy them. In the book, Dolohov really did get under reader’s skin, ice-cold, sociopathic yet definitely brave and likable. None of that was expressed in the series
By the way, the prototype of Dolokhov was a relative of Tolstoy, who killed 14 people in a duel.
Al Van watch the newly restored Russian version, i think it’s so much better, especially this scene
I like Paul Dano although you're right, he does not convey the brute strength and ferocity lying underneath Pierre's otherwise nerdy exterior.
John Boy that’s a beautiful English
And married a Romala girl despite the society
"Попрошу к барьеру..."
Pierre always clueless but lucky
this looks like a pretty gucci show, but like y'all should listen to the musical
lol, where do you think most of us came from?? ;D
The book?
WARNING : This scene is NOT real...just an enactment played by actors.
i never reading a book from alexander pushkin but i heard about he die on a duell maybe tolstoj was influence by his book
niceeeeeee scene!!👑
This version is very different from the book.
Is it? I haven't read it in a while but from what I can remember from the scene in the book, it's depicted rather accurately here with only a few things being omitted.
Very similar to the ‘66 version but I like Dano and Burke better.
can anyone one tell me about the music starts at background at 1:00??
Mashrur Afridy it’s been a year ago, but who cares)
Martin Phipps - Pierre
i was screaming for him XD i want him to win so badly! XDXD
Same
that scene yes
Yes eat the snow
Stop eating the snow
wtf is that Mike hammer ?
Pierre was a HUGE FAT TALL MAN, real STRONGMAN, Tolstoy always stressed it. And here we see a subtile young boy who can't even hold a pistol, so all the scene goes wrong.
Nevertheless, Paul Dano is the best Pierre Bezukhov in comparison with all previous movie versions
He's holding the pistol exactly how he's supposed to be holding the pistol. Pierre had no idea how to shoot a gun. Tolstoy describes him as holding the gun far away from his body because he was afraid of it going off at any time. This scene is almost exactly as Tolstoy wrote it.
@@rodjarrow6575yes Bondarchuk in the Russian version was too old!
Dolokhov doesn't look as handsome in this series as I expected from reading the book
I see the appeal. In the Russian version he was too effete.
I personally hate how pierre potrayed in this. He seems too young
and not fat as he is supposed to be.
Alexander Beyer did a better job for sure.
@@brushcreek42 fat had a different meaning in 1812
Paul Dano would be considered "fat" only starving people in any era.
His build far too small in this movie. He is supposed to be tall, and massive. Yes, fat as, they say, and fatter later on. What fat meant then is subject to comparison , true.
I dunno about you guys, but the scene was great and all, but it was ruined for me when Dolokhov's shot was not recoiled.
he totally deserved it
Bloodborne PVP be like
Сцена дуэли 1:06 похожа на Финско-Российскую границу.... НО, это всё ровно круто!
Pierre should be bulkier taller immense! This one is too puny.
Why?
Irrepressible.
Khkhkhkhkhkh. So ridicules duelto.
Схренали Пьер худой, а Долохов такой некрасивый?!
Ama Tomlinson ИМХО, Пьер не выглядит худым, а Долохов очень красив
Ama Tomlinson хотя да, он по своим размерам не совсем такой как в книге, но в остальном я именно такого Пьера и представлял
+Василий Андоров да он в три раза меньше, чем в книге описан
Ama Tomlinson и все же, по всему остальному сто процентное попадание в тот его образ, который у меня появился при прочтении
Василий Андоров в книге Долохов был блондином, с короткими волосами и БЕЗ УСОВ
Говно, русский фильм горааааздо лучше
Советский.