She worked him over pretty damn well, imo. As a BJJ purple belt, one of the things I notice most about high level female BJJers tends to be their willingness to let stuff go when it's not working and just move on. It's not an absolute rule of course, but the stronger you are (and thus especially men), the more pronounced the tendency to "insist" on any sub or position you get close to. This is inefficient, but it often works due to sheer power, and therefore ends up staying as a bad habit. Smaller BJJers and women in particular often don't develop this habit because, if the technique and timing isn't perfect, they typically don't have the power to just "force" it. So they learn early that they have to "do it right," or it just doesn't get done. You can see that here. Erin abandons a LOT of subs, sweeps, and positions as soon as Shane got any meaningful structure to defend, and immediately and smoothly transitions to another position from which she can threaten him again with something else. If he meaningfully defends, she again abandons and attacks something else. The result was Shane was always behind, and she was never out of position or threatened in any way. For those of you who don't know what that's like to be on the receiving end of that, I can assure you it's exhausting. Large and powerful BJJers feel like gorillas, but the lightweights and small females feel like monkeys made of steel cables. Shane's experience here was like drowning, and the fact that she readily abandoned subs didn't lessen that sensation--from Shane's perspective, it just felt like nothing was safe . . . and he was right.
Michael Henry really like this explanation. I’ve never been able to describe it this way but I think it makes sense for sure. Often when I force things I get reversed or they find a way out in the process because I’ve committed my full weight.
Erin Herle Thanks, Erin. I thought a lot of your transitions here were really, really nice. And what jumped out at me most was that willingness to move on-the “gorilla” in me would’ve hung on trying to force some of the subs you let go, but you had the confidence that it would work out better in the long run to change targets and indeed it inevitably did. It was just a nice display on your part of everything BJJ does right.
Omfg... she laughed at your "posture" like "that's cute..." I'm with you bro I'm a striker and a bjj white belt too. Working on more grappling this year.
bubler0 he sure did, I'm not trying to pick on him...He does know his stuff This being said, we all know how a " catch and release" looks like This showcase how amazing jiu-jítsu, as an art form, is, when a woman with tons of technique can completely dominate a man bigger and stronger than her almost effortlessly My coach does the same to me ( I'm a blue belt) , and I feel amazed and frustrated at the same time, it's pretty cool 😎
@@vitoravila9908 Erine is 155lbs, Shane is under 145lbs, she is considerably bigger, besides most bjj specialist do not do well in the MMA, in modern MMA, striking and wrestling specialist do the best, because stictly bjj rules are lame where you have to get on the ground and roll which is the only mode of fighting. A good wrestler could nulify any bjj advantage on the ground by not being taken to the ground in the first place or getting up well enough so that the BJJ person wouldn't have the change to go to work, or pinning the weaker bjj guy and pound his face. I mean for takedowns or takedown defense Bjj is close to useless, other disciplines teach you how to defend against the take downs and does it better because they learn grappling from a standing position which is entirely different to grinding on the ground, which is why a wrestler can tire out a BJJ master in no time and ground and pound him into submission, if he's bad at wrestling himself. For too many times I seen Bjj black belts who will never make it in an MMA fight laying on the ground with their hands behind their neck because they are afraid of the stand up potion of the fight, if it's no rules boy that pussy bjj mat licker would be stomped and pounded into oblivion against anyone competent.
@@vitoravila9908 In order of importance, Wrestling comes first, striking next, Bjj comes last. YOu can have a blue belt in BJJ and still be a UFC champion, in fact of all the current UFC champions or best fighters, none of them are a bjj base. BJJ knowledge is usefull to deal with ground situations and certain rare technical submissions from the stand up but apart from that most bjj specialist are weak as fuck from what I see. Aldo relies heavily on his striking background not bjj, if you are good at wrestling you dictate where the fight take place, even guys competiting with original bjj base have to get their wrestling way up there, that's where most bjj specialist cannot make the transition to wrestling because they spend all their life on the back they did not develop the proper strength and athleticism and cardio to be good at wrestling , if you are good at striking you can own bjj pussy specialist by having good take down defense and mediocre bjj knowledge to know how to defend and get back on your feet, if you are good at wrestling and striking that's perfect combination, rudimentary bjj defense is all it's needed to do good in MMA. A bjj black belt specialist suck in MMA fights, it's proven. And your point on the weight, she competed in Bjj championships at 155lb, common sense would dictate she is heavier than 155lb when not competing. She is definitely larger maybe not stronger, but it's a large gap between black and white belt with bjj exclusive rule and with her being bigger, of course if he rolls on the ground and not try to get back up he will get tapped eventually. There's several situations where he could have easily disengage if this was an MMA fight especially with no GI on.
He clearly can't dictate the flow of the fight she would have something to say about that if he tried but 1:45 and 4:44 he blocked the move she was attempting to put him in that made her haft regroup do something else .
Erin actually submitted him at least 20 times but she is being nice & lets Shane think to solve the problems. Kudos for Shane to roll properly & not being spazzy.
No she didn't, she was genuinely tired after only rolling for 5 mins. Black belt men I've rolled with as a white belt didn't even break a sweat with me.
@@poopiepantsmcgee456 - yeah - even though she's a black belt - it sounds like she still loves the fact that she can just toy with people. It's an art form.
i think the end result remains the same. many black belts use more of their sense of touch than sight against lower belts, but it would be interesting nonetheless
It would be a nice video idea, but I don't think results would be much different. I had a coach who used to tell us to train with our eyes closed every now and then and it was surprisingly do-able.
Ive fought in bjj with my eyes closed, it is almost no different, everything that you could feel you could see aswell, you have to try it to understand
my main skill in grappling is just being stronger than my opponent so I manhandle them into a rear naked choke lmao. I’d get clapped by any real grappler lol
Me at the Beginning of the video: ehh not really interested in BJJ but I'll watch it because it's "fight tips" Me after the video: soooooooooo......... when is the soonest I can start training? 😂 Great video shane and Erin you guys really opened my eyes with this one!
This is why I love BJJ, the only martial art where it's really 90% about technique. Here we see the principle of it. Beating a person who is physically stronger than you. Respect to both
@@PS-fn5xv You have to take into consideration that men are pound for pound much stronger then women. Even if she were slightly bigger, most likely she is still physically weaker.
@@spikeyok8497 Yeah true. just pointing out that the disadvantage here is not aaaaaas but since she is bigger in total. she'd probably submit him just as often if she weighed 20lbs less.
Mad props to Shane for stepping in the arena with her. She's a black belt through and through and even passed up on some submissions and just kept flowing. Great video
I have an instructional on the Digitsu app that you can currently purchase. It details nearly all my moves on the knee slice. www.digitsu.com/erin-herle-flamingo-knee-slice-and-spider-trap-on-demand-p-249.html
Authentic Psychopath Rolling is basically waiting for one person to make a mistake and exploiting it so it is kinda just rolling around with two good people.
If you mean, you can't tell what she did to submit him, it can be hard to tell with the gis flopping around. It was mostly arm bars, meaning she pinched his upper arm between her legs and bent it backwards, using her pelvis or inner thigh as fulcrum... What's funny is, smaller black belts often become leg lockers, and she didn't do any of that... So he only had to worry about defending upper body stuff (which he did quite well for a white belt, imo) had she been a leg locker, every time he escaped an upper body attack, she would have been heel hooking him or something.
I have been training for two years and started Jiu jitsu at 67. One thing I noticed right away as my coach says "grips are essential". She went for grips immediately upon rolling. I also liked that she as a professional got a little "winded" after five minutes because I sure do after rolling for that amount of time or even less if I go as hard as I can. I have to remember to "breathe". I really like this series. She is very clear and easy to follow.
It'd be much more impressive if this was a strength based fight and the girl was stronger than him, but nope can't have that here, same old jiu jitsu shit again
Watching this video makes me understand how important grapple related styles are. You're constantly struggling with your enemy using your strength and brain. It really gives the idea of a real fight. Making you used to it. And keeping your heart normal( people who have been in brawls know how the heartbeat goes insane during a fight even for those who win the fight). And striking combined with grappling equals a very dangerous hand to hand combatant. That's why mma guys always kick ass. Cons is .. it looks dirty.
Noel Runega apparently you have no grappling experience or skills. she literally was giving him moves to defend which opened him up for other submissions.
@@mrlong4152 Go fuck yourself. He's a white belt, so it's not accurate to call him "high level." I don't need to be an expert grappler to say that, dickhead.
Shane, any plans to do this again no-gi? Or update this challenge with a gi to show your grappling progress? I really appreciate this channel and your devotion to fighting and explaining.
I could learn so much just by watching her pick him apart lol I guessed she would tap Shane 5xs, I figured since Erin was a blackbelt, Shane would not tap her at all.
This was great to see. There's still so many people out there that are convinced that strength will always beat Jiu Jitsu technique. Erin is clearly a very good black belt and its great to see her prove those people wrong. Would love to see more like this! :)
Yes strength can absolutely beat technique if you know how to apply it, this guy is smaller than the girl so the strength differential is not that big, he will still be stronger overall despite being smaller. The thing with strength and grip strength is you can tire out the person you are rolling with much quicker, so put her in with a bigger and more experience grappler and she would have no chance. I have seen female black belt getting trashed by Male white belts before because that white belt guy had some wrestling background, the female bjj black belt had no chance of getting positional advantage on him.
@Henrick Boot Most BJJ gyms offer a free class for your first time, so go check it out for yourself. You'll be amazed how smaller blue belts can wreck you easily.
Such familiar moments in this video. Ant the very beginning of the roll, Shane looks immediately confused and says "oh christ". That and an upper belt teaching a move and then not teaching the counter is so classic jiujitsu, I love it 😁
Biu Ji the gi has advantages and disadvantages. Means she still has submissions that Shane can’t do such as sleeve chokes I think she should have a judo gi and Shane should have his jiujitsu gi, because judo gis are easier to grip and are heavier and harder to roll in
@@Momsspaghetti777 Oh, no doubt that Shane would still have his, *ahem*, gi handed to him, but I was thinking that it'd make him a little more slippery, and remove a few points of control for Erin.
Biu Ji I’m just saying going without the gi isn’t necessarily an advantage or rather less of a disadvantage, because it takes away some of his weapons as well. It’s also harder to choke someone who’s wearing a gi using no gi chokes, the fabric creates extra space
as a white belt i can relate to this so much. you're constantly alternating between the feeling of "so uh what am I supposed to be doing here?" and "oh crap, here comes another submission"
Shane, you did well as a fellow white belt. I could tell your defense was improving as you rolled. You tried staying off your back, getting to your side, shrimping away, protecting your arms. BJJ black belts are going to have their way with anyone but an amazing purple, a solid brown, or another black belt. Thanks for sharing.
I feel your pain, bro. I have 8 years no-gi training for mma, but last year started at a bjj school to become more refined and they tore me a new one in the gi. "Even the higher ranked ladies". I love it though because I've become much better all around. 👍
I had a similar roll with bjj black belt female instructor for about 30 mins. At first she submitted several times so my only goal, back to basic, as a white belt, was survival. So when I focused on that, she wasn't able to submit me anymore. I think that's what's most important as a white belt is to mastery of survival. I wouldn't even focus on trying to submit black belt even though they are female. Just not possible because they seem to have tricks up their sleeves. They know how to effectively grab your lapels and leverage off that. For me I realized how tight she played against me but our positions all started only on the close guards and on the knees towards after. Also she tired the heck out of me before we sparred (nobody made to class). It may have been different if she didn't tire me out maybe. Well my point - full respect for any black belts in bjj whether they are male of female. Its a lot of struggle to get there 🙏
Playful sparring is the best way to learn. It seems they both had some fun, especially her at the 3 minut mark ... See if you can lick .. Imean spot it
I'm actually super surprised he how long he survives between each submission. She's probably being super nice and chill with him. I would LOVE to see her turn it up full throttle though lol. To me Ju Jitsu is magic. I'm never NOT blown away how this effect this discipline. I watch these expert practitioners and it's jaw dropping to see how easily they are able to control opponents with the smallest of moves with knowledge that's been attained over YEARS of training.
wood tortoise I’m 5’10” 230 white belt and I have girls in my gym half my size that can throw me around and turn me into a pretzel because of their experience. It will take months to start to get it but it will come
My daughter & I share this channel. Hence, the cute little dog. That was AWESOME. Never take a woman lightly in BJJ. We just don’t give Black Belts away...they are earned. If she wears a black belt she is a killer!!!🥋
Throughout my school life I was bullied. They mocked me because of my dark skin. And they use to beat me up. No one helped me. I made friends with some of my classmates thinking that they will help me. But when the bullies came they left me and joined the bullies to beat me up with them. Then I started learning karate. And I worked day and night to train myself. And then all my bullies avoided any conflict with me. Now I'm a black belt in karate and I know how it feels to be weak. But the truth is we are not we its just a state to mind. So I thought of teaching everyone martial arts and rise above bullies. And started a TH-cam channel last week. Always remember YOU ARE NOT WEAK. YOU ARE MORE THAN WHAT YOU THINK YOURSELF TO BE. NEVER EVER GIVE UP.
@@MrMcawsome12 My late grandmother never believed sumo was a real sport, she thought it was comedy entertainment with fat men in nappies pushing each other around, literally not even a sport but meant as comedy. My late grandfather didn't think much of boxing, he'd say "what do you want to watch two black people beating each other up for" but at least I think he recognised boxing as a legitimate sport in some way or another, though even at the highest level I don't think he recognised there being any skill involved!
boliussa Your grandparent sound like they were honest people I’m sorry to hear they’ve passed. I recently watched a sumo match and I thought it was amazing those guys are TOUGH. I’m realizing how much depth there is in fighting so many different styles out there you know. I chose boxing because I love how they move and counter. I plan on branching out eventually to get an appreciation for the fight game as a whole.
@@notme3686 Ok but you act like this is a feminist rally and you're courageously speaking some scientific facts. Yes he did do well because he's a man and she's a woman. He still got his ass kicked though. Why is your particular point relevant here? No one said otherwise. You're going out of your way to talk about mens physical advantages. Seems weird.
You usually do. From there people typically go for kimuras. In jiu jitsu you're in that position all the time. She gave it up, the majority of people don't and they try to force it from there. So she lingered for way less time than the average person does.
@@gamessportsandmore3371 Depends on the bjj person that you roll with and which rules you're using for the fight, I guess. Bjj is all about ground fighting anyway so I think they still have a slight advantage in these situations.
@@Jenjak well some of them get very careless when strikes are involved which is why I think BJJ guys should incorporate strikes in training at least because you can't get away with doing certain things. you don't have to submit them when you can bounce 4 elbows off their head in side control.
My favorite part was at 1:28 when she knew shane will roll and she just waited for him, almost 2 seconds. Can we get a brake down from both of you at the same time for this video?
TheTyler701 is the understanding behind an action that caught my attention. I can"t explain it well enough for other people, but I understand the feeling.
Roll with her every time you get a new belt
Gonna be a while till the next vid lol
@@dantdt4693 alie
MMA BBJ well how do you know how far Shane is from his blue belt lol
@@dantdt4693 yeah but evan after blue it would take years to get his next belt.
MMA BBJ yeah that’s I’m saying dude fucking hell lol
She worked him over pretty damn well, imo.
As a BJJ purple belt, one of the things I notice most about high level female BJJers tends to be their willingness to let stuff go when it's not working and just move on. It's not an absolute rule of course, but the stronger you are (and thus especially men), the more pronounced the tendency to "insist" on any sub or position you get close to. This is inefficient, but it often works due to sheer power, and therefore ends up staying as a bad habit.
Smaller BJJers and women in particular often don't develop this habit because, if the technique and timing isn't perfect, they typically don't have the power to just "force" it. So they learn early that they have to "do it right," or it just doesn't get done.
You can see that here. Erin abandons a LOT of subs, sweeps, and positions as soon as Shane got any meaningful structure to defend, and immediately and smoothly transitions to another position from which she can threaten him again with something else. If he meaningfully defends, she again abandons and attacks something else. The result was Shane was always behind, and she was never out of position or threatened in any way.
For those of you who don't know what that's like to be on the receiving end of that, I can assure you it's exhausting. Large and powerful BJJers feel like gorillas, but the lightweights and small females feel like monkeys made of steel cables. Shane's experience here was like drowning, and the fact that she readily abandoned subs didn't lessen that sensation--from Shane's perspective, it just felt like nothing was safe . . . and he was right.
Michael Henry really like this explanation. I’ve never been able to describe it this way but I think it makes sense for sure. Often when I force things I get reversed or they find a way out in the process because I’ve committed my full weight.
Erin Herle Thanks, Erin. I thought a lot of your transitions here were really, really nice. And what jumped out at me most was that willingness to move on-the “gorilla” in me would’ve hung on trying to force some of the subs you let go, but you had the confidence that it would work out better in the long run to change targets and indeed it inevitably did. It was just a nice display on your part of everything BJJ does right.
I've rolled with a couple of female BJJ players and I find their technique compared to guys with similar experience is far superior.
1000% accurate
Really well put.
Omfg... she laughed at your "posture" like "that's cute..." I'm with you bro I'm a striker and a bjj white belt too. Working on more grappling this year.
You and Shane should do a video together. That would be so awesome...
Dude imagine Icy Mike vs Shane Fazen on Street Beefs
Started both grappling and striking at the same time I've been doing them both for 8 months now
Heey it's mike!!
Can we get icy mike rolling with Shane? And then with Erin?
2:17 - "That's one..."
Well, it could be 4 (Triangle, Omoplata and Arm Triangle), but she was being nice to you....
Tbf he defended the submissions properly props to him
bubler0 he sure did, I'm not trying to pick on him...He does know his stuff
This being said, we all know how a " catch and release" looks like
This showcase how amazing jiu-jítsu, as an art form, is, when a woman with tons of technique can completely dominate a man bigger and stronger than her almost effortlessly
My coach does the same to me ( I'm a blue belt) , and I feel amazed and frustrated at the same time, it's pretty cool 😎
She would never get an omoplata from that position like you gottabe dumb to let her do that
@@vitoravila9908 Erine is 155lbs, Shane is under 145lbs, she is considerably bigger, besides most bjj specialist do not do well in the MMA, in modern MMA, striking and wrestling specialist do the best, because stictly bjj rules are lame where you have to get on the ground and roll which is the only mode of fighting. A good wrestler could nulify any bjj advantage on the ground by not being taken to the ground in the first place or getting up well enough so that the BJJ person wouldn't have the change to go to work, or pinning the weaker bjj guy and pound his face. I mean for takedowns or takedown defense Bjj is close to useless, other disciplines teach you how to defend against the take downs and does it better because they learn grappling from a standing position which is entirely different to grinding on the ground, which is why a wrestler can tire out a BJJ master in no time and ground and pound him into submission, if he's bad at wrestling himself. For too many times I seen Bjj black belts who will never make it in an MMA fight laying on the ground with their hands behind their neck because they are afraid of the stand up potion of the fight, if it's no rules boy that pussy bjj mat licker would be stomped and pounded into oblivion against anyone competent.
@@vitoravila9908 In order of importance, Wrestling comes first, striking next, Bjj comes last. YOu can have a blue belt in BJJ and still be a UFC champion, in fact of all the current UFC champions or best fighters, none of them are a bjj base. BJJ knowledge is usefull to deal with ground situations and certain rare technical submissions from the stand up but apart from that most bjj specialist are weak as fuck from what I see. Aldo relies heavily on his striking background not bjj, if you are good at wrestling you dictate where the fight take place, even guys competiting with original bjj base have to get their wrestling way up there, that's where most bjj specialist cannot make the transition to wrestling because they spend all their life on the back they did not develop the proper strength and athleticism and cardio to be good at wrestling , if you are good at striking you can own bjj pussy specialist by having good take down defense and mediocre bjj knowledge to know how to defend and get back on your feet, if you are good at wrestling and striking that's perfect combination, rudimentary bjj defense is all it's needed to do good in MMA. A bjj black belt specialist suck in MMA fights, it's proven. And your point on the weight, she competed in Bjj championships at 155lb, common sense would dictate she is heavier than 155lb when not competing. She is definitely larger maybe not stronger, but it's a large gap between black and white belt with bjj exclusive rule and with her being bigger, of course if he rolls on the ground and not try to get back up he will get tapped eventually. There's several situations where he could have easily disengage if this was an MMA fight especially with no GI on.
As a fellow white belt, great roll dude!
BJJ? I do karate
@@amartyapandit I have a white belt in Bjj but a yellow belt in TKD!!
@@martyrart13 oh yeah? Tell me what do you call your master in Taekwondo?
I call him master white but I think he just prefers for me to call him by his first name because I also work without outside of the gym
@@martyrart13 you call your master sabum son. Don't fool me. I know Taekwondo guys
Well at least you tried shane
He clearly can't dictate the flow of the fight she would have something to say about that if he tried but 1:45 and 4:44 he blocked the move she was attempting to put him in that made her haft regroup do something else .
Who's the cute girl in white?
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Erin actually submitted him at least 20 times but she is being nice & lets Shane think to solve the problems. Kudos for Shane to roll properly & not being spazzy.
No she didn't, she was genuinely tired after only rolling for 5 mins. Black belt men I've rolled with as a white belt didn't even break a sweat with me.
Honestly the highlight of this video is Erin's maniacal laughter 😆
Was good
@@poopiepantsmcgee456 - yeah - even though she's a black belt - it sounds like she still loves the fact that she can just toy with people. It's an art form.
2:52 my man shane just seemed satisfied to just stay in that position 😏
Do u wrestle with him?
i would be satisfied aswell
I had 9 and 0 in my head. Congrats Shane. You defended better than I thought. Congrats Erin. Not caught once, as expected. Win win.
You grappling against a blind foldeld black belt would be hilarious, DO IT
i think the end result remains the same. many black belts use more of their sense of touch than sight against lower belts, but it would be interesting nonetheless
@@danrhyev Just my thoughts.
It would be a nice video idea, but I don't think results would be much different. I had a coach who used to tell us to train with our eyes closed every now and then and it was surprisingly do-able.
Ive fought in bjj with my eyes closed, it is almost no different, everything that you could feel you could see aswell, you have to try it to understand
It won't help, but it would be funny.
my main skill in grappling is just being stronger than my opponent so I manhandle them into a rear naked choke lmao. I’d get clapped by any real grappler lol
so this is how martial arts couple make love
Well I wouldn't know😭😭😭
EW EW EWWWWWW !!!!!!!
Me at the Beginning of the video: ehh not really interested in BJJ but I'll watch it because it's "fight tips"
Me after the video: soooooooooo......... when is the soonest I can start training?
😂 Great video shane and Erin you guys really opened my eyes with this one!
Bjj is so much fun tho. No gi is a faster form of rolling aswell.
Imagine if you had gone and tried in person with that attitude, haha! It would be eye-opening times 1000, lol
too bad it didn't continue longer please make another
This is why I love BJJ, the only martial art where it's really 90% about technique. Here we see the principle of it. Beating a person who is physically stronger than you. Respect to both
well she also looked at least the same size if not bigger.
@@PS-fn5xv Shane is still a dude though. That's more significant than a 30 pound weight advantage.
@@PS-fn5xv shane has double the testosterone and muscle
@@PS-fn5xv You have to take into consideration that men are pound for pound much stronger then women. Even if she were slightly bigger, most likely she is still physically weaker.
@@spikeyok8497 Yeah true. just pointing out that the disadvantage here is not aaaaaas but since she is bigger in total. she'd probably submit him just as often if she weighed 20lbs less.
Mad props to Shane for stepping in the arena with her. She's a black belt through and through and even passed up on some submissions and just kept flowing. Great video
Can you ask her about her knee slide pass? It's a thing of beauty
She does it pretty awesome but that’s a basic move
I have an instructional on the Digitsu app that you can currently purchase. It details nearly all my moves on the knee slice.
www.digitsu.com/erin-herle-flamingo-knee-slice-and-spider-trap-on-demand-p-249.html
Youu can hear the jelly-ness of the camera woman increase with each submission! LOL
She probably her wife
Naveen Singh hehe this guy
Now let's see Shane do boxing or kickboxing with Erin
sick kaola she’s said she’s gonna keep it on the ground in the start.
Not really. Unless he has wicked takedown defence it can go to the ground very easy.
@@JackTheStrippa he has fought professionaly in muay Thai and is much stronger than her. He would destroy her. With like one kick.
@@axelpharo she would win in mma tho
@@axelpharo i can tell you have never hsd a fight with that stupid comment hahah tf
It looks like they're rolling around to my untrained eye. 😂
To be fair it is called rolling
To the trained eye it looks like him fighting for his life and her playing with him the whole time.
Yes and no lol
Authentic Psychopath Rolling is basically waiting for one person to make a mistake and exploiting it so it is kinda just rolling around with two good people.
If you mean, you can't tell what she did to submit him, it can be hard to tell with the gis flopping around. It was mostly arm bars, meaning she pinched his upper arm between her legs and bent it backwards, using her pelvis or inner thigh as fulcrum... What's funny is, smaller black belts often become leg lockers, and she didn't do any of that... So he only had to worry about defending upper body stuff (which he did quite well for a white belt, imo) had she been a leg locker, every time he escaped an upper body attack, she would have been heel hooking him or something.
"Fight tips for the underdog" I guess the tip here is to not fight an expert XD
I have been training for two years and started Jiu jitsu at 67. One thing I noticed right away as my coach says "grips are essential". She went for grips immediately upon rolling. I also liked
that she as a professional got a little "winded" after five minutes because I sure do after rolling for that amount of time or even less if I go as hard as I can. I have to remember to "breathe". I really
like this series. She is very clear and easy to follow.
How are things, Warren?
Any white belt who’s ever had the privilege to roll with a black belt, knows how difficult it is to survive... u did pretty good man. Keep it up
He's rolling against a girl. He'd get smoked worse by a blue belt 16 year old boy
@@bbc454nos you have no clue
It'd be much more impressive if this was a strength based fight and the girl was stronger than him, but nope can't have that here, same old jiu jitsu shit again
Watching this video makes me understand how important grapple related styles are. You're constantly struggling with your enemy using your strength and brain. It really gives the idea of a real fight. Making you used to it. And keeping your heart normal( people who have been in brawls know how the heartbeat goes insane during a fight even for those who win the fight). And striking combined with grappling equals a very dangerous hand to hand combatant. That's why mma guys always kick ass. Cons is .. it looks dirty.
I feel exhausted after watching that.
you people are over here leaving some stupid comments. this is beautiful to watch. this is some high-level grappling.
HIGH LEVEL? HAHA😂
Noel Runega apparently you have no grappling experience or skills. she literally was giving him moves to defend which opened him up for other submissions.
High level on one side 😁
sonic slaughter he defended a lot of moves but she was setting him up. if you don't know anything about grappling don't comment you just sound stupid.
@@mrlong4152 Go fuck yourself. He's a white belt, so it's not accurate to call him "high level." I don't need to be an expert grappler to say that, dickhead.
The best parts are the sweeps she uses, I dont know why but thats one of my favorite parts of bjj is sweeps
Matthew Mauldon same!
Just in case people are unaware, she had him in finishing positions multiple times and let go.
From what I'm reading in other comments is that she couldn't submit him so she moved on to another submission.
bullshit, she only submitted him 2 times and struggled hard, kinda embarrasing considering shes a black belt
@@b0zay Just because you have a black belt does not make you have super powers lol.
@@shellyfm560 a female not, but if u roll with a 200 lb 10th planet male, trust me it is basically superpowers 1v1
Yep, plenty of triangles etc.
Shane, any plans to do this again no-gi? Or update this challenge with a gi to show your grappling progress? I really appreciate this channel and your devotion to fighting and explaining.
3-0, I’ll be impressed if you can get one Shane good luck
Edit: hey look lmao, easy to guess when you’ve been in that situation
I could learn so much just by watching her pick him apart lol I guessed she would tap Shane 5xs, I figured since Erin was a blackbelt, Shane would not tap her at all.
Her Knee slice pass is friggin legit!
This was great to see. There's still so many people out there that are convinced that strength will always beat Jiu Jitsu technique. Erin is clearly a very good black belt and its great to see her prove those people wrong. Would love to see more like this! :)
Yes strength can absolutely beat technique if you know how to apply it, this guy is smaller than the girl so the strength differential is not that big, he will still be stronger overall despite being smaller. The thing with strength and grip strength is you can tire out the person you are rolling with much quicker, so put her in with a bigger and more experience grappler and she would have no chance. I have seen female black belt getting trashed by Male white belts before because that white belt guy had some wrestling background, the female bjj black belt had no chance of getting positional advantage on him.
@@paki7522You’re so dumb 💀
As someone who doesn't know anything about BJJ, this just looks like intense hugging. Who can hug the best?
#ExtremeCuddles
:)
@Henrick Boot Most BJJ gyms offer a free class for your first time, so go check it out for yourself. You'll be amazed how smaller blue belts can wreck you easily.
Struggle cuddles!
It can look like it you should give a try and realize how difficult it is. I bet you will submit 20 times faster than Shane on this video.
Struggle snuggles!
Such familiar moments in this video. Ant the very beginning of the roll, Shane looks immediately confused and says "oh christ". That and an upper belt teaching a move and then not teaching the counter is so classic jiujitsu, I love it 😁
For a slight handicap, how about Erin with gi, Shane without gi.
Biu Ji the gi has advantages and disadvantages. Means she still has submissions that Shane can’t do such as sleeve chokes
I think she should have a judo gi and Shane should have his jiujitsu gi, because judo gis are easier to grip and are heavier and harder to roll in
@@Momsspaghetti777 Oh, no doubt that Shane would still have his, *ahem*, gi handed to him, but I was thinking that it'd make him a little more slippery, and remove a few points of control for Erin.
Biu Ji I’m just saying going without the gi isn’t necessarily an advantage or rather less of a disadvantage, because it takes away some of his weapons as well. It’s also harder to choke someone who’s wearing a gi using no gi chokes, the fabric creates extra space
@@Momsspaghetti777 Agreed.
I think the handicap is Erin being a female and Shane being a Male
as a white belt i can relate to this so much. you're constantly alternating between the feeling of "so uh what am I supposed to be doing here?" and "oh crap, here comes another submission"
man she's humming. that's worse than whistlin while you work.
I absolutely love the fact that you're both having a ball.
I thought 5-0, I underestimated you Shane, good job!
Shane, you did well as a fellow white belt. I could tell your defense was improving as you rolled. You tried staying off your back, getting to your side, shrimping away, protecting your arms. BJJ black belts are going to have their way with anyone but an amazing purple, a solid brown, or another black belt. Thanks for sharing.
Lol I feel ya bro! I spent 19 years training striking, and I finally decided to train BJJ. As a white belt I know how it feels lol
i learn more from watching good practitioners roll than from several lessons...
I would say he did pretty damn great especially if she’s really trying. I’m a blue belt and my female black belt instructor dominated me
I feel your pain, bro. I have 8 years no-gi training for mma, but last year started at a bjj school to become more refined and they tore me a new one in the gi. "Even the higher ranked ladies". I love it though because I've become much better all around. 👍
Something sexy about a girl that can beat you up! LOL!
Trust me, it's not sexy. It friggin hurts.
It really isn't...but maybe it's your thing
When it's like this yes lol
Schmoe
This was great to watch! Erin is a beast!
I am a boxer but must say that bjj is probably the hardest sport to master.
I had a similar roll with bjj black belt female instructor for about 30 mins. At first she submitted several times so my only goal, back to basic, as a white belt, was survival. So when I focused on that, she wasn't able to submit me anymore. I think that's what's most important as a white belt is to mastery of survival. I wouldn't even focus on trying to submit black belt even though they are female. Just not possible because they seem to have tricks up their sleeves. They know how to effectively grab your lapels and leverage off that. For me I realized how tight she played against me but our positions all started only on the close guards and on the knees towards after. Also she tired the heck out of me before we sparred (nobody made to class). It may have been different if she didn't tire me out maybe. Well my point - full respect for any black belts in bjj whether they are male of female. Its a lot of struggle to get there 🙏
this really needed a soundtrack to cover shane's grunts of frustration
So nice to watch. Lovely transitions and technique
Playful sparring is the best way to learn. It seems they both had some fun, especially her at the 3 minut mark ... See if you can lick .. Imean spot it
I'm actually super surprised he how long he survives between each submission. She's probably being super nice and chill with him. I would LOVE to see her turn it up full throttle though lol. To me Ju Jitsu is magic. I'm never NOT blown away how this effect this discipline. I watch these expert practitioners and it's jaw dropping to see how easily they are able to control opponents with the smallest of moves with knowledge that's been attained over YEARS of training.
Shane had the time of his life😂
Spider guard against a white belt lol. Great video!
Im sure ur girl loved this one
Oh yeah
Awesome video again fighttips!!!
Im a 4'11 woman so I think if I did this it'd get pretty awkward, I'd be thrown around, and then I'd be embarrassed and quit
Instead I just watch
That's the perfect reason to do BJJ, the perfect martial art for being small and eventually you'd be able to slap everyone up 🤣🤙🏻
Definitely try BJJ, you'd be surprised at how fun it is and how effective it is for someone of any size.
Really? I didn't expect this much support in such a short period, definitely inspirational, I might try it out then lol
I say try it you have nothing to lose and everything to win.
It's a great feeling to get out of your comfort zone.
wood tortoise I’m 5’10” 230 white belt and I have girls in my gym half my size that can throw me around and turn me into a pretzel because of their experience. It will take months to start to get it but it will come
My daughter & I share this channel. Hence, the cute little dog. That was AWESOME. Never take a woman lightly in BJJ. We just don’t give Black Belts away...they are earned. If she wears a black belt she is a killer!!!🥋
Does your wife agree?...
I crack up at her sadistic laughs everytime she sweeps you 😆
my prediction is erin can submit shane 2-3 times within the time.
edit: yaay i was right
Shane’s small “oh christ” at the beginning of the fight makes me think he already knew he’d lose 😂
I'm surprised she didn't tap him more often, so many missed opportunities, but that was probably on purpose
KaîÇee Crane yeah she was playing around with him
Definitely on purpose.she let a loooot of stuff go just to keep it active and fun
nice vid but the lady is also obviously stronger; she just decided to let him roll a bit, ok mindset@@thatoneguywiththeabsolutec880
That went about as expected, great rolls!
now do a light sparring with her in kickboxing shane.
and try to roll again when you get a new belt
Its assumed he has some strength advantage. Then again she might be good at weighted chins and he might never do them.
Awesome stuff as always
Damn, need me a girl with an evil laugh like that...
Throughout my school life I was bullied. They mocked me because of my dark skin. And they use to beat me up. No one helped me. I made friends with some of my classmates thinking that they will help me. But when the bullies came they left me and joined the bullies to beat me up with them.
Then I started learning karate. And I worked day and night to train myself. And then all my bullies avoided any conflict with me.
Now I'm a black belt in karate and I know how it feels to be weak. But the truth is we are not we its just a state to mind. So I thought of teaching everyone martial arts and rise above bullies. And started a TH-cam channel last week. Always remember YOU ARE NOT WEAK. YOU ARE MORE THAN WHAT YOU THINK YOURSELF TO BE. NEVER EVER GIVE UP.
it literally looks like shes just playing with him early on
This video is just one long hug
Hi shane! I just wanted to say I’m a big fan BTW I had my first submission grappling match yesterday!
How did It go?
etienne guertin I got gold 😀
You're a Beast ! Good job!
etienne guertin Thanks! I train at soul fighters
Congrats buddy
As a boxer I never knew how much goes into this I have a new found respect for Bjj practitioners 👍🏽
+MrM so boxers are not eternally stupid then.
boliussa no man not all of us anyway 😂😂😂
@@MrMcawsome12 My late grandmother never believed sumo was a real sport, she thought it was comedy entertainment with fat men in nappies pushing each other around, literally not even a sport but meant as comedy. My late grandfather didn't think much of boxing, he'd say "what do you want to watch two black people beating each other up for" but at least I think he recognised boxing as a legitimate sport in some way or another, though even at the highest level I don't think he recognised there being any skill involved!
boliussa Your grandparent sound like they were honest people I’m sorry to hear they’ve passed. I recently watched a sumo match and I thought it was amazing those guys are TOUGH. I’m realizing how much depth there is in fighting so many different styles out there you know. I chose boxing because I love how they move and counter. I plan on branching out eventually to get an appreciation for the fight game as a whole.
Shane u r absolutely phenomenal 🙏🤘👍
can we please acknowledge how slick that triangle setup was at the beginning?
Belts are great to hold your pants up
Actually gi belts just hold your lapels together
Nice Karate Kid reference.
They dont hold your pants up at all, dummy
@@TheRosyCodex r/woosh
@@christianrivera6296 its actually a bruce lee quote but whatever
I think a blindfolded black belt would still do very well
He doesn't seem like a white belt. I think he is more skilled. He gave her a hard roll.
No he didn't she was playing
No, its a fair white belt techniques against playful black belt
The helplessness🤣 shes so smooth
Cobrinha black belt. No wonder you got whooped lol I go there.
for a white belt he did very well.
You did well considering. Reckon you could have danced to the beat of my tapping if I was trying that!
Been waiting for this roll😉
*i like it* 21
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Mag ich
Beste Grüße.
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The white belt did pretty good I was expecting him to get tapped way more he did a good job of fending her off as long as he could.
Shane u do well vs a black belt
@@notme3686 Ok but you act like this is a feminist rally and you're courageously speaking some scientific facts. Yes he did do well because he's a man and she's a woman. He still got his ass kicked though. Why is your particular point relevant here? No one said otherwise. You're going out of your way to talk about mens physical advantages. Seems weird.
@@flipgsp
Seems weird that you don't understand why a male white belt did so well against a female black belt.
@@notme3686 Seems weird that you apparently didn't read a fucking word I wrote. The OP might not know, but I very clearly know.
2:51 she really lingered in that position 😆 😂
You usually do. From there people typically go for kimuras. In jiu jitsu you're in that position all the time. She gave it up, the majority of people don't and they try to force it from there. So she lingered for way less time than the average person does.
Try sambo its a lot of fun too ^^
I wonder how i would do having trained combat sambo for a few years now.
@@gamessportsandmore3371 Depends on the bjj person that you roll with and which rules you're using for the fight, I guess. Bjj is all about ground fighting anyway so I think they still have a slight advantage in these situations.
@@gamessportsandmore3371 Inevitable, yeah it feels like that most of the time for me x) I learned to accept death against ground fighters.
@@Jenjak well some of them get very careless when strikes are involved which is why I think BJJ guys should incorporate strikes in training at least because you can't get away with doing certain things. you don't have to submit them when you can bounce 4 elbows off their head in side control.
Great job Shane! Not bad for a white belt. Keep up the great work.
My favorite part was at 1:28 when she knew shane will roll and she just waited for him, almost 2 seconds. Can we get a brake down from both of you at the same time for this video?
its an omoplata.. 90% youll just sweep instead of submit from there.. if he doesnt roll he has to tap so rolling over>getting tapped
TrolyRage I get the feeling, that you missed my point. But ok.
Leo Nardo what point? He answered your “she knew Shane will roll”
TheTyler701 is the understanding behind an action that caught my attention. I can"t explain it well enough for other people, but I understand the feeling.
Not what happened, but what happened. Makes sense?
Lol them chuckles. It bothers a man to beat him and laugh / talk to him while it's happening.
Playing cat and mouse as usual
After the first tap "That's one." It was actually the third but the first two she decided to let you go.
I'm ITF Taekwondo and Muay Thai all the way. Grappling is something I need yet just can't get my head around.
Well hope you never have to grapple in a self defense situation.
Erin is a cobrinha black belt, that's a rarity within the jiujitsu community, I know because I'm under cobrinha myself.
Im still waiting on the “whats that thing poking me”
She was holding back too. She was smiling the entire time
I wonder what shanes wife thought of this?😂
This was great to watch, she seems like a great professor. Osssssss