why do the united fans act like 2 things can’t be right at the same time. Hojlund does not get service but he also doesn’t contribute anything outside of that. Bruno when he gets it right, helps us a lot, but it takes him decades to get one thing right.
Agreed mate. People think football takes can’t be both true. It’s at a point with Rasmus that we should be looking for loan moves for him next year. He’s clearly not ready.
Amorim is clearly setting up not to lose and theres just enough there to pinch the odd win if opponents are lulled into thinking they don’t have to worry about defending.
All other teams pass and move, while united players pass and stand in the same spot. that’s why we can’t progress the ball upfield.. that’s basic football
It's absolutely ridiculous As much as Bruno is clearly is wasteful, there's barely a single player ever making a good run or trying to get into space for him to try and get a pass to
@@ihsaanrawat2583Amad and Garnacho do make runs Bruno never sees them.. And you do realize players will tend not to make a run if they believe a player is less likely to make a pass.. If you're playing with someone like KDB you will instinctively make a run cause you know he'll instinctively make a pass. Bruno doesn't offer that he's never looking to make that through pass.
Yes the players aren’t great, but Surely Amorim should be getting more out of them or can he simply not get them to do what he wants? It looks like he’s settling to not lose games and a win is a bonus, but not expected.
Licha has lowkey been brilliant the past couple of weeks, how does he have more goals and assists than Rasmus this season in the league, in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king, Zirkzee needs to start next game
@@trademark23 even Weghorst and Ighalo were better. I’ve never seen a striker so bad at controlling and passing a football. All this “he gets no service” is a load of bollocks. Hojlund can’t even bring his team mates into the game to try and give him service. And you never seen him make the right runs or put himself in a position to score. He’s not at this level, nowhere near and we will have to take yet another loss on a player that cost us a fortune.
That was a horrific match. It was like going to the dentist and getting a root canal. Both teams were abysmal. We just happened to get a lucky one and they didn’t. I’m glad we won, but Fulham is not what I call a UCL stalwart. Fulham is a mid-table average team. That’s exactly what United is. A bang average mid-table Europa League club. Lucky win.
Since Goldbridge had Hojlund on Utd Stand, he won't say anything bad about him and awful performances. Must be in his phone contacts. Hojlund is absolutely crap
What do you see in Hojlund other than the fact your his friend. He’s missed multiple big chances and couldn’t create for himself to save his life like an elite forward.
Rasmus cost 72mm more than Isak, almost as much as Haaland. Yet he was awful today. Didn’t contribute a thing. All he ever did was wrestle the defenders and lose the ball. Just not good enough.
People keeps saying Hojlund didn’t get service. He lost almost every possession passed to him. His first touch is really bad and his body is always on the wrong side of the ball so he couldn’t shield off the defender.
I am a bit tired of hearing about no service for the front, if you watched Man City v Chelsea Haaland didn't get any service either but then he changed and held the ball up alot which made them win the game and he created his own chances. Our strikers are just not good enough.
Mark needs to stop divert the blame away from Rasmus. Yes I think hes got loads of potential, but hes not performing for ages. Love rasmus but he needs to improve❤
How about we talk about the obvious? Bruno controls the tempo of the game, and he is SHAMBLES. he slows the game, he cannot pass correctly... he plays Hollywood passes like a scrub... he losses the ball a lot... how on earth do you expect Hojlund to score if your Midfield is shait mate? Stop being player FC.. and talk about the obvious... stop protecting Bruno he is garbage and one of the main reasons why United cannot go higher in the table.... This game today shows you how bad he is, yet everyone blames Hujland and the others.... it's insane how he is protected by the fans just like how Rashford was protected for YEARS till they finally realized that he is part of the issue for being inconsistent and not good enough.
@@zorashkihow do expect him to find Hojlund when he never makes runs in behind, and acts like a target man without any target man ability? No one makes runs in the squad. He’s the only one other than Amad who actually shows for the ball and wants it at their feet. Everyone else seems to hide.
Dalot playing on the left is being harshly rated. He is a right sided player clearly. Cut him some slack for being a utility player. Should we have malacia and shaw back, dalot will compete with mazraoui for the right and be the player we knew last season. Give him a break please rather than just calling him out for playing left. We are better than that… common guys. We want the best for utd
@@RoshanHassamal not saying you’re wrong but he played on the left the entirety of his loan at Milan and almost half his time at United. He’s almost played more on the left than the right in his whole career.
@ not at Utd. He is clearly being played out of position. Who else at Utd would have played in this position. Just a red flag for the glazers. We lack a left sided players since 1.5 years now, and no balance to the team, which directly affects our balance. Poor Amorim having to deal with this. Imagine if we had a left sided players, mazraoui would have more breaks and be fresher
@@RoshanHassamal I agree, but we’ve also seen very poor performances when he’s on the right. Better on the right but ultimately a fairy inconsistent player with questionable decision making even when on the right.
I understand what Mark means when he says he wants us to start playing a better brand of football, a more distinctive Amorim style of football but the manager himself says that it’s gonna take time because they don’t have enough time on the training pitch to build up that understanding and team chemistry. The only time we can expect to see a proper Amorim style of football is next season after he’s had a full preseason and summer transfer window. Having said that, I am more than willing to give him this season to just do the best he can do with what his got, we all should be a lot more patient. Next season is when we can truly judge him as a manager and his style of play
I wish Ruud stayed to show Rasmus proper runs in the box. How to pull defenders and then check back for a cut back. Far post and near post runs etc. inside the box he's very easy to defend.
Agreed. Amorim did a Moyes and cleared out all the well-established coaches - an arrogant thing to do in the middle of the season. He should have accepted Ruud van Nistelrooy's offer and kept him on to provide continuity . . .
@@jamesneilsongrahamloveinth1301You're one of those people who would be shouting "Amorim out, appoint Ruud." Amorim and INEOS decided not to keep Ruud because of this reason, when the going gets tough the players and fans would have quickly turned on Amorim and started pushing for Ruud who may be just another Ole..and about the coaches, have you not been watching Man UTD?? Are you seriously saying we had good coaches?? These players are so underdeveloped Tactically because of the coaches we had and Ten Hag miserably failed to implement his tactics because he left his coaches at Ajax and went with our mediocre coaches please don't compare the situation with Moyes that's madness, Ferguson had a Title winning Staff, the Moyes staff that replaced them are probably the same people Jose, Van Gaal, Ole and Ten Hag used.
What football do you watch, no manager teaches a number 9 how to be a Legendary number 9 it's either you have it or not and Hojlund simply doesn't have it.
United fans think we’re competing for the league.. in reality we are a Team learning to win and play good football. Fulham are better than us at the moment, this is a great win.
Sir Jim has shown he has ZERO desire to improve United in a footballing sense but ONLY in a financial sense that will be good for him and the Glazers. Talk about the TRAITOR from within. And to think some United "fans" supported him and STILL do.
Yeah, he needs to get out. He can take his £300m back, undo the £50m Carrington upgrade, stop the stadium project, put back the debt he's paid down, take Blanc, Berrada, Wilcox and Amorim with him, and sell his shares back to the Glazers, then we can go back to how we were and be happy again.
Mark youre losing credibility with Rasmus you cant keep saying its not his fault, i liked him at the start but he is abysmal time to face it 😂 hes a scrub i try to not dislike any of our players but he is like a empty shirt running round.
Rasmus hojlund is terrible the worst striker in the premier league i know the whole team needs to look at themselves but he is the worst Man Utd quality of player by far even Antony offers more
Agree the ball is moving too slow and a graveyard shift but Rasmus hold up play is terrible u can't teach somebody to control the football at this stage including movements as a striker
Out of position?? Doesn't he play the same role in Portugal? But when he comes to Man UTD he can't play that position?? Pedri, Bellingham, Gundogan Top Midfielders create and control the game, Midfielders can't do just one job.
@@Chippychips8-2 he plays left of a 3 man midfield, Portugal don’t play with a number 10. He drifts towards the left side of the three but still plays from deep. Bruno is more suited playing deeper, he just had a bad game but when you have donkeys like trashmus who can’t even hold a fart, let alone a football, who can you even pass to. Amad looked tired and Garnacho is garbage.
The thing to celebrate is not the win but our away fans, they sang from start to finish, they were magnificent. They are the motivation. They are the inspiration. They are the club.
Anyone remember how Van Gaal tried to implement his 3-5-2 system a decade ago? That battering from Leicester put him in a panic and he switched to a back 4 again. That was the beginning of the end. Since then managers have tried to play to what the players can do and not the vision they had. Could be probably had solid foundations if LVG would’ve stuck to his guns
@@1972dsrai But Mark blames ineos, like they forced Amorim to come and he didn’t know what he was stepping into.🤷🏻♂️ If I’m suffering from manager fatigue god knows how the players feel.😂
To be honest, a win is a win. I myself have two and a half seasons put away for this rebuild, then I want to see us compete for the league. Simple as that.
Agreed but if you have half decent attacking full backs it would be a start. Chelsea had James and chillwell who going forward are miles better than what we have. But they haven’t always been or are now wingbacks
@@sutters7251They aren't moving forward because they are instructed not to. The only one allowed to move forward by Amorim is Lisandro Martinez. I don't know how you don't see that
We don't want homegrown players to be sold, we want best players in market, we want to reach the top, we want to play dominating football, everything sometimes doesn't go together BRO! We need to find the right balance,.
The problem with subbing Bruno is that we don't have another playmaker. It takes a moment of brilliance for him to turn a game around. I will take this win anyday.
I genuinely felt like there was some old United spirit in moments in that game. The younger lads really stepped up and raised the bar for the players that don’t put 100%
I really really think you're clutching at make believe straws and believing in fairies and goblins etc. nothing is real. There are NO shoots of hope. There's nothing to cling too. All IS LOST. Utd are Ushited. Manure ushited. You're delusional. Seeing things that aren't there.
I think zirkzee's socks are made of concrete cus he always looks like finding it hard to run plus if he does manage to have a shot. He never seems to be able to put his laces through it and just passes his shots. other than that. He's alright.
-we might have 99 problems, but beating Fulham away is not one. -We grabbed a win we didn’t deserved to win . -The game changed when Collyer came on. -5 days left until the end of January, SJR and his team visibly seeing the major weak positions of the Amorim system and they don’t want to act like they care.
Watching Rasmus play can be frustrating-so many misplaced passes, always out of position, and he goes down so easily that referees have stopped paying attention to his antics. As for Mark's complaints about service, there's no point in providing it when he does absolutely nothing with it. The wingers, wingbacks, and even defenders are left with no choice but to take shots from distance or pass the ball backward!
As someone who had serious issues with Bruno under ETH, to the point i wanted him turned into a rotational player; i've really loved this recent version of Bruno playing as Amorim's Left 10... Lets be realistic with ourselves, Garnacho is almost definitely leaving before the window runs out, so why is he still playing?; Anytime Bruno has been played in the Center-Mid. under Amorim, he has always looked like someone lost in a forest with nothing to guide them. Just putting it out there, i think Mainoo would also do way better as a 10, he's a slowish Midfield player that is way better attacking than defending, that is literally a 10; and he too looks lost when he's put in this Center-Mid. setup.
Eriksen was also good at the no.10 against Rangers with Bruno at the 8. They had good Chemistry. That was the only game recently which we created so many chances that we actually wasted a lot of them.
Happy about the win....but Mounting club debt, Rotting Stadium, 13th on the epl table Over paid players who have sacked many managers Liverpool are about to win their 20th league title The Glazers have sucked this club dry and they are still here. We can't buy players It ain't looking good. I think Ruben is defeated by the players but more importantly the owners and hierarchy.
@kennyezevillo741 Why should he change it? Playing 3 at the back is fundamental to how he wants to play. When he gets the wingbacks and attackers in, this team will be off to the races. Give the guy a chance ffs.
@@livewireredb.9953 Which wingbacks? Patrick Dorgu from a struggling Lecce side? Who on the right? Amad? Mazraoui? What signs have you seen of ANYTHING working with this system?
@@kennyezevillo741 IMAGINE asking a manager to change his formation hes played all his life very low IQ take. Shouldnt have brought him in then. Whats 4 at the back gonna do? It has sacked more managers than won trophies.
@@kennyezevillo741I mean he’s won everywhere else he’s been with it. Top of the CL when he left Sporting. Chelsea won the league and CL with it, City operate in a 3 back when in possession.
Once we cross 40 points, then we are at the point where football is important. Until then NO! We need to avoid relegation, try to get in the top half of the table
I’m sorry Mark when are you going to admit that Rasmus isn’t good enough for United? Perhaps because you did an interview with him you aren’t willing to say anything bad about him but there is no denying he hasn’t got it, needs to go.
Dear Man United fans, have you heard Amorim's comments on Rashford? What is your take on it? At this point, I personally don't like it when he always feeds the media to say something about Manchester United. There's enough noise about our club in the media. It's just unnecessary, in my opinion.
We all know and acknowledge that Amorim cannot get this lot of players to play his style. I’m imagining that he is shifting his style of play to get through the season with some results, and once we can get to the summer, the board will need to back him and get rid of dead wood. If the board does not do that, we will go through yet another manager, and the spiral will continue. INEOS/Glazers need to do their jobs.
What if he gets stuck in the same cycle as ten hag? We never saw his style of play, either due to injuries or unsuitable players or other excuses. What if the same happens to Amorim?
If the dabate is points vs performance I will take the points. I am old enough to remember the 1990s. Forget Goldbridge, for those of you who think our treble was dominant, it was not. We won eight of our league games in the last minute, Schmeichel won us another 12 points that year. To give context, in early December we had already lost to Sheffield Wednesday, we drew against Charlton, but we ground a lot of results out that year. Performance is one thing, pounts is another thing. Relegation is not avoided at all right now. We need to keep grinding the results out
Without winning theres no playing well, after a defeat we forget everything. So, yes, First winning, then playing well and if that happens next year, well done Manchester United!
That game was screaming for a false 9 to drop in, hold the ball up, and release a speedy winger to run in behind. The Harry Kane role in the Kane -Son partnership. Zirkzee can at least do that. I don't understand why Amorim watched the attack struggle to do anything for a full 45 and sent Hojlund out to do the exact same thing he did in the first half.
We have the worst centre forward in the Premier league bar Anthony has to be the one of the worst signings weve ever made cant hold up the ball woeful touch runs around like a headless chicken absolutely useless should be sold in the summer
Yes, we need creative players but, even more than that, we need creative coaching - the kind of coaching that liberates the players (particularly backs and mid-field payers) to be courageous and spontaneous. This can be taught . . .
@@jamesneilsongrahamloveinth1301No it can't, we need creative players. Pep didn't coach players to be creative, he bought De Bruyne to be creative. I'm surprised with all the managers we've sacked you still think these players are coachable.
I think the rest of the season has nothing to do with style of play, it has to do with points. We already know the majority of these players aren't staying long term nor can they play Amorim's system, so let's just be happy with the points from here until we bring some players in.
They really should have brought Amorim in last summer. That way he would have a few signings of his own and he would have a pre season with the players. Bringing him in mid way through the season and not supporting him in Jan is a terrible plan. It puts more pressure on Amorim and leads to the media being right on his back. I know hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I'm just worried about the INEOS regime.
Why we as football fans judge a striker for his "HOLD UP PLAY". I surely know it's 1 aspect, but shouldn't be more concerned about the tap-ins we provide for our strikers (or lack there of)
So Goldbridge is fed up of the back 5 already? Lol we need an attacking left back that's all, we weren't great but we take the win. Mark is turning on Ruben already
Højlund omg. We need a new striker. We have a striker We cant make a pass to. Atm top10 over worst signings at man Utd. Hope he improve, but god damn he has been terrible. No Ball control. Not dangerous for a defender in anyway. We need a striker who can paticipate in the build up Play. There is a lot better Championship strikers out there than Rasmus
We're awful so any win is a cause for celebration. I think it's time we had a serious conversation about the likes of Mainoo and Holjund. Bags of potential and really came through for us at crucial times last season but its clear the manager needs a very specific profile for his system. If we can't be a club that's willing to take loses both on the pitch and off it for long term success then we're doomed.
So if Bruno isn't making things happen but we're worse without him then he needs replacing. At Sporting, Amorim had two 10s running at people. Bruno's style is hit and run, hide then pop up. We need someone who gets the ball with chest and powers past people to help Amad. If we can only afford one player it should be a 10 with pace and dribbling ability.
bruno is way overhyped. hes been a big part of the worst united side in yrs and a bit of ga gets him reprieve all the time. he's not good enough and we need better all round. he would have been bench food under SAF
why do the united fans act like 2 things can’t be right at the same time. Hojlund does not get service but he also doesn’t contribute anything outside of that. Bruno when he gets it right, helps us a lot, but it takes him decades to get one thing right.
You are absolutely spot on, he can't keep at all
Got a result against one of the teams in league who are doing better than us got to take the dub
Kind of hard give service to someone who can’t even take a first touch without giving it back to the opposition
Spot on
Agreed mate. People think football takes can’t be both true. It’s at a point with Rasmus that we should be looking for loan moves for him next year. He’s clearly not ready.
Collyer in an unsung hero after that clearance!
not really everyone is talking aboutj it haha
Who is bullshitting who here? I'll take any win any time. With this team, we are lucky to win any game
Amorim is clearly setting up not to lose and theres just enough there to pinch the odd win if opponents are lulled into thinking they don’t have to worry about defending.
All other teams pass and move, while united players pass and stand in the same spot. that’s why we can’t progress the ball upfield.. that’s basic football
It's absolutely ridiculous
As much as Bruno is clearly is wasteful, there's barely a single player ever making a good run or trying to get into space for him to try and get a pass to
They know to pass and move weve been told that since we were kids, for some reason they get paid and we go to work in the morning
Right? How are they not noticing that? And when opponents make a pass and move they don’t follow the player moving to the empty space…
@@ihsaanrawat2583Amad and Garnacho do make runs Bruno never sees them.. And you do realize players will tend not to make a run if they believe a player is less likely to make a pass.. If you're playing with someone like KDB you will instinctively make a run cause you know he'll instinctively make a pass. Bruno doesn't offer that he's never looking to make that through pass.
Yes the players aren’t great, but Surely Amorim should be getting more out of them or can he simply not get them to do what he wants? It looks like he’s settling to not lose games and a win is a bonus, but not expected.
Those first touches by Rasmus are reminding us of Lukaku’s first like damn what was that losing the ball time and time again
Na Lukaku was way better for us mate
Don't insult Lukaku please
nah lukaku was light yrs ahead of this donkey. at least lukaku can hold the ball up
Rasmus has a long way to go before he gets near Lukaku's level.
To be fair when you get so few touches you are more likely to snatch at them
Licha has lowkey been brilliant the past couple of weeks, how does he have more goals and assists than Rasmus this season in the league, in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king, Zirkzee needs to start next game
Can't even lie it's insane how a CB puts in a better cross into the box than out attacking players
He’s definitely a lot better going forwards than he is at defending.
@@1972dsraican’t give a very vivid player any credit only backhanded compliments! You must be related to Goldbridge?
It's not hard to have more goals than Rasmus in the EPL. Worst striker I have seen in a United kit, and to consider the fee we paid it's shocking.
@@trademark23 even Weghorst and Ighalo were better. I’ve never seen a striker so bad at controlling and passing a football. All this “he gets no service” is a load of bollocks.
Hojlund can’t even bring his team mates into the game to try and give him service. And you never seen him make the right runs or put himself in a position to score.
He’s not at this level, nowhere near and we will have to take yet another loss on a player that cost us a fortune.
This game was all about the Ratcliffe chants at the end, worth the watch alone! 😂
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What were the words man? I was listening to all the songs, but it were just after Glazers Out ... didn't catch the words!
What were it?
That was a horrific match. It was like going to the dentist and getting a root canal. Both teams were abysmal. We just happened to get a lucky one and they didn’t. I’m glad we won, but Fulham is not what I call a UCL stalwart. Fulham is a mid-table average team. That’s exactly what United is. A bang average mid-table Europa League club. Lucky win.
Maybe its a new tactic by Amorim by lulling the opposition into complacency.
Manchester United still won
Just..
Since Goldbridge had Hojlund on Utd Stand, he won't say anything bad about him and awful performances. Must be in his phone contacts. Hojlund is absolutely crap
Hojlund is the worst "striker" I have seen in a United kit.
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@@trademark23 With the worst Manager since Fergie
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I prefer zirkzee personslly but have u not watched the passed 5 videos you spaas
I actually can't believe we've won 4 of our last 5 games. It doesn't feel like it at all. Mad stuff.
We're crap beyond belief.
Wait they did?
What do you see in Hojlund other than the fact your his friend. He’s missed multiple big chances and couldn’t create for himself to save his life like an elite forward.
Did you notice R. Højlund not running or pressing the midfield? Check it out. This is not what Amorim wants. Portuguese point of view
Rasmus cost 72mm more than Isak, almost as much as Haaland. Yet he was awful today. Didn’t contribute a thing. All he ever did was wrestle the defenders and lose the ball. Just not good enough.
Fact, at this point I'd keep Antony over Hojlund. I would say recruitment has become a joke but it's just not funny.
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Rasmus cost 72m more than Isak? 😂
People keeps saying Hojlund didn’t get service. He lost almost every possession passed to him. His first touch is really bad and his body is always on the wrong side of the ball so he couldn’t shield off the defender.
I am a bit tired of hearing about no service for the front, if you watched Man City v Chelsea Haaland didn't get any service either but then he changed and held the ball up alot which made them win the game and he created his own chances. Our strikers are just not good enough.
Halaand is getting service from the centre and wing
Martinez, a CB, is better than Rasmus at scoring goals.
Tbf it was a lucky deflection.
@@mrnobodyzI mean would Rasmus have even attempted a shot there?
And Rasmus is probably better as a CB. Maybe they should swap.
They have the same amount of games and goals in the PL this season lmao
@@PatrickRoy30 That was my first thought during the game but it’s not fair to play him as our main striker.
Onana always rooted to the spot. Thank god for that young kid
Mark needs to stop divert the blame away from Rasmus. Yes I think hes got loads of potential, but hes not performing for ages. Love rasmus but he needs to improve❤
Mythical potential. He’s not good enough
@watts4433 well said. He's miles away.
@@watts4433 he ain't the best but he is not getting any service
hes awful mate. worst striker in the prem
@@watts4433exactly
Holjund can score if Martinez can score, but not being able to hold a ball at premier league level is blasphemy
How about we talk about the obvious? Bruno controls the tempo of the game, and he is SHAMBLES. he slows the game, he cannot pass correctly... he plays Hollywood passes like a scrub... he losses the ball a lot... how on earth do you expect Hojlund to score if your Midfield is shait mate? Stop being player FC.. and talk about the obvious... stop protecting Bruno he is garbage and one of the main reasons why United cannot go higher in the table.... This game today shows you how bad he is, yet everyone blames Hujland and the others.... it's insane how he is protected by the fans just like how Rashford was protected for YEARS till they finally realized that he is part of the issue for being inconsistent and not good enough.
@@zorashkihow do expect him to find Hojlund when he never makes runs in behind, and acts like a target man without any target man ability? No one makes runs in the squad. He’s the only one other than Amad who actually shows for the ball and wants it at their feet. Everyone else seems to hide.
Dalot playing on the left is being harshly rated. He is a right sided player clearly. Cut him some slack for being a utility player. Should we have malacia and shaw back, dalot will compete with mazraoui for the right and be the player we knew last season. Give him a break please rather than just calling him out for playing left. We are better than that… common guys. We want the best for utd
@@RoshanHassamal not saying you’re wrong but he played on the left the entirety of his loan at Milan and almost half his time at United. He’s almost played more on the left than the right in his whole career.
@ not at Utd. He is clearly being played out of position. Who else at Utd would have played in this position. Just a red flag for the glazers. We lack a left sided players since 1.5 years now, and no balance to the team, which directly affects our balance. Poor Amorim having to deal with this. Imagine if we had a left sided players, mazraoui would have more breaks and be fresher
@@RoshanHassamal I agree, but we’ve also seen very poor performances when he’s on the right. Better on the right but ultimately a fairy inconsistent player with questionable decision making even when on the right.
@ I blame the glazers when I see Dalot on the left…. Let’s not lose focus where the real problem is
@@RoshanHassamal totally agree, the whole squad is a mess
I understand what Mark means when he says he wants us to start playing a better brand of football, a more distinctive Amorim style of football but the manager himself says that it’s gonna take time because they don’t have enough time on the training pitch to build up that understanding and team chemistry. The only time we can expect to see a proper Amorim style of football is next season after he’s had a full preseason and summer transfer window. Having said that, I am more than willing to give him this season to just do the best he can do with what his got, we all should be a lot more patient. Next season is when we can truly judge him as a manager and his style of play
I wish Ruud stayed to show Rasmus proper runs in the box. How to pull defenders and then check back for a cut back. Far post and near post runs etc. inside the box he's very easy to defend.
Agreed. Amorim did a Moyes and cleared out all the well-established coaches - an arrogant thing to do in the middle of the season. He should have accepted Ruud van Nistelrooy's offer and kept him on to provide continuity . . .
there's no helping this donkey. hes not good enough
@@jamesneilsongrahamloveinth1301You're one of those people who would be shouting "Amorim out, appoint Ruud."
Amorim and INEOS decided not to keep Ruud because of this reason, when the going gets tough the players and fans would have quickly turned on Amorim and started pushing for Ruud who may be just another Ole..and about the coaches, have you not been watching Man UTD??
Are you seriously saying we had good coaches?? These players are so underdeveloped Tactically because of the coaches we had and Ten Hag miserably failed to implement his tactics because he left his coaches at Ajax and went with our mediocre coaches please don't compare the situation with Moyes that's madness, Ferguson had a Title winning Staff, the Moyes staff that replaced them are probably the same people Jose, Van Gaal, Ole and Ten Hag used.
What football do you watch, no manager teaches a number 9 how to be a Legendary number 9 it's either you have it or not and Hojlund simply doesn't have it.
Thats what he needs tbf. Someone to learn from in training.
We must accept that this team won't get better until Amorim gets the players he needs. I don't understand why managers get appointed without a plan
Let’s not pretend this isn’t a great win Fulham are currently a better team than us or we can just keep being deluded..on to the next 🙌🏾
United fans think we’re competing for the league.. in reality we are a
Team learning to win and play good football. Fulham are better than us at the moment, this is a great win.
Fulham is a really bad team.
Win is a win
One interview turn him in an idiot😂😂😂..Rasmus was awful to watch but he will not say that he will say it’s because he is getting no service
Rasmus was beyond shite tonight, has been for a few weeks now. It's looking very worrying for him.
He was never worth what we paid, terrible signing.
Sir Jim has shown he has ZERO desire to improve United in a footballing sense but ONLY in a financial sense that will be good for him and the Glazers.
Talk about the TRAITOR from within. And to think some United "fans" supported him and STILL do.
Yeah, he needs to get out. He can take his £300m back, undo the £50m Carrington upgrade, stop the stadium project, put back the debt he's paid down, take Blanc, Berrada, Wilcox and Amorim with him, and sell his shares back to the Glazers, then we can go back to how we were and be happy again.
🤣 I get it
Ineos and Glazers OUT!!
Give it a rest and use that one neuron you possess ...... Fark me.
@@creepingbraindebt wasn’t paid down at all by Ineos, their entire buy in fee went straight to the Glazers pockets.
Mark youre losing credibility with Rasmus you cant keep saying its not his fault, i liked him at the start but he is abysmal time to face it 😂 hes a scrub i try to not dislike any of our players but he is like a empty shirt running round.
Fact.
The ref could score better goals.
This service talk is bullocks…… what about holding the ball I’m not talking about Rasmus scoring at least hold the ball mate
Rasmus hojlund is terrible the worst striker in the premier league i know the whole team needs to look at themselves but he is the worst Man Utd quality of player by far even Antony offers more
Los it at the end
I wish to see the new United next season with all players sold.
Agree the ball is moving too slow and a graveyard shift but Rasmus hold up play is terrible u can't teach somebody to control the football at this stage including movements as a striker
Bruno was playing out of position
You can't expect him to be creative from CM and still do the CM job
We need another CAM to help him
Out of position?? Doesn't he play the same role in Portugal? But when he comes to Man UTD he can't play that position??
Pedri, Bellingham, Gundogan Top Midfielders create and control the game, Midfielders can't do just one job.
@@AmadDread
He doesn't play the same position for Portugal.
@@Chippychips8-2he plays CM for Portugal. Bruno isn’t a No.10
@@MitchSanderson-340i He is usually supported by 2 other CMs in Joao Neves, Vitinha or Palinha
He himself usually doesn't play CM
@@Chippychips8-2 he plays left of a 3 man midfield, Portugal don’t play with a number 10. He drifts towards the left side of the three but still plays from deep.
Bruno is more suited playing deeper, he just had a bad game but when you have donkeys like trashmus who can’t even hold a fart, let alone a football, who can you even pass to. Amad looked tired and Garnacho is garbage.
Rasmus’ movement off the ball is lacking and it’s evident
The thing to celebrate is not the win but our away fans, they sang from start to finish, they were magnificent. They are the motivation. They are the inspiration. They are the club.
Anyone remember how Van Gaal tried to implement his 3-5-2 system a decade ago? That battering from Leicester put him in a panic and he switched to a back 4 again. That was the beginning of the end. Since then managers have tried to play to what the players can do and not the vision they had. Could be probably had solid foundations if LVG would’ve stuck to his guns
Van Gaal actually had a plan but the players and culture..
Didn't Conte win the league with the same formation? We just don't have good wingers or winger backs
@@xyzcord💯💯💯
We actually had Rooney behind van Persie and Falcao with Di Maria left of the diamond.
This plonker was preaching patience when Amorim was appointed... What happened? Now Goldarse wants the team to drop points whilst looking good.
He’s been saying that a while suicidebridge!😂
He’s a glass half full guy. He doesn’t want yo accept reality and I can’t blame him. No signings in the window doesn’t bode well.
@@1972dsrai But Mark blames ineos, like they forced Amorim to come and he didn’t know what he was stepping into.🤷🏻♂️ If I’m suffering from manager fatigue god knows how the players feel.😂
the players are the reason we keep changing managers. idc what fatigue they feel, most of them make 100k per week. @@mrnobodyz
Watching Man U play now a days is like watching old people playing bingo
To be honest, a win is a win. I myself have two and a half seasons put away for this rebuild, then I want to see us compete for the league. Simple as that.
Not simple at all actually
Get Hojlund out
It's another Antony scenario loading.
Fast
“I genuinely think there’s a player there” yeah because he gave you an interview and follows you on twitter, embarrassing honestly
A much needed win. I was worried Amad hurt his knees because of the sliding celebration, thank God he's okay.
He doesn't have the wing backs to play this system yet. You CANNOT play wingbacks with full backs.
Agreed but if you have half decent attacking full backs it would be a start. Chelsea had James and chillwell who going forward are miles better than what we have. But they haven’t always been or are now wingbacks
You can’t play it with slow centre backs either. They don’t want to push up. Martinez is the only one doing regularly what Amorim wants.
@@joetownsend8305 chilwell is a wingback by nature, james would be a good wingback too if he wasnt so injury prone lol
@@sutters7251They aren't moving forward because they are instructed not to.
The only one allowed to move forward by Amorim is Lisandro Martinez. I don't know how you don't see that
Garna 10 games without goals. Is he worth 80 m. No.
Yes
No, I’m happy with just selling him at the €55 million euro
Even worse Mark believes a straight swap with Osimhen would be fair value 😂.
You’re all clueless
Have you seen Chelsea lately? He’d still be an improvement for them.
We don't want homegrown players to be sold, we want best players in market, we want to reach the top, we want to play dominating football, everything sometimes doesn't go together BRO! We need to find the right balance,.
I hate that bruno is the only person who can’t come off no matter how bad he plays. We desperately need a CAM who can come in on his bad days
It just doesn't help we got no one else who could do that role for now,he is always starting without rest
The problem with subbing Bruno is that we don't have another playmaker. It takes a moment of brilliance for him to turn a game around. I will take this win anyday.
Bruno is just shait and the fans needs to push him out just like they did with Rashford/Casmiro... I call player FC and agenda at this point..
Bruno was playing no.8 today not CAM
I genuinely felt like there was some old United spirit in moments in that game. The younger lads really stepped up and raised the bar for the players that don’t put 100%
I really really think you're clutching at make believe straws and believing in fairies and goblins etc. nothing is real. There are NO shoots of hope. There's nothing to cling too. All IS LOST. Utd are Ushited. Manure ushited. You're delusional. Seeing things that aren't there.
One of the weirdest wins of the season
Great tactics from Amorim to lull Fulham into sheer complacency.
I think zirkzee's socks are made of concrete cus he always looks like finding it hard to run plus if he does manage to have a shot. He never seems to be able to put his laces through it and just passes his shots. other than that. He's alright.
Don’t even dare talk about zizkee he’s been doing well as for hojland is a disaster couldn’t hold up a wet paper towel
Thats just bis running style.
@@1972dsrai hojland is 🫣🫣🫣🫣🫠
@@NathanWheatley-f1z Zirkzee’ hold up play is good but after that he never runs into the box he’s too slow. I’ll take him over Hojlund everyday tho
Agree, he’s probably our best striker rn and I think he would be brilliant with laying off ball for inverted winger
-we might have 99 problems, but beating Fulham away is not one.
-We grabbed a win we didn’t deserved to win .
-The game changed when Collyer came on.
-5 days left until the end of January, SJR and his team visibly seeing the major weak positions of the Amorim system and they don’t want to act like they care.
99 problems and counting.
We won great I missed the end of the match as I feel asleep but glad we won
I don’t care about fancy football. Just win the game.
😂
You must love Southgate
Watching Rasmus play can be frustrating-so many misplaced passes, always out of position, and he goes down so easily that referees have stopped paying attention to his antics. As for Mark's complaints about service, there's no point in providing it when he does absolutely nothing with it. The wingers, wingbacks, and even defenders are left with no choice but to take shots from distance or pass the ball backward!
As someone who had serious issues with Bruno under ETH, to the point i wanted him turned into a rotational player; i've really loved this recent version of Bruno playing as Amorim's Left 10... Lets be realistic with ourselves, Garnacho is almost definitely leaving before the window runs out, so why is he still playing?; Anytime Bruno has been played in the Center-Mid. under Amorim, he has always looked like someone lost in a forest with nothing to guide them.
Just putting it out there, i think Mainoo would also do way better as a 10, he's a slowish Midfield player that is way better attacking than defending, that is literally a 10; and he too looks lost when he's put in this Center-Mid. setup.
Top Managers like Flick, Carlo would have already tried Mainoo at number 10 i never understand why every manager we appoint can't see the obvious.
Eriksen was also good at the no.10 against Rangers with Bruno at the 8. They had good Chemistry. That was the only game recently which we created so many chances that we actually wasted a lot of them.
So we're staying in the premier league whoopee!! that's all we can hope for. How the mighty have fallen.
Happy about the win....but
Mounting club debt,
Rotting Stadium,
13th on the epl table
Over paid players who have sacked many managers
Liverpool are about to win their 20th league title
The Glazers have sucked this club dry and they are still here.
We can't buy players
It ain't looking good. I think Ruben is defeated by the players but more importantly the owners and hierarchy.
“We’re back” Lool come on Goldbridge your better than that
Did you watch it? 😂 or you just can’t understand sarcasm?
Martinez celebration was hilarious. Bit risky doing the Michael Jackson crotch touch. Best part of the match.
At this stage, the points are massively important. It wasn't great though, Amorim needs about 5 or 6 players.
No, Amorim needs to change this formation or get sacked
@kennyezevillo741 Why should he change it? Playing 3 at the back is fundamental to how he wants to play. When he gets the wingbacks and attackers in, this team will be off to the races. Give the guy a chance ffs.
@@livewireredb.9953 Which wingbacks? Patrick Dorgu from a struggling Lecce side? Who on the right? Amad? Mazraoui? What signs have you seen of ANYTHING working with this system?
@@kennyezevillo741 IMAGINE asking a manager to change his formation hes played all his life very low IQ take. Shouldnt have brought him in then. Whats 4 at the back gonna do? It has sacked more managers than won trophies.
@@kennyezevillo741I mean he’s won everywhere else he’s been with it. Top of the CL when he left Sporting. Chelsea won the league and CL with it, City operate in a 3 back when in possession.
You can call me a hater or whatever you want but this has to be the worst looking football I've ever seen in all my life of watching Manchester United
Hater 😂 look, only 15 points off Europe place. Still in fa cup run, think positive, project 2128 , believe 🎉🤔🤣😂
Ugarte in a league of his own, could play next to Carlton Palmer and still 1v3 a premier league midfield.
What!!?
@ He has no support and still dominates.
Bring all Sporting players here for AMORIN,than we see what result he can get
Results are more important than performance it creates a positive vibe within the squad
Once we cross 40 points, then we are at the point where football is important. Until then NO! We need to avoid relegation, try to get in the top half of the table
I actually think Rasmus has a phobia of footballs, he's scared to touch one. lol
Win is a win. I thought the United fans were MOTM tonight. They sang all night and were brilliant.
I’m sorry Mark when are you going to admit that Rasmus isn’t good enough for United?
Perhaps because you did an interview with him you aren’t willing to say anything bad about him but there is no denying he hasn’t got it, needs to go.
Rasmus not cutting it.. his first touch is worst than Lukaku
a win is a win
Love the formation in the last two games. 3241 v Rangers and 3214 today with Bruno being one of the two in both games. 541/ 532 in defence..
Dear Man United fans, have you heard Amorim's comments on Rashford? What is your take on it? At this point, I personally don't like it when he always feeds the media to say something about Manchester United. There's enough noise about our club in the media. It's just unnecessary, in my opinion.
Fully agree. He is too eager to talk.
We all know and acknowledge that Amorim cannot get this lot of players to play his style. I’m imagining that he is shifting his style of play to get through the season with some results, and once we can get to the summer, the board will need to back him and get rid of dead wood.
If the board does not do that, we will go through yet another manager, and the spiral will continue. INEOS/Glazers need to do their jobs.
It's gonna be a big summer for transfers. But we need some reinforcements right now really, as difficult as it is to do.
Don’t hold ya breath!
What if he gets stuck in the same cycle as ten hag? We never saw his style of play, either due to injuries or unsuitable players or other excuses. What if the same happens to Amorim?
@Ash It doesn’t matter because he stuck by his system and his principles and that’s all that matters!😂
If the dabate is points vs performance I will take the points. I am old enough to remember the 1990s. Forget Goldbridge, for those of you who think our treble was dominant, it was not. We won eight of our league games in the last minute, Schmeichel won us another 12 points that year. To give context, in early December we had already lost to Sheffield Wednesday, we drew against Charlton, but we ground a lot of results out that year. Performance is one thing, pounts is another thing. Relegation is not avoided at all right now. We need to keep grinding the results out
Without winning theres no playing well, after a defeat we forget everything. So, yes, First winning, then playing well and if that happens next year, well done Manchester United!
That game was screaming for a false 9 to drop in, hold the ball up, and release a speedy winger to run in behind. The Harry Kane role in the Kane -Son partnership. Zirkzee can at least do that. I don't understand why Amorim watched the attack struggle to do anything for a full 45 and sent Hojlund out to do the exact same thing he did in the first half.
Marky defending these shitty strikers LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
We have the worst centre forward in the Premier league bar Anthony has to be the one of the worst signings weve ever made cant hold up the ball woeful touch runs around like a headless chicken absolutely useless should be sold in the summer
"we're back" is a bit ambitious
It's a piss take
we won but i feel gutted by that performance, we really need creative players
Yes, we need creative players but, even more than that, we need creative coaching - the kind of coaching that liberates the players (particularly backs and mid-field payers) to be courageous and spontaneous. This can be taught . . .
@@jamesneilsongrahamloveinth1301No it can't, we need creative players. Pep didn't coach players to be creative, he bought De Bruyne to be creative. I'm surprised with all the managers we've sacked you still think these players are coachable.
I think the rest of the season has nothing to do with style of play, it has to do with points. We already know the majority of these players aren't staying long term nor can they play Amorim's system, so let's just be happy with the points from here until we bring some players in.
we're gonna win the league!!
They do say its title winning form if you can win when playing shockingly badly.
Yeah project 2128 looks about right for a challenge 😂😂
@@1972dsraiyes but the THEY who are saying it are generally stupid and know nothing about football 😂😂
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Mark great show, but please check the graphics for player ratings. They didn’t sync with what you were saying
They really should have brought Amorim in last summer. That way he would have a few signings of his own and he would have a pre season with the players. Bringing him in mid way through the season and not supporting him in Jan is a terrible plan. It puts more pressure on Amorim and leads to the media being right on his back.
I know hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I'm just worried about the INEOS regime.
You're back!!!!!!
Mark rasmus is waste of space
Would rather lose or draw than scrape a win?Lol
Why we as football fans judge a striker for his "HOLD UP PLAY". I surely know it's 1 aspect, but shouldn't be more concerned about the tap-ins we provide for our strikers (or lack there of)
So Goldbridge is fed up of the back 5 already? Lol we need an attacking left back that's all, we weren't great but we take the win. Mark is turning on Ruben already
By now it should be clear to everyone 100% the strikers aren’t the issue.
Arsenal apparently need a striker, yet most of our goals come from our defence and midfield lol
By playing defenders as wingbacks and wingers as AMCs the system is already broken. Bruno needs to play as a 10 and Amad as wingback.
Højlund omg. We need a new striker. We have a striker We cant make a pass to. Atm top10 over worst signings at man Utd. Hope he improve, but god damn he has been terrible. No Ball control. Not dangerous for a defender in anyway. We need a striker who can paticipate in the build up Play. There is a lot better Championship strikers out there than Rasmus
We're awful so any win is a cause for celebration. I think it's time we had a serious conversation about the likes of Mainoo and Holjund. Bags of potential and really came through for us at crucial times last season but its clear the manager needs a very specific profile for his system. If we can't be a club that's willing to take loses both on the pitch and off it for long term success then we're doomed.
after a tough thursday game....united should be thankful for the win
We seem to be playing like a team, but we still have problems.
So if Bruno isn't making things happen but we're worse without him then he needs replacing.
At Sporting, Amorim had two 10s running at people.
Bruno's style is hit and run, hide then pop up. We need someone who gets the ball with chest and powers past people to help Amad. If we can only afford one player it should be a 10 with pace and dribbling ability.
bruno is way overhyped. hes been a big part of the worst united side in yrs and a bit of ga gets him reprieve all the time. he's not good enough and we need better all round. he would have been bench food under SAF
@jimbob7924 Yes mate exactly!! 👍
This player you are describing is called Florian Wirtz
We need the run of results to buy the time to improve.
Away win with clean sheet. Good result in anyone’s book
Im not sure how anybody is masking this as a "great performance", it was dreadful and lucky