You started with a big splash onto the kaiju scene with the feature length documentary and now here is an equally strong follow up! While I wish Godzilla vs the Sea Monster did have more monster action, the human characters and their adventure are highly entertaining. I am also happy to see you give Gamera the Brave a favorable showcase as I too love that film and wish we lived in the world where more Toto films were produced.
Personally, I would like to see a kaiju film that doesn’t involve any humans, but not because I hate the humans, far from it, but because I just think it would be a really neat idea. That being said, yeah… we need the human characters to ground our stories and add a way to follow the story. Also, finally, someone else who recognizes why Pacific Rim’s human cast is as good as it is
I hope you will cover Ultraman and the Ultra-series as part of your kaiju media discussion in the future. Ultraman is a fundamental part of kaiju media and the human stories in Ultraman have a big impact on how other kaiju media on film are portrayed.
Thank you for talking about how so many people view these as just "funny cheap movies" to make fun of. Every piece of art is worth taking seriously, and writing things off and making fun of them just because it doesn't fit your specific criteria of what a movie should be is so sad and cynical
The human element of Kaiju films generally gives the movies real weight and substance. Without these human characters to anchor the story, all you have is flashy action, which is cool, sure, but doesn't leave near as strong an impression as an emotionally engaging character driven human story.
The first Godzilla film i saw as a kid was 85. It terrfied me. Godzilla looks like a giant evil Frankenstein and that music still gives me chills. It breaks my heart that theme has never been used agian.
Wow, another amazing video and it was so soon as well. You really hit the nail on the head with this one and highlighted some of my favorite kaiju films that deserve more love. Invasion of Astro monster was one of my favorite Godzilla films as a kid and I'm so glad you gave it the light of the day in this video. Ebirah, horror of the deep is one that my friend likes a lot and is truly such a unique film that needed some praise, he will be happy that you mentioned it. The Gamera trilogy is obviously amazing but I AM SO GLAD that you talked about Gamera The Brave. I love that film so much and in my opinion it is a definitive modern showa style Gamera story, thank you for talking about. Plus you saying it's your favorite proves that you're are becoming the definitive kaiju youtuber :) Also you also have also given me a new perspective on Pacific Rim as I never really gave it too much thought but now when I re-watch it I'll be sure to give it another chance. Once again you have made an amazing video and you'll definitely be going places.
But even Godzilla's Revenge had interesting human characters and an interesting story. Whether you like it or not is is another story, but it's far from boring. Especially when Ichiro pulls a Home Alone on the two robbers.
Love the video! My personal favorite human story has always been Godzilla 2000 - the characterization in that film always felt very distinct and its stuck with me ever since i first watched it and when I think about great human casts, that line up of characters pops into my head.
OK, I think there's something important we should admit about Pacific Rim: the relationship between Raleigh and Mako is, or it should have been, entirely romantic. It's OBVIOUS from their first scene together that these two like each other. They are young and attractive and they have a mental connection that it's difficult to find even in the best of couples. NO ONE has such a deep and intense relationship with a "friend." The CORE of the ENTIRE movie is LOVE, and the only type of love comparable to that of siblings is ROMANTIC, as simple as that. It infuriates me that the script refuses to bring the story to its logical conclusion. Instead of a kiss, both characters look at each other half smiling, somewhat awkwardly, after one of the most disappointing third acts in the history of action cinema (especially after the brilliance of the battle of Hong Kong). What's wrong with passion? Why deny the characters a proper closure? Why can't two people just, you know, be in love with each other? I understand that the filmmakers thought that the romantic subplot was a little too "cliché" but throwing it out the window is a huge mistake, especially considering the performance of Charlie Hunnam and Rinko Kikuchi.
Coincidentally, I wrote an article that was published in Scary Monsters Magazine called THE BORING PEOPLE PARTS that focused on much of what this video discusses, though not for Kaiju films exclusively. Indeed, I wrote about the human characters and drama of GOJIRA (1954), as well as THE VALLEY OF GWANGI (1969). Your interpretation of the human story for PACIFIC RIM is far kinder than in my article; I felt as if I’ve seen those characters in so many kaiju films that they were simply rehashed, same-old-same-old stereotypes that had me fidgeting in my seat. That being said, I very much enjoyed this video!
This was excellent! It's my first time seeing your channel, and of course I subbed. This has been an agrument I've been making to friends and people who would listen for a long time. I have even gone so far to make human centered kaiju tabletop games. I can't wait for your next video.
This is a great video, and I’m excited to watch more of your content. The human drama is solid in Godzilla ‘84, but I don’t think the characters themselves are very interesting, unfortunately. Again this video is outstanding!
A list of kaiju movies with my favorite human casts: Mothra (1961) King Kong vs Godzilla Frankenstein vs Baragon Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla 2 Godzilla 2000 Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla And this one is cheating, but some of the Ultraman shows have excellent human characters.
Art is subject and people with look for what they want in it, that being said there is nothing about kuija movie that prevents a compelling human stories or characters.
I would argue that the Heisei era film, Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla 2, has one of the best human casts of any of the Japanese Godzilla movies. The human story is not only intertwined with the kaiju, but the characters are actually likeable.
I've heard that Pacific Rim would have been better if the two main Character introductions had been reversed. With the Asian Actress seeing the Mechas as heroic saviors and train to become a pilot. Then have the male protagonist lose his brother in battle in a reality check.
What a channel bro. Did you have an old deleted channel or something? Because it's insane how good your first few videos are. I am so glad i found you and cant wait seeing what may come
I personally think the only way a kaiju story could work without human characters if and only if it was a narrated mockumentary, like a fake nature documentary about kaiju biology and ecology and so on. And yeah, I agree that more people need to pay attention to the human characters. Personally, I may love a good kaiju fight as much as the next person, but I need my kaiju genre humans to be good or at least interesting/funny/etc, or I’ll check out before the monster action even starts.
I think another franchise that has good human drama is the ultra series naming to keep with the conversation ultraman the next seriously that movie is so underrated overall really good video
you're right about the themes of pacific rim but I'm sorry to say I don't think the writing and acting holds up to a high enough level to carry the film. Maybe I need to rewatch it but I didn't find most of the writing very convincing, and it felt like the movie's tone vacillated wildly too often to figure out how it wanted to be seen. That being said, I still like it and thought it was a good movie, but I don't think criticism of the human element of the story is entirely misplaced.
I do ageee the human is important even in the monsterverse the human element is very important especially in films like kotm and kong skullisland. Thought not to say the human element can't vary depending on the story being told. Examples of the human element Varying to film to film depending on their purpose and story being written is in gvk i see the human characters as supporting characters to Kong the protagonist,in pacific rim their role is even more important as their the ones in mecha confronting the kaiju to save the world. The humans narrative may vary depending on the films but they do have a purpose. That's my general take on the matter.
The only 2 Godzilla movies with unbearable human characters are 98 and the anime trilogy. I found the human stories at least interesting in the other movies
You started with a big splash onto the kaiju scene with the feature length documentary and now here is an equally strong follow up! While I wish Godzilla vs the Sea Monster did have more monster action, the human characters and their adventure are highly entertaining. I am also happy to see you give Gamera the Brave a favorable showcase as I too love that film and wish we lived in the world where more Toto films were produced.
The moment someone says humans don’t matter in Godzilla or Toku, I just ignore their opinion because it isn’t worth listening to
I fully believe Red Bamboo would make great antagonists if brought back in a future Godzilla film.
I find it impossible to believe that there are people who hate the human plot in the Rebirth of Mothra trilogy.
Personally, I would like to see a kaiju film that doesn’t involve any humans, but not because I hate the humans, far from it, but because I just think it would be a really neat idea.
That being said, yeah… we need the human characters to ground our stories and add a way to follow the story.
Also, finally, someone else who recognizes why Pacific Rim’s human cast is as good as it is
Ikr! Pacific rim is my favorite movie of all time,I'm so happy to see someone who understands the film and doesn't see it as "dumb"
I really appreciate the love for Ebirah. That’s a really underrated gem in the franchise. One of the entries with the most adventurous feel.
I hope you will cover Ultraman and the Ultra-series as part of your kaiju media discussion in the future. Ultraman is a fundamental part of kaiju media and the human stories in Ultraman have a big impact on how other kaiju media on film are portrayed.
Excellent video, and you're absolutely right about spectacle overshadowing storytelling. It's not even a problem limited to Kaiju movies either.
When I was getting older, I started to like the human characters a lot more because they give the monsters their importants.
After seening Minus 1 I felt like I treated the human characters to harshly throughout the years heck in Minus 1 I grew close to the main character.
Thank you for talking about how so many people view these as just "funny cheap movies" to make fun of. Every piece of art is worth taking seriously, and writing things off and making fun of them just because it doesn't fit your specific criteria of what a movie should be is so sad and cynical
The human element of Kaiju films generally gives the movies real weight and substance. Without these human characters to anchor the story, all you have is flashy action, which is cool, sure, but doesn't leave near as strong an impression as an emotionally engaging character driven human story.
The first Godzilla film i saw as a kid was 85. It terrfied me. Godzilla looks like a giant evil Frankenstein and that music still gives me chills. It breaks my heart that theme has never been used agian.
Wow, another amazing video and it was so soon as well. You really hit the nail on the head with this one and highlighted some of my favorite kaiju films that deserve more love. Invasion of Astro monster was one of my favorite Godzilla films as a kid and I'm so glad you gave it the light of the day in this video. Ebirah, horror of the deep is one that my friend likes a lot and is truly such a unique film that needed some praise, he will be happy that you mentioned it.
The Gamera trilogy is obviously amazing but I AM SO GLAD that you talked about Gamera The Brave. I love that film so much and in my opinion it is a definitive modern showa style Gamera story, thank you for talking about. Plus you saying it's your favorite proves that you're are becoming the definitive kaiju youtuber :)
Also you also have also given me a new perspective on Pacific Rim as I never really gave it too much thought but now when I re-watch it I'll be sure to give it another chance.
Once again you have made an amazing video and you'll definitely be going places.
Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla is the human story i keep going back to. Did the survivor's guilt thing way before Minus One.
Yeah but it wasn’t as good.
a fourth video from Bog O'Bones? keep em coming! Well done analysis
This makes you wonder which film started the myth of the human plot being boring.
My guess is Godzilla's Revenge.
or those godawful boring as Kong said in Epic Rap Battles of History, Godzilla Anime Trilogy
@@SakurakoLover could you rephrase that?
@ZzyzzywiczZenzizenzic he is saying the Godzilla anime movies. ERB brought that up I guess
@@kingcharles4335 Probably the 1998 and 2014 movies
But even Godzilla's Revenge had interesting human characters and an interesting story. Whether you like it or not is is another story, but it's far from boring. Especially when Ichiro pulls a Home Alone on the two robbers.
Love the video!
My personal favorite human story has always been Godzilla 2000 - the characterization in that film always felt very distinct and its stuck with me ever since i first watched it and when I think about great human casts, that line up of characters pops into my head.
Man I hope you become THE kaiju TH-camr, I don't follow anyone who does stuff like you, and I hope you keep growing !
Great videos all around. Couldnt ask for more honestly
マイケル・ドハティの言葉
「何にだって、どんな映画にだって、ゴジラを加えればより良くなると僕は思っている。想像してごらんよ、「スター・ウォーズ」にゴジラを足したら、やばいだろ？ 「七人の侍」だってさらに良くなる。54年版の「ゴジラ」にゴジラを足したら、ゴジラがダブルで登場してさらにやばい。」
This video goes hard
OK, I think there's something important we should admit about Pacific Rim: the relationship between Raleigh and Mako is, or it should have been, entirely romantic. It's OBVIOUS from their first scene together that these two like each other. They are young and attractive and they have a mental connection that it's difficult to find even in the best of couples. NO ONE has such a deep and intense relationship with a "friend." The CORE of the ENTIRE movie is LOVE, and the only type of love comparable to that of siblings is ROMANTIC, as simple as that. It infuriates me that the script refuses to bring the story to its logical conclusion. Instead of a kiss, both characters look at each other half smiling, somewhat awkwardly, after one of the most disappointing third acts in the history of action cinema (especially after the brilliance of the battle of Hong Kong). What's wrong with passion? Why deny the characters a proper closure? Why can't two people just, you know, be in love with each other? I understand that the filmmakers thought that the romantic subplot was a little too "cliché" but throwing it out the window is a huge mistake, especially considering the performance of Charlie Hunnam and Rinko Kikuchi.
Coincidentally, I wrote an article that was published in Scary Monsters Magazine called THE BORING PEOPLE PARTS that focused on much of what this video discusses, though not for Kaiju films exclusively. Indeed, I wrote about the human characters and drama of GOJIRA (1954), as well as THE VALLEY OF GWANGI (1969). Your interpretation of the human story for PACIFIC RIM is far kinder than in my article; I felt as if I’ve seen those characters in so many kaiju films that they were simply rehashed, same-old-same-old stereotypes that had me fidgeting in my seat. That being said, I very much enjoyed this video!
Another great video. I hope you make even more videos about Kaiju movies
Godzilla 2002 has one best human story
0:05 - 0:13
Yeah, that title only goes for 2014's "GODZILLA".
This was excellent! It's my first time seeing your channel, and of course I subbed. This has been an agrument I've been making to friends and people who would listen for a long time. I have even gone so far to make human centered kaiju tabletop games. I can't wait for your next video.
Ironically, some of the people who disrespect the kaiju genre the most are kaiju fans themselves.
This is what g fans need to here
great stuff friend.
This is a great video, and I’m excited to watch more of your content. The human drama is solid in Godzilla ‘84, but I don’t think the characters themselves are very interesting, unfortunately. Again this video is outstanding!
A list of kaiju movies with my favorite human casts:
Mothra (1961)
King Kong vs Godzilla
Frankenstein vs Baragon
Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla 2
Godzilla 2000
Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla
And this one is cheating, but some of the Ultraman shows have excellent human characters.
Godzilla vs Mechagodzillla II is ehhhhhhhhhh well i personally dont like it even in the kaiju scenes [MY OPINION]
GODZILLA (1984) is my favorite ‼️ I’ve been spending too much money on it though. 😢
Art is subject and people with look for what they want in it, that being said there is nothing about kuija movie that prevents a compelling human stories or characters.
It would be something interesting to see a zombie pandemic within a Kaiju Eiga movie
I would argue that the Heisei era film, Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla 2, has one of the best human casts of any of the Japanese Godzilla movies. The human story is not only intertwined with the kaiju, but the characters are actually likeable.
I've heard that Pacific Rim would have been better if the two main Character introductions had been reversed. With the Asian Actress seeing the Mechas as heroic saviors and train to become a pilot. Then have the male protagonist lose his brother in battle in a reality check.
Loving your stuff so far, keep it up 👍
What a channel bro. Did you have an old deleted channel or something? Because it's insane how good your first few videos are. I am so glad i found you and cant wait seeing what may come
I still want a movie with no humans
I personally think the only way a kaiju story could work without human characters if and only if it was a narrated mockumentary, like a fake nature documentary about kaiju biology and ecology and so on.
And yeah, I agree that more people need to pay attention to the human characters. Personally, I may love a good kaiju fight as much as the next person, but I need my kaiju genre humans to be good or at least interesting/funny/etc, or I’ll check out before the monster action even starts.
I actually really like the human stuff more then the kaiju stuff (sometimes). Mothra vs Godzilla had a great human plot, best part of the movie
I think another franchise that has good human drama is the ultra series naming to keep with the conversation ultraman the next seriously that movie is so underrated overall really good video
you're right about the themes of pacific rim but I'm sorry to say I don't think the writing and acting holds up to a high enough level to carry the film. Maybe I need to rewatch it but I didn't find most of the writing very convincing, and it felt like the movie's tone vacillated wildly too often to figure out how it wanted to be seen. That being said, I still like it and thought it was a good movie, but I don't think criticism of the human element of the story is entirely misplaced.
I do ageee the human is important even in the monsterverse the human element is very important especially in films like kotm and kong skullisland.
Thought not to say the human element can't vary depending on the story being told. Examples of the human element Varying to film to film depending on their purpose and story being written is in gvk i see the human characters as supporting characters to Kong the protagonist,in pacific rim their role is even more important as their the ones in mecha confronting the kaiju to save the world. The humans narrative may vary depending on the films but they do have a purpose.
That's my general take on the matter.
The only 2 Godzilla movies with unbearable human characters are 98 and the anime trilogy. I found the human stories at least interesting in the other movies
Heh that was quick
Minus one jjad great humans in it and mome ts with them
My fav human interaction was in Godzilla 2000 :D It was both funny and endearing !
Io Shinoda is adorable