Your Drill (DOESN'T HAVE) a Secret Feature That Brands Are Hiding
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Cordless drills supposedly have an unknown feature that seems too good to be true. I reached out to the manufacturers to see if this is real. #powertools #diy #cordlessdrill
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I don’t know what’s more impressive, the fact you bought all these drills to test this theory, or the fact you had patience to deal with customer service for all these brands.
It's true. I despise calling customer service because, so seldom, are they actually able to address whatever I am calling about. My favorite is when the website says to call if your question isn't answered in the FAQs, but then the call center employees are just equipped with scripts that read just like the FAQs. Sometimes they don't even speak English. I wish there was an exam I could take that w certify me to skip all the rigamarole and go straight to Tier2/3/Engineering or whatever.
When you spend $1,000 but the video makes you 10k in ad revenue it makes real sense.
Neither. It's the fact that having the drills he doesn't show on video the locking working. He just shows them clicking, but doesn't show them being loose before the counterrotation, so showing them to be apparently locked after that doesn't mean anything. Useless video.
Customer service 100%
@@arde4
Wow, you are the epitome of an incredulous person, a doubting Thomas, without even trying it out yourself. Judging this man and his video. Again, Wow !
As a Plant Hire/small tool repair technician (
I agree with you. I have dissassembled a racquetting chuck, and the way you describe it is correct,
AvE has put out a couple of reaction videos to this video, including cutting away a chuck to show exactly this.
You are quite right. Turning back loosens the chuck... Who'd of thought
So you watched the AvE video he uploaded.
Thankful I saw your post!
Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" th-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.
The biggest secret feature I learned was that Ridgid has a lifetime warranty on tools & batteries. Any other tools offer this? That's pretty awesome 😂
Another secret feature is that the Ridgid LSA (Lifetime Warranty) only applies to batteries that were included as part of a kit. Batteries purchased seperately only receive a 3 year limited warranty. The 'lifetime warranty on tools and batteries' comment gives people like me who wouldn't burden themselves with the reading of any warranty documents the impression that all Ridgid cordless tools and Ridgid batteries have the lifetime coverage, which is almost true. You're right, other tools don't offer this and it is pretty awesome, until you find out all of the 4Ah battery 2-packs you bought at Depot were only covered for 3 years when the lifetime of free battery replacements is why you committed to the Ridgid line of tools in the first place. Pretty awesome turns to pretty butthurt pretty fast.
Life time means lifetime of the tool, usually 5 years, not your lifetime.
@@SammyInnit I had a reciprocating saw that I had them rebuild and it was way more than five years after I purchased it. I have a drill and a multitool that I will be doing this with as soon as I finish a project I am using them on. That said, they no longer seem to advertise that it has a lifetime guarantee and when you look up getting a tool fixed, you are asked if it has the lifetime guarantee or not, so they must have been losing money on it. I plan to milk mine for as long as possible! BTW-you had to have registered each tool and battery to get that deal. And yes, I have gotten free batteries from them as well.
@@SammyInnit ... correct - if all Ridgid cordless tools n batts were 'lifetime' there wouldn't b so many used ones listed on ebay n elsewhere for sale as - " selling for parts - not working "
... BTW - Ridgid tools r made by the same manufacturer as Milwaukee - all new versions of cordless r 'first' produced n marketed with the Ridgid branding to see how well they n there certain parts perform and sell over a period of time - IF successful 'those parts' r re-branded or modified for new Milwaukee lines
I usually hear that click of disengagement when I am removing my drill from the chuck. It is most likely the paw disengaging from the ratchet, which if anything would loosen. AVE just uploaded a video and actually goes into mechanics of modern keyless chucks, funnily enough the locking "trick" actually caused the tooling to release sooner than if it had just been left tensioned.
I am guessing it is all CLICK BAIT!
@@Stan_in_Shelton_WAlol
Tried it yesterday and it is total b.s. AVE is on the money
This does nothing for tightening the grip, this is to stop the inertia of the chuck from loosening when it stops, and it happens automatically.
@@Oliver-hx9sc Yup no contest. Trust the man who points the camera at the work, not at his own little face.
'This trick works because the minimum wage company people wanted to laugh, so they told me it works.' vs. 'Son, here's a f*ckin blueprint as to why that's bullsh*t.'
There's no need to turn the chuck backward to activate the anti-inertia feature, it does it automatically. The reason the manual doesn't mention it is that it's not a Ryobi or DeWalt or Rigid feature, it's a chuck feature. Jacobs knows all about it. That feature had to be added when automatic brakes were incorporated into drills. If the drill is spinning at 2000 RPM and stops instantly, the chuck will often loosen without the clicky feature.
Bob, thank you for providing an answer that actually describes this feature. Thank you sir....
@@Mark-EFMB-Combat-Medic Welcome Mark, thank you too!
To be honest, it should be in the specifications and passed along in the manual.
I noticed one of my drill does this in high speed but I never noticed in a lower end version of the same brand.
Ok now this makes some sort of sense. He never explained what he meant by “locked in place” but your explanation was perfect. It locks the Chuck not the bit. Thanks engineers!
I've only seen a couple of this guys videos, but I like that he doesn't have a lot of emphasis on style over content.
I've worked with Makita drills before and had an issue with bits falling out, because when you used the tool it would loosen up by itself. I found out however, that it locks the bit in place if You go counterclockwise until one click, so I can confirm it works, since the bits stopped falling out and I always use that now when working with drills. Cheers for making all the research and company calling for answers, that's some dedication hahaha
When you're 61 and you think you've learned enough in life, sometimes you come across a video that answers a question you've always had about something, but didn't know you HAD the question. I've NEVER been able to figure out how to tighten these chucks properly, and in the first two minutes of your video, my mind is blown. Thank you!!
I totally agree.
I'm a little older than you and I can concur. I constantly have drivers loosen up and drop out of the chuck when removing sheet metal screws.
Always was tempted to grab the chuck with some channel locks to tighten further, just out of frustration.
Have a workmate that has a Milwaukee with a drill bit permanently planted in that chuck but never asked him how it got that way. Anywhoo, I will try this.
I'm so happy another 60"s yr old had the exact same thought.
@@pdr701 (Shhhhh! There are many of us....)
Same here, I've already rang three tradesmen I know and their shocked.
You're correct that the employees of these companies are unaware of this "SECRET" feature. That's because there is NO secret feature. What you are describing on a Key-Less chuck is not a Lock as you believe. It's a Dog mechanism much like what you find in a Ratchet Wrench when you switch the wrench from CW to CCW. In short I would not turn the chuck collar CCW unless I was opening the jaws to remove or insert tooling in the chuck. *"Righty Tighty - Lefty Loosey"*.
Wakodahatchee Chris
...unless they are left-handed threads and then it is lefty tighty, righty loosey.
@@stevenx2414 Find me a chuck with left handed threads...
theres no secret feature . . its creating a gap ( endplay ) before releasing happens
Thank you so so much
I’m 63 and trying to use the drills and with you and all ur help I’m able to start smarter then most who is experienced so I will be looking at many of your videos to get knowledge and safety of course thank you so much for helping us grandma
I fully expected you to test the drills out on this video. I would think one could cause the accessory to loosen by running the drill in the CCW direction. That often happens when I am using a wire brush, as I spin it in both CW and CCW directions to keep the wires from bending in one direction of travel.
I worked in commercial construction for almost 45 years and my Makita repair center rep showed me that about 6 or 7 years ago. Keep up the great videos.
Ya Makita rock used them in construction for years dropped off buildings and keeps on ticking only reason I own a dewalt was price
@@scotmetcalf2745 they are pretty close in price
The fact that a rep from a company had to show you how to use your tools properly it's kind of sad.
@@bobbyhempel1513 thats why theyre reps...they represent the company and are out there to demonstrate to make sure their product is being used properly and to their full potential.
Bottom line is this all those chucks are made by Jacobs they are all the same they all do that. Has nothing to do with the manufacturer of the drill.
I’m a commercial electrician. I’ve been using these drills on a regular basis since 2001. I’ve never had a problem with any bits falling out. I believe that the click you are feeling is just the ratchet disengaging so you can loosen it.
Yea the bit is tightened with the first motion. That back click does not lock anything. If the bits are falling out the chuck is not tight.
Agree. This video looks like a hoax.
@@philscott7949 how is it s hoax if he's not making a definitive statement?
I suspect another commenter is correct in his belief that the "feature" is not meant to be manual, rather its simply an automatic mechanism to prevent the bit from loosening under counter clockwise rotation.
The only time I have ever had them loosen and fall out is if I am using a mixing bit or very heavy drill bit, and I didn't very carefully lock it in very well. I'm a bit lazy in that, so I'll just mix a few seconds, then tighten again, and that usually works well.
After watching your "5 things" video and learning about one I hadn't been using (the clutch), I found this video and learned about this feature (on my DeWalt cordless drill, and yes, it works as you described!). So that's two out of six features --not bad for a couple of minutes of videos!
Hi, I have a Dewalt, and I also had a problem with bits falling out, till I tried you suggestion, now no more annoying fall outs. Thank you
I have been a tradesman for the better part of fifty years. I thought my “firsts” were over. Then you whipped this into the mix. It does feel fun to learn something new. Thank you.
Seldom. But then, I have a fist grip like a pipe wrench 😂
It's so you can run the armature of a c&c milling machine if you must with a drill
The lock-in feature works great for operating as something for a lathe power plant if yours fails as well
So it doesn't become loose over time
@@dustinswatsons9150 Porter Cable time is 10 seconds!
My 20 year old Bosch mentioned this in the user's manual.
That "locked in place" is not 100% either, a cylindrical drill bit can still slip if stuck in the material.
Chucks are usually designed and manufactured by an external company, like Röhm or Jacobs. Maybe you should contact them too, maybe they will give more insight how this mechanism actually works. That would be interesting, Im sure. Kudos for the thorough investigation. Cheers!
That is some nice additional info!
Users manual?!? Is that some kind of esoteric fairy tale juice? Users Manual, your just making that up, never heard/ seen one.
My gues is that drill tightens as much as you rachet but when you lock it it wont go lose due to vibration
Contacting the chuck makers is a great idea!
Was going to say the same thing, drill manufacturers just assemble the drills, they would not be aware of something like this. Welcome to globalization.
Great sleuthing! I had NO idea that this was a THING. Good to know. Will be using this feature from here on out. Love the channel. Keep it coming!
Unfortunately, it’s not a real feature. Check out the follow up video for even deeper digging.
I have a P271 Ryobi One+ and it doesn't have any audible click or cluck. When I turn it counterclockwise it just puts it into that limbo where it's ready to be unlocked. I think Simon Gore in the previous comment to this one is pretty spot on with his explanation.
A collaboration with the Torque Test Channel to see if the locking affects anything through thorough testing would be great!
My first thought too, they're the perfect channel for this.
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@@cameronck beat me to it
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That would be very interesting indeed
I’ve been a woodworker for many years and just discovered that feature about a year ago. It goes to show you that your always learning !!! Thanks for doing this video!!!
Grammar police here. "You're" or "you are" always learning
@Hank Hill lol
I wonder if the chucks of these drills are made by a separate company and that's why it's not listed in the user's manuals of any of these brands.
Like if it was a feature the brands created you would think they would mention it 🤔
@@JAMESYBOY. they're all pretty much made by Jacobs.
This is a feature that not all of them have. Must be the brand of chuck they use.
what is to be gained by turning the chuck anti clockwise? The chuck is already tight or does it tighten it a bit more?
Hi. I just went and checked my 18 year old DeWalt which I still use and it definitely has a positive twist back click. I usually have the chuck loosen up when using a rotary wire brush in it, so next time I do that I will have to remember to use this "feature" and see if the chuck stays tight. Amazing if it works and great videos. Thanks.
Except it isn't what you're saying it is. If you do the "backwards click", you're defeating the mechanism that should keep the bit/tool from loosening.
@@RC21114 As I said above. Next time I use the drill with the wire brush I will test it by clicking back and see if it comes loose like it has done before without clicking back.
An Aussie stuck in an apartment in Wales after picking up Covid in London... I just stumbled across your video.
I have watched thousands of DiY, home maintenance and tool review videos on TH-cam and this is the best I've ever seen for sense of purpose, clarity and presentation.
Great job Nils! I have never before subscribed to a channel... yours is the first.
Welcome to Wales!
@Wasn't Me Coming from the same groups as those who don't believe in Australia? Yeah, I'm gonna listen to you mate... *Snort and laugh mockingly.*
Welcome to the land of sheep shaggers and ram raiders! Hope you enjoy the rain, and lack of stinging nettles that cause suicide.
I agree, "also" give credit to the absolute clarity of this man speaking the English language in his video which is commendable and praiseworthy. "In Ireland, Devon & Cornwall in England, and some parts of North America & Scotland" speak the purest, clearest, and most accurate English dialect.
Agree!
I feel like taking apart and exposing the mechanism is going to make a great video. Contacting anyone who can provide a photo of the old manuals or indicator on a drill would be amazing too.
We need @AvE
@@NolanRollo And, Or, This Old Tony..!
aVe !!!
AvE!!!!!
I'm just waiting for the video on how to 'unlock' the chuck, hope it comes soon!
I am by no means a drill expert, but found out about this feature on my dewalt cordless by accident (after the bits kept falling out). I thought it was "the way" to lock them in! It definitely works and I've been too lazy to look at the manual to see if it was a published feature. Thanks for the exhaustive research and great video!
Check the update video in the description. It isn't a feature, the click you hear is the pawl disengaging the ratchet effectively unlocking it and turning it into a normal ratchet-less chuck.
I've just discovered your channel and love all the videos I've seen so far! I'm totally going to be trying out this secret feature on my Bosch. Subscribed with alerts! 👍
I believe the click is a detent that locks the chuck just before it is fully tightened to prevent it from loosening during use. By turning the chuck counter clockwise just past the detent releases the lock and the chuck can come loose during use.
Exactly! This isn't a thing.
Yes. The video is BS
I can attest to the legitimacy of the locking feature on the DeWalt drills. I, like the reviewer you mentioned, have on occasion had the chuck loosen during repeated forward and reverse drilling/tapping operations. After remembering to lock the chuck, no loosening occurs.
Oh yeah! Thanks for saying that. I don't usually have a problem in forward but with repeated forward and reverse I definitely do. Now I see the value!
@@Goalsplus This lends credence to my theory that the "locking" does not add any force to the jaws, but simply prevents the chuck from attempting to tighten more, which would also prevent slop in the mechanism, eventually allowing it to loosen if it "skips back" over a click.
When the chuck brake kicks in on my Dewalt drills when drilling, the chuck unlocks after about five or six times of the brake kicking in, I gotta try this, it may just improve my life significantly.
Honestly, I think it was the brake kicking in on the reverse drill/tapping operations that was exactly why the chuck would loosen, when I'd forget to lock it.
Just to specify, including 18V?
Tnx for sharing with us man , I can tell you put so much time to do this type of video to share right and correct information with others. THNX
Excellent video and did not know this feature either! Great analysis and presentation, one of the best I’ve seen.
Ummm. Have you considered testing to see if the bits are really locked in place or not?
Usually if a bit comes out of my keyless chuck, it's when I reverse the drill to back a bit out of a hole that it doesn't want to come out of.
Did you conduct any experiments with your large assortment of drills to see if they loosened after "Locking" the chuck and then drilling a series of holes?
of course not. that would have ruined the whole premise of the video, defeating the purpose of making it (making back the money spent)
I also didn’t see a single Hilti, just the typical Home Depot and harbor freight trash.
@@jakedubis5216 , have you tried to change the brushes in a hilti? i have. non-replaceable brushes. okay, thats alright, i'll just buy another hilti and use the old batteries on the new drill. no i wont. they changed the new model drill so it isnt compatible with previous battery packs. well done hilti. these are reasons why they are now rare on building sites.
@@jakedubis5216 Brand loyalty will get you nowhere, I've used good and bad products by them all, including hilti
I have never heard of this feature before, but I am glad I watched your channel and I will try it out for my self....Thanks.
Thank you for that tip on the "secret featue"! On several occasion's my bit got loose which I thought was the fault of the drill , now I'll try that locking feaure & hopefully it won't slip & come out of the chuck!
When I was working construction as a union lather going through the apprenticeship program and as a journeyman, I wanted to work with all the members in our local. Especial the OG"s I found I was able to learn something from each of them. Some trick or so-called secret to make things easier or faster. By far, most of the OG's wanted to pass on what they knew. I have always been fascinated watching a true craftsman in their trade using their tools and skill to make work easier. This is one of the greatest things about TH-cam, is the thing you are able to learn. Thank you for sharing.
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Have not heard of it before now, but first thing in the morning I'll try my 5yr old Ryobi and see what happens. It does loose the bit every once in a while.
I thought that click was the beginning of the process of you loosening back the chuck.
It sets the ratchet mechanism in reverse and if you keep clicking it you will loosen the chuck all the way.
Either way I've never used it, and I've never had issues with bits falling out.
Genesis Special Edition, 20 volt lithium (black w green trim) purchased at the local hardware store for $25. Great for around-the-home DIY. Anyhow, the chuck is strictly CCW tighten and CW loosen (no clicking at all).
I went further and continued clicking CCW and amazingly this allows you to take the bit out. Fantastic discovery. 😂😂🤣🤣👍👍
In the 90s or older, some cordless drills has a mechanical device to stop the spindle once trigger-throttle is released. The solution become popular it was taken by most drill tool makers.
Before the solution have gotten popular, we heard a click then spindle stop abruptly, and find drill was on the floor.
As spindle suddenly stop at high rpm, the chuck continues to spin in the direction equal to bit dismount direction.
The solution was to integrate a device to lock the bit in that chuck even if the spindle stop suddenly. The solution requires to back rotate until a click is heard.
Such solution isn’t necessary for electronic resistance stopping ie brushless motor control. To avoid confusion and avoid user perception to their product is inferior it was chosen to remove it from the operation manual.
This makes sense as my Ryobi R18PD7 model is brushless and doesn't have that feature.
The drill chuck is clamped and locked with a single hand movement. The radial locking device prevents the unintentional release of the drill bit during counter-clockwise rotation. Impact resistance is a standard at Röhm. That means these quick-action chucks are predestined for use on hand-operated drills, not least due to their weight-reduced design.
Tried this on my Porter Cable and it works. Thanks for the heads up.
Maybe the real way to find out, is to use the drill in a manner that requires it to run in reverse and see if the 'bit' will stay tight. This is usually the scenario in which retention problems occur.
For years I've been thinking keyless chucks were a pain, never guaranteed not to slip. Here's hoping this is the complete answer. Well done for pointing that out.
I’ve used keyless chucks for years and never have had a bit slip
@@tylerk.7947 I have, the round smooth shank on spiral drill bits (especially when stuck) do slip a lot in keyless chucks of rechargeable drills for me.
@@royjohnson465 I've had a HUGE amount of problems with a wire brush attachment coming loose, I need to try this when I do my front brakes!
@@Entropy512 I see, >>a 4, 5, or 6 flat sided shaft "is much better" than a round shaft
@@royjohnson465 I need to double check, but I'm positive that the ones in question were 6-sided shafts - the chuck still loosened anyway
I've been doing this for years with my Bosch drills in the UK and it totally works. I never realized it wasn't in the manual anymore though. Like others have said here it may be worth looking up the chuck companies they use and see if they know more or if it makes a difference by company. If it isn't in the manual anymore you can bet they don't think to check it and it won't be officially supported should they change the chuck company they buy from.
I actually stared playing with this about a year ago with things like larger bits and paint mixers. It does seem to actually work on the DeWalt drills.
That seems super counterintuitive but I'm glad to know this is a thing! Also lol...just got a "chuck" Norris ad after this video 😂.
I gave a drill away once because bits kept falling out - an older Ryobi possibly. I bet this would have solved that problem. Thanks for the report. Great info!
Me too
Not necessarily. Low end tools don't always come with ratcheting chucks. One of the ways the manufacturer save cost and sells them for less.
My older ryobi doesn’t lock
They don't all lock. My green Ryobi did not.
How hard would it be to set up some tests of this feature? It’s weird that it’s presented as a kind of black box instead of just trying it a bunch of times with and without the lock to see if there’s any difference.
Because that would prove there's no "secret" feature and couldn't make a clickbait video.
He bought all the drills, he literally has them in his hands and asks us what we think.. bro..
Could be a click bait thing because these websites and this one in particular promote this type of behavior as well. Yeah but don't use foul language. That type of behavior is offensive for the public.
I have had bits fall out when i'm using the clutch. The vibrations from the clutch pry untightens the chuck if you don't have it on super tight. So I will definitely try it out. It would improve my work performance...
I love the amount of effort youve put into this piece; keep up the good work!
Well you got me on this one. I didn’t know you could turn it back once to lock it in. I haven’t had problems with bit’s falling out either so I never even thought about it. I knew all the features you were talking about in the last video about the drills but not this one. Great video. 👍🏻👍🏻
3 Follow-ups: 1) TO UNLOCK THE BIT: Just keep turning counterclockwise. "Locking it" is just seating it in a certain position where it kind of rests and then you just keep going past that to unlock it.
2) Ridgid has a Lifetime Service Agreement, not a warranty. You have to register the tool within 3 months and then it’s covered as long as you own. Same with their batteries.
3) Several folks have mentioned reaching out to Jacobs or Rohn about the chucks themselves. I’ll see what I can find from them.
I have an older Makita that has the chuck key to tighten.
How dose no one know this?
Thanks for making the video, this is valuable information. I have told people about it ever sense I’ve learned.
there is a much better way.
1 - hold your chuck
2- spin it in reverse until the chuck bottoms out
3 - tighten the chuck onto your bit.
trust me you will immediately see what I'm talking about when you go to release your bit again. it will not let go until you want it to let go.
Them tool companies are too busy for you meaning me meaning everyone they have become to good for us little customers to dare to know more than them or accept they don't know something you do.
Just watched your video. So, of course went straight to 2 of the drills I have . On the Dewalt Atomic hammer drill(brushless), the locking click actually comes by tightening in same direction. On my Bosch 18 Volt, when you click backwards, it then becomes as if you loosened the chuck, but is still locked. Funny, all these last few years, I thought my chuck on Bosch was faulty. Thanks for this video.
I'm impressed with your legwork. I might've called all those companies, but I'd off never purchased all those drills. True dedication sir.
The feature was put in place for several decades. This was due to the chuck on cordless drills loosening during use. My first cordless DeWalt had the feature and that was back in late-90s. The feature wasn't described in the instruction manual. A friend of mine was a finish carpenter and he told me about it. I purchased another DeWalt cordless a year to a year and a half ago and the feature works, There is a paragraph dedicated to the locking feature in the instruction manual. It's in the section titled, "Installing a Bit or Accessory into a Keyless Chuck (Fig. D).
Why would a cordless drill loosen and a corded one not? Serious question, not doubting you or anything. 🙂
@@I_Don_t_want_a_handle most cordless drills are keyless chuck and most corded drills use a chuck key to tighten which gets the bit held tighter usually
@@did_that_hurt8387 Keyless
@@fliedaway duh sorry you are correct was half asleep still when I answered lol
Yes and there is writen sometimes on the chuck "lock" with arrow pointing. So it is not something the drill manufacturer hiding....
I was really hoping you'd test this out with a torque meter, measuring how much force was required to turn something in the chuck with and without locking. Seems pretty easy to test, given that you already have all the drills! Relying on random reddit comments doesn't seem nearly as useful, since that's just an anecdote for a single drill.
This works on my harbor freight Bauer drill. It always drops the bit and now it looks like it holds tight. Thanks for the video. 😊
You don't need to tighten anything...
To lock: Tighten clockwise until you hear just 1 click. Your drill bit will never come loose. It's a misconception that you need to add "extra" tightness to your bits.
To unlock: Tighten clockwise until you hear additional clicks (frees the lock) and then spin counterclockwise (the 1 more click indicates switch from clutch to bit holder control)
Obviously never owned power tools with keyless chucks
AvE just posted a video, breakdown of course. So yeah, turning it one click backwards disengages the ratcheting pawl to allow the chuck to be loosened. It's not in the manual because it's not a feature
Glad to see others watching AvE. AvE is an artist of linguistics, profanity and tool tear downs. I suspect this video is clickbait ad monetising, praying on the weak of mind. I'm sensitive of wrist but I'll still crank chuck until I warm my palm. I do wonder though if the click back mechanism is better for the gear mechanism though. ?
@@hemplimeoffgridder2236 of you buy a skookum choocher it'll last 🤷♂️ I admire Ave, cause I abuse my tools like he does.
@@TheStevester2 likewise. I like to crank them hard. I've succumbed to the milfucccy foolishness but maybe someday I'll see the light.
you got a genuine eyebrow raise out of me, so you've earned a subscription. I have never heard of this feature, but on rare occasions I've had the chuck loosen during a project and i've found it annoying. I look forward to trying this out! Great video, thanks for staying on hold for hours so I don't have to.
Same here. Thanks for the new intel. My Dewalt 18V cordless hammer drill sometimes loses a bit. Very annoying. Looking forward to trying this out !
I have been having the problem with the bits falling out of my Ryobi for years. I will definitely test this out for myself.
I wouldn't, doing this means that the chuck can self loosen. The click is the first stage of lossening it, possibly dangerous.
I am new to hammer, drill and clutch settings on drill. This is super useful
Thanks! I literally got up walked into my garage and tried this on 3 drills. It took me a minute to understand what locking meant. Fantastic safety tip and convenience too.
LOL, i just did the same. Went to my shop and tested. Works!
Lol can you explain what it actually does? I cant understand and i dont think this video was very clear on it, tried on my dewalt, the feature is there but what does it lock?
@@remysavary689 It's suppose to lock in the bit.
@@remysavary689 It locks the chuck in place to however tight you tightened it, It doesn't make the grip any stronger or lock in the bit, it just stops the chuck from accidentally loosening itself over repeated stops and starts.
@@remysavary689 I am not 100% sure but it seems that by twisting backwards a pin snaps into place but going backward gentle it doesn’t. The gently backward is like loosening by vibration. I tried this on one of my drills and if I am really careful I can loosen slow enough where the locking pin, assuming I am correct in what is happening, does not snap into place. Not exactly sure how the mechanism works. Regardless if it prevents loosening I am going to be doing it.
FYI, I have two cordless DeWalt drills, a DC970 and a DCD791, both of which have the counter-clockwise locking feature. My Makita also has this feature. Good to know. Thanks for posting.
Here I always thought that click was the chuck UN locking. Did notice the DeWalt review says you have to turn the chuck clockwise until you hear a click to unlock it and the turn it counter clockwise to remove the bit. I will add one more brand to your list after trying this out- Kobalt. Since Flex is made by the same company it probably will too.
Had a tiny drill bit fall out today on my Ryobi, which I was sure was "securely" in place. Will check this "feature" out tomorrow and see if it works.Thanks for highlighting this! :)
In all my years of using drills I never knew about this feature. Just watched this video and went and checked to see if my Ridgid would do it. Sure enough mine does. Unbelievable you’re never too old to learn something new. I’ll be sharing this secret. Thank you for the video.
I remain skeptical. Just because it clicks, doesn't mean it is a lock. None of the drills or hammer drills I have seen have this "feature" listed in their manuals. And they even describe how to slide a battery on and how to insert a bit.
I found this info on another TH-cam video about a year or 2 ago and sent the info to my work buddies. I’ve confirmed it in use with my Milwaukee hammer drill. I always had problems with having the chuck loosen when using hole saws in cabinets. Started doing this all the time and my issue stopped.
Absolutely makes sense. I have always wondered why, when using a keyless chuck, that the bit is not nearly as secure as one would expect. My Makita does have that click as demonstrated in this video and I will pay attention in the future to see if it helps and will report back.
Thank you for the video. Coincidentally I accidentally noticed this yesterday my bit kept falling out and there was this "irritating" click when I accidentally turned the chuck counter-clockwise. Didn't realize what had happened until I saw your video just now! Mahalo!
This has been really informative! I totally didn't know about this feature. One thing that is like to see, though, is how exactly this works in seating the bit into place. I wonder if anyone has ever taken the bit locking mechanism apart and see how it worked.
Not sure exactly how it works as only discovered this a few weeks ago myself but think it works by taking the back lash out so shock can't be transferred through the tightening mechanisium from the bit causing it to loose grip. Hope that makes some kind of sense 😵💫
Videos like this is why people were mad the dislikes were removed
cool thing to know... I'll probably incorporate that into my chucking procedure.. Thanks for the video!
I am so impressed with this video...
It's very well explained technically and visually...
However, I always faced this experience with Dewalt cordless drills. The drill bit keeps falling during most operations, which was very annoying.
As a result, I shall try your method and give you feedback soon...
Kind regards and stay safe
This method has been disproven, someone did a video with the patent design for chucks. There is no secret mechanism, loosening your chuck will make you lose your bit over time.
I've never had a bit fall out, so I never tried anything other than the tightening step. I always thought that 'click' was the first step in loosening the bit. This is interesting, but I'm more confused than convinced.
(This is the question - is the click he is describing - (yes my drill has the ratcheting feature, and if it is engaged (without the one back click) there is no way the brake or "stop/start" budges the chuck ring...) - actually the detent preparing the ratchet to be released, or actually disengaging the ratchet....
I only spin drills occasionally - due to not tightening enough (even collets loose grip on small drill bits..) not due to the chuck "coming loose.
Yeah, I would need to see how that works mechanically. I have never dropped a bit because it came loose. I just have a hard time understanding what the "lock" actually locks. I might see if I can find one and break it apart, maybe we can see what it actually does inside.
Prevents the chuck from spining loose if it rubs on something or vibrating loose.
@@ehisey yes but what physically makes it lock when you turn it one click
Dude it drives me nuts when the bit falls out I'm going to try this thank you for posting.... I tried it on my pinky finger it works great
THAT IS SOOO COOL!!!! This will save soo much frustration. I will be able to impress all of my friends and coworkers! Your the best thank you sooo much!!!!
I'd love to see a breakdown of the chuck mechanism and an explanation as to how the locking function works.
Exactly !!! this is what I was thinking… I’m not really sure about this so called lock feature… my point is…. I’ve never in my life needed an EXTRA “LOCK FEATURE” to help me operate any drill to accomplish any job… I’ll be scratching my headed on this one for a long time until someone can show me how this really mechanically works… just doesn’t make sense
YES, "why" are some rechargeable drill manufacturing companies (not all) purposely "hiding" this information (being "not" in some user manual instructions) from the public on how to use this particular chuck locking feature!!??
@@bengilbert4738 Not to mention it would be a pretty weird feature anyway, cause if you turn just a tiny little bit too much, the drill bit comes completely lose again.
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@@jimmySWphilly He would be my choice, too.
What do you mean by locking in the bit? The bit is locked in by the pressure of the jaws just as with any Jacobs style chuck. It will only fall out if you didn’t get it tight enough. As a retired engineer, I’d like to hear something about this from an engineer at one of these companies. I personally suspect this click is simply the reset operation that allows the pawls inside to shift from tightening to loosening, basically like switching direction on a ratchet. I am not buying the “locking the bit” claim as the bit is locked by tightening of the jaws.
After you “lock” the bit, what do you have to do to loosen the chuck and remove the bit? Do you have to turn it again in the tightening direction before you can loosen the chuck? Or can you just turn the chuck in the loosening direction as normal? If the latter, then this further supports that the click is just the pawl changing direction. If you have to turn the chuck back in the tightening direction to release the “lock”, then that provides support for the locking theory. And even then, it wouldn’t be locking the bit, it would be locking the chuck collar to prevent inadvertent loosening of the chuck.
Thanks - this is the same question I had: What does it lock?
I came here to post this theory, as well. My guess is the "click" you are feeling with the initial reverse motion on the chuck is the internal mechanism transitioning from ratcheting in one direction, to ratcheting in the other direction. I would like to see a cut-away diagram of the chuck, and how this "locking" mechanism is supposed to work. Sounds unlikely to me.
LT . . . from one mechanical engineer to another, You have presented thus far the best (and correct) response to "all" whom think there is a "special feature" with a keyless chuck to lock in a drill bit! I did however find it entertaining reading most of the replies of which only a select few were correct like you. My preference is still an independent 3-jaw chuck over the keyless. (Tighten each jaw separate, and twice lol). Funny thing about innovation/technology, Always a "sacrifice" in something when adopting to "new & improved".
@@leesands892 Well, not a mechanical engineer in the sense of degree, as I have CS, EE and CE/SE degrees, but I did start out life in aerospace engineering before switching midstream to computer science for my first degree. 😁. However, I have maintained and repaired my own cars, trucks, motorcycles, furnaces, boilers, etc. for nearly 50 years so experience plays a role as well.
@@leesands892 I just found this. Excellent explanation with a patent reference. th-cam.com/video/8ztB1C7dERc/w-d-xo.html
My drill bits were slipping out of the chuck while drilling and my guess was that I had worn out the chuck from not backing out enough while drilling. I'll be using this locking mechanism from now on and if my drill bits stop falling out, then you have saved me from needing to buy another drill gun. Thank you.
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This sorted out the problem I had with bits coming loose in my new Ingco drill. Thanks 👌
The Kobalt drill from Lowell's has this info in the user manual. About the ratchet to tighten as normal and back off one click to lock in place
yeah, MM, but how many of us read the manual,eh?
The chucks are basically all made by probably even fewer companies than all the different brands. It is basically a subassembly they purchase and put on their drill. So what you really need to do to find out about it being real would be to find out where they get their chucks at. You might wanna try going on Amazon and checking out the different people who supply drill chucks.
Röhm is where its at
I have a Porter-Cable drill that actually has an embossed picture of an open lock and a locked lock with arrows right behind the chuck. I never noticed them until I tried the locking trick and there they were. Works great!
This is new to me, I tried using the bits for removing damaged screws that require running the drill in reverse. And the bit kept getting loose. Thanks for the info.
Thanks for including my comment in your video. They dont slip into the right place when you take it a click back, its just the internal sleeve being undone. From there you only turn a little bit more and the bit is loose. Test with round drillbits, not with hex. There is no one click back to lock, just an intermediate position before you starts loosening the chuck. By the way, talk to Yukiwa.
Thanks for that info. That's what I'm suspicious of. I'm hearing very mixed feedback in the comments here already but I'll keep digging. I see that Yukiwa is a chuck manufacturer but do they make the chucks for any of these brands? I'm not too familiar with them so I don't know.
I tried the round bits in my drill and it works perfectly. No problem at all
I'm from Brazil. I have a DeWalt cordless drill/impact driver similar to the one you showed in the video. It has this locking mechanism, however the locking feature is in the same direction as tightening the drillbit and it does show in the manual!
this video is disinformation. backing it off actually disengages the lock.
AvE debunks this video: th-cam.com/video/8ztB1C7dERc/w-d-xo.html
Yes!! Thank you! Saved my Dewalt drill. The bits kept coming out or loose on high torque jobs. The click does work!
UNBELIEVEABLE !!!! I HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THE RATCHET tightening then back turn to lock it in place !!! Ive been doing industrial maintenance for over 30 years and like most i just ASSUME i know how to use all my power tools I’ve used my whole life.
Well as im watching another video i stumble across yours standing here in my maintenance shop so i walk over to my “ drill wall “ where various all my drills hang and i start taking them down and try this one by one AND IT WORKS !!!! Lol😂all these years I’ve been mad because a bit falls out and down into a deep put of lost bits for eternity !! My god this is one of those life hack moments of “ ive been doing it the hard way ALL THIS TIME for nothing . Thank you for this video my friend. Even an old dog like me learns a new trick now and then.
Im about to show this to all my guys here at our morning start up meeting tomorrow !!!
Before you show them... check out this video: th-cam.com/video/yH11SnnbS84/w-d-xo.html. Turns out the tool company reps who said it was a real thing were just wrong.
Something that might worth checking into: 6 or 7 years ago, I had, just through happenstance, to handle/have my hands on several models from different manufacturers. I noticed the vast majority had a similar look and feel to the whole, front collet/collar assembly. The front part that holds the bits. When I did some digging, many times just by looking closely at the assemblies themselves, that regardless of where and by whom the tools were made, almost all of the brands sourced those assemblies from the same, American, manufacturer. If you do some digging you may find the same is true today.
A Jacobs Keyless Chuck. That's what I was going to comment on. Don't look at the drill, look at what keyless chuck manufacturer they're using.
That’s the one! And yes, on the chuck. Shoulda been clearer in my wording. Thank you.
Same thing for a ton of products. There are millions of things for sale, do you thing there is a dedicated warehouse making parts for each item? No.
Well there's not an American manufacturer anymore... it might be an American NAME put on a CHINESE part but nothing you can buy today especially at a big box store is made in America. It's ALL Made in CHINE period no matter who's name it on it.
AVE talks about that in various videos. Even dissimilar manufacturers use the same chucks.
By golly... what a surprise find! I just purchased the DEWALT DCD791 and as I was testing out the different speeds (I always like to push tools to the max when testing) and I too noticed the bits falling out when going from full throttle to instant stop. I was as you can imagine rather disappointed to say the least.
I happened to be watching another video and somehow yours popped up and your title caught my attention. After watching I pulled out the new drill, put in a bit, tightened it down then slowly reversed the chuck and "CLICK"... there it is! Repeating full throttle to instant stop over, and over, and over again... voilà... the bit stayed put and remained tight!
I am impressed... I am sure I am not alone in being thankful you went through all that effort in testing and sharing your finding... GREAT JOB!!!!
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You ought to get a medal for the amount of effort and the level of thoroughness you put into your videos. Truly impressive. Well done (and I don’t think you stumbled over a single word - you ought to be a newsreader, one who doesn’t need a teleprompter.)
LRN2DYI, I had not heard or knew of this feature, I did try it a low and behold it work now I'll never have another drill bit fall out or loosen up on me again. Thank you for sharing. Great advice.
This really surprised me actually, because I do this with my Milwaukee and DeWalt drills. I never knew it was a hidden feature, I’ve always just subconsciously done it to give it a little bit more bite. Very interesting video 👍🏼
That's counterintuitive. Why would you subconsciously turn it backwards to give it more bite?
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@@coreytohme9861 It's doesn't give it more bite, it locks the ratcheting mechanism in place so it won't vibrate loose. Röhm or Jacobs make many of the ratcheting chucks you find on drills... it was a feature listed in the 1990s when the ratcheting chucks first came to market. Companies like "Dewalt" are owned by other companies, in this example Stanley Black & Decker is the parent company. The parts for Dewalt drills are manufactured by other companies, and "Dewalt" doesn't know exactly what they are using. They just know that the ratcheting chucks meet their overall needs and they utilize those products.
Basically when you rotate back one click, you are setting the ratcheting paws into a locked position and it prevents the bit gripping mechanism from loosening under vibration. It is useful when using the "hammer" feature of drills for masonry work. Not sure if you have ever used a ratcheting screwdriver, but they have a "center" setting that prevents the chuck from rotating. This is very similar to how the ratcheting chuck mechanism works.
@@JJ_ExMachina I understand what it does. I am trying to understand how doing something counterintuitive came to you subconsciously. I would never have thought that turning the chuck in the "loosening" direction would have locked it.
@@coreytohme9861 Not the OP... nothing subconscious about the drills here... The information is in the owner's manual of the drills I purchased a while ago. Not sure about the OP, but the information is/was available.
Subscribed simply because bravo for dealing with all that customer service. Including the recordings was super helpful too. Great video, this was new to me too.
HUGE, huge props for reaching out to all of their terrible email customer support. It is always a horrid experience because those employees just don’t care about your situation and it is reflected in their response.
I saw your first video a few weeks ago. I’d never had the chuck loosen during use. I tried your counterclockwise method and suddenly I had a problem of them loosening. Your counterclockwise trick is counterproductive.
indeed