It was a hangover from the EMT colours. EMT livery looks much better, more modern, and cleaner looking. Classy yet understated - like the GWR, and Grand Central liveries.
That might be because the interviewer asked him to run through the fleet plan by class. If he hadn't I'd have asked him to do it again :-) (yes - I asked the questions and he gave the answers I wanted for the people we expect will watch the video...) ITV did a more general interview if you're not interested in the detail...
@Ben's Transport Videos its great to know but are you MD or CEO of a rail company? I said so cuz most of the time these people won't even know what they are talking about.
I think the class 180s are only temporary to cover the time between the HSTs retiring and the new Hitachis being delivered - the 222s will still be operating alongside them.
The Class 180s are only temporary to replace the HSTs which aren't compliant with current regs. The 222s wont be retired until the 800s arrive in 2022 - these will then replace both the 222s and 180s, running in both 5 car and 10 car formats.
He mentioned the 170s coming in on the regional fleet but he also said they would be running alongside new stock. I wonder what that may be. "The regional lines are the lifeblood of the regions. They will be served by either brand new units or refurbished ones" I hope we get FLIRTs like GA
Especially on the Grimsby to Newark Northgate Route. Still could be worse they could have had Pacers still in rolling stock like Northern which still come to Lincoln
When I used the BR Crewe-Derby service, from September 1957 for 10 years, we had lovely 1st generation 3 car DMU's later classed as 104's. Built by BRCW & very roomy & comfortable. :-)
@@MartinEdwards26 The 170s we have through lincoln still have the Green interior from London Midland before it was West Mids Railway, Just with new Purple EMR Paintjob.
How about more trains stopping at stations like Netherfield instead of whizzing past without stopping? Netherfields in a built up area and would benefit from a decent rail service
I like the way the ‘Corby service’ was quickly brushed over! An EMU with 3 +2 seats for Corby and Wellingborough. No direct link now between Luton, Bedford and Wellingborough to Leicester. Stations south of Kettering now get a downgraded quality of service. That wasn’t mentioned!
exactly! before emr was a thing I got the train quite a lot of the time from derby to luton airport parkway directly. now, I have to change 3 times! EMR connect shouldn't be called emr connect, it's disconnecting people from other destinations!
I hope East Midlands Railway can retain the Nottingham-Norwich route and possibly extend from Norwich to Derby, Birmingham New Street, Sheffield and Leicester. But at least they have taken over from East Midlands Trains that Stagecoach lost the franchise.
OH GIVE OVER !!! 🙄🙄🙄🙄 they are NOT IRON BOARDS stupid comment !!! At a guess you’re a ‘ let’s keep old falling apart HST trains we hate anything not British ‘ old fart !! THEY ARE GONE !!
Why, I worked for BR in the 70s it was appalling. Line closures no investment old crap stock. The only good thing was HST which was meant as a stop gap for APTE. Also taxes on everyone will have to rise to pay for your utopia.I guess you are also in favour of the closed shop for the industry too.
I started to work for BR InterCity &ScotRail in 1986. I saw the difference between BR&Privatisation. ScotRail was the last to be Privatised. I worked Class 47 Push Pulls&HSTs on the E&Gs. In the 90s I worked 60009 as Osprey&Union of South Africa. I loved working the Caledonian Sleepers with the Class 47s,37s,86s,87s&90s. The old loco hauled train's provided more coaches than the 158s that replaced them.
2 years down the line & we've still seen no movement on the 360's being refurbished. I don't buy covid as an excuse as other operators have managed to get refurbishments done through the pandemic.
I agree. Sadly it isn't up to the TOCs to decide, it's up to Network Rail and central government. TOCs order bi-modes because it's the best use of their semi-electrified network. They basically have bi-modes forced upon them by the government!
How about instead of putting all the money into new trains onto the mainline, Get the regional services up to scratch! 'New 170s' Like hell are they new they are from 99/2000 and your still running grungy old Sprinters from the 80s. 'The MML needs new stock' No it doesn't 222s were refurbished quite recently and run fine. Give us the speel that the 170s will be refurbished, No they haven't and they have just got a new paint job still the nasty green interior from West Mids Trains and the seats are manky and absolutely shot with some you sit on plastic with all the padding gone.
321 Dustybin What are you talking about. The Class 357s will not be cascaded to EMR. c2c will not get rid of them. c2c are replacing the Class 387/3 with the Class 720/6 Aventra that is scheduled to enter service next year.
I'll miss the orange and white swoop :( very classic at least it still on buses
I still see them in my area
well stagecoach has a new livery now :(
It was a hangover from the EMT colours. EMT livery looks much better, more modern, and cleaner looking. Classy yet understated - like the GWR, and Grand Central liveries.
EMR Electric! Finally some news on the local lines through Kettering :)
rjc0234 and With Class 360s & Class 156s cascaded from Greater Anglia.
WHAT DOSE NXEA MEAN
Wish they would use Class 378
@@flybe001 NXEA= national express east anglia
Class 180s shouldn't be put on the MML.
People will be going nowhere.
Going nowhere - nice Paul Tyreman reference lol
@@RWL2012
Unexpected technical issues
Nah mate it's not a fault, they just didn't put a light in it
Abellio up here in Scotland & now EMR.
PSCavalier 95 Yp and in East Anglia and West Midlands.
MD of EMR seems like a railfan throwing out-train Class/names like a boss.
That might be because the interviewer asked him to run through the fleet plan by class. If he hadn't I'd have asked him to do it again :-) (yes - I asked the questions and he gave the answers I wanted for the people we expect will watch the video...) ITV did a more general interview if you're not interested in the detail...
@@tonymiles3303 no I absolutely loved the interview.
@Ben's Transport Videos its great to know but are you MD or CEO of a rail company? I said so cuz most of the time these people won't even know what they are talking about.
Well done EMR 👍🏻
What was wrong with the Class 222s? The Class 180 is unreliable. Do these new franchises have common sense?
@@TaxiwayKilo no they are not the class 180 have had nothing but problems with gwr and hull trains
I think the class 180s are only temporary to cover the time between the HSTs retiring and the new Hitachis being delivered - the 222s will still be operating alongside them.
look at grand central mate,they replaced HSTs and ran fine
The Class 180s are only temporary to replace the HSTs which aren't compliant with current regs. The 222s wont be retired until the 800s arrive in 2022 - these will then replace both the 222s and 180s, running in both 5 car and 10 car formats.
Class 810 (formerly Class 804) are replacing the Class 43 HST & Class 222.
When will the last ever HST leave st pancras
When will be the fairwell tour if your doing one
He mentioned the 170s coming in on the regional fleet but he also said they would be running alongside new stock. I wonder what that may be. "The regional lines are the lifeblood of the regions. They will be served by either brand new units or refurbished ones" I hope we get FLIRTs like GA
Yeeey to more Hitachis and their oh so loved ironing board seats! The glorious days of the HST are truly over. :-(
They are hard to maintain
The class 360s are now in cricklewood sidings
Who chose THAT as a livery! It looks like the Pullman of old but so odd on a modern unit. Lighter colours look so much nicer in my opinion.
Nothing less than 2 cars? We shall watch that on the Lincolnshire routes
Especially on the Grimsby to Newark Northgate Route. Still could be worse they could have had Pacers still in rolling stock like Northern which still come to Lincoln
Will all these trains stop at Bedford?
Chereon Jalloh some of EMR trains will stop at Bedford. But Bedford is mostly served by Thameslink & West Midlands Trains.
The Corby train only.
WMR don't go to bedford
@@millercool21 LNWR/WMR go to Bedford on the Marston Vale line (Bedford to Bletchley) using class 230 D-trains (Ex London Underground stock)
I can,t wait to be rid of the awful class 153 we have suffered on the Crewe derby service
It does get very busy whenever I go on.
I just hope the replacement Turbostars have been refurbished with more comfortable seats.
When I used the BR Crewe-Derby service, from September 1957 for 10 years, we had lovely 1st generation 3 car DMU's later classed as 104's. Built by BRCW & very roomy & comfortable. :-)
@@MartinEdwards26 The 170s we have through lincoln still have the Green interior from London Midland before it was West Mids Railway, Just with new Purple EMR Paintjob.
@@lincolntrains2639 they appear to have gone back top Sprinters for the time being, that is when they actually run at all!!!
How about more trains stopping at stations like Netherfield instead of whizzing past without stopping?
Netherfields in a built up area and would benefit from a decent rail service
I live in Bedford in my whole life i have been used to class 222 and class 43 i am begging u don't get rid of them 😢😢
I like the way the ‘Corby service’ was quickly brushed over! An EMU with 3 +2 seats for Corby and Wellingborough. No direct link now between Luton, Bedford and Wellingborough to Leicester. Stations south of Kettering now get a downgraded quality of service. That wasn’t mentioned!
exactly! before emr was a thing I got the train quite a lot of the time from derby to luton airport parkway directly. now, I have to change 3 times! EMR connect shouldn't be called emr connect, it's disconnecting people from other destinations!
I hope East Midlands Railway can retain the Nottingham-Norwich route and possibly extend from Norwich to Derby, Birmingham New Street, Sheffield and Leicester. But at least they have taken over from East Midlands Trains that Stagecoach lost the franchise.
Yes but let there be better rolling stock and retain 4 coaches for the whole journey. The two coaches from Peterborough are always jammed packed.
We need at least 3 carriages on the Norwich to Liverpool service. Chronic overcrowding at times.
Yay! Intercity ironing boards are coming in service!...............horray....
OH GIVE OVER !!! 🙄🙄🙄🙄 they are NOT IRON BOARDS stupid comment !!! At a guess you’re a ‘ let’s keep old falling apart HST trains we hate anything not British ‘ old fart !! THEY ARE GONE !!
@@Fedderchini Cool your pipes. No need to get on your high horse over someone having an opinion
Hopefully all railway companies in the UK get renationalized soon...
Why, I worked for BR in the 70s it was appalling. Line closures no investment old crap stock. The only good thing was HST which was meant as a stop gap for APTE. Also taxes on everyone will have to rise to pay for your utopia.I guess you are also in favour of the closed shop for the industry too.
Yeah who needs engineering jobs in this country, we should just all work in Tesco's eh?
I started to work for BR InterCity &ScotRail in 1986. I saw the difference between BR&Privatisation. ScotRail was the last to be Privatised. I worked Class 47 Push Pulls&HSTs on the E&Gs. In the 90s I worked 60009 as Osprey&Union of South Africa. I loved working the Caledonian Sleepers with the Class 47s,37s,86s,87s&90s. The old loco hauled train's provided more coaches than the 158s that replaced them.
what will happen to the class 158??
Likely given to another TOC
2 years down the line & we've still seen no movement on the 360's being refurbished. I don't buy covid as an excuse as other operators have managed to get refurbishments done through the pandemic.
Shame they want to replace the class 158s. There is more seating capacity on a 2 car 158 than a 2 car 170.
@ Heightallandhe
Anything south of Kettering no longer exists if you ask EMR
oooo class 800 coming to EMR in 2020 cant wait
same
2022 actually
reeeee delay
Mr Joke boi all by end of 2022
It’s actually Class 810 (previously Class 804)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_810
That's if they have sufficient staff to operate them and trains that work! Sceptical especially with electrics, look at the crap with electric cars😖😖😖
The hst is still a valuable asset what you going to for them
Only when they are well maintained. the HST's were barely holding together with the previous owners.
The hst don't comply with the new regulations so need modification which cost lots of money
@@mjradar nothing angel trains cant deal with keep them as extras
@@alfiewhittaker3763 I can only think its down to if the TOC want to use them no point modifying if no TOC wants them
Shame there’s no class 153
Flying Scotsman A3 honestly I can’t stand them
*_I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF FECKING BI-MODE TRAINS!!!!_*
They're just an excuse not to electrify! A pathetic excuse!
I agree. Sadly it isn't up to the TOCs to decide, it's up to Network Rail and central government. TOCs order bi-modes because it's the best use of their semi-electrified network. They basically have bi-modes forced upon them by the government!
Yay there are a few
How about instead of putting all the money into new trains onto the mainline, Get the regional services up to scratch! 'New 170s' Like hell are they new they are from 99/2000 and your still running grungy old Sprinters from the 80s. 'The MML needs new stock' No it doesn't 222s were refurbished quite recently and run fine. Give us the speel that the 170s will be refurbished, No they haven't and they have just got a new paint job still the nasty green interior from West Mids Trains and the seats are manky and absolutely shot with some you sit on plastic with all the padding gone.
Hopefully they won't become the new southern
Tbh southern in OK now
Dude nothing wrong with hopping on a padded 377.
GET CLASS 357
321 Dustybin What are you talking about. The Class 357s will not be cascaded to EMR. c2c will not get rid of them. c2c are replacing the Class 387/3 with the Class 720/6 Aventra that is scheduled to enter service next year.
Class 360s will be cascaded from Greater Anglia to EMR to operate on St. Pancras-Kettering & Corby from December.
@@Andrewjg_89 electrostar in scr is noob
Then 357 is noob