Cheap Power With a Stock Big Block Chevy
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- Wanted to make this video for quite awhile as there isn't much for content on doing a solid build on a Big Block Chevy without bolting on expensive top end parts. This video will show you how to make power with budget in mind
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Don't forget Richard Holdner also changed the pistons to up the compression to achieve 446hp.
You forgot to mention recurving the distributor,makes a big difference.
Exactly! And with low compression you can advance more! 👍
Disagree about the peanuts dropping off after 4500 rpm. I have a 454(461) .030. And howards Big Mama Rattler cam. Opened up bowl blend. Polished intake ports. (Everything done with a dremel). Cut valve guides for new dual srings and viton seals. Full roller rockers.8.5 compression true flat tops(no small dish in center). RPM air gap. 1" phenolic spacer. Holley ultra 800cfm. Engine pulls to 6000 easily and makes tons of power. Massive torque! Velocity= rate of speed!
I love the big block.
Thanks for the refresher course, brother.
That was a FANTASTIC video! Brief, quick, to the point. I loved it! Subbed!
Hell yeah buddy! 454 with 781 heads right here!
Exactly the kind of info I've been looking for! You rock!
I really like your videos. Good info and right to the point.
Awesome video man, thanks for the help. Definitely will be following
The difference in power you have seen comes from more than just headers and intake. The air filter and housing, accessories, and the engine temperature it was tested at.
Great content bro. Love the channel
Peanut head 454 can take much more than 270 cam. Thats a baby cam. I have a howards big Mama Rattler 235@50 intake... 550+ lift. Thats still a mild cam. Great throttle response and idle. I should have bought the Big Daddy Rattler, would be just fine. But this cam runs great too!
RAT POWER!💪 I'm using a dart single plane intake and rectangular port heads on my 496 big block
comp cam magnum 286 flat tappet cam is a great street cam 236 dur @ 50 and .555 lift use a 2800 to 3500 stall converter been in my chevelle for 10 years very street friendly my engine is stock bottom with forged old school trw's rear gear is 3.42 have had 4.10 and 3.90 but those gears increased traction issues and limit your top end mph. car weighs 3900 lbs runs mid to low 12's depending on traction and driver error. compression has been 9.5 to 1 now is 10 to 1 due to smaller chamber heads
You look like the kind of guy I can ask lots of questions when my 1989 454 k3500 lands in the UK 😎
Great video ! I have the XE 268 Cam in a Peanut Port Head 454 and I love the throttle response and tork .Liked / Subscribed !
Awesome video .. just installed a peanut port ( 360 casting ) 454 ( gen IV ) in my 85 Monte SS today.. 270H magnum cam and 2" super comp headers. This set up was in a running G-body Elky that i bought as a doner car. I got a CK built 2004r backing with 2400 stall and a GN rear with 3.73s this thing should be lots of fun even with the 8:1 CR
Yeah peanut ports really aren't bad like people think! A lot of people making really good power with them. Only reason I'm switching is because I already have a set of oval port heads ready to go and im already doing a cam swap on my truck as well.
@@RatMaro I didnt want to dig into this engine.. ran good in the Elky even with the dead 2.73's and 1200 stall converter . ( had a THD400 ) so the performance should really wake up with the 3.73s and 2400 stall in the Monte with the deeper 2004r gears along with the overdrive.. if im not happy, i'll just wait and do a "top end package"
You almost HEAR that truck reach for TORQUE❤️
I am using 781's right now, but 290's will make well over 500hp with just a little work anyone can do! They are a great head if you are running flat top pistons. Hell, peanut ports will make 500hp as they sit, and might be the best bang for someone who doesn't want to put in a ton of work.
I'm using the 781's with stock valve size, and stainless race valves, on my .030 over 427 bbc. Cam is a Howards 121861-10. 11.66:1 compression, RPM Air Gap, Holley 850 dp, 1-7/8" primaries into a 3" collector that's 18" long. Corrected dyno numbers are 554hp from 5500-6000rpm, and 564lb ft trq from 4500-5000 rpm. Actual numbers for 92 degrees, 60% humidity, and at 1089 feet above sea level are: 504hp from 5500-6000rpm, and torque was at 513 from 4500-5000 rpm. Plenty of power to put my 2962lbs (with driver) S10 drag truck into the mid 10's in the 1/4 and the mid 6's in the 1/8, which is all I'm looking for.
Long live big blocks!! 💪👍
Peanut ports are better up to certain cam limit. Per cam used, they will take better advantage of the cam rpm range and have more velocity through that range. That equals better throttle response etc. Sure, big gigantic ports make bigger peak power but lose much percentage of velocity for the trade off of low end response. In our minds yes, the big ports look and seem appealing but the reality of how they work goes against conventional thinking. VELOCITY= RATE OF SPEED! 👍
Diggin them Pit Vipers my man
great video. sounded like I was talking to myself.
Been running a BBC in my '71 F-250 highboy since 1979.
Good information! I wish I found you a month ago before I learned all this the hard way. Lol. Good summary!
I greatly appreciate it!
@@RatMaro I just picked up a set of complete 049 heads last night off Craigslist from a shop for $100! Killer deal!
Big Blocks rock
3:08 heh
This is so helpful! Any chance of showing us what it took to install and run the sniper?
If you're on a budget just stick with the stock valves in your oval port heads. They should be 2.06 intakes and 1.72 exhausts. You'll only be leaving 25-50 horsepower on the table. But, you'll save nearly $850 that you'd lay out to open up the valves and replace the parts.
If you want to do some of the most amazing burnouts ever...go with peanut ports. You'll have a blast!
Why would the peanut ports be better
@@gavincarroll2553 low end torque
@@josevillegasromerodaniel5841 I thought peanut ports were just all around worse I just bought a big block with peanut ports and started researching them and I have a set of factory hi performance heads but the motors going in a truck I'm not sure if I want to swap them or not
@@gavincarroll2553peanut ports will give extra 50ft lb
I'll always advocate a roller because cam breakin on a flat tappet cam causes me anxiety, heh. :) But yes, they're not cheap, and of course they have their own issues.
BBC guys take note....if you want the best cam Call Straub Technologies and Tell Chris your combo and he will spec you a cam that will be right the first time and make big torque. People that know won’t tell you because that’s their edge! With oval port heads, Straub cam and 750 Holley and 40* total timing your at 500+ HP!
I just scored a set of 063’s off marketplace, one is freshly rebuilt and the other is lightly used, they’re going on a 1982 454 I have, I paid $100 for the heads, deals are out there, just gotta pay attention. 👍🏻
Very good content! Hardest part is finding the big block for a descent price
u can get motor home they all have a crate engine the chevy ones are a crate ho 454 450 hp at 485 torque plus a crate trans bigger pump heavy clutches stage one shift kit most will have the paperwork with them i get them for free then sell or give the motor home away the last one i got i sold for 2000 bucks with out the engine and trans and it only had 6000 miles on it most don't have over 50,000 miles on them an ho is a stroked 454 4 inch stroke the long block is 8000 to buy new can save a lot on a build they put these in for passing power
I got a big block and manual trans for free
Hmm hopefully this setup would work for my gen 4
Subscribed just because the frog intro
Great info 👌 the 820 head are 113cc I have a set on my 396 excellent heads
Cool shades, guess you need them at night.
Got peanut ports... move to large ovals for 50+hp/tq rather than opening up the peanuts. Most 781s have closer to 113cc chambers but be careful with upgrading valves and >.500 lift. If you don't blend the bowls properly you will have huge power losses and the factory valves will actually outflow them
Great vid!!! Very informative!! Subbed n like!!🇺🇸💪🏽
I’m building a 454 out of 83 C30, it’s getting 063 heads opened up for 2.19/1.88 valves, a mild hyd FT cam, dual plane, headers … it’s going in a 78 Monte Carlo. Should run pretty good. Good video
Is the donor for sale?
Thank you bro, im going to be building my stock 1996 c3500 with a 454 hopefully i can get some decent power.
Tough to beat a big block Chevy!!!!
Can you make a video on what type of feul you should be running and also add why to run a certain feul type over another
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Love the hand!
It has so much to say...🤣🤣🤣
Nothing but big blocks please , thanks BigAl California.
You forgot to mention upgrading your springs in your head if you upgrade your cam
I have a vintage 1972 427 ,425 horse gm that was brought from chevy in 1974
I have a L-88 427 short block with 1973 casting year that was bought from a Chevy dealership back in the day that I raced in my 68 Camaro for a few years until I went to a 454. The bore is still like new.
My motor is completely stock besides headers at the moment.... I'm curious what I should do with ONLY Air and fuel. I'm only going to install edelbrock parts so please lmk what you think is best with trying to keep the internals stock and stock heads
Hey there...new subscriber here. Do you know where I can find examples of Gen 4 454 builds? It would be awesome to see what people have successfully done to their 454's. I am trying to not mess up my build!
Question what crosses the line if you have a 1973 C3 Big Block Corvette and you want more power but want the numbers to remain true to the original build? I know there are many implied limitations and you have to first make the assessment the car is really worth saving or claiming it is a survivor. Does a low profile manifold or different heads, headers, carb cause the car to be truly molested? I'm not looking for a track experience or street racing but just some pleasing pulls and jealous looks.
Your videos are awesome. How would a 1986 le8 454 with factor flat top pistons do with 718 heads and a 268cam? It’s in a truck, so I’m looking for torque. The peanut port and the 718 are both 118cc, correct??
It should work great with that cam and head combination! Flat tops can cost a bit of compression, however if you do have the heads off running a steel shim headgasket can raise compression to make more use of the larger camshaft. Even without the steel shim headgasket the combination should work great though.
What trans, converter and rear gear ratio are you running?
I have a 95 454 in my winnebago I need pulling power or low end torch my question is blower or turbo
I see you watch Richard holdener. A little FYI for you, the headers on a factory big block chevy isn't going to give a 30 or 40 hp gain, the camshaft isn't big enough is the reason why. It's not because of the compression either.
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how much total timing do you run on that stock cam 454 with the headers etc.? I have a ‘78 dished piston 454 with peanut port heads and a single plane that came on the engine when i bought it- I cut the valve guides, put a ZZ502 cam, and isky 8005-A springs and trying to get timing right on. It is locked out.
40 degrees...BBC like a lot of total....wakes’em up!
So im not a car nerd by any means but I can wrench on them. I wanna learn engines really bad and I found a cutlass with a 454 in it. So are these bolt ons or do I need to get it tuned or some kind of computer or can I just get new headers, intake, and oval port heads and make like 500+ hrspwr?
That engine would likely have a Carb versus fuel injection. So someone would have to tune the carb to match. If you did these mods I'd probably go with an 850cfm Holley. But yeah these mods are doable, but they are a little on the harder side to accomplish. Headers and intake are pretty easy, heads and cam are a bit harder.
picked up a 1967 396 360hp bbc with 15,000 original miles with everything besides intake and manifolds , for $1500 bucks
Thats a sweet deal!
i found motor homes have great engines in them so far i have got 3 ho 454 out of them the paperwork said 4 inch stroke steel crank heavy rods pushrods the high flow heads at 450 hp at 485 torque stock . heavyduty 400 turbo with the bigger pump heavy clutches stage one shift kit plus twin electric pusher fans 4 row radiator they even been known to put a LS 6 454 in them the last motor home i got only had 6000 miles on it and sold the motor home for 2000 without the engine and trans i got it for free just like a few i have got a hole new world open up for me when i found this out i looked up the crate engine on it and just the long block is 8000 bucks just to stroke a 454 is about 4000 to do it so u can see how much this can save on a build
What year
@@infamousnova the ho 454 was in multi years just depends on what the people order for it all have crate engines in them some better then others some have the 454 pu engine some have the stroked 454 in the 60's they like to use the 427 bbc or the 396 bbc . this next week end i have to pull another 454 out of someone motor home they told me i could have the engine and trans with 58,000 miles on it not sure what 454 is in it but got it sold for 1800 as soon as i get it out after 2000 pretty sure they all had diesel engines in them the 454 was used from 1970 to 2000 in motor homes same with the 460 ford was used a lot of years the 440 mag is a hard one to find in motor homes so if u want a good 454 check the stroke of it the ho has 4 inch stroke the pu engine has 4 1/4 inch stroke then it depends on what the owner order for the engine how heavy he wanted it like steel crank which is more rare the LS 6 454 small block is super rare to find in one but puts out the most hp 485 hp which came out in 1970 which most people think is a bbc but LS had nothing to do with chevy because Leslie Snobosky never worked for chevy he started the GM racing division the LS line most people don't know what LS means
@@melissaweidman3326 you should make a video of you pulling it. I also had someone offer on one, its a 1985 so I doubt its the high hp one
@@infamousnova check the stroke if it is 4 inch it is a ho engine on a 454 just pull the spark plug check the stroke and use a staw and a felt pin 4 1/4 is a standard 454 pu engine basically or truck engine about 380 hp still it is a good engine to build either way u can't lose with a 454 just it will have pea heads u have to change them to get more power out of it but u can get 550 to 600 hp with the heads by porting them but i would change them best is the oval port high flow heads for the street square port for drag racing aftermarket is good for both unless u get like top fuel heads which i have a set of hemi heads for a 454 just don't have the engine for them
Motor home 454s are hard to come by where I am.
Good videos man .. I just came across searching for 454 builds 👊😉
Do you recommend to bore if I plan to maybe boost in the future? Just for street looks not for track
Boring the block is fine, 454s have a thick cylinder wall and can be bored 0.100-0.125. However there isn't all that much performance gain just from boring the block, I personally like to leave them alone unless it needs an over bore to clean the cylinders up. Or if you want to just run a light over bore of 30-60 thousandths. But yeah you should not have issues so long as you don't max out the cylinder with an overbore.
@@RatMaro thanks for replying brother! I rather not to be honest I know the basics of mechanics but never opened a block so it will be my first time working on a build
I have headera, 750 holley carb, cam and intake (not sure specs) I paid a guy and returned it to me running but might pull it out to clean the engine area
Should I add the heads and valves? Any videos on a build explaining the steps?
Appreciate your time !
I have a 1990 454 SS pick up and a set of 396 325 hp heads # 702 will these perform better than the peanut ports .
I wanna install a comp 260 ah cam to keep the tbi and a custom chip.
Those heads are great just get a good valve job, bowl blend and widen/flatten the short side radius....if you want a little extra then plunge cut the chamber wall to unshroud the intake valve.....good for 550 HP with the right cam, which you need spec’ed by Chris Straub....he has bad ass grinds and has Clay Smith cut them.... After this you have a severe traction problem....
Great video, with the 268H do you need a stall converter? If so what stall? Thanks in advance
Get in contact with the manufacturer of the cam , with every cam they have a suggested stall convertor. 🍻
2000 stall should be ok
Just point at it.
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What about the rectangular port heads?
Oem rec port heads are expensive as hell. Performance after market aluminum heads are also pretty high. So for a budget build they don’t fit the scope of the video.
I like your Camaro but you don't have an Edelbrock air gap as I see a performer or RPM style. I AGREE 781 and 049 heads are great as I have 4 sets in my garage. LoL. My 1969 nova 396 has 781 heads with 219x188 valves and runs 10.32 in 1/4 mile. Hopefully my procharger 600PB will push me into 9's.
Thats under the hood of my peanut port headed truck, it's a chevy casting intake off of a crate 502. For my 68 Camaro I have a fully ported dart tunnel ram, aiming for 9s on motor with a high compression 439 haha.
@@RatMaro sounds like a whole bunch of good old fashioned reckless fun! 👍
What springs are needed to install a big block
@@infamousnova several companies actually sell “big block front springs”
What would you say about a cam for a 496?
Call Straub Technology! Best BBC grinds out there!
Do you get it tuned after install
No need with the Holley Sniper. It self tunes the more you drive. However it can be manually tuned as well.
What’s your opinion on this combo
396 bored .030 / 402
680 cfm Holley electric vacuum carb
Lunati voodoo 550 lift cam
188 - rectangular open port heads
Compression of 9:1
KB domed pistons
Hedman long tube headers 3inch
Weiand team g intake single plane
Awesome combo! Should run pretty good! The carb might be a bit small however, probably going to at minimum want a 750
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Get your hand out of the way.
Well you need to match your cam with your valve Springs and also match the cam with a stall converter