I scored a round style blackjack as you’re describing from a dude I work with for 10 bucks and I was like hell yeah I’ll pay 10 bucks for that because it’s like the leather work on the thing alone is worth more than 10 bucks
@@julesthurongi1223 yes. I did. But it kinda defeats the purpose of a sap if you're slicing the dudes head open. Unless you want to limit yourself to using one side of it which is kind of dumb too..
Ethan Ciantar The idea, is that I’m not a law-enforcement officer, so if I am pulling something like a sap, I am in deep caca anyways if caught with it by the proper authorities.... And I don’t give a flying you-know-what if the bad guy is beat to a messy pulp after accosting me, or the innocents that are in my presence. This isn’t the only model of sap that has had a weight side clip. The thinking and philosophy behind it is that, like a holstered duty weapon that is firmly strapped to a side, it will be there when you reach and grab for it. Sometimes when carrying a piece of gear in the pocket, movement, especially movement associated with a standing or on the ground grapple, gear items can shift enough to make reaching and grabbing for them nigh impossible when you’re on top of a perpetrator, or have been dog piled upon by one or more people This design feature was conceived by a retired law-enforcement officer, and then brought to life by the sap maker. The design works in its intended purpose. Furthermore, if you strike with a woven headed blackjack, or the edge of a sap, you run the risk of severely lacerating skin/flesh anyways.
@@julesthurongi1223 I get the functionality aspect and to be honest I wouldn't care too much about the perp if the situation called for ko-ing him but my point is a key reason for the design of a sap is to be a less lethal weapon (it might actually be the first less lethal weapon in history come to think) because a simple weighted club would just crush the skull. The leather and spring are designed for that purpose so putting a peice of steel on top of the leather defeats that purpose to some degree. Thats all I'm saying.
Ethan Ciantar understood... it’s obviously a trade off and there is that element of risk when deploying something as inexact as a lead/leather based impact weapon, which technically, you’re NOT supposed to strike above the shoulders without a very good reason, especially if you’re LE or security. A more conventional sap might be better if you’re completely trying to avoid an effusion of body fluids when engaged with a suspect/perp... It must also be pointed out, while I think the clip would deliver a NASTY gash, I don’t think it makes the sap more lethal than practically any blackjack, especially some of the larger cable framed numbers which could easily maim/kill with a blow to the head...
I scored a round style blackjack as you’re describing from a dude I work with for 10 bucks and I was like hell yeah I’ll pay 10 bucks for that because it’s like the leather work on the thing alone is worth more than 10 bucks
Very informative review. Excellent looking sap!
Have you ever looked at greenman leathers saps? I own one and I'm very happy with his work, maybe you would want one for your collection...
Nice job on the vid
Thanks man!! And I just saw your vids!! Subbed in a hot second!! 😂👍
Beautiful but why put a clip on the striking head?
Ethan Ciantar Did you watch the video?
I explained it very carefully, and in detail in the video.
@@julesthurongi1223 yes. I did. But it kinda defeats the purpose of a sap if you're slicing the dudes head open. Unless you want to limit yourself to using one side of it which is kind of dumb too..
Ethan Ciantar The idea, is that I’m not a law-enforcement officer, so if I am pulling something like a sap, I am in deep caca anyways if caught with it by the proper authorities....
And I don’t give a flying you-know-what if the bad guy is beat to a messy pulp after accosting me, or the innocents that are in my presence.
This isn’t the only model of sap that has had a weight side clip.
The thinking and philosophy behind it is that, like a holstered duty weapon that is firmly strapped to a side, it will be there when you reach and grab for it.
Sometimes when carrying a piece of gear in the pocket, movement, especially movement associated with a standing or on the ground grapple, gear items can shift enough to make reaching and grabbing for them nigh impossible when you’re on top of a perpetrator, or have been dog piled upon by one or more people
This design feature was conceived by a retired law-enforcement officer, and then brought to life by the sap maker.
The design works in its intended purpose.
Furthermore, if you strike with a woven headed blackjack, or the edge of a sap, you run the risk of severely lacerating skin/flesh anyways.
@@julesthurongi1223 I get the functionality aspect and to be honest I wouldn't care too much about the perp if the situation called for ko-ing him but my point is a key reason for the design of a sap is to be a less lethal weapon (it might actually be the first less lethal weapon in history come to think) because a simple weighted club would just crush the skull. The leather and spring are designed for that purpose so putting a peice of steel on top of the leather defeats that purpose to some degree. Thats all I'm saying.
Ethan Ciantar understood... it’s obviously a trade off and there is that element of risk when deploying something as inexact as a lead/leather based impact weapon, which technically, you’re NOT supposed to strike above the shoulders without a very good reason, especially if you’re LE or security.
A more conventional sap might be better if you’re completely trying to avoid an effusion of body fluids when engaged with a suspect/perp...
It must also be pointed out, while I think the clip would deliver a NASTY gash, I don’t think it makes the sap more lethal than practically any blackjack, especially some of the larger cable framed numbers which could easily maim/kill with a blow to the head...